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(Buzzfeed)   Behind the speech that launched Marco Rubio's comeback. In other news, apparently Marco Rubio is still around. Who knew?   (buzzfeed.com ) divider line
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2014-03-05 07:46:57 PM  
reidreport.com
 
2014-03-05 07:47:23 PM  
"Come back"? He's never "been".
 
2014-03-05 07:48:17 PM  
Who?
 
2014-03-05 07:50:20 PM  
Rubio get's indignant that someone enjoyed a visit to Cuba and clown hall has moved him off the RINO list? That's the big comeback?
 
2014-03-05 07:50:42 PM  
Don't call it a comeback.  He's still dead in the water.
 
2014-03-05 07:53:31 PM  
"Marco Rubio came back?"

"Marco Rubio never left."
 
2014-03-05 07:53:43 PM  
thebeerean.com
 
2014-03-05 07:53:44 PM  

The_Y2P_Problem: Don't call it a comeback.  He's still dead in the water.


Don't call it a comeback if nobody even knows what the speech was or when it happened.
 
2014-03-05 07:58:53 PM  
Next week's headline:
The speech that wrecked Marco Rubio's comeback.
 
2014-03-05 08:00:29 PM  
Comeback?  Did he figure out a new way to say Jodete, yo tengo lo mio?
 
2014-03-05 08:03:59 PM  

fusillade762: [thebeerean.com image 634x319]


If you weren't going to post that I was at least going to reference that. Thanks for getting that out of the way :)

Incidentally isn't LL some sort of Republican these days?
 
2014-03-05 08:07:42 PM  
Was this article written by a Rubio staffer?

It's practically begging him to let the writer suck his dick.
 
2014-03-05 08:08:05 PM  
Is this the crazy Cuban, or the crazy Canadian Cuban?
 
2014-03-05 08:12:44 PM  
What speech.
 
2014-03-05 08:14:48 PM  
I can't imagine a comeback speech is going to undo the damage done by the speech that caused a comeback to be necessary.
 
2014-03-05 08:15:16 PM  
Oh, I get it. "Comeback" as in he has reestablished his conservative bonafides. Not as in people care about him again.
 
2014-03-05 08:19:17 PM  
The Senator from Florida bashed Cuba.  Stunning.
 
2014-03-05 08:20:07 PM  

MFAWG: Is this the crazy Cuban, or the crazy Canadian Cuban?


He's the crazy one from Florida, but he's less crazy than Cruze.  He's unfortunately a teabagger, though they've been pushing him away because he tried to take a stand for immigration reform.
 
2014-03-05 08:23:44 PM  
Conservatives are more fickle than 13 year old girls.
 
2014-03-05 08:26:20 PM  

TV's Vinnie: Conservatives are more fickle than 13 year old girls.


And less mature.
 
2014-03-05 08:33:00 PM  

TV's Vinnie: Conservatives are more fickle than 13 year old girls.


But just as obsessed with teenage boys.

Sorry, low hanging fruit
 
2014-03-05 08:33:36 PM  
"Polo!"


/*waits for comeback*
//no comeback
 
2014-03-05 08:34:30 PM  
What speech?  If it didn't have to do with Ukraine or a Putin, nobody heard it.
 
2014-03-05 08:38:38 PM  
Marco Rubio? Hmmm. I thought he was deported for his parents using him as an anchor baby...
 
2014-03-05 08:43:08 PM  
No, it wasn't a comeback speech.

It was a desperate cry of loneliness from the Tea Bag Forest, looking for attention.
 
2014-03-05 08:46:46 PM  
Why do they keep asking the junior senator of Florida his opinion?
We don't farking care what you think lil' Marco!
 
2014-03-05 08:49:20 PM  
Not every single thing he said about Cuba and Venezuela are entirely true... but enough of them, including some of the worse ones are. But all those things, we currently support governments that do the same or worse. It doesn't make it right. But when is Rubio or any other Cuba hawk going to give a speech about cutting off trade and levying sanctions against China, Saudi Arabia, or some other country where it would be really expensive for us? Having said that... what Harkin said if it was explained right, then it was stupid. Cuba is a repressive police state... it's not all Hitlery-Supervillain-like as the GOP and the Miami Cubans say it is... but it ain't good either.
 
2014-03-05 09:05:39 PM  

kbronsito: Cuba is a repressive police state... it's not all Hitlery-Supervillain-like as the GOP and the Miami Cubans say it is... but it ain't good either.


Trade sanctions hurt the citizens, not their government.
It is disgusting that Cuban expats want to punish their former countrymen out of spite.
 
2014-03-05 09:27:22 PM  

geek_mars: Next week's headline:
The speech that wrecked Marco Rubio's comeback.


probably the same speech
 
2014-03-05 09:39:35 PM  

Without Fail: kbronsito: Cuba is a repressive police state... it's not all Hitlery-Supervillain-like as the GOP and the Miami Cubans say it is... but it ain't good either.

Trade sanctions hurt the citizens, not their government.
It is disgusting that Cuban expats want to punish their former countrymen out of spite.


If you are some sort of moral absolutist like he's seemingly purports  to be... Cuba bad, therefore tough love and sanctions. But he's willing to look the other way when levying those sanctions would be inconvenient, it's even worse.

I'm not opposed to sanctions under certain conditions, specially if you are dealing with a situation where it could actually help. The threat and actual application of sanctions has been used effectively on occasion. But the Cuba ones clearly haven't, they aren't going to work, it's a bad policy morally and on the basis of outcome. Most should be lifted, leaving only the one that can be targeted to government officials, even if those will also be ineffective. But symbolically, it would be important to keep those and they would still inconvenience some of those farkers. I don't mind being petty to a bunch of actual autocrats instead of their people.

But opening the floodgate means that there would be spaces where our system and society will meet theirs and slowly and through soft power challenge the status quo in their country, hopefully for the better. (I'd like to be all deep and say that maybe we'll find some good things about their society that would influence our country... but we are America, we don't pay attention to what foreigners think). Obviously those in power are going to use the extra income from trade to try to adapt their tactics to the new order... so they can stay in charge. They would be taking a big risk with free travel and trade. But they can't very well turn it down, since they've been asking for it. America would do well to offer close to normal relationships. Eventually, the Cuban government may try to clamp down on some spaces that will open up through trade, if these become headaches. And then, we can probably rightly complain and threaten to reimpose some sanctions after they are already hooked on trade. America would be back in a position to offer both carrots and sticks when talking to Cuba about political rights. At this moment, we've just been stuck on stick mode for so long, they've forgotten about the carrot so that we may as well not have it.  It is still somewhat cold because the end moves may include renewed sanctions that will again punish regular folks. But at least it would be a new approach more fluid and adaptable approach and clearly the old one is not working and it is immoral. If we must occasionally have immoral policies due to this being an imperfect world, I'd rather we saved those for shiat that works. So remember, vote Kbronsito... immoral policies that work.
 
2014-03-05 09:41:12 PM  
Did this speaking make him thirsty?
 
2014-03-05 09:42:56 PM  

MFAWG: Is this the crazy Cuban, or the crazy Canadian Cuban?


I was going to say that he's been upstaged by the OTHER crazy Cuban.

/Cruz has the more punchable face, too
 
2014-03-05 09:43:23 PM  
img.fark.net
 
2014-03-05 10:01:10 PM  

kbronsito: But opening the floodgate means that there would be spaces where our system and society will meet theirs and slowly and through soft power challenge the status quo in their country, hopefully for the better.


Give them the internet and food, and then wait.

It won't take long.
 
2014-03-05 10:43:41 PM  
Maybe he could remember that he is a representative for a US population not for Cuba and Cubans.
 
2014-03-05 10:52:28 PM  

meat0918: [reidreport.com image 617x331]


I hope he's on a presidential ticket some day.  Just so at a debate his opponent can ask him if he's sure he's fine with his water being so far away from the podium.
 
2014-03-05 10:56:25 PM  

gaspode: Maybe he could remember that he is a representative for a US population not for Cuba and Cubans.


He represents FL, and the Cuban vote matters here.  However, he's tied in to the old way of Cuban-American thinking.  The old guard is still pissed about what they feel was their property unfairly seized by the Castro regime, and prefers continuing the hard stance.

The younger generation realizes that whatever land and holdings were seized when Castro came into power are never going to be returned, and that the embargo and travel restrictions hurt both those who live on the island and those who now live in the US but have family and cultural ties to Cuba.

Rubio is standing up for the pissed off old Cubans, which isn't really a surprise because the GOP in general is all about representing cantankerous old people, but the tide is turning, and his views don't represent all Cuban-Americans, with more and more favoring reestablishing cordial relations.
 
2014-03-05 11:30:20 PM  
What is this bullshiat?
 
2014-03-06 12:19:06 AM  
Is it like KIm Kardashian's come back story?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OQhS2q7IHQM
 
2014-03-06 12:21:00 AM  
img.fark.net
 
2014-03-06 12:25:06 AM  

Virulency: geek_mars: Next week's headline:
The speech that wrecked Marco Rubio's comeback.

probably the same speech


/that's the joke
 
2014-03-06 01:25:34 AM  

Without Fail: TV's Vinnie: Conservatives are more fickle than 13 year old girls.

But just as obsessed with teenage boys.

Sorry, low hanging fruit


img.photobucket.com

/so, so sorry
 
2014-03-06 02:23:59 AM  

AirForceVet: No, it wasn't a comeback speech.

It was a desperate cry of loneliness from the Tea Bag Forest, looking for attention.


If a conservative cries in the Tea Bag Forest and nobody is around to give two sh*ts, would anybody give two sh*ts? Because frankly I don't give two sh*ts.
 
2014-03-06 03:04:45 AM  
cdn.breitbart.com

Tasty flop sweat
 
2014-03-06 03:12:33 AM  
OK, seriously, someone with LEET shoop skillz needs to shoop a tall cold Sam Adams in place of the water bottle.

At least Mr Rubio does not make me immediately go to PUNCHFACECON 1.
 
2014-03-06 04:38:47 AM  
Tyler Knew. That's who.
 
2014-03-06 05:02:00 AM  

gaspode: Maybe he could remember that he is a representative for a US population not for Cuba and Cubans.


Whar birf sertifickut?
 
2014-03-06 05:23:58 AM  
Much speech. Big comeback. So scare.
 
2014-03-06 06:46:47 AM  

TuteTibiImperes: gaspode: Maybe he could remember that he is a representative for a US population not for Cuba and Cubans.

He represents FL, and the Cuban vote matters here.  However, he's tied in to the old way of Cuban-American thinking.  The old guard is still pissed about what they feel was their property unfairly seized by the Castro regime, and prefers continuing the hard stance.

The younger generation realizes that whatever land and holdings were seized when Castro came into power are never going to be returned, and that the embargo and travel restrictions hurt both those who live on the island and those who now live in the US but have family and cultural ties to Cuba.

Rubio is standing up for the pissed off old Cubans, which isn't really a surprise because the GOP in general is all about representing cantankerous old people, but the tide is turning, and his views don't represent all Cuban-Americans, with more and more favoring reestablishing cordial relations.


Pretty much this.  It is just Rubio finding a way to fellate the base for his attempt at the GOP presidential nomination.  Cuba is still a touchy subject with the non-Cuban GOP base also due to it surviving the U.S. sanctions without devolving into a poverty stricken failed state; and even thriving in some sectors like universal healthcare.  Yes Cuba is an oppressive despotic nation, but they have managed to do a few things right that a free nation such as the U.S. could borrow and do even better.  Unfortunately these are things that are considered ideological threats to the GOP because they help the working class and the poor.
 
2014-03-06 06:48:55 AM  
The GOP clown show continues...
 
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