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(Optimal Human Modulation)   He's using all these big and fancy multi-syllabic words, but what Neil deGrasse Tyson is saying is simply this: "Don't raise your kids to be idiots." And yes. "Hero" tag is appropriate for the man   (optimalhumanmodulation.com) divider line 87
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2014-03-06 09:44:06 AM
Man that was good.

"....it [science] empowers you to not be taken advantage of by those who do understand it....if you are not scientifically literate, you are, in a way, disenfranchising yourself from the democratic process and you don't even know it."
 
2014-03-06 10:19:12 AM
Damn work filter has that site blocked. Does anyone have an alternate link I could try?
 
2014-03-06 10:20:28 AM

chozo13: Damn work filter has that site blocked. Does anyone have an alternate link I could try?


http://vimeo.com/88193574#at=0
 
2014-03-06 10:28:28 AM
Anyone have a transcript? Can't really watch videos at work...
 
2014-03-06 10:30:51 AM

BKITU: chozo13: Damn work filter has that site blocked. Does anyone have an alternate link I could try?

http://vimeo.com/88193574#at=0


Thanks for trying. Stupid filter. Anyone have a transcript?
 
2014-03-06 10:31:40 AM
He just trolled Gravity on Twitter.
 
2014-03-06 10:36:57 AM
My iPhone was made by a mysterious figure somewhere beyond the horizon. I don't need to know or why, to be certain that they exist. I hear they still suffer for my sins.
 
2014-03-06 10:37:49 AM
I'm really looking forward to Cosmos. Tyson's a pretty entertaining scientist, and the originals with Sagan helped me learn English. Much love.
 
2014-03-06 10:38:08 AM
Can't I just watch the Sagan original?

//Carlos mencia of science.
 
2014-03-06 10:42:19 AM

chozo13: BKITU: chozo13: Damn work filter has that site blocked. Does anyone have an alternate link I could try?

http://vimeo.com/88193574#at=0

Thanks for trying. Stupid filter. Anyone have a transcript?


Youtube link:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gFLYe_YAQYQ

Sorry, transcript would be boring, its more of a audio thing.
 
2014-03-06 10:44:26 AM

OnlyM3: Can't I just watch the Sagan original?

//Carlos mencia of science.


I'll +1 that.
 
2014-03-06 10:46:48 AM

BalugaJoe: He just trolled Gravity on Twitter.


And it was hilarious.
 
2014-03-06 10:47:02 AM

MindStalker: chozo13: BKITU: chozo13: Damn work filter has that site blocked. Does anyone have an alternate link I could try?

http://vimeo.com/88193574#at=0

Thanks for trying. Stupid filter. Anyone have a transcript?

Youtube link:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gFLYe_YAQYQ

Sorry, transcript would be boring, its more of a audio thing.


I can't watch videos at work at all. But I can read a transcript in Neil deGrasse Tyson's voice...

/I'll just save the link and watch it when I get home
 
2014-03-06 10:49:14 AM
OMG! Real science on a Fox network!

Fox News to assplode in 5,4,3,2......
 
2014-03-06 10:50:16 AM
"We need to teach them not  what to think, but  how to think. For, after all, most adults believe what they want to believe, whether it's true or not."


So, you do teach them what to think.
 
2014-03-06 10:50:22 AM
What is the number one thing you'd do to solve all the world's problems?

Education. The only hope for the planet is the children. We need to teach them not what to think, but how to think. For, after all, most adults believe what they want to believe, whether it's true or not.


 
2014-03-06 10:51:55 AM
JNowe: "We need to teach them not  what to think, but  how to think. For, after all, most adults believe what they want to believe, whether it's true or not."


So, you do want to teach them what to think.

ftfm
 
2014-03-06 10:57:23 AM
I've never quite known how I feel about him. I like that he's an outspoken advocate of science and glad that he's been involved with the Cosmos reboot, and he seems like a smart and fun guy, but he just rubs me the wrong way sometimes and comes off as really crass. I dunno, I'm sure the good outweigh the bad, but I feel like the only person who finds him annoying more often then not I guess.
 
2014-03-06 10:57:54 AM

UberDave: "....it [science] empowers you to not be taken advantage of by those who do understand it....if you are not scientifically literate, you are, in a way, disenfranchising yourself from the democratic process and you don't even know it."


You mean when political talking heads unskew statistical quirks, I won't know that they aren't using statistics properly?
 
2014-03-06 11:01:20 AM
Science from a black man. Two 'reasons', each big enough on their own,  that the ears of some people in charge won't listen.
 
2014-03-06 11:05:42 AM

error 303: I've never quite known how I feel about him. I like that he's an outspoken advocate of science and glad that he's been involved with the Cosmos reboot, and he seems like a smart and fun guy, but he just rubs me the wrong way sometimes and comes off as really crass. I dunno, I'm sure the good outweigh the bad, but I feel like the only person who finds him annoying more often then not I guess.


No, I find him annoying too.
 
2014-03-06 11:06:47 AM
web.mit.edu
 
2014-03-06 11:27:27 AM

Tyrone Slothrop: No, I find him annoying too.


Eh, I found Sagan annoying.
 
2014-03-06 11:27:28 AM

Tyrone Slothrop: error 303: I've never quite known how I feel about him. I like that he's an outspoken advocate of science and glad that he's been involved with the Cosmos reboot, and he seems like a smart and fun guy, but he just rubs me the wrong way sometimes and comes off as really crass. I dunno, I'm sure the good outweigh the bad, but I feel like the only person who finds him annoying more often then not I guess.

No, I find him annoying too.


No.  I find him and Dawkins, as well as the other militant atheist crowd to be crass and smug.
A hot cup of STFU is sometimes in order.
 
2014-03-06 11:38:24 AM

OnlyM3: Can't I just watch the Sagan original?

//Carlos mencia of science.


ih1.redbubble.net
 
2014-03-06 11:42:28 AM

Nonrepeating Rotating Binary: Tyrone Slothrop: No, I find him annoying too.

Eh, I found Sagan annoying.


I was going to say this. When I was in high school, hearing Sagan's nasally voice for an hour was less endearing a thought than seppuku. Then a few years ago, I actually listened to what he was saying and my view of him transformed considerably. Sagan is a hard act to follow, but I think NdGT will give it a worthy effort.
 
2014-03-06 11:43:06 AM

error 303: I've never quite known how I feel about him. I like that he's an outspoken advocate of science and glad that he's been involved with the Cosmos reboot, and he seems like a smart and fun guy, but he just rubs me the wrong way sometimes and comes off as really crass. I dunno, I'm sure the good outweigh the bad, but I feel like the only person who finds him annoying more often then not I guess.


I won't say he's annoying, but when he's speaking it seems "off" to me. He always speaks as if he wants to have a sense of wonder, but it seems...procedural to him. It almost seems like the universe being amazing is sort of matter of fact or routine to him, and he can't quite get why other people don't feel the same way.
 
2014-03-06 11:49:17 AM
I found him off-putting initially, but he's grown on me.  I prefer to read the things he says than to watch/listen to him saying them.
 
2014-03-06 11:50:55 AM

OnlyM3: Can't I just watch the Sagan original?

//Carlos mencia of science.


2/10
 
2014-03-06 12:14:56 PM
The most thankless job ever must be to be a public intellectual in America.
 
2014-03-06 12:20:27 PM

JNowe: JNowe: "We need to teach them not  what to think, but  how to think. For, after all, most adults believe what they want to believe, whether it's true or not."


So, you do want to teach them what to think.

ftfm


I, uh, what?
 
2014-03-06 12:38:51 PM

Facetious_Speciest: I'm really looking forward to Cosmos. Tyson's a pretty entertaining scientist, and the originals with Sagan helped me learn English. Much love.


If Carl Sagan taught you English, I would love to hear you say "billions and billions."
 
2014-03-06 12:43:07 PM
Smoky Dragon Dish

If Carl Sagan taught you English, I would love to hear you say "billions and billions."

It was vocabulary and phrasing more than accent. I did have other television, it just wasn't as expansive in scope.

/Jeopardy helped as well
 
2014-03-06 12:43:32 PM

mistrmind: Tyrone Slothrop: error 303: I've never quite known how I feel about him. I like that he's an outspoken advocate of science and glad that he's been involved with the Cosmos reboot, and he seems like a smart and fun guy, but he just rubs me the wrong way sometimes and comes off as really crass. I dunno, I'm sure the good outweigh the bad, but I feel like the only person who finds him annoying more often then not I guess.

No, I find him annoying too.

No.  I find him and Dawkins, as well as the other militant atheist crowd to be crass and smug.
A hot cup of STFU is sometimes in order.


NGT is a militant atheist?  Since when?  I'm not saying that he isn't an atheist, but I have heard him say that being religious doesn't mean you reject scientific theory and then used the example of the Roman Catholic Church's acceptance of the Theory of Evolution.
 
2014-03-06 12:44:57 PM

mistrmind: No.  I find him and Dawkins, as well as the other militant atheist crowd to be crass and smug.


It's sometimes hard to not be smug when you're right.
 
2014-03-06 12:45:14 PM

error 303: I've never quite known how I feel about him. I like that he's an outspoken advocate of science and glad that he's been involved with the Cosmos reboot, and he seems like a smart and fun guy, but he just rubs me the wrong way sometimes and comes off as really crass.


Well, he didn't really sign up for the advocacy/PR position over the longer run like Nye or Sagan did.  He was tapped in the short-term to respond to something and it just kinda stuck.

So, yeah, he lacks a lot of the practice and training of some of the other advocates.
 
2014-03-06 12:49:14 PM

Facetious_Speciest: Smoky Dragon Dish

If Carl Sagan taught you English, I would love to hear you say "billions and billions."

It was vocabulary and phrasing more than accent. I did have other television, it just wasn't as expansive in scope.

/Jeopardy helped as well


heh, then I want to hear you say the word "sorry" too!
 
2014-03-06 01:02:32 PM
So basically, the Tyson Backlash has officially begun?
 
2014-03-06 01:11:09 PM

mistrmind: Tyrone Slothrop: error 303: I've never quite known how I feel about him. I like that he's an outspoken advocate of science and glad that he's been involved with the Cosmos reboot, and he seems like a smart and fun guy, but he just rubs me the wrong way sometimes and comes off as really crass. I dunno, I'm sure the good outweigh the bad, but I feel like the only person who finds him annoying more often then not I guess.

No, I find him annoying too.

No.  I find him and Dawkins, as well as the other militant atheist crowd to be crass and smug.
A hot cup of STFU is sometimes in order.


You are aware that he's not an atheist, right?

"...For, after all, most adults believe what they want to believe, whether it's true or not "
 
2014-03-06 01:12:50 PM

Cicero_X: mistrmind: Tyrone Slothrop: error 303: I've never quite known how I feel about him. I like that he's an outspoken advocate of science and glad that he's been involved with the Cosmos reboot, and he seems like a smart and fun guy, but he just rubs me the wrong way sometimes and comes off as really crass. I dunno, I'm sure the good outweigh the bad, but I feel like the only person who finds him annoying more often then not I guess.

No, I find him annoying too.

No.  I find him and Dawkins, as well as the other militant atheist crowd to be crass and smug.
A hot cup of STFU is sometimes in order.

You are aware that he's not an atheist, right?

"...For, after all, most adults believe what they want to believe, whether it's true or not "


What is he then?
 
2014-03-06 01:13:09 PM
Bookmark
 
2014-03-06 01:24:58 PM

mistrmind: What is he then?


He weighs the same as a duck.

Why does it matter?
 
2014-03-06 01:30:37 PM

Ed Grubermann: mistrmind: What is he then?

He weighs the same as a duck.

Why does it matter?


Why not?   You say he's not atheist, so what is he then?   Just curious.
 
2014-03-06 01:34:47 PM
IIRC, Tyson is (by his own preference) not an atheist. He's agnostic, if you have to pin a label on him.
 
2014-03-06 01:38:50 PM

Facetious_Speciest: IIRC, Tyson is (by his own preference) not an atheist. He's agnostic, if you have to pin a label on him.


And he has spoken about how annoying and useless he finds "Militant Atheists."
 
2014-03-06 01:42:24 PM

Facetious_Speciest: IIRC, Tyson is (by his own preference) not an atheist. He's agnostic, if you have to pin a label on him.


That's how he self describes.  From the knowledge fount that is Wikipedia...

In an interview with Big Think, Tyson said agnosticism was the best description of his views about truth values of claims pertaining to the existence of God(s), but that "at the end of the day I'd rather not be any category at all." Similarly, during the interview "Called by the Universe: A conversation with Neil deGrasse Tyson" in 2009, Tyson said: "I can't agree to the claims by atheists that I'm one of that community."
 
2014-03-06 01:42:56 PM

Facetious_Speciest: IIRC, Tyson is (by his own preference) not an atheist. He's agnostic, if you have to pin a label on him.


Just asking.  If I had to pin a label on him it would be annoying.
 
2014-03-06 01:44:26 PM

LasersHurt: Facetious_Speciest: IIRC, Tyson is (by his own preference) not an atheist. He's agnostic, if you have to pin a label on him.

And he has spoken about how annoying and useless he finds "Militant Atheists."


No, I said I found them crass and smug.  Pay attention.
 
2014-03-06 01:54:18 PM

hawcian: error 303: I've never quite known how I feel about him. I like that he's an outspoken advocate of science and glad that he's been involved with the Cosmos reboot, and he seems like a smart and fun guy, but he just rubs me the wrong way sometimes and comes off as really crass. I dunno, I'm sure the good outweigh the bad, but I feel like the only person who finds him annoying more often then not I guess.

I won't say he's annoying, but when he's speaking it seems "off" to me. He always speaks as if he wants to have a sense of wonder, but it seems...procedural to him. It almost seems like the universe being amazing is sort of matter of fact or routine to him, and he can't quite get why other people don't feel the same way.


Well then I'm with him. Not being amazed by this planet and the broader universe is an alien mindset to me, and finding out the hows or whys don't make it any less so.

I honestly think instilling and maintaining that sense of wonder is fundamental to wanting to learn about the universe we live in. And as he says in the video, we are all born with it and have it drilled out of us far to quickly. And scientists are not immune to this. While less obnoxiously evident most of the time they can also get locked into the "knowing" when all they really have is: "Our best evidence shows."
 
2014-03-06 01:58:07 PM

LasersHurt: JNowe: JNowe: "We need to teach them not  what to think, but  how to think. For, after all, most adults believe what they want to believe, whether it's true or not."


So, you do want to teach them what to think.

ftfm

I, uh, what?


Don't try.... Just don't. Teaching people to think critically is, apparently, teaching them what to think.

I think.
 
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