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(Jalopnik)   Welcome aboard today's flight. We're cruising at 12,000 feet, and that burning smell is the a**hole in seat 12E getting majorly burned by our captain. You go, girl   (flightclub.jalopnik.com) divider line 114
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2014-03-05 07:07:31 PM
I have to say, I'm sick of these "write a fake letter so you can write a scathing response on your blog". The cleaning crew wouldn't look at a napkin left on a passenger's seat before trashing it, even if it had writing on it.

I saw another one recently about some supposedly passive aggressive anti-child at a ski resort. It was too over the top to be real, but it let some blogger rip into non-parents from the perspective of a parent. Ugh.
 
2014-03-05 07:33:45 PM

Gig103: I have to say, I'm sick of these "write a fake letter so you can write a scathing response on your blog". The cleaning crew wouldn't look at a napkin left on a passenger's seat before trashing it, even if it had writing on it.


If you don't think women don't get "you shouldn't be in a position of authority because Jesus" notes, think again.
 
2014-03-05 08:00:38 PM
Hmm, a backwards thinker flying out of Calgary. No real shock there.
 
2014-03-05 08:07:35 PM
Before I get all outraged about this, I'd like a couple of Fark's resident commercial pilots to answer me this simple question:

Would it be possible for a pax to get onto the flight deck long enough to clip that note to the Captain's yoke without being seen?  And if he were seen, would he be allowed to deplane and just walk into the sunset without being questioned by airport security?

Once someone with actual knowledge of this answers me, I will know how to respond, and to who.
 
2014-03-05 08:10:05 PM

dahmers love zombie: Before I get all outraged about this, I'd like a couple of Fark's resident commercial pilots to answer me this simple question:

Would it be possible for a pax to get onto the flight deck long enough to clip that note to the Captain's yoke without being seen?  And if he were seen, would he be allowed to deplane and just walk into the sunset without being questioned by airport security?

Once someone with actual knowledge of this answers me, I will know how to respond, and to who.


Unless something has changed recently WestJet flies with cockpit doors closed, they're only open on pax load and unload.
 
2014-03-05 08:12:52 PM

dahmers love zombie: Before I get all outraged about this, I'd like a couple of Fark's resident commercial pilots to answer me this simple question:

Would it be possible for a pax to get onto the flight deck long enough to clip that note to the Captain's yoke without being seen?  And if he were seen, would he be allowed to deplane and just walk into the sunset without being questioned by airport security?

Once someone with actual knowledge of this answers me, I will know how to respond, and to who.



Per TFA: It was found on his seat and she clipped it to the yoke to take the photo.

Reading between the lines, it sounds like he was a bit of an ass and some flight attendant probably had a laugh about it with the pilot after he left.

/assuming it isn't a fake in one way or another
 
2014-03-05 08:39:06 PM
Fake.
 
2014-03-05 08:50:18 PM
Fake
 
2014-03-05 09:02:08 PM

SecretAgentWoman: Fake.


doglover: Fake


Gig103: I have to say, I'm sick of these "write a fake letter so you can write a scathing response on your blog". The cleaning crew wouldn't look at a napkin left on a passenger's seat before trashing it, even if it had writing on it.



Chariset: If you don't think women don't get "you shouldn't be in a position of authority because Jesus" notes, think again.


Of course we do.  Just like people of color still endure racism and LGBT folk still endure terrible insults - but some of them also fake outrages in order to respond to them.

I'm inclined to agree with Gig103 - it's far more likely that a cleaning crew would simply throw out a written-on napkin on a seat than to pass it to the pilot.  They have to turn those planes around fast.
 
2014-03-05 09:04:08 PM
Last time I flew with Westjet, we had a female pilot, co-pilot and crew.  My 5-year-old daughter was pretty excited.
 
2014-03-05 10:39:02 PM
i.imgur.com
 
2014-03-05 11:02:35 PM

dahmers love zombie: Before I get all outraged about this, I'd like a couple of Fark's resident commercial pilots to answer me this simple question:

Would it be possible for a pax to get onto the flight deck long enough to clip that note to the Captain's yoke without being seen?  And if he were seen, would he be allowed to deplane and just walk into the sunset without being questioned by airport security?

Once someone with actual knowledge of this answers me, I will know how to respond, and to who.


Maybe someone who read TFA instead of just looking at pix will answer you.
 
2014-03-05 11:08:13 PM
I had a junior high teacher who served as a WAC Pilot.  Flew everything that was in service from January 1942 on until VJ Day.  One of the most important people in my life.  After the war she taught and cared for her father.  She left $1m + to the school district.  On a teacher's salary.
 
2014-03-05 11:17:10 PM

God Is My Co-Pirate: Last time I flew with Westjet, we had a female pilot, co-pilot and crew.  My 5-year-old daughter was pretty excited.


Janey, do you like movies on the Lifetime network?

/have you ever been to Wellesley College?
 
2014-03-05 11:18:30 PM
What flight cruises at 12,000 feet? Have you ever been on a plane, subby?
 
2014-03-05 11:19:02 PM

2wolves: I had a junior high teacher who served as a WAC Pilot.  Flew everything that was in service from January 1942 on until VJ Day.  One of the most important people in my life.  After the war she taught and cared for her father.  She left $1m + to the school district.  On a teacher's salary.


Good investments or illicit side business?

\The IRS ain't gonna whine about that mob cash when you leave it to a school, right?
\\I keed.
 
2014-03-05 11:23:42 PM
Her response was a "major burn"?

/maybe I missed something
 
2014-03-05 11:24:44 PM

cptjeff: 2wolves: I had a junior high teacher who served as a WAC Pilot.  Flew everything that was in service from January 1942 on until VJ Day.  One of the most important people in my life.  After the war she taught and cared for her father.  She left $1m + to the school district.  On a teacher's salary.

Good investments or illicit side business?

\The IRS ain't gonna whine about that mob cash when you leave it to a school, right?
\\I keed.


Her name was Mrs. Heisenburg so. . .
 
2014-03-05 11:25:03 PM

cptjeff: 2wolves: I had a junior high teacher who served as a WAC Pilot.  Flew everything that was in service from January 1942 on until VJ Day.  One of the most important people in my life.  After the war she taught and cared for her father.  She left $1m + to the school district.  On a teacher's salary.

Good investments or illicit side business?


No kids, husband, boyfriends, or discretionary spending.
 
2014-03-05 11:25:38 PM
i178.photobucket.com
aisle seat, please
 
2014-03-05 11:26:31 PM
Florence Nightingale would be ever so proud of the aviatrix path she has blazed. Here's to you Captain Nightingale.
 
2014-03-05 11:29:15 PM
www3.pcmag.com

Honestly, it looks like the man is terrified of flying and he's projecting that fear onto her to make it easier for him to deal with his cowardice, after all, now there's a  reason for it...
 
2014-03-05 11:32:39 PM
Interesting that he apparently didn't have the guts to confront the pilot or anyone else directly, yet was willing to write his name and seat number on the note.   This either adds to the calls of "fake" or reinforces that sexist jerks are idiots, so I don't know what to make of it.
Isn't a manifest of passengers fairly common (i.e. essentially on every single commercial flight in the known universe)?  It would be pretty simple for any of the crew or anyone else at the airline to identify the guy.  I'm sure it would be against privacy rules to actually publish his name, but it's a little surprising that someone else from the flight hasn't anonymously posted it somewhere.
 
2014-03-05 11:33:08 PM
Where can I donate internet money to protest this social injustice that will take more time to debunk than my monkey brain takes to donate??!!
 
2014-03-05 11:33:59 PM
I'll approach this with two responses, one from the "I'd put a fair bit of money down that this is fake" perspective and one from the "there are people in this world who would say shiat like that" perspective.

"This is fake" response: You don't need to be an attention whore, making up fake letters to make yourself look better and all. All you do by doing that is piss everyone off and make yourself look bad. And you may lose your job for it, too.

"It's real" response: The guy who wrote this is a pig who needs to thrown into a mud pit and fed slop like all the other pigs. He's probably an old guy who's been divorced 3 times because of his chauvinist attitude and can't stand that there's women getting jobs and making more money than he is. He needs to go fark himself since that's probably the only action he gets anyway.

/I've given up trying to guess whether these things are real or made up so I don't bother trying.
 
2014-03-05 11:36:46 PM
What's wrong with being sexy?
 
2014-03-05 11:39:50 PM
It's not a cockpit if both captain and first officer are female.

It's a box office.

/old joke
//entire line of males in my fathers family are pilots
///carrier fighters in the navy
////then commercial pilots upon release
//i only know how to fly gliders
//they're fun
 
2014-03-05 11:40:30 PM
Was the co-pilot a man? Flight deck, yes, but there may still have been a cock.
 
2014-03-05 11:41:21 PM
I know two female pilots for Air Canada.  One of them flies a triple-7.  I have no doubt either of them can pull off a Sully Sullenberger on the Hudson if they had to.
 
2014-03-05 11:41:24 PM

Testiclaw: It's not a cockpit if both captain and first officer are female.

It's a box office.

/old joke
//entire line of males in my fathers family are pilots
///carrier fighters in the navy
////then commercial pilots upon release
//i only know how to fly gliders
//they're fun


40 seconds. Grrr...
 
2014-03-05 11:42:15 PM
Chick is a liar, if nothing else. We don't all have the same rights, chicks get a lot more.
 
2014-03-05 11:43:00 PM
The passenger needs to re-read Proverbs 31.  It specifically mentions women doing work besides cleaning and cooking.  This bit, for example, does not describe someone who is only doing housework:

She considers a field and buys it;
    out of her earnings she plants a vineyard.
She sets about her work vigorously;
    her arms are strong for her tasks.
She sees that her trading is profitable,
    and her lamp does not go out at night.


The description of the woman in Proverbs 31 is actually the impossibly perfect SuperMom, who not only does house work, but other work too.
 
2014-03-05 11:44:10 PM
Last I checked, flying an airliner didn't involve bench pressing the passengers, so I think we're good here.

I wish I could fly.
 
2014-03-05 11:47:00 PM
With older guys, this was a lot more prevalent in the 70s and 80s when I was a bit younger, but many of them have died since then. A lot of women have flown very gently, a lot of male pilots fly the plane like they're raping it.
 
2014-03-05 11:48:54 PM
I have no problem with female pilots. All the planes nowadays have automatics, and power steering.
 
2014-03-05 11:50:08 PM
Not newsworthy
 
2014-03-05 11:52:30 PM

Chariset: Gig103: I have to say, I'm sick of these "write a fake letter so you can write a scathing response on your blog". The cleaning crew wouldn't look at a napkin left on a passenger's seat before trashing it, even if it had writing on it.

If you don't think women don't get "you shouldn't be in a position of authority because Jesus" notes, think again.


He didn't say that; he said he thought this one wasn't real. Asking if the pilot's qualified could get a guy removed from the plane.

/I'm the one saying they're all fake.
 
2014-03-05 11:52:30 PM

Ex-Texan: With older guys, this was a lot more prevalent in the 70s and 80s when I was a bit younger, but many of them have died since then. A lot of women have flown very gently, a lot of male pilots fly the plane like they're raping it.


My father has often said the same thing, instructing women in both gliders and power-planes. The initial timidness, generally, that comes with women tends to give way to very gentle, confident flying.

Too many guys muscle things around, brash. Flying is a game of awareness and small corrections, but people miss that.

My father has been around planes since his birth, still flies commercially and power on the side, as well as instructing and running a glider field, and getting as much time soaring as he can.

He hates most pilots.
 
2014-03-05 11:52:40 PM

Doom MD: Not newsworthy


it's not news its... fark it.
 
2014-03-05 11:52:47 PM
I guess it's too late for one of these ladies to give this guy a ride with a free airlock demonstration.
i.imgur.com  i.imgur.com
 
2014-03-05 11:53:09 PM

dv-ous: Last I checked, flying an airliner didn't involve bench pressing the passengers, so I think we're good here.

I wish I could fly.


Where are you located?
 
2014-03-05 11:53:44 PM

Perducci: Interesting that he apparently didn't have the guts to confront the pilot or anyone else directly, yet was willing to write his name and seat number on the note.   This either adds to the calls of "fake" or reinforces that sexist jerks are idiots, so I don't know what to make of it.
Isn't a manifest of passengers fairly common (i.e. essentially on every single commercial flight in the known universe)?  It would be pretty simple for any of the crew or anyone else at the airline to identify the guy.  I'm sure it would be against privacy rules to actually publish his name, but it's a little surprising that someone else from the flight hasn't anonymously posted it somewhere.


He was Canadian, so since they are politely non confrontational he left a note.
 
2014-03-05 11:56:15 PM

Testiclaw: dv-ous: Last I checked, flying an airliner didn't involve bench pressing the passengers, so I think we're good here.

I wish I could fly.

Where are you located?


In the US.

Private license is on the bucket list. But I need to be rich first. (Working on it.)
 
2014-03-05 11:58:03 PM

mbillips: What flight cruises at 12,000 feet? Have you ever been on a plane, subby?


To be fair, some regional flights would do that.  Not many, but the short ones will.

Though this flight would definitely be around 350.
 
2014-03-06 12:01:48 AM

mbillips: What flight cruises at 12,000 feet? Have you ever been on a plane, subby?


One that doesn't have a pressurized cabin.
 
2014-03-06 12:03:42 AM
My flight instructor was female.  She was damn good, not a macho asshole like some of the other CFI's.
 
2014-03-06 12:05:05 AM
He was probably a Mormon, or Islam, or Catholic, or...
 
2014-03-06 12:06:57 AM
I call shenanigans.

How can anyone tell that's truly a "sexist note?" I couldn't even read half of that chicken scrawl to be sure.

/anyone care to translate? I don't speak boar.
 
2014-03-06 12:18:04 AM
Sounds as fake as the attention whore waitress in ny who faked a note from a customer about getting no tip for being gay.
 
2014-03-06 12:20:46 AM

dv-ous: Testiclaw: dv-ous: Last I checked, flying an airliner didn't involve bench pressing the passengers, so I think we're good here.

I wish I could fly.

Where are you located?

In the US.

Private license is on the bucket list. But I need to be rich first. (Working on it.)


I'd seriously recommend searching for a glider field near you.

The license is much cheaper, and pilots who learn to fly gliders make much, much better power-pilots.
 
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