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2014-03-06 10:20:06 AM
guyism.com
 
2014-03-06 10:22:01 AM
One of the most foolish consumer trends I've seen arise within my lifetime has been the notion of selling water in little plastic bottles.  What a dumb dumb dumb idea.
 
2014-03-06 10:22:40 AM
Bla bla fascism, but I'm in favor of this experiment. The costs of bottled water are subsidized by us all and maybe forcing everyone to use the municipal water will keep it from turning into something used only by the poor and chronically underfunded.
 
2014-03-06 10:25:25 AM
Coffee and soda vendors heard cackling madly in the shadows.
 
d23 [TotalFark]
2014-03-06 10:26:48 AM

dangelder: Bla bla fascism, but I'm in favor of this experiment. The costs of bottled water are subsidized by us all and maybe forcing everyone to use the municipal water will keep it from turning into something used only by the poor and chronically underfunded.


Really, really confused by any bellyaching like this.  They are making a rule on land that they own.  The same group of biatchers would scream for days if "you gubmit tell me how to rum my buzzzzness", just like they do when we try to make bullshiat gay bans illegal.
 
2014-03-06 10:26:54 AM
As a resident of a state affected by idiots poisoning our water supply, I fully expect that SanFran's experiment would carve out an exception for distributing these little environment killers in case of disaster or crisis.  It's not like an earthquake could disrupt the delivery of water through their city or anything...
 
2014-03-06 10:26:56 AM
Luckily, you can still buy bottled water on private property.

Like everywhere you buy it now.
 
2014-03-06 10:28:55 AM

Persnickety: One of the most foolish consumer trends I've seen arise within my lifetime has been the notion of selling water in little plastic bottles.  What a dumb dumb dumb idea.


It's quite the marketing ploy, isn't it?

I still can remember seeing pitchers of water served to tables.  Then came this myth that you should drink 8 glasses of water a day that got pushed, but nobody could really cite any research.

That's when a lot of idiots stopped pointing and laughing at Evian drinkers and noting that Evian spelled backwards in "naive".

I thought it funny when I was given a bottled water and noticed it had a "manufacture date" all the way down to the minute when it was bottled and an expiration date exactly one year later (although not down to the minute).

I always wondered what would happen to that water one year after it was bottled.
 
2014-03-06 10:29:44 AM

Persnickety: One of the most foolish consumer trends I've seen arise within my lifetime has been the notion of selling water in little plastic bottles.  What a dumb dumb dumb idea.


dangelder: Bla bla fascism, but I'm in favor of this experiment. The costs of bottled water are subsidized by us all and maybe forcing everyone to use the municipal water will keep it from turning into something used only by the poor and chronically underfunded.


But if someone takes their water and adds some carbonation, coloring and HFCS before selling it, you're cool with it.
 
2014-03-06 10:30:22 AM
Concord MA has banned the sale of single servings of water in plastic bottles on both private and public land.
 
2014-03-06 10:31:18 AM
Is this the kind of thing that would even have much impact in San Francisco?  In cities like NYC where there are street vendors everywhere, I could see an effect.
 
2014-03-06 10:33:05 AM
How about canned water?  Is that still cool, man?
 
2014-03-06 10:33:17 AM
Well heck.
I haven't bought a bottle of water yet.  I found pipes it flows from.
 
2014-03-06 10:33:18 AM
Banning the selling of water on public property I can maybe defend. Banning the buying of it seems explicitly unconstitutional under Buckley v. Valeo, as reinforced by Citizens United v. FEC. Purchases are speech.

But hey, it's not fascism when we do it.
 
2014-03-06 10:33:57 AM
I believe the most important question here is: Can they pee in bottles and sale that?
 
2014-03-06 10:33:57 AM

zimbomba63: How about canned water?  Is that still cool, man?


Water in a plastic bag?
 
2014-03-06 10:35:19 AM
But highly sugared and artificially sweetened drinks are still okay, right?  What if they realize that those things also wind up in the litter stream, and are also bad for you?  What next?  Ban liquids?
 
2014-03-06 10:36:11 AM

gfid

I thought it funny when I was given a bottled water and noticed it had a "manufacture date" all the way down to the minute when it was bottled and an expiration date exactly one year later


Salt also has an expiration date on the pack.
 
2014-03-06 10:36:13 AM

gfid: Persnickety: One of the most foolish consumer trends I've seen arise within my lifetime has been the notion of selling water in little plastic bottles.  What a dumb dumb dumb idea.

It's quite the marketing ploy, isn't it?

I still can remember seeing pitchers of water served to tables.  Then came this myth that you should drink 8 glasses of water a day that got pushed, but nobody could really cite any research.

That's when a lot of idiots stopped pointing and laughing at Evian drinkers and noting that Evian spelled backwards in "naive".

I thought it funny when I was given a bottled water and noticed it had a "manufacture date" all the way down to the minute when it was bottled and an expiration date exactly one year later (although not down to the minute).

I always wondered what would happen to that water one year after it was bottled.


You know that nasty plasticy taste the water gets from leaving the bottle out in the sun too long?  My guess is that.
 
2014-03-06 10:37:56 AM

gfid: Persnickety: One of the most foolish consumer trends I've seen arise within my lifetime has been the notion of selling water in little plastic bottles.  What a dumb dumb dumb idea.

It's quite the marketing ploy, isn't it?

I still can remember seeing pitchers of water served to tables.  Then came this myth that you should drink 8 glasses of water a day that got pushed, but nobody could really cite any research.

That's when a lot of idiots stopped pointing and laughing at Evian drinkers and noting that Evian spelled backwards in "naive".

I thought it funny when I was given a bottled water and noticed it had a "manufacture date" all the way down to the minute when it was bottled and an expiration date exactly one year later (although not down to the minute).

I always wondered what would happen to that water one year after it was bottled.


The poison in the plastic bottle has percolated or "osmosed??" into the water. This policy should be national, IMHO.
 
2014-03-06 10:37:59 AM
What about other beverages in plastic bottles: sports drinks, juice, milk etc.  that's ok?  So it's water - not the bottle that SF is against? Seems like unfair trade practices.
 
2014-03-06 10:37:59 AM

dentalhilljack: As a resident of a state affected by idiots poisoning our water supply, I fully expect that SanFran's experiment would carve out an exception for distributing these little environment killers in case of disaster or crisis.  It's not like an earthquake could disrupt the delivery of water through their city or anything...


You can still buy liter and two-liter bottles, which is more in line with what you'd have in an earthquake kit.
 
2014-03-06 10:38:09 AM

Molavian: Luckily, you can still buy bottled water on private property.

Like everywhere you buy it now.


It eliminates sales of bottled water, under 21 oz., on sidewalks, parks, museums, concerts (eventually)... basically all the places people look for a quick cool bottled water fix on a steamy summer's day.  So now I'll have to fight through the homeless guy to get into the Walgreen's to get my Dasani.
 
2014-03-06 10:38:30 AM
The day will come when they ask, "Where's the water?"
www.conservation.ca.gov
/personally, i wouldn't piss on it
 
2014-03-06 10:38:48 AM

cowgirl toffee: I believe the most important question here is: Can they pee in bottles and sale that?


Of course, how else would the Miller Beer company make any money?
 
2014-03-06 10:39:25 AM

Inflatable Rhetoric: zimbomba63: How about canned water?  Is that still cool, man?

Water in a plastic bag?


www.washingtoncitypaper.com
 
2014-03-06 10:39:49 AM

Savage Bacon: Coffee and soda vendors heard cackling madly in the shadows.


Exactly. People think big business hates the ecowarrior but they play them like a fiddle
 
2014-03-06 10:40:12 AM

sdd2000: cowgirl toffee: I believe the most important question here is: Can they pee in bottles and sale that?

Of course, how else would the Miller Beer company make any money?


PBR for the win!
 
2014-03-06 10:40:45 AM

cowgirl toffee: I believe the most important question here is: Can they pee in bottles and sale that?


You mean Pirelli's Miracle Elixir?
 
2014-03-06 10:40:47 AM
great - now kids who brought water to school with their lunches will be drinking coke or gatoraid.  excellent.
 
2014-03-06 10:41:36 AM
Thought those Hippies all carried Bota Bags.

I have two for skiing.
One for red and one for white.
In case I have the fish.
 
2014-03-06 10:41:53 AM
From fad to ban. The life cycle of a hip artifact.

Of course, there is much to be said on both sides and I am about to say it.

Pros
One, bottled water is unnecessary because tap water is just as good almost everywhere. It is a convenience, however, to be able to carry water with you easily. I pay $8 a month  for water cooler water, but the cooler heats it, so it seems worth while as I can make good tea, coffee, etc., without having a coffee machine or electric kettle. That's a sensible use of a bottle.

Two, now that everybody can get cheap reusable bottles, you can carry tap water around and not use a lot of bottles.

Three, it is probably healthier to drink water than sugar water, so you're paying for what isn't in the bottle as much as for what is.

Cons
Water is a commodity. The rich and farmers get it cheaper than dirt. The poor have to pay through the nose like in one of those SF movies where the bad guys have a monopoly on air or water or time instead of money.

Same difference.

Just as it is sometimes worth while to buy a soda from a machine at $2.00 rather than to go looking for a place that is selling them for $0.75  retail or $0.33 in bulk, it is sometimes worthwhile to buy bottled water.

Bottled water is something you should have in stock in case of emergencies, like all that tinned food nobody wants to eat but has any way. I have enough smoked oysters to throw a big party and even a tin of Spam. For the Y2K threat, I bought a can of condensed milk. There is nothing more useless than a can of condensed milk. It doesn't even look or taste like milk. It looks and tastes like condensed library paste with too much sugar in it.

I therefore have several gallons of bottled water. Because it doesn't last forever, I sometimes replace it and drink the water. It costs but it could be the difference between life and life in a high school gym.

I swear I will never step into a high school gym again unless it is to vote the feckers out or listen to Mozart played on a $2 million Stradivarius violen.

I'm sure that I could go on and on and on. But I won't bother. Nobody reads this far the farkle snoobberry twit-whistlers.
 
2014-03-06 10:42:43 AM

gfid: Persnickety: One of the most foolish consumer trends I've seen arise within my lifetime has been the notion of selling water in little plastic bottles.  What a dumb dumb dumb idea.

It's quite the marketing ploy, isn't it?

I still can remember seeing pitchers of water served to tables.  Then came this myth that you should drink 8 glasses of water a day that got pushed, but nobody could really cite any research.

That's when a lot of idiots stopped pointing and laughing at Evian drinkers and noting that Evian spelled backwards in "naive".

I thought it funny when I was given a bottled water and noticed it had a "manufacture date" all the way down to the minute when it was bottled and an expiration date exactly one year later (although not down to the minute).

I always wondered what would happen to that water one year after it was bottled.


By then the water while drinkable, wouldn't be advisable to drink due to the leeching of chemicals from the plastics
 
2014-03-06 10:43:32 AM
Why not just impose a 10 cent deposit on containers like many other states do?

I'd settle for my city having a decent recycling program, I'm tired of piling the stuff up in my spare bedroom and driving half way across town to drop it off every few weeks.
 
2014-03-06 10:44:11 AM
I was under the impression that there were no laws in San Francisco, at least in the Mission District, in regards to public behavior. I came to this conclusion during a three day business trip when I saw a different person shiat on the sidewalk each day that I was there.
While visiting, I also experienced the absolutely worst smell I've ever encountered which, surprisingly, wasn't any of the shiatters. It was an odious stench on the wind that had the effect of taking a nasty, greasy city pigeon and fastening it directly below one's nose with duct tape that had been marinated in beef tallow. Again, this was in the Mission District. I'm sure that the rest of SF is much nicer.
 
2014-03-06 10:44:37 AM

OnlyM3: gfid

I thought it funny when I was given a bottled water and noticed it had a "manufacture date" all the way down to the minute when it was bottled and an expiration date exactly one year later

Salt also has an expiration date on the pack.


Expiration dates are for shelf stockers. Don't worry. Most products will be good long after the expiry date. Let your nose or taste buds guide you. When in doubt, throw it out.

Water does become contaminated with bacteria over time. They can squeeze through pores and the gaps around the rim of tightly closed bottles. The plastic may be leaching poisons.

Salt won't spoil, ever, but it will cake and become nasty. It may collect dust (from the cardboard box, if nothing else) or absorb nasty odors and flavors.

So that's the reason for that.
 
2014-03-06 10:44:38 AM
You go Frisco, turn that city into the utopia you want it to be!

...then wonder sadly why it's going bankrupt and everyone moves out in a few years
 
2014-03-06 10:44:45 AM

Persnickety: One of the most foolish consumer trends I've seen arise within my lifetime has been the notion of selling water in little plastic bottles.  What a dumb dumb dumb idea.


There is a time and palace for them, just like there is a time and a place for single serve portions of juice or soda vs. gallon or two-liter jugs.  If I'm stuck in a government building waiting for something and I get thirsty, I just want one 12oz serving from the vending machine.  And don't talk tome about water fountains, where I live at least, the municipal water is disgusting.  (We filter it at home.)

What sticks in my craw is the wildly excessive use of those little landfill bombs.  My mother buys them by the case and uses them instead of drinking from the tap.   Again, the local water is crap so I can see filtering, and I could even understand buying the big two gallon refrigerator jugs of water, but she buys pallets of the little 12oz things for no discernible reason.  Half her trash it seems is little plastic water bottles.  THAT is the problem, not some guy stuck in the jury room at the courthouse who just wants a drink.
 
2014-03-06 10:46:22 AM

Persnickety: cowgirl toffee: I believe the most important question here is: Can they pee in bottles and sale that?

You mean Pirelli's Miracle Elixir?


Sold in the finest truck stops and public lands in San Francisco.
 
2014-03-06 10:49:20 AM
So, Brawndo is still OK?
 
2014-03-06 10:49:33 AM
1.bp.blogspot.com
 
2014-03-06 10:50:01 AM

Inflatable Rhetoric: Well heck.
I haven't bought a bottle of water yet.  I found pipes it flows from.




I too have found this. It is strange others haven't.


/I also like water in cans.
//I call it beer.
 
2014-03-06 10:50:50 AM

Molavian: Luckily, you can still buy bottled water on private property.

Like everywhere you buy it now.


Exactly.  Who does this affect?  Street vendors?

I'm not a big fan of bottled water, but this law is kinda ridiculous.
 
2014-03-06 10:51:22 AM

MBooda: The day will come when they ask, "Where's the water?"
[www.conservation.ca.gov image 793x635]
/personally, i wouldn't piss on it


I don't think that vending machines and street vendors would be a reliable source in such a situation.
 
2014-03-06 10:52:21 AM

zimbomba63: How about canned water?  Is that still cool, man?


All set.

www.anheuser-busch.com
 
2014-03-06 10:52:42 AM

snocone: So, Brawndo is still OK?


You should try watering your plants with it, plants crave what is within that bottle
 
2014-03-06 10:53:40 AM

FreeBirdInTheHand: dentalhilljack: As a resident of a state affected by idiots poisoning our water supply, I fully expect that SanFran's experiment would carve out an exception for distributing these little environment killers in case of disaster or crisis.  It's not like an earthquake could disrupt the delivery of water through their city or anything...

You can still buy liter and two-liter bottles, which is more in line with what you'd have in an earthquake kit.


I would conservatively estimate that at least 70% of the donated water we collectively received from both public and private entities in January was cases of 24-36 count bottled water, plus most stores stocked mostly bottled water.  There were tanker trucks and the aforementioned gallon & liter jugs available too, but the vast majority was single serve bottles...so much so that the Boy and Girl Scouts across the region set up recycling drives to collect it all.  I figure other disaster responses are similar.  Strawman supposition - would San Francisco seriously turn down FEMA or private aid in a calamity because the water wasn't packaged properly?
 
d23 [TotalFark]
2014-03-06 10:54:23 AM

snocone: So, Brawndo is still OK?


Yeah.  It's got electrolytes.
 
2014-03-06 10:54:36 AM

HotWingConspiracy: MBooda: The day will come when they ask, "Where's the water?"
[www.conservation.ca.gov image 793x635]
/personally, i wouldn't piss on it

I don't think that vending machines and street vendors would be a reliable source in such a situation.


An unreliable source is still better than no source at all.
 
2014-03-06 10:55:30 AM
I've also heard that the San Francisco City Council will vote on putting a measure in the next ballot that will impose a $0.02 per ounce tax on soda sales.

/Live in SF
//Still bitter over them charging $0.10 per bag at all stores
 
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