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(CNN)   Sanjay Gupta almost doesn't want to be known as the "Pot Doc". But, like, whatever, man   (cnn.com) divider line 67
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2014-03-05 06:40:44 PM
Smart Money would take that position.

Science, you farkers! Science could trump the sociopaths at last.
But, you must set it free.
 
2014-03-05 07:26:46 PM
I feel a greater responsibility than ever to make sure those heated discussions are also well-informed by science.

Thank you, Dr. Gupta.
 
2014-03-05 08:07:03 PM
He is kindly doing the needful
 
2014-03-05 08:08:24 PM
Whatever it takes to make my weed stock go up
 
2014-03-05 08:08:28 PM
This journey is also about a Draconian system where politics override science and patients are caught in the middle.

Welcome to America!
 
2014-03-05 08:08:32 PM
sorry, I pre-empted that name in 1992

so sorry, not for you
 
2014-03-05 08:12:43 PM
Talk about leaving the reservation...

/aisle seat please
 
2014-03-05 08:14:46 PM

Smeggy Smurf: Whatever it takes to make my weed stock go up


If you needed more stock, wouldn't it just be easier to go buy some? Preferably before you run out, of course.
 
2014-03-05 08:19:05 PM
Better late than never, I suppose.
 
2014-03-05 08:21:40 PM
http://www.theonion.com/video/new-marijuana-study-says-everyone-knows - youre-high,35386/

/and OMG i just realized the last 3rd of the video changes whenever you watch it. BAHAHA
 
2014-03-05 08:24:26 PM
He must have got ahold of some DANK.
 
2014-03-05 08:24:48 PM
If nothing else, medical marijuana means retired doctors can make some extra cash on the side writing marijuana recommendations from a "clinic" located in a strip mall. You'd think all doctors would be in favor.
 
gja [TotalFark]
2014-03-05 08:25:35 PM
I like the doc. Too bad for him he is young, and his assholes 'peers' will likely punish him for speaking his mind and daring to buck the system.
 
2014-03-05 08:26:13 PM
Damn! Crude Creationism too late again. Needs to be renamed Political Science.
 
2014-03-05 08:27:30 PM
That was a really good article.  And instead of criticizing Gupta for his original stance, I'll applaud him for actually letting himself change position on a subject due to facts, unlike almost anyone else.

Good on ya mate.
 
2014-03-05 08:37:16 PM
It is not easy to apologize and take your lumps, but this was never about me.

Kinda ironic words when considering that much of the medical marijuana is for cancer patients!
 
2014-03-05 08:37:28 PM
Weed - CNN Special Dr Sanjay Gupta 2013 Documentary

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B4GUkzTnFG0
 
2014-03-05 08:37:50 PM
I hope when weed is truly legal that it will be come standard to have to use normal words.

I got high, stoned, baked, etc are fine.

I am tired of hearing white people say "I just vaped some triple purple indica mixed with BC hydro that my boy sells for 120 an 1/8."  Weed snobs are the worst.

And if you get caught smoking in your car, rolling the blunt outside the 7/11, or in the alley behind the bar, it is your own fault, do not blame the man.  You should not be burning and driving.
 
2014-03-05 08:39:09 PM

gja: I like the doc. Too bad for him he is young, and his assholes 'peers' will likely punish him for speaking his mind and daring to buck the system.


Wind is blowing the right direction. I'm a resident at a large teaching hospital (roughly 1000 other young doctors here), and the consensus even in a deep red Southern state seems to be that no one cares. The most popular medical opinion I've come across is basically, "Marijuana itself is not harmful, but all forms of smoking are horrible for you." A few remain staunchly against it, a few think it could be useful. I'm in the pro legalization camp, but am not convinced we'll get any wonder drugs out of it. If we do, that'd be great. If not, still should be legal, who cares? Even most of the older docs seem to be on board. It's just not the bogeyman it once was, there's bigger fish to fry.

I do applaud Gupta for being willing to publicly change his mind. We need more of that, you hardly ever see people have their political beliefs swayed to that degree.
 
2014-03-05 08:39:33 PM

kling_klang_bed: It is not easy to apologize and take your lumps, but this was never about me.

Kinda ironic words when considering that much of the medical marijuana is for cancer patients!


The government grown one, but I have been to weed stores in Cali, and I saw very few cancer patients.  A lot of old, young hippies and stoners.

I have no problem with weed as I do partake, but most of use it for the "medicinal" purpose of winding down and getting our heads right after work.
 
2014-03-05 08:40:29 PM
Frankly, I applaud Dr. Gupta for allowing his mind to be open enough to be changed by facts and his own research.  Given his position, this takes some courage on his part.
 
2014-03-05 08:48:40 PM
His new name shall be: Stuff A.J. Hooka
 
2014-03-05 08:50:17 PM

dumbobruni: Talk about leaving the reservation...

/aisle seat please


They probably threw him out of the Country Club
 
2014-03-05 08:56:51 PM

Occam's Disposable Razor: gja: I like the doc. Too bad for him he is young, and his assholes 'peers' will likely punish him for speaking his mind and daring to buck the system.

Wind is blowing the right direction. I'm a resident at a large teaching hospital (roughly 1000 other young doctors here), and the consensus even in a deep red Southern state seems to be that no one cares. The most popular medical opinion I've come across is basically, "Marijuana itself is not harmful, but all forms of smoking are horrible for you." A few remain staunchly against it, a few think it could be useful. I'm in the pro legalization camp, but am not convinced we'll get any wonder drugs out of it. If we do, that'd be great. If not, still should be legal, who cares? Even most of the older docs seem to be on board. It's just not the bogeyman it once was, there's bigger fish to fry.

I do applaud Gupta for being willing to publicly change his mind. We need more of that, you hardly ever see people have their political beliefs swayed to that degree.


As an eye doc, I remember on my externship asking a teenager the usual social questions during the history. "Do you drink, do you smoke, etc?" He said that he smoked weed. His mom nearly jumped out of her chair, but before she could he said "oh mom, you know! I was with XXXX the other night and we were smoking up..."  I cut him off right there and said "SHUT UP. You are only making your drive home worse. I only need to know for documentation and health purposes. I don't care whether you do or not." I felt bad for the mom, since I'm sure she felt she was going to get judged as a bad parent for her presumably unspoken knowledge that her kid was smoking dope.
 
2014-03-05 09:01:48 PM
I lived down the hall from Sanjay at Michigan - dude pulled top-shelf pussy.

/East Quad represent!
 
2014-03-05 09:04:12 PM

dr_blasto: Smeggy Smurf: Whatever it takes to make my weed stock go up

If you needed more stock, wouldn't it just be easier to go buy some? Preferably before you run out, of course.


I don't smoke the stuff.  I have asthma, smoke is not an option.  Plus I live where pot is considered as heinous as raping dead babies with a Book of Mormon.  I just want to make money off of it like a good capitalist pig
 
2014-03-05 09:04:41 PM

theflatline: kling_klang_bed: It is not easy to apologize and take your lumps, but this was never about me.

Kinda ironic words when considering that much of the medical marijuana is for cancer patients!

The government grown one, but I have been to weed stores in Cali, and I saw very few cancer patients.  A lot of old, young hippies and stoners.

I have no problem with weed as I do partake, but most of use it for the "medicinal" purpose of winding down and getting our heads right after work.


I'm glad marijuana is being legalized, because I'm tired of the ridiculous arguments about all the "normal uses" for weed. All the High Times talk about how hemp could save the world with all its million uses.  It's as if alcohol were illegal and people kept arguing about how wine is good for your heart, how it kills pain, etc. We live in (presumably) a free society. What is wrong with admitting that some of us like taking a drug to feel good? I mean, coffee, tea, soda, and booze are all legal.
 
2014-03-05 09:09:52 PM

Fano: What is wrong with admitting that some of us like taking a drug to feel good? I mean, coffee, tea, soda, and booze are all legal.


Absolutely. I have a great deal more respect for the people who use that argument for legalization. I like to drink, but my rum is not going to power a green vehicle or anything.

Also, you're an ophthalmologist? I think that makes 3 (including myself) I've seen on Fark.
 
2014-03-05 09:19:23 PM
What's wrong with getting high?
 
2014-03-05 09:37:46 PM

Smeggy Smurf: dr_blasto: Smeggy Smurf: Whatever it takes to make my weed stock go up

If you needed more stock, wouldn't it just be easier to go buy some? Preferably before you run out, of course.

I don't smoke the stuff.  I have asthma, smoke is not an option.  Plus I live where pot is considered as heinous as raping dead babies with a Book of Mormon.  I just want to make money off of it like a good capitalist pig


Smeggy, I've had you favorited for a while and am thinking of getting into some of these stocks soon (I made a bunch of money off of them last year and sold too soon). Which ones do you like?

/made money off of cbis and rfmk
// was thinking of getting in to grnh
 
2014-03-05 09:39:56 PM
4 out of 5 doctors recommend White Widow to their patients.
 
2014-03-05 09:47:22 PM

Smeggy Smurf: I don't smoke the stuff.  I have asthma, smoke is not an option.


Oddly enough.

Can Cannabis Help Asthma Patients?
 
gja [TotalFark]
2014-03-05 09:50:09 PM

Smeggy Smurf: dr_blasto: Smeggy Smurf: Whatever it takes to make my weed stock go up

If you needed more stock, wouldn't it just be easier to go buy some? Preferably before you run out, of course.

I don't smoke the stuff.  I have asthma, smoke is not an option.  Plus I live where pot is considered as heinous as raping dead babies with a Book of Mormon.  I just want to make money off of it like a good capitalist pig


Wowee! I need another Irish coffee to kill off that visual.....
 
2014-03-05 09:50:59 PM

Occam's Disposable Razor:  I'm a resident at a large teaching hospital


Check out Mr Resident FreeTime! posting on Fark without a care in the world.

/wife has a year and a half left
//then she wants a damn fellowship >_>
 
2014-03-05 09:55:29 PM

fusillade762: Smeggy Smurf: I don't smoke the stuff.  I have asthma, smoke is not an option.

Oddly enough.

Can Cannabis Help Asthma Patients?


A buddy of mine who now smokes almost every day swears he used to have asthma and since smoking doesn't have any attacks anymore.
 
2014-03-05 10:02:54 PM

beer4breakfast: fusillade762: Smeggy Smurf: I don't smoke the stuff.  I have asthma, smoke is not an option.

Oddly enough.

Can Cannabis Help Asthma Patients?

A buddy of mine who now smokes almost every day swears he used to have asthma and since smoking doesn't have any attacks anymore.


You don't even have to "smoke" anymore. Buy a vaporizer. Better living through modern technology! Pretty soon we'll be aggregating news from around the world on a single website..
 
2014-03-05 10:02:54 PM
As this moves forward, I'd be curious to see if there is research (maybe out of Scandinavia?) on actual health effects - what are MJ smokers drawing into their lungs? What are actual effects on the brain? Do Scandinavian countries have a better, faster way of evaluating impairment from MJ?

I heard something on NPR this week about developmental effects, but I don't want a "for the children" campaign to gain a foothold, just to set us back on a rational policy path.

I don't use MJ myself, but I work in an industry that is required to do drug testing. We are going to need good data on the "how stoned is stoned" questions.
 
2014-03-05 10:09:22 PM

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2014-03-05 10:11:40 PM
Saw the special on CNN.  Unfortunately, he let the `oh! It's so much stronger now!' slide right on by.  One would think he'd at least ask if this meant users cosume less to achieve the same effect (titrate the farking dose, huh?).

Trish Regan, on Bloomberg's Street Smart, had some drug warrior on, for a little over three minutes, yesterday.  Not surprisingly, when he wasn't flat out wrong, he was confused.  This was owing to Regan's talking right over him and calling him a liar.  She could have chastised the toad more articulately, but she looked good doing what she did.
 
2014-03-05 10:17:15 PM

Smeggy Smurf: dr_blasto: Smeggy Smurf:

  Plus I live where pot is considered as heinous as raping dead babies with a Book of Mormon.


Oh the crazy hijinks of kids these days....
 
2014-03-05 10:19:39 PM
Guy is second only to Dr. Oz for his bullshiat medicine.

I didn't RTFA, because of his name.  Medicinal marijuana is a hot topic, but Gupta is just an asshole.
 
gja [TotalFark]
2014-03-05 10:20:30 PM

Akuinnen: Occam's Disposable Razor:  I'm a resident at a large teaching hospital

Check out Mr Resident FreeTime! posting on Fark without a care in the world.

/wife has a year and a half left
//then she wants a damn fellowship >_>


Oh well laaaaaah-dee-dah. Pardon us poor pissants.

/i keed
 
2014-03-05 10:54:07 PM
Not every doctor recommends cannabis, but it's a recognized medication. So it doesn't meet the legal definition of a Schedule I controlled substance. So the DEA should reschedule it. (In fact, they're legally required to do so.) The President could direct them to do that.

I understand that he won't, and they won't, because they're all afraid of the bad press they'd get. But am I right about the law?
 
2014-03-05 10:55:19 PM
Dr Guptah performing surgery on a haitian child onboard USS CARL VINSON during the haiti earthquake relief efforts

northshorejournal.org
 
2014-03-05 10:56:56 PM

Unobtanium: As this moves forward, I'd be curious to see if there is research (maybe out of Scandinavia?) on actual health effects - what are MJ smokers drawing into their lungs? What are actual effects on the brain? Do Scandinavian countries have a better, faster way of evaluating impairment from MJ?

I heard something on NPR this week about developmental effects, but I don't want a "for the children" campaign to gain a foothold, just to set us back on a rational policy path.

I don't use MJ myself, but I work in an industry that is required to do drug testing. We are going to need good data on the "how stoned is stoned" questions.


We have had 70 years to get answers to these questions, but for most of that time, the USA did everything in it's power to stop outright any possible research that might show Cannabis in a positive light, because that failed to suit their desired narrative.

Now, thanks to the power of the Internet, the truth about Cannabis is getting to the regular people and the Pants-Wetters are losing control of the narrative.  Of course, since their real interest is in the preservation of their phony-baloney jobs, they have to double down, triple down on the Lies.  Heck, here in CO, headline in paper is that the PoPo's want MORE MONEY FOR POT ENFORCEMENT.  WTF?  What have they been wasting all that money on for the last 70 years and now that it's legal they want MORE?  Yea, that's right, it costs more to enforce a legal product, apparently, than to try and enforce prohibition.

It really showcases the contempt with which the police hold us.  They must think we are morons.  I admit they have much upon which to base that, but still.
 
2014-03-05 11:02:01 PM

MylesHeartVodak: Guy is second only to Dr. Oz for his bullshiat medicine.

I didn't RTFA, because of his name.  Medicinal marijuana is a hot topic, but Gupta is just an asshole.


He may or may not be an asshole, but he deserves full credit for this article and attempt to make up for his previous piece.
 
2014-03-05 11:12:24 PM
I didn't see it till the end...
So did he save the cheerleader?
 
2014-03-05 11:23:41 PM

theflatline: I am tired of hearing white people say "I just vaped some triple purple indica mixed with BC hydro that my boy sells for 120 an 1/8." Weed snobs are the worst.


You must find wine-tasting to be really exhausting.
 
2014-03-05 11:45:52 PM

knobmaker: theflatline: I am tired of hearing white people say "I just vaped some triple purple indica mixed with BC hydro that my boy sells for 120 an 1/8." Weed snobs are the worst.

You must find wine-tasting to be really exhausting.


I can tolerate wine tasting.  The majority of people into wine have at least done the research.

Weed snobs usually have no idea where their pot came from, only from what their dealer tells them, and then they take his world as gold and feel the need to brag about how much they spent on it.

I recently had to go to a young coworkers birthday party and it was nothing but weed snobs from age 20-30 acting like they were the only people who had ever sparked a J.

This one jackass decided that he was going to share an 8 ball he had gotten with me and a couple of party guests.  I declined politely, saying that while thanks for the offer, I was not a big fan of the blow.

He proceeded to tell me and all those present that this particular bag of coke was a specialty that was harvested in one place high up in the mountains of Colombia, that it was from a special vine, and that his guy told him it was only available certain times of the year, if you could get your hands on it.  That the 8 ball cost him 250 bucks.

I declined again, and he proceeded to call me out, chicken, old man, etc...  That I had no idea about good drugs when I saw them.

So the old man reached into his wallet and pulled out his Colombian citizen ship card showed it to him and explained that in Colombia there was no "special vine" high up in the Andes, and from the looks of it it had been stepped on more times than I could count.  I also told him that I could get the same thing for 12 bucks in Colombia, and for about 140 in the US.

My point is if you want to get high.  Get high.  Do not talk ceaselessly about it or what you are getting high on.

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2014-03-05 11:57:23 PM

Captain Horatio Mindblower: Not every doctor recommends cannabis, but it's a recognized medication. So it doesn't meet the legal definition of a Schedule I controlled substance. So the DEA should reschedule it. (In fact, they're legally required to do so.) The President could direct them to do that.

I understand that he won't, and they won't, because they're all afraid of the bad press they'd get. But am I right about the law?


Anyone can petition for a rescheduling of any scheduled drug.  However, if you aren't big pharm, forget it.  One Medical Marijuana Org. had their petition for rescheduling sat on for 9 years before receiving a formal rejection letter.

The manufacturers of Marinol (Dronabinol) AKA Synthetic Delta 9 THC,  got their approval for Schedule II to III with little fanfare, or time.  Only reason this was approved was owing to AIDS.

Depending on the amount of political arm twisting from the top, FDA would probably want to repeat all of the research, first conducted in the `70's after the Feds initiated their `grow' at the University of Mississippi.  They threw money at trying to identify one of the 300+ unique `activities' identified, that would injure/maim/kill, that didn't happen and, since that time, independent researchers have a very hard time securing permission to use cannabis at all and, what little Federal money is allocated is dumped into quixotic efforts to track down the `killer' that they can hang something other than propaganda on.  I'm sure the DEA/NIDA would go completely ballistic in the renewed search for man teats and shrunken testicles (speaking of which - in `73, U. Of Kansas performed research on male rats and sexual response - mounting behaviors - what they found was that the effect was biphasic, i.e., very small doses increased mounting behaviors, larger doses decreased same.  So, DEA? `hey, boys, it will kill your sex drive!' - the low dose response was penciled out of the DARE presentations // female rats exhibited good response at all doses - different study, FYI).  The report is in the journal Science (you can find it...).

For those who might be interested in the Big Pharma Delta 9 Marinol (one can actually hit a lethal dose with this shiat), you might consider getting a script for the stuff if you want to drive:

From the product insert:  "WARNINGS
Patients receiving treatment with MARINOL® Capsules should be specifically warned not to drive,
operate machinery, or engage in any hazardous activity until it is established that they are able to
tolerate the drug and to perform such tasks safely".   http://www.fda.gov/ohrms/dockets/dockets/05n0479/05N-0479-emc0004-04. p df
(pretty much say the same thing about Benadryl, yes?)

And CO & WA have 5 nanogram DUI/DWI cut-offs???
 
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