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(Metronews.ca)   Not news: Child gets automatic suspension for bringing banned item to class. News: It was a cheese sandwich. Fark: She's two years old   (metronews.ca) divider line 33
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2014-03-06 08:03:19 AM  
5 votes:

Onkel Buck: optikeye: If the daycare says "no outside food allowed" I fail to see why this is an issue at all.

Thats for all the other kids to follow, this little snowflake in the article is special and entitled.


How about "throw it out and talk to the parents" instead of suspension?
2014-03-06 01:08:31 AM  
4 votes:
If the daycare says "no outside food allowed" I fail to see why this is an issue at all.
2014-03-06 08:06:36 AM  
3 votes:
"Upon enrolment, parents must sign a contract which they review and we review with them, and this contract specifically mentions that we have zero tolerance," she said.

Don't sign stupid contracts like this. That fact that they actually used the phrase "zero tolerance" in a contract proves that their staff is incapable of making intelligent, reasonable decisions. What I'm trying to say is: find another daycare.

I used to think that the most charitable explanation for all these zero tolerance policies was insurance liability but I really think the people who make these rules are just pants-on-head retarded.
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2014-03-06 08:01:09 AM  
3 votes:

Abe Vigoda's Ghost: xanadian: FTFA:  Nancy Brisebois, assistant director at Centre D'Enfant aux 4 Vents, said she couldn't discuss the specific incident, but that the French-language centre clearly communicates their policy, which includes automatic expulsion for possession of peanut butter, to parents.

I could never understand that.  Does peanut butter aerosolize (or whatever) and float through the air or something?  Are all allergic kids within range of a peanut farm in mortal danger?

Even the hearing the word 'peanut' or peanut butter' is enough to kill some sensitive children.

Why do you hate children?


If you have an allergy that bad then maybe you need to stay at home.  I have sympathy for allergies (my life is full of them) but at some accommodation for your disability infringes on the rights of others.  If your kid is going to die if he or she is within 100 yards of peanut butter then maybe you need to make special arrangements.
2014-03-06 03:58:00 AM  
3 votes:

CruiserTwelve: Dad gave a 2 year old a cheese sandwich for breakfast?


Preferable to a pop-tart, I'd say.
2014-03-06 09:08:53 AM  
2 votes:
Let's say the guy makes about $20/hour.  Missing three 8 hour days amounts to a $480 fine for a cheese sandwich, a pretty hefty penalty for a simple mistake that had zero potential to harm anyone.

With 7 billion of us and counting, it's way past time to let the more fragile of us - ones with food allergies for example - get Darwin'ed out.
2014-03-06 07:43:26 AM  
2 votes:
This woman has a bright future ahead of her in school administration.
2014-03-06 07:43:21 AM  
2 votes:
In currently looking at preschools for my 3 year old. All the peanut Nazis are right out. Do I need to ask about cheese now, too?
2014-03-06 05:53:37 AM  
2 votes:
Idiocracy really was a documentary.
2014-03-06 05:09:45 AM  
2 votes:
She truly is a muenster.
2014-03-06 03:26:04 AM  
2 votes:

CruiserTwelve: Dad gave a 2 year old a cheese sandwich for breakfast?


What's wrong with that? It's portable and fairly nutricious (provides grain, dairy & protein).
2014-03-06 01:13:25 AM  
2 votes:
Now that's what I call lactose intolerance.
2014-03-06 01:03:52 PM  
1 votes:
This is what happens when you want to nerf everything.
2014-03-06 11:42:45 AM  
1 votes:

Trade Secret: Dr. Whoof: Trade Secret: Because I too am allergic to several things including types of nuts, fish and even beer.

I'm not sure whether to heap condolences on you or kindly ask you to vacate the gene pool...

I always enjoyed a beer, especially after mowing the lawn, but I kept having bad-ass hay fever after I mowed, come to find out it was the beer. Some types of wine also make it so my lungs freak out and I have to use an inhaler. Not sure what the true cause is but I stay away from beer and wine and stick to scotch and "the reefer"

/can still taste beer if I think about it...I miss it on hot days for sure
/my kids have zero allergies
// so condolences it is


You might want to try beers made from other ingredients, such as wheat beers, or look for a gluten free beer.
2014-03-06 10:51:34 AM  
1 votes:

Danger Mouse: GDubDub: Danger Mouse: Because the teacher could have simply removed the sandwich and reminded the parents that no outside food is allowed due to concerns about allergies.

You know, like a reasonable person would do.

You do realize that rank-and-file workers get fired for exercising discretion these days, particularly in any type of educational setting?

This is a private day care facility. They have a bit more discretion.  But yes, the 0 tolerance trend is insanely stupid.


If this dad is the kind of guy who would run to the media with this, I get a feeling this isn't this guys first incident with the people who run this school. Private daycares aren't in the business of pushing paying customers out. Usually they have to wait until problem children/parents give them a reason to take action.
2014-03-06 09:09:47 AM  
1 votes:

Onkel Buck: PC LOAD LETTER: Onkel Buck: optikeye: If the daycare says "no outside food allowed" I fail to see why this is an issue at all.

Thats for all the other kids to follow, this little snowflake in the article is special and entitled.

How about "throw it out and talk to the parents" instead of suspension?


Because the parents are also entitled and if you call them on their BS they'll go to your boss and get your ass fired because your boss doesnt want them to go to his boss . Youre not allowed to tell people they are wrong anymore you are supposed to support their individuality and rebel spirit for disobeying the rules.


This is correct and this is also why I hope Soylent Green was a predictive documentary and The White Plague was an instruction manual.

I'd say "I don't want to live on this planet anymore", except that space program cutbacks have made even that option moot. Further confinement to this giant Skinner box appears inevitable.
2014-03-06 09:04:09 AM  
1 votes:

FnkyTwn: xanadian: FTFA:  Nancy Brisebois, assistant director at Centre D'Enfant aux 4 Vents, said she couldn't discuss the specific incident, but that the French-language centre clearly communicates their policy, which includes automatic expulsion for possession of peanut butter, to parents.

I could never understand that.  Does peanut butter aerosolize (or whatever) and float through the air or something?  Are all allergic kids within range of a peanut farm in mortal danger?

I think for a long time now that's what actually has been believed by the parents of peanut allergy sufferers and schools, but recent studies have shown that that's not the case and instead it's really just contact exposure mistaken for airborne contact.

Hysteria surrounding peanut allergies is pretty rampant, however if exposure to peanut butter could kill my kid i might be a little hysterical about it too.


I've witnessed an episode of anaplylactic shock by a child in the same room as a peanut butter sandwich.  She didn't know that a kid two rows behind her had opened a container that had peanut butter in it, but her body sure as hell did.  This was not "panic" or "hysteria", it was an actual, physical reaction.

That said, not ever allergy sufferer has such severe reactions to things, but some do.
2014-03-06 08:54:34 AM  
1 votes:
I wonder if my hometown Jif plant's air vented roasters have caused any kids to die yet.  They have twice a week roastings and the whole county (pop +400K) smells oh so wonderful on those days... compare it to a coffee roaster and you get the idea.  Seriously, if the whole town smells like peanuts, don't you think at least -one- of those "special" kids would have died by now?  Granted, it's not the  most highest profile civil crime, but there would be a lawsuit filed by at least one aggrieved parent, wouldn't you think?
2014-03-06 08:51:11 AM  
1 votes:
Coincidence? I think not.

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2014-03-06 08:49:19 AM  
1 votes:

Tatterdemalian: xanadian: I could never understand that.  Does peanut butter aerosolize (or whatever) and float through the air or something?  Are all allergic kids within range of a peanut farm in mortal danger?

When dealing with two-year-olds, it might as well.

Mom: "Don't eat peanuts, or you will get sick and die!"

Friend: "Your mom is a stupid poopy-head. I eat peanuts, and I don't die. Here, have some of mine, just don't tell any of the grown-ups you ate them."

Allergic kid gets sick dies, refusing to the very end to admit to eating his friend's peanuts.

It's probably a lot less verbal when two-year-olds are involved, but the intent and results are still the same.


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2014-03-06 08:29:40 AM  
1 votes:

optikeye: If the daycare says "no outside food allowed" I fail to see why this is an issue at all.


Because the teacher could have simply removed the sandwich and reminded the parents that no outside food is allowed due to concerns about allergies.

You know, like a reasonable person would do.
2014-03-06 08:22:54 AM  
1 votes:
Ahhh, allergy snowflakes. When my son graduated my wife, a caterer, did the food for the Senior all night party. One of the parents, the mother of the homecoming queen made sure that we and everyone else on the committee knew that her snowflake was allergic to peanuts and that the ice cream bar could not have nuts. I was fine with that, I understood. Because I too am allergic to several things including types of nuts, fish and even beer.

When putting together the snack list for later in the night we asked if we could add individual packaged trail mix (like little Kars travel packs) she said "NO! And don't bring Reese's or snickers either!" At that point I was more than irritated. This girl was about to a attend the states biggest university, she was going to have to learn to watch out for herself. But, my wife gave me "the look" and I kept my mouth shut.

The night of the party another girll came to us and said "I'm allergic to gluten and many different spices, I can't have the taco bar or the pizza, I'm sorry, can I call someone to bring me food or can I get it myself?"

Here's the kicker, the second girl had told the powers that be that she was allergic months prior, nobody paid attention because she wasn't the homecoming queen/valedictorian/queen bee's daughter. I felt awful for her because as a regular kid (one of the poors) no one worried or paid attention to her (WAY harder to avoid) allergy. I drove to our restaurant at 1am and made her a huge meal, gluten and spice free. she never complained and was extremely grateful.

/2years ago, I'm still irritated by the snowflake and her mother
//she has been in college for two years and hasn't died yet, although her mommy may live in the dorm with her

Tl;dr learn to watch out for yourself, don't make your allergy everyone else's problem, I don't
2014-03-06 08:22:17 AM  
1 votes:

BMFPitt: In currently looking at preschools for my 3 year old. All the peanut Nazis are right out. Do I need to ask about cheese now, too?


I like telling this story:  (totally unrelated to children, perhaps the mindset/selfishness...but does involve peanuts)

A few years ago I worked for a local IT company doing sales.  We hired a chick fresh out of college as an intern for HR, with a guaranteed full time hire and raise after 6 months.

I am not lying when I say that she, on day one asked the CEO/Owner, and emailed everybody in the office to refrain from bringing in anything peanut related, as she will have "a deadly" reaction.  Of course everyone ignored it, and the CEO got pretty pissed at her, but he let is slide as she was new, fresh out of college, and "didn't know any better."

Fast forward about a week, Monday, 8 in the morning, there are about 6-8 printed signs around the entrance of the office, and in the kitchen asking once again that no one bring in anything that contains peanuts.

Keep in mind, we have a vending machine with some stuff that contains peanuts, as well as a very large pantry of employer provided snack and junk food, some of which contains peanuts.

The CEO walks into the kitchen, sees the signs, and loudly shouts "WHAT THE FARK IS THIS ALL ABOUT...GODDAMMIT MEGAN...WHARGRABBLE!!!"  Miss No-Peanut Princess rounds the corner mid shout and the CEO looks at her, and proceeds to lay into her about self entitlement, personal responsibility, etc. and fired her right there, in the middle of the kitchen, 25' from the sales pit, in front of over 40 sales, engineering, and marketing people.

The look of embarrassment and shame that washed over her was epic.
2014-03-06 08:13:57 AM  
1 votes:
Who wants to bet half teachers there bring Starbucks to work with them? Maybe bring cheese too.
2014-03-06 08:05:41 AM  
1 votes:
My children go to preschool where two weeks a year each child has to bring snacks. Cheese is perfectly fine to bring, but nuts aren't. Don't get the biatchiness in this one.
2014-03-06 08:05:30 AM  
1 votes:
Zero Tolerance policies are stupid and ridiculous.

And you agreed to it Dad.
2014-03-06 07:49:07 AM  
1 votes:
I more impressed that the 2 yo put it in her pocket instead of stuffing behind the car seat only to be found when Dad had to track down what was stinking up the car.
2014-03-06 07:43:46 AM  
1 votes:

Peki: optikeye: If the daycare says "no outside food allowed" I fail to see why this is an issue at all.

Couldn't tell from the article though if it was all outside food or just peanut butter?

/beats me if there's a cheese with peanut butter in it though

AverageAmericanGuy: The parents got some kind of problem with the school? Why go through the extra work of making a lunch if it's against the rules in the first place?

Idiots.

You win the DNRTFA prize. It wasn't lunch. It was breakfast, but the 2-yo stuck it in her pocket instead of eating it.


The peanut butter thing was poor writing. It was an example of another, more drastic rule, of the daycare - automatic expulsion if found with peanut butter. (Considering that peanut allergies can cause death...)

The child in this case was merely suspended.
2014-03-06 07:41:02 AM  
1 votes:
At the age of 2, the suspension is punishment against the parent, not the child. The child isn't going to care.

Yes, it was an accident, but having to take personal time for three days to watch little Sally would teach me to make sure she doesn't slip any more food into her pockets.

On the other hand, this leading to one more parent taking the time to raise their own child is probably a good thing.
2014-03-06 07:40:34 AM  
1 votes:
Meh. Honest mistake, but they agreed beforehand to the rules. Best of luck to them finding a better care provider that allows cheese.
2014-03-06 07:37:00 AM  
1 votes:
FTFA:  Nancy Brisebois, assistant director at Centre D'Enfant aux 4 Vents, said she couldn't discuss the specific incident, but that the French-language centre clearly communicates their policy, which includes automatic expulsion for possession of peanut butter, to parents.

I could never understand that.  Does peanut butter aerosolize (or whatever) and float through the air or something?  Are all allergic kids within range of a peanut farm in mortal danger?
2014-03-06 07:36:54 AM  
1 votes:
This thread is pretty epic so far. Keep 'em coming!
2014-03-06 02:17:26 AM  
1 votes:

optikeye: If the daycare says "no outside food allowed" I fail to see why this is an issue at all.


Couldn't tell from the article though if it was all outside food or just peanut butter?

/beats me if there's a cheese with peanut butter in it though

AverageAmericanGuy: The parents got some kind of problem with the school? Why go through the extra work of making a lunch if it's against the rules in the first place?

Idiots.


You win the DNRTFA prize. It wasn't lunch. It was breakfast, but the 2-yo stuck it in her pocket instead of eating it.
 
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