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(Mercury News)   In 2016, there will be a recrudescence of a top score of 1600 on the SATs. And they're going to eliminate the essay. And penaltes for wrong guesses. And they're removing bigger, harder, more recondite words   (mercurynews.com) divider line 60
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2014-03-05 09:57:51 PM
If you'd spelled "they're" correctly, that might almost have worked as a headline.
 
2014-03-05 10:29:43 PM
Subrogation of penultimate responsibility relies solely upon the free market.

True or false?
 
2014-03-05 11:51:53 PM

alacrify: If you'd spelled "they're" correctly, that might almost have worked as a headline.


I'm more disgusted that subby didn't know to put an apostrophe on SAT's. Is our students learning, indeed.
 
2014-03-06 01:03:59 AM

Pocket Ninja: alacrify: If you'd spelled "they're" correctly, that might almost have worked as a headline.

I'm more disgusted that subby didn't know to put an apostrophe on SAT's. Is our students learning, indeed.


Bob disagrees with you

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2014-03-06 01:05:06 AM

alacrify: If you'd spelled "they're" correctly, that might almost have worked as a headline.


Perhaps the penaltes for misspellings are not particularly high.
 
2014-03-06 02:23:38 AM
Great. Watering down the result of everyone who took it previously? Do I get an "adjusted" score now? wtf???

/never once as an adult been asked what my SAT score was; wasn't even a consideration when I transferred to university
//so I guess I don't really care much?
 
2014-03-06 02:37:27 AM
I got my BSME, didn't do me any good. Now you'll be judged purely on how many hits your senior project gets on YouTube.
 
2014-03-06 02:38:49 AM

unlikely: Pocket Ninja: alacrify: If you'd spelled "they're" correctly, that might almost have worked as a headline.

I'm more disgusted that subby didn't know to put an apostrophe on SAT's. Is our students learning, indeed.

Bob disagrees with you

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2014-03-06 02:40:46 AM
Amercia, where lowering the bar has become commonplace.

/Don't we all feel superior now?
 
2014-03-06 02:40:57 AM
Well, this will all be relevant to me in my next life.

Assuming of course upon my next reincarnation, I am born to a middle class American family and not to piss poor Indian coolies of the "Untouchable caste".
 
2014-03-06 02:47:57 AM
Subby here...I admit complete failure at an attempt at humor, but my initial misspelling of "they're" and "penalties" (which is actually still misspelled) was deliberate. I was combining bad grammar and spelling with SAT words to make it nonsensical that someone with cromulent vocabulary would have such egregious errors. But I think it was too subtle and/or simply not funny - which I accept. 

But that's what I was shooting for
 
2014-03-06 02:56:57 AM

Pocket Ninja: alacrify: If you'd spelled "they're" correctly, that might almost have worked as a headline.

I'm more disgusted that subby didn't know to put an apostrophe on SAT's. Is our students learning, indeed.


And as usual, you mindlessly parrot that idiocy from Paul Begala about what Bush said. He said "ARE students learning", as in 'seldom the question asked is...are students learning'. People not smart enough to know the difference between "are" and "our" can be counted on to also not know how to use an apostrophe, as your "SAT's" example shows.

Meanwhile, the SAT is stupid. All you need to know about the worth of an adolescent or older in North America can be determined from the loudness of their exhaust. The louder, the more likely they should really stay in Vo-Tech.

Loud exhaust = loser who will invariably fail out
 
2014-03-06 02:59:02 AM

NeuroticRocker: Subby here...I admit complete failure at an attempt at humor, but my initial misspelling of "they're" and "penalties" (which is actually still misspelled) was deliberate. I was combining bad grammar and spelling with SAT words to make it nonsensical that someone with cromulent vocabulary would have such egregious errors. But I think it was too subtle and/or simply not funny - which I accept.

But that's what I was shooting for


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2014-03-06 03:05:34 AM

SirEattonHogg: Well, this will all be relevant to me in my next life.

Assuming of course upon my next reincarnation, I am born to a middle class American family and not to piss poor Indian coolies of the "Untouchable caste".


Caste has never been an ironclad indicator of socio-economic status in India (and no longer officially exists in India).  You could be a merchant of middling caste living in a large compound, and your high-caste kitchen staff would most likely be living in some shacks out back - and not just now, but at least as far back as pre-Muslim India.  Hell, remember the diplomat woman that set off the spat between India and the US because she was trying to keep her maid as slave labor?  The diplomat was a dalit, which - depending upon who's defining the term - is either untouchable, or so microscopically just above untouchable as to make no never mind.  The maid was almost certainly of higher caste, but was poorer and kept as semi-chattel by the rich, powerful untouchable - and India was willing to raise an international stink over her.

All in all, I would rather be the untouchable, because if you're actually poor, you aren't going to college anyway - and let's be honest, with things going as they are, the middle-class kid isn't going either.  But, if you are untouchable and loaded, you're going to an Oxbridge school, and they don't give a flying flip about the SAT, ACT, or NFL.
 
2014-03-06 03:14:58 AM
FTA:
Can't believe quoted student is at all stymied by current version:

Tania Perez, 17, a senior at Capital City Public Charter School in Washington, said, "Some of the SAT words that we've seen, well personally, I've seen, taking the SAT ... I've never heard of them and stuff."
 
2014-03-06 03:32:57 AM

diaphoresis: Amercia, where lowering the bar has become commonplace.

/Don't we all feel superior now?


Common Core.
 
2014-03-06 03:33:59 AM

Peki: Great. Watering down the result of everyone who took it previously? Do I get an "adjusted" score now? wtf???

/never once as an adult been asked what my SAT score was; wasn't even a consideration when I transferred to university
//so I guess I don't really care much?


The Sats just don't matter that much. I took it back when the top score was 1600, fell asleep half way through, got a 980. Don't care.
 
2014-03-06 03:42:50 AM

robohobo: diaphoresis: Amercia, where lowering the bar has become commonplace.

/Don't we all feel superior now?

Common Core.


Thanks for FTFM.
 
2014-03-06 04:20:45 AM
What  dandy said,.  That is a priceless quote. I'm positive the author left it in in purpose.  Subtle humor ... like subby's. Me likey
 
2014-03-06 04:32:17 AM

Marcus Aurelius: Subrogation of penultimate responsibility relies solely upon the free market.

True or false?


The second-to-last responsibility? What would that be?
 
2014-03-06 04:37:27 AM

Pocket Ninja: alacrify: If you'd spelled "they're" correctly, that might almost have worked as a headline.

I'm more disgusted that subby didn't know to put an apostrophe on SAT's. Is our students learning, indeed.


You know you've been on Fark too long when people don't realize who you are and why you post what you post.
 
2014-03-06 04:54:38 AM
Sounds like a perfectly cromulent course of action.
 
2014-03-06 04:58:36 AM

SevenizGud: Pocket Ninja: alacrify: If you'd spelled "they're" correctly, that might almost have worked as a headline.

I'm more disgusted that subby didn't know to put an apostrophe on SAT's. Is our students learning, indeed.

And as usual, you mindlessly parrot that idiocy from Paul Begala about what Bush said. He said "ARE students learning", as in 'seldom the question asked is...are students learning'. People not smart enough to know the difference between "are" and "our" can be counted on to also not know how to use an apostrophe, as your "SAT's" example shows.

Meanwhile, the SAT is stupid. All you need to know about the worth of an adolescent or older in North America can be determined from the loudness of their exhaust. The louder, the more likely they should really stay in Vo-Tech.

Loud exhaust = loser who will invariably fail out


Yeah, based on your posts, I already knew you got shiatty SAT scores.
You're an idiot, so it comes as no surprise.
 
2014-03-06 05:01:26 AM
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2014-03-06 05:17:10 AM
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2014-03-06 06:05:53 AM
Human graders for the essay section must be costing them too much money.
 
2014-03-06 06:12:42 AM
FTA: '"Some of the SAT words that we've seen, well personally, I've seen, taking the SAT ... I've never heard of them and stuff," Perez said.'

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2014-03-06 06:22:37 AM
"Some of the SAT words that we've seen, well personally, I've seen, taking the SAT ... I've never heard of them and stuff," Perez said. "That would have been better for me. I think my score would have been a lot higher."

I`m sure if all the questions were easy you would get them all right...

Look people, the test is not supposed to be easy for everyone. The hard questions separate the ones that can answer them and the ones that cannot. If you find you can`t answer questions often, you may be stupid.
 
2014-03-06 06:27:07 AM

dready zim: I`m sure if all the questions were easy you would get them all right...

Look people, the test is not supposed to be easy for everyone. The hard questions separate the ones that who can answer them and the ones that who cannot. If you find you can`t answer questions often, you may be stupid.


*sigh*
 
2014-03-06 06:27:11 AM

SevenizGud: Meanwhile, the SAT is stupid.


Ah, the eternal rallying cry of the failed...

I recently held workshops for young offenders, when they couldn`t do something they all would say "That`s stupid" to stop themselves being embarrassed at their lack of ability to do a simple task.

It was sort of cute seeing that all they had was front.

Nothing behind it, just front and attitude.
 
2014-03-06 06:29:28 AM
I predict a veritable plethora of embiggened scores.
 
2014-03-06 06:29:57 AM
I dont know how I feel about this. I took the SAT before they had the essay question and if I had to take them with it I would've blown it. In Maryland I did have to pass the Maryland writing test and that took months of prep for me to pass. In the grand scheme the SAT is meaningless.
 
2014-03-06 06:39:40 AM

DrPainMD: FTA: '"Some of the SAT words that we've seen, well personally, I've seen, taking the SAT ... I've never heard of them and stuff," Perez said.'

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I've seen this chick posted twice in the last couple of days.  Who is she?  Clean her up and bring her to my room.
 
2014-03-06 06:46:30 AM
Why are they getting rid of the essay? Because it is now an insurmountable task for students.
 
2014-03-06 06:48:47 AM

NeuroticRocker: Subby here...I admit complete failure at an attempt at humor, but my initial misspelling of "they're" and "penalties" (which is actually still misspelled) was deliberate. I was combining bad grammar and spelling with SAT words to make it nonsensical that someone with cromulent vocabulary would have such egregious errors. But I think it was too subtle and/or simply not funny - which I accept. 

But that's what I was shooting for


I say nicely done and HOTY worthy.
 
2014-03-06 06:55:38 AM
I'll show you how the score comes out
[crumbles test paper]
TWO POINTS! THERE'S YOUR GODDAMN SCORE! Cats crawling on trees, five time five is twenty-five.
FARK THIS PLACE! FARK IT!
 
2014-03-06 07:03:14 AM

dready zim: "Some of the SAT words that we've seen, well personally, I've seen, taking the SAT ... I've never heard of them and stuff," Perez said. "That would have been better for me. I think my score would have been a lot higher."

I`m sure if all the questions were easy you would get them all right...

Look people, the test is not supposed to be easy for everyone. The hard questions separate the ones that can answer them and the ones that cannot. If you find you can`t answer questions often, you may be stupid.


Because having a mommy and daddy with the money to spend on high-priced tutors, prep classes and software makes no difference.
 
2014-03-06 07:04:18 AM
If they want people to get better scores on their SATs they shouldn't hold them at 8 am on Saturday mornings. Teenage me knew that was stupid and adult me works mostly at night.
 
2014-03-06 07:09:20 AM

DrPainMD: dready zim: I`m sure if all the questions were easy you would get them all right...

Look people, the test is not supposed to be easy for everyone. The hard questions separate the ones that who can answer them and the ones that who cannot. If you find you can`t answer questions often, you may be stupid.

*sigh*


Your asterisks are used inappropriately as you have the option of bold or italics...

If you are correcting the grammar of another that is.

sigh

If we are being pedantic the whole sentence structure is incorrect. You also used `who` to correct me when you should have used `whom` instead. It should read `The hard questions will separate those whom can from those whom cannot answer` as I am using the person in the object position in the sentence and `the hard questions` as the subject.

If we are being really pedantic then there are still things wrong but we could carry on all day...
 
2014-03-06 07:09:34 AM

August11: Why are they getting rid of the essay? Because it is now an insurmountable task for students.


The essay portion was as much about organizing your thoughts and transcribing them quickly to paper, as about the content itself. Some folks are just slow writers and edit themselves multiple times before submission. These people can be superior writers but because of the time constraints they score poorly on these tests.
 
2014-03-06 07:11:58 AM

fozziewazzi: dready zim: "Some of the SAT words that we've seen, well personally, I've seen, taking the SAT ... I've never heard of them and stuff," Perez said. "That would have been better for me. I think my score would have been a lot higher."

I`m sure if all the questions were easy you would get them all right...

Look people, the test is not supposed to be easy for everyone. The hard questions separate the ones that can answer them and the ones that cannot. If you find you can`t answer questions often, you may be stupid.

Because having a mommy and daddy with the money to spend on high-priced tutors, prep classes and software makes no difference.


Of course it does, that`s part of the test. You don`t think it only tests how smart you are do you? It`s a social ladder test too.

You did read that it was if you cannot answer questions often, you may be stupid not just the SATs and not just grammar?
 
2014-03-06 07:22:41 AM
The SAT does not test the student, it tests their parents, the teachers and how much effort and money they have applied collectively to the student.

It is the Social Altitude Test. How high up the social ladder are you?

You have to be really dumb to fail with rich parents and really smart to pass with poor parents.
 
2014-03-06 07:30:58 AM

fozziewazzi: August11: Why are they getting rid of the essay? Because it is now an insurmountable task for students.

The essay portion was as much about organizing your thoughts and transcribing them quickly to paper, as about the content itself. Some folks are just slow writers and edit themselves multiple times before submission. These people can be superior writers but because of the time constraints they score poorly on these tests.


I agree that timed essay tests assess quick decision making. But they also betray whether or not a student can organize any thought at all, or engage with one or more texts.

And most college bound students cannot write a sustained synthesis of two texts. Everyone in HE knows this, but no one is doing anything about it. And now the unions are backing out of the common core.

My theory: the common core now requires the reading of book-length works in the sixth grade. Which is easier to teach? A chapter on the industrial revolution or David Copperfield?

I don't know. It just seems like a lot of retreating to me.
 
2014-03-06 07:31:34 AM
There dummun doun are studints and where gonna paei teh price.
 
2014-03-06 07:43:15 AM
My kid needs a high SAT score, see what you can do.
www.dhakatribune.com
 
2014-03-06 07:44:07 AM
Eh, more students now take the ACT anyway.
 
2014-03-06 07:45:56 AM

dready zim: DrPainMD: dready zim: I`m sure if all the questions were easy you would get them all right...

Look people, the test is not supposed to be easy for everyone. The hard questions separate the ones that who can answer them and the ones that who cannot. If you find you can`t answer questions often, you may be stupid.

*sigh*

Your asterisks are used inappropriately as you have the option of bold or italics...

If you are correcting the grammar of another that is.

sigh

If we are being pedantic the whole sentence structure is incorrect. You also used `who` to correct me when you should have used `whom` instead. It should read `The hard questions will separate those whom can from those whom cannot answer` as I am using the person in the object position in the sentence and `the hard questions` as the subject.

If we are being really pedantic then there are still things wrong but we could carry on all day...


No, "who" is correct. The who/whom rule is the same as the he/him rule.
"...he can..."
"...he cannot..."

*sigh*
 
2014-03-06 07:47:45 AM

Bigdogdaddy: DrPainMD: FTA: '"Some of the SAT words that we've seen, well personally, I've seen, taking the SAT ... I've never heard of them and stuff," Perez said.'

[remotecontrol.mtv.com image 445x336]

I've seen this chick posted twice in the last couple of days.  Who is she?  Clean her up and bring her to my room.


Miss Teen South Carolina. Enjoy.
 
2014-03-06 07:53:45 AM

Bigdogdaddy: DrPainMD: FTA: '"Some of the SAT words that we've seen, well personally, I've seen, taking the SAT ... I've never heard of them and stuff," Perez said.'

[remotecontrol.mtv.com image 445x336]

I've seen this chick posted twice in the last couple of days.  Who is she?  Clean her up and bring her to my room.


Here ya go buddy.

I hope you like dumb chicks and such as.
 
2014-03-06 08:05:09 AM

diaphoresis: Amercia, where lowering the bar has become commonplace.

/Don't we all feel superior now?


Wait until they  tie Financial Aid that students can get to the graduation rates at the college they are going to.

College will get much much easier.
 
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