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(Townhall)   While Wendy Davis won the Democratic nomination for Texas governor she did get crushed by her primary challenger in many areas. Fark: he raised $0 in his campaign   (townhall.com ) divider line
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2014-03-05 06:48:29 PM  
6 votes:
So South Texans voted for a pro-life Democrat rather than Wendy Davis? And this is supposed to be Bad News...for Wendy?

Townhall is CONCERNED.
2014-03-05 06:57:14 PM  
5 votes:
See conservatives, when you act like this about a new Democratic candidate, we know you're scared.

It's like how you think Democrats act about Sarah Palin, but real.
2014-03-05 06:50:50 PM  
5 votes:
Then I guess Republicans don't have anything to worry about and can stop obsessing over her.
2014-03-05 06:54:44 PM  
4 votes:
The answer, of course, is for these old, white, southern bigots need to die off.  Shouldn't take long.
2014-03-05 06:48:21 PM  
4 votes:
More kkkrap form Kkklownhall, brought to you by Farkkk.com.
2014-03-05 07:11:08 PM  
3 votes:
According to a new study by Latino Decisions, 2.9 million Hispanics are eligible to vote in Texas but don't. Nearly two-thirds of eligible Hispanics didn't cast ballots in 2012.


Get that vote out and you'll turn Texas blue.
2014-03-06 07:55:17 AM  
2 votes:

Alien Robot: jso2897: You probably shouldn't post here, if that's all you get out of all the discussions that have taken place here.

What I "get out of all the discussions" here is that in every thread with criticism of the actions of the President there is always someone who shows up to make the claim that such criticism is based on racism and racism alone. It's like JournoList is still putting out talking points.

/"Republicans are 'afraid' of Wendy Davis" seems to be the current talking point about her.


"Someone" always shows up to opine that the people he doesn't like are lizard people - doesn't mean it's the only thing anybody here thinks.
If you or I want to criticize the Prez, it's cool - but people may disagree with us. People disagree with most of the things I post - i don't whine about it. I'm an adult.
The "you can't criticize Obama without being called racist" whine is just that - a whine. It's a passive- agressive "first strike", intended to establish that the discussion is unfair to you without your having bothered to advance any actual ideas.
People here will disagree with you, juat like they do me, and they will question your motives - just like they do mine.
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2014-03-06 06:48:56 AM  
2 votes:

Alien Robot: IMDWalrus: I don't mind - it makes it easier to fill the ignore list with the people you know are never going to contribute a useful opinion.

I don't even have an "ignore list" and assume people who do are like little kids sitting in the corner with their fingers in their ears going "la, la, la, I don't hear you." Why would you even come to a discussion site and make an ignore list? To get your opinions validated from the point of yiew that you already have? I come here to understand opposing points of view along with reading those I agree with. Isn't that the point of dialogue?


It's one thing to have people who disagree with you.  We disagreed with a lot of things that Gary had to say.  I still disagree with a number of things that the C-gentleman has to say.  Same with some guy named Nabb, and then there's the dancin' fool.  I, like many posters, have thought they were completely bass-ackwards dead wrong on any number of issues, but you can have a discussion with them.

They're not why there's an ignore button.  It's for the alts, the shills, and the threadshiatters.  The kilos of cheddar, the witless protection programs, the myriad of black cat logins, and the dude with a GED in Law.  They don't contribute anything to the discussion.  They're there to troll and agitate, and some of them are likely encouraged by the staff to stir the pot for clicks.  You get a ton of them every two years, because nothing brings out the clownshoes like an election.
2014-03-05 11:00:45 PM  
2 votes:

DrBenway: Alien Robot: Triple Oak: I get what you're going for, but disagreeing with a black guy =/= racism. Ever.

Then you don't read many Fark political threads, because it seems if you disagree with Obama it's only due to racism. There's no other explanation. For He is perfection incarnate.

Falling back on the classics tonight, are we?


I don't mind - it makes it easier to fill the ignore list with the people you know are never going to contribute a useful opinion.
2014-03-05 08:12:34 PM  
2 votes:
Those demographics are rapidly changing. Age differences between Hispanic and white Texans help explain the growth of Texas' Hispanic population. More than half of Hispanic Texans are under age 30, while 35 percent of white Texans are under age 30, the report said.
Start talking about immigration and watch the demo really slide left.
2014-03-05 07:59:44 PM  
2 votes:

jedihirsch: Oh and if you complain about any education policies in Texas like Creationism and other stuff you're now a racist because this guy is the Education Commissioner in Texas


I get what you're going for, but disagreeing with a black guy =/= racism. Ever. Instead, regardless of skin color, laugh at the idea of an Education Commissioner in Texas, especially one that endorses creationism.
2014-03-05 07:52:57 PM  
2 votes:

Fart_Machine: jedihirsch: Because GWB winning nearly half of Latino's mean a win for dems.

Bush actively solicited Latino votes which is what got him the win.  Cruz?  Not so much.


Also the GOP has really cranked up the brown hate since 2000.
2014-03-05 07:49:54 PM  
2 votes:
The polls will be close, and it will probably go to Abbott. BUT! It'll be closer than everyone thinks, and that's the start of progress. I'm not expecting Davis to win, just like I'm not expecting the House to flip all the way back to D control, but it'll be fun to watch. And I'm not saying a Davis loss and a tightening of the cap in the house would be considered "wins" by any means, but it'll be a very obvious step towards the kind of progress we need in this country.

D's have gone to the center and R's have gone batshiat insane. The center would be way better.
2014-03-05 07:44:44 PM  
2 votes:
What happened to the Texas that elected Ann Richards?
2014-03-05 07:25:10 PM  
2 votes:
The two counties explicitly mentioned (Hidalgo, Wallacy) are so red they're basically  infrared.  Losing by a large margin in an area where most of the Democratic primary voters are  bored Republicans listing (D) because their own races are uncontested isn't exactly an indication of low party popularity.

AeAe: Texas elected Perry, Cruz, Cornyn, Stockman, Gohmert .. That's a who's who of right wing extremism and idiocy.

Texas will not elect Davis.


Well, gubernatorial elections are essentially by direct vote with a few perturbations.  By actual population the state's almost exactly 50/50 on the R/D mix... that makes us really red by national standards, but since the gerrymandering doesn't apply as well as it usually does in this election, campaigning well and actually getting the (D) voters to the polls even when their other votes are meaningless could actually pretty easily net you the state.

Albeit... Davis isn't actually very charismatic and not as politically savvy as she could be, so I doubt she'll pull it off too.  But it's not really a matter of the demographics screwing her, she just doesn't have the skill or force of personality to overcome incumbent advantage.  She's banking on the GOP to sink itself... which it will, no doubt, but not to the tun of the 7 or 8 points that being the incumbent executive tends to give.

// Sorry for interrupting the partisan whatever you were doing with actual information, you may resume now.
2014-03-05 07:23:52 PM  
2 votes:

Captain Dan: Let me get this straight.  Your party's plan to excite and mobilize millions of Latino voters is to nominate a lady who's famous only for supporting abortion?


She's also famously not Republican, which helps a great deal in getting Hispanic people to vote for her.  The other party has a real problem with minority and youth and female turnout.
2014-03-05 07:23:00 PM  
2 votes:
Texas is going Blue and there is nothing that can really be done about that.
2014-03-05 07:13:19 PM  
2 votes:

Captain Dan: The area mentioned in the article, the southern Rio Grande Valley, is over 90% Hispanic.


Yeah, but in fairness, the only people that can meet the voter ID laws down there are white.
2014-03-05 06:59:57 PM  
2 votes:
That's it. Shut it down. She's doomed. It's right there in the article. She lost more than two dozen counties, and in a state with two hundred and fifty four counties, there's no way she can win a state-wide election this way. I mean, it's not like voters in the Rio Grande Valley are going to be more likely to support the Democratic candidate over the Republican. Not in that rather blue area of the state. I mean, voters there supported a pro-life primary candidate and there's no chance that the largely Hispanic population cares about any issue besides abortion.
2014-03-05 06:56:16 PM  
2 votes:
It's hilarious how terrified the derpers are of this woman.
2014-03-05 06:53:14 PM  
2 votes:
You're not fooling anyone with that new logo TownHall.
2014-03-05 06:52:44 PM  
2 votes:
Why are they so afraid of a strong liberal woman?
2014-03-05 06:48:46 PM  
2 votes:
Would those happen to be red precincts?
2014-03-06 08:04:21 AM  
1 vote:

Alien Robot: jso2897: You probably shouldn't post here, if that's all you get out of all the discussions that have taken place here.

What I "get out of all the discussions" here is that in every thread with criticism of the actions of the President there is always someone who shows up to make the claim that such criticism is based on racism and racism alone. It's like JournoList is still putting out talking points.

/"Republicans are 'afraid' of Wendy Davis" seems to be the current talking point about her.


Well, I think they see her as a harbinger of the inevitable. Whether she actually wins the election doesn't mean much - the handwriting is on the wall, and the future of the Texas GOP is not looking rosy - Davis is just a minor player in a larger drama - the huge demographic shifts that are coming to America. I would say that they ignore that at their own peril - but it actually doesn't make much difference what they do in the long run - if they want to survive, they'll have to adapt - beating back the Wendy avis's of the world is a short term solution.
2014-03-06 07:36:00 AM  
1 vote:
Reminds me of how much concern trolling there was over Obama's 2012 primary results in the South and Appalachia.

After all: if Obama only got a slim majority of the primary votes in West Virginia, how can he hope to win reelection?
2014-03-06 06:57:32 AM  
1 vote:

Alien Robot:
Republicans are afraid.


Yes, they are... of many things.
2014-03-06 04:41:36 AM  
1 vote:

Alien Robot: Triple Oak: I get what you're going for, but disagreeing with a black guy =/= racism. Ever.

Then you don't read many Fark political threads, because it seems if you disagree with Obama it's only due to racism. There's no other explanation. For He is perfection incarnate.


Yeah, you're right. You probably shouldn't post here, if that's all you get out of all the discussions that have taken place here.
Come back when you're 18.
2014-03-06 04:23:16 AM  
1 vote:

Alien Robot: DrBenway: Falling back on the classics tonight, are we?

Race is never used as an excuse for the President is it?


Never used and always used? Really kicking the stuffing out of those straw men tonight!
2014-03-05 11:39:54 PM  
1 vote:

BSABSVR: Ha ha!  You won slightly less convincingly than some people hoped!  I bet it totally sucks to be you!


Interestingly, that was the actual rallying cry from one of the crazy-ass teabagger senator candidates in 2010.  "Well she obviously doesn't deserve your vote.  She's not even beating me by double-digits!  How pitiful is that?"
2014-03-05 10:41:04 PM  
1 vote:

Alien Robot: Triple Oak: I get what you're going for, but disagreeing with a black guy =/= racism. Ever.

Then you don't read many Fark political threads, because it seems if you disagree with Obama it's only due to racism. There's no other explanation. For He is perfection incarnate.


Falling back on the classics tonight, are we?
2014-03-05 09:24:09 PM  
1 vote:

jedihirsch: Triple Oak: jedihirsch: Oh and if you complain about any education policies in Texas like Creationism and other stuff you're now a racist because this guy is the Education Commissioner in Texas

I get what you're going for, but disagreeing with a black guy =/= racism. Ever. Instead, regardless of skin color, laugh at the idea of an Education Commissioner in Texas, especially one that endorses creationism.

He didn't endorse it, he just said that there should be a debate if it should be in the schools and be taught side by side with evolution. Regardless, you gotta agree he wears the bow tie well.


Uh the whole "teach the controversy" is just as embarrassing.
2014-03-05 09:00:44 PM  
1 vote:

super_grass: So in other words, the chances of her winning is pretty damn thin.


I dunno. I think drought conditions and the end results of the fire season in the Fall are going to effect the election.
2014-03-05 08:53:51 PM  
1 vote:
This fall, reports showed Davis had raised "less than $700 from the four largest cities in the Rio Grande Valley." Even more amusingly, Davis's opponent claimed $0 in contributions on his campaign finance report in January. Yet, he still came out on top.
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It's surprising that a person who raised $700 more than their opponent ended up losing to that opponent?

/No one down there is going to vote democrat in the actual election anyway
2014-03-05 08:43:37 PM  
1 vote:
Willacy County doesn't seem red. Democrats got 2400 votes vs 130 for the GOP candidates.

On the other hand, when they're trying t make a big deal that Davis "only" got 79% of the Dem vote statewide, and they found a county where she lost 61%-39%, but where there were only ~2500 voters in the whole county, I think they're reaching a bit.

I still wouldn't rate her chances in November very high. Overall, the Democrat nominees got about 1/3 of the vote.
2014-03-05 08:30:18 PM  
1 vote:
Jim_Callahan:  ... But it's not really a matter of the demographics screwing her, she just doesn't have the skill or force of personality to overcome incumbent advantage....

There is no incumbent. Perry isn't running again. This is the first open election since 1990.

If I remember correctly, in the 2012 presidential election, it was a 53/47%* split (R/D ) with Houston, Austin, and DFW areas pulling in the most Dems. It really is 'urban' vs. 'rural' votes for Dems and Repubs here. Valley vote might change that if people registered, but not expecting the numbers to turn out. What's surprising is that a lot of hispanic voters from the south Texas area affiliate as R. And interestingly, or disturbingly, they often state abortion stance as one of the primary reasons. (no citation, just what I'm told from those on the active political front in Texas. Yes, people on the front lines of this years race!)
2014-03-05 07:51:42 PM  
1 vote:

jedihirsch: Because GWB winning nearly half of Latino's mean a win for dems.


Bush actively solicited Latino votes which is what got him the win.  Cruz?  Not so much.
2014-03-05 07:50:03 PM  
1 vote:

max_pooper: Karac: Doesn't Texas have closed primaries?  So won't most of the people who voted against Davis yesterday also vote for her in November?

Nope, any registered voter can walk into the polling location and vote in any primary they choose.


I've never understood primaries. The closed ones are strictly intra-party. To me they're private affairs and should not be publicly funded.

The open ones are confusing. You can only vote in one party's primary. But the way I see it, it's (at least) two different elections. The candidates aren't running for the same office. They're running for nominations in different parties (again all of this should be funded by the farking parties).

Unless you want your "open primary" to be a true primary where the top two vote getters go on to a run-off to decide who gets into office, then each voter should get to vote in each primary since they're really separate races.
2014-03-05 07:43:22 PM  
1 vote:

Soup4Bonnie: Captain Dan: Let me get this straight.  Your party's plan to excite and mobilize millions of Latino voters is to nominate a lady who's famous only for supporting abortion?

She's also famously not Republican, which helps a great deal in getting Hispanic people to vote for her.  The other party has a real problem with minority and youth and female turnout.


Because GWB winning nearly half of Latino's mean a win for dems. The GOP does well with Latino's in Texas (they even elect them like Cruz), the former head of the Texas Sheriff's Association was a Latino Republican (who retired a few years back after 18 years as Sheriff in his county)
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Oh and if you complain about any education policies in Texas like Creationism and other stuff you're now a racist because this guy is the Education Commissioner in Texas
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And in the last Houston mayoral elections, the GOP endorsed a gay woman in the runoff election. And the head of the largest Tea Party group in the state is half black and half arab. The GOP speaker in the state is Jewish, and there are other things about the Texas GOP that I find interesting and weird

Texas GOP: The most confusing GOP in the country, don't try to understand it

/New Yorker (a State where Wendy Davis would be a blue-dog)
2014-03-05 07:36:33 PM  
1 vote:

Karac: Doesn't Texas have closed primaries?  So won't most of the people who voted against Davis yesterday also vote for her in November?


Nope, any registered voter can walk into the polling location and vote in any primary they choose.
2014-03-05 07:29:44 PM  
1 vote:
Doesn't Texas have closed primaries?  So won't most of the people who voted against Davis yesterday also vote for her in November?
2014-03-05 07:17:45 PM  
1 vote:

Captain Dan: NobleHam: So, some Hispanics voted for the Hispanic guy instead of the white lady? I'm shocked. Surely this means Wendy Davis is a doomed joke of a candidate.

Actually, it probably does.  If Hispanic voters, a majority of all Democrats in Texas, are so turned off by Wendy Davis's abortion activism that they'd rather file a protest vote for a no-hoper, it's less likely that they'll turn out for her in the general election.

Wendy Davis will be defeated by double digits.  I'll place a friendly wager ($0.00, but bragging rights) with anyone who thinks otherwise.


She's going to get destroyed.  And I support Wendy.

Texas elected Perry, Cruz, Cornyn, Stockman, Gohmert .. That's a who's who of right wing extremism and idiocy.

Texas will not elect Davis.
2014-03-05 07:17:24 PM  
1 vote:

SilentStrider: Republicans, even.


Eepublicans sounded more scared.
2014-03-05 07:17:11 PM  
1 vote:

Captain Dan: NobleHam: So, some Hispanics voted for the Hispanic guy instead of the white lady? I'm shocked. Surely this means Wendy Davis is a doomed joke of a candidate.

Actually, it probably does.  If Hispanic voters, a majority of all Democrats in Texas, are so turned off by Wendy Davis's abortion activism that they'd rather file a protest vote for a no-hoper, it's less likely that they'll turn out for her in the general election.

Wendy Davis will be defeated by double digits.  I'll place a friendly wager ($0.00, but bragging rights) with anyone who thinks otherwise.


This makes sense as things stand right now, but there's plenty of time between now and November for Abbott (or the Nuge) to piss them off enough to come and vote against him.
2014-03-05 07:02:18 PM  
1 vote:

meat0918: AeAe: The answer, of course, is for these old, white, southern bigots need to die off.  Shouldn't take long.

Yeah, but Obamacare's Medicaid/Medicare expansion could add years to their lives.

Thanks a lot, Obama!


True .. BUT! .. you know Texas and Florida rejected Medicaid expansion right?
2014-03-05 07:02:14 PM  
1 vote:

AeAe: The answer, of course, is for these old, white, southern bigots need to die off.  Shouldn't take long.


The area mentioned in the article, the southern Rio Grande Valley, is over 90% Hispanic.
2014-03-05 07:01:15 PM  
1 vote:

Captain Dan: jso2897: More kkkrap form Kkklownhall, brought to you by Farkkk.com.

Was that ironic?  Do people still do the "k" thing seriously?


How's that?  That most racists and bigots are Republican?  You know that's true.
2014-03-05 07:00:26 PM  
1 vote:

AeAe: The answer, of course, is for these old, white, southern bigots need to die off.  Shouldn't take long.


Yeah, but Obamacare's Medicaid/Medicare expansion could add years to their lives.

Thanks a lot, Obama!
2014-03-05 06:54:20 PM  
1 vote:
What percentage of Texas' voting Democratic population is in the Rio Grande Valley again?
2014-03-05 06:53:48 PM  
1 vote:
Could that article have been any shorter?

Man, these Clown Hall farkers are scared shiatless of Davis.
2014-03-05 06:53:36 PM  
1 vote:
Yeah, but if those were truly Democrats voting in the Democratic primary, will they vote for Republican Greg Abbott over Wendy this fall?
2014-03-05 06:49:47 PM  
1 vote:

LordJiro: Townhall is CONCERNED.

 
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