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(Townhall)   While Wendy Davis won the Democratic nomination for Texas governor she did get crushed by her primary challenger in many areas. Fark: he raised $0 in his campaign   (townhall.com) divider line 152
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2014-03-06 02:03:29 AM

Captain Dan: I'll place a friendly wager ($0.00, but bragging rights)


I never go in unless the stakes are high, my friend. Triple that figure and you've got yourself a bet!
 
2014-03-06 02:03:39 AM

DrBenway: Falling back on the classics tonight, are we?


Race is never used as an excuse for the President is it?
 
2014-03-06 02:14:46 AM

IMDWalrus: I don't mind - it makes it easier to fill the ignore list with the people you know are never going to contribute a useful opinion.


I don't even have an "ignore list" and assume people who do are like little kids sitting in the corner with their fingers in their ears going "la, la, la, I don't hear you." Why would you even come to a discussion site and make an ignore list? To get your opinions validated from the point of yiew that you already have? I come here to understand opposing points of view along with reading those I agree with. Isn't that the point of dialogue?
 
2014-03-06 02:31:35 AM

duke3522: Would those happen to be red precincts?


Only blue people voted.  Against Wendy.
 
2014-03-06 02:32:42 AM

Doktor_Zhivago: Why are they so afraid of a strong liberal woman?


Her weak bladder?
 
2014-03-06 03:18:42 AM
Turn Texas Blue. Ya, I'm not seeein' it.
 
2014-03-06 04:23:16 AM

Alien Robot: DrBenway: Falling back on the classics tonight, are we?

Race is never used as an excuse for the President is it?


Never used and always used? Really kicking the stuffing out of those straw men tonight!
 
2014-03-06 04:41:36 AM

Alien Robot: Triple Oak: I get what you're going for, but disagreeing with a black guy =/= racism. Ever.

Then you don't read many Fark political threads, because it seems if you disagree with Obama it's only due to racism. There's no other explanation. For He is perfection incarnate.


Yeah, you're right. You probably shouldn't post here, if that's all you get out of all the discussions that have taken place here.
Come back when you're 18.
 
2014-03-06 05:24:52 AM

jso2897: Alien Robot: Triple Oak: I get what you're going for, but disagreeing with a black guy =/= racism. Ever.

Then you don't read many Fark political threads, because it seems if you disagree with Obama it's only due to racism. There's no other explanation. For He is perfection incarnate.

Yeah, you're right. You probably shouldn't post here, if that's all you get out of all the discussions that have taken place here.
Come back when you're 18.


Is this a pot - kettle thing?
 
2014-03-06 06:11:42 AM

Captain Dan: NobleHam: So, some Hispanics voted for the Hispanic guy instead of the white lady? I'm shocked. Surely this means Wendy Davis is a doomed joke of a candidate.

Actually, it probably does.  If Hispanic voters, a majority of all Democrats in Texas, are so turned off by Wendy Davis's abortion activism that they'd rather file a protest vote for a no-hoper, it's less likely that they'll turn out for her in the general election.

Wendy Davis will be defeated by double digits.  I'll place a friendly wager ($0.00, but bragging rights) with anyone who thinks otherwise.


I'll take that bet.  Not on the outcome, but on the spread.  Hispanics don't generally vote in primaries, at least not the underclass that lives in the valley.  And primaries don't accurately reflect the general election.  Davis knew that she only had to get 50% and had to keep her powder dry for the general.  Now that the primary is over, it's a new race.
 
2014-03-06 06:19:08 AM

Alien Robot: DrBenway: Falling back on the classics tonight, are we?

Race is never used as an excuse for the President is it?


That's Fark Humortm.

It doesn't count.
 
2014-03-06 06:33:57 AM
Heh... Republicans are so desperate, they're crowing about a candidate winning a Democratic Primary by a small margin?
 
2014-03-06 06:48:56 AM

Alien Robot: IMDWalrus: I don't mind - it makes it easier to fill the ignore list with the people you know are never going to contribute a useful opinion.

I don't even have an "ignore list" and assume people who do are like little kids sitting in the corner with their fingers in their ears going "la, la, la, I don't hear you." Why would you even come to a discussion site and make an ignore list? To get your opinions validated from the point of yiew that you already have? I come here to understand opposing points of view along with reading those I agree with. Isn't that the point of dialogue?


It's one thing to have people who disagree with you.  We disagreed with a lot of things that Gary had to say.  I still disagree with a number of things that the C-gentleman has to say.  Same with some guy named Nabb, and then there's the dancin' fool.  I, like many posters, have thought they were completely bass-ackwards dead wrong on any number of issues, but you can have a discussion with them.

They're not why there's an ignore button.  It's for the alts, the shills, and the threadshiatters.  The kilos of cheddar, the witless protection programs, the myriad of black cat logins, and the dude with a GED in Law.  They don't contribute anything to the discussion.  They're there to troll and agitate, and some of them are likely encouraged by the staff to stir the pot for clicks.  You get a ton of them every two years, because nothing brings out the clownshoes like an election.
 
2014-03-06 06:52:12 AM

jso2897: You probably shouldn't post here, if that's all you get out of all the discussions that have taken place here.


What I "get out of all the discussions" here is that in every thread with criticism of the actions of the President there is always someone who shows up to make the claim that such criticism is based on racism and racism alone. It's like JournoList is still putting out talking points.

/"Republicans are 'afraid' of Wendy Davis" seems to be the current talking point about her.
 
2014-03-06 06:55:41 AM

UNC_Samurai: They're not why there's an ignore button. It's for the alts, the shills, and the threadshiatters. The kilos of cheddar, the witless protection programs, the myriad of black cat logins, and the dude with a GED in Law. They don't contribute anything to the discussion. They're there to troll and agitate, and some of them are likely encouraged by the staff to stir the pot for clicks. You get a ton of them every two years, because nothing brings out the clownshoes like an election.


I just scroll past them.
 
2014-03-06 06:57:32 AM

Alien Robot:
Republicans are afraid.


Yes, they are... of many things.
 
2014-03-06 07:21:43 AM

keylock71: Alien Robot:
Republicans are afraid.

Yes, they are... of many things.


I can cite a story about Democrats being afraid of something for every one you can cite about Republicans being afraid of something. Just a few weeks ago they were afraid of a statue at Wellesley College thinking it might rape them or something. A statue.
 
2014-03-06 07:36:00 AM
Reminds me of how much concern trolling there was over Obama's 2012 primary results in the South and Appalachia.

After all: if Obama only got a slim majority of the primary votes in West Virginia, how can he hope to win reelection?
 
2014-03-06 07:42:13 AM

SilentStrider: She has got Eepublicans absolutely shiatting themselves in fear.


I think she would be more of a progressive ...

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/hot image
//in more ways than one
///if you know what I mean
////and I think you do
 
2014-03-06 07:55:17 AM

Alien Robot: jso2897: You probably shouldn't post here, if that's all you get out of all the discussions that have taken place here.

What I "get out of all the discussions" here is that in every thread with criticism of the actions of the President there is always someone who shows up to make the claim that such criticism is based on racism and racism alone. It's like JournoList is still putting out talking points.

/"Republicans are 'afraid' of Wendy Davis" seems to be the current talking point about her.


"Someone" always shows up to opine that the people he doesn't like are lizard people - doesn't mean it's the only thing anybody here thinks.
If you or I want to criticize the Prez, it's cool - but people may disagree with us. People disagree with most of the things I post - i don't whine about it. I'm an adult.
The "you can't criticize Obama without being called racist" whine is just that - a whine. It's a passive- agressive "first strike", intended to establish that the discussion is unfair to you without your having bothered to advance any actual ideas.
People here will disagree with you, juat like they do me, and they will question your motives - just like they do mine.
i18.photobucket.com
 
2014-03-06 07:57:15 AM

AeAe: The answer, of course, is for these old, white, southern bigots need to die off.  Shouldn't take long.


Quite unaware of the demographic in the Valley I see.
 
2014-03-06 08:04:21 AM

Alien Robot: jso2897: You probably shouldn't post here, if that's all you get out of all the discussions that have taken place here.

What I "get out of all the discussions" here is that in every thread with criticism of the actions of the President there is always someone who shows up to make the claim that such criticism is based on racism and racism alone. It's like JournoList is still putting out talking points.

/"Republicans are 'afraid' of Wendy Davis" seems to be the current talking point about her.


Well, I think they see her as a harbinger of the inevitable. Whether she actually wins the election doesn't mean much - the handwriting is on the wall, and the future of the Texas GOP is not looking rosy - Davis is just a minor player in a larger drama - the huge demographic shifts that are coming to America. I would say that they ignore that at their own peril - but it actually doesn't make much difference what they do in the long run - if they want to survive, they'll have to adapt - beating back the Wendy avis's of the world is a short term solution.
 
2014-03-06 08:14:25 AM

Alien Robot: I can cite a story about Democrats being afraid of something for every one you can cite about Republicans being afraid of something.


Knock yourself out, Champ. I'm not a Democrat.
 
2014-03-06 08:29:43 AM

Alien Robot: keylock71: Alien Robot:
Republicans are afraid.

Yes, they are... of many things.

I can cite a story about Democrats being afraid of something for every one you can cite about Republicans being afraid of something. Just a few weeks ago they were afraid of a statue at Wellesley College thinking it might rape them or something. A statue.


We have statue issues at Ole Miss too.
 
2014-03-06 08:34:58 AM

jso2897: Alien Robot: jso2897: You probably shouldn't post here, if that's all you get out of all the discussions that have taken place here.

What I "get out of all the discussions" here is that in every thread with criticism of the actions of the President there is always someone who shows up to make the claim that such criticism is based on racism and racism alone. It's like JournoList is still putting out talking points.

/"Republicans are 'afraid' of Wendy Davis" seems to be the current talking point about her.

"Someone" always shows up to opine that the people he doesn't like are lizard people - doesn't mean it's the only thing anybody here thinks.
If you or I want to criticize the Prez, it's cool - but people may disagree with us. People disagree with most of the things I post - i don't whine about it. I'm an adult.
The "you can't criticize Obama without being called racist" whine is just that - a whine. It's a passive- agressive "first strike", intended to establish that the discussion is unfair to you without your having bothered to advance any actual ideas.
People here will disagree with you, juat like they do me, and they will question your motives - just like they do mine.
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i885.photobucket.com
 
2014-03-06 08:37:21 AM
Wendy has a bright future, even after she gets crushed in the general.  She's the perfect "Fark You" appointee that Obama loves.
 
2014-03-06 09:14:26 AM
My neighbor's 8 year old says he likes the Wendy's commercials she filmed when she was younger and skinnier.

I told him she only eats at Wendy's and that is what happened.

A Texan would have believed me.
 
2014-03-06 09:14:58 AM

sprawl15: Lackofname: Augh, townhall changed their icon. I got duped into clicking.

"you changed your icon to townhall?"


Yeah! Say it backwards!
 
2014-03-06 09:26:07 AM

AeAe: She's going to get destroyed. And I support Wendy.

Texas elected Perry, Cruz, Cornyn, Stockman, Gohmert .. That's a who's who of right wing extremism and idiocy.

Texas will not elect Davis.


I'm hopeful that some crazy derp comes out of Abbott between now and November akin to Todd Akin, but alas, you are probably right.

Heck, Akin's remarks would probably give him a boost in Texas.
 
2014-03-06 09:35:03 AM
Looking at recent polling numbers, she does have a bit of an uphill battle to election day.
 
2014-03-06 10:19:46 AM
Wendy's opponent, Greg Abbott, is married to a Latina.
 
2014-03-06 10:20:05 AM

jso2897: Alien Robot: jso2897: You probably shouldn't post here, if that's all you get out of all the discussions that have taken place here.

What I "get out of all the discussions" here is that in every thread with criticism of the actions of the President there is always someone who shows up to make the claim that such criticism is based on racism and racism alone. It's like JournoList is still putting out talking points.

/"Republicans are 'afraid' of Wendy Davis" seems to be the current talking point about her.

Well, I think they see her as a harbinger of the inevitable. Whether she actually wins the election doesn't mean much - the handwriting is on the wall, and the future of the Texas GOP is not looking rosy - Davis is just a minor player in a larger drama - the huge demographic shifts that are coming to America. I would say that they ignore that at their own peril - but it actually doesn't make much difference what they do in the long run - if they want to survive, they'll have to adapt - beating back the Wendy avis's of the world is a short term solution.


Hmmm . . . like this?
 
2014-03-06 10:50:28 AM

Almost Everybody Poops: AeAe: She's going to get destroyed. And I support Wendy.

Texas elected Perry, Cruz, Cornyn, Stockman, Gohmert .. That's a who's who of right wing extremism and idiocy.

Texas will not elect Davis.

I'm hopeful that some crazy derp comes out of Abbott between now and November akin to Todd Akin, but alas, you are probably right.

Heck, Akin's remarks would probably give him a boost in Texas.


Perhaps things have changed since 1990 when Clayton Williams, the original GOP Rapey McRaperson, claimed that bad weather was like rape, you should just sit back and enjoy it. That statement blew his double digit lead and lead to Democrat Ann Richards winning the governorship.
 
2014-03-06 11:05:32 AM

super_grass: Triple Oak: jedihirsch: Oh and if you complain about any education policies in Texas like Creationism and other stuff you're now a racist because this guy is the Education Commissioner in Texas

I get what you're going for, but disagreeing with a black guy =/= racism. Ever. Instead, regardless of skin color, laugh at the idea of an Education Commissioner in Texas, especially one that endorses creationism.

WE GET IT, HE'S BLACK

your argument is now invalid


Actually, that's the exact argument. Race shouldn't matter when you're discussing a person, but some groups coughrepublicanscough seem to bring it up all the time. Or at least trying to be subtle when hinting at it.

Alien Robot: Triple Oak: I get what you're going for, but disagreeing with a black guy =/= racism. Ever.

Then you don't read many Fark political threads, because it seems if you disagree with Obama it's only due to racism. There's no other explanation. For He is perfection incarnate.


I don't even get what this is supposed to be. Because it's trying to be a joke and failing badly. I see lots of people disagree with Obama, but most of the time they stray away from race. Hell, sometimes I disagree with Obama (see: whoever's telling him the TPP is a good idea). A tremendous amount of the disagreements here tend to come from known trolls and clueless extremists, but that's another discussion.
 
2014-03-06 11:11:49 AM

Almost Everybody Poops: AeAe: She's going to get destroyed. And I support Wendy.

Texas elected Perry, Cruz, Cornyn, Stockman, Gohmert .. That's a who's who of right wing extremism and idiocy.

Texas will not elect Davis.

I'm hopeful that some crazy derp comes out of Abbott between now and November akin to Todd Akin, but alas, you are probably right.

Heck, Akin's remarks would probably give him a boost in Texas.


Never misunderestimate the ability of Republicans to fark things up and lose.  If she gets the liberal vote and a good share of the Conservative women's vote, she wins.
 
2014-03-06 11:25:09 AM

Captain Dan: NobleHam: So, some Hispanics voted for the Hispanic guy instead of the white lady? I'm shocked. Surely this means Wendy Davis is a doomed joke of a candidate.

Actually, it probably does.  If Hispanic voters, a majority of all Democrats in Texas, are so turned off by Wendy Davis's abortion activism that they'd rather file a protest vote for a no-hoper, it's less likely that they'll turn out for her in the general election.

Wendy Davis will be defeated by double digits.  I'll place a friendly wager ($0.00, but bragging rights) with anyone who thinks otherwise.


I see that particular lie is common clay gospel now.

She was an "activist" for keeping women's health clinics open despite Texas desperate and unconstitutional attempts to shut them down while lying and claiming it was about abortion.
 
2014-03-06 11:33:32 AM

TerminalEchoes: Doktor_Zhivago:

Why are they so afraid of a strong liberal woman?

I'd ask the same thing to liberals.


If you mean Hillary, she's nowhere near a liberal either.

They might have to dig up Bella Abzug.
 
2014-03-06 11:38:20 AM
Alien Robot:

Why would you even come to a discussion site and make an ignore list?

My Ignore list is comprised of people who've insulted me personally, such as telling me that my opinion means I'm a subhuman Nazi h8ter scumbag who should be whapped with 2x4s again.
 
2014-03-06 11:57:26 AM

Soup4Bonnie: Captain Dan: Let me get this straight.  Your party's plan to excite and mobilize millions of Latino voters is to nominate a lady who's famous only for supporting abortion?

She's also famously not Republican, which helps a great deal in getting Hispanic people to vote for her.  The other party has a real problem with minority and youth and female turnout.


Which is why they'll try to have special laws in place by then to make sure they can't vote.


/I'd love to see her win, I don't expect her to be able to do so, however.
 
2014-03-06 12:14:20 PM

Captain Dan: Soup4Bonnie: She's also famously not Republican, which helps a great deal in getting Hispanic people to vote for her.  The other party has a real problem with minority and youth and female turnout.

Anywhere else, yes.  But Hispanics in Texas are over 40% Republican.


False.

http://www.statesman.com/news/news/state-regional-govt-politics/poll -h ispanics-in-texas-more-likely-to-favor-gop-t/ndHM2/

"Gallup tracking polls show that 27 percent of Hispanics in Texas identify with the GOP, the highest percentage since 2008 and 6 percent higher than elsewhere in the country."

So, your general point is correct (Hispanics in Texas are more likely to be Republicans than they are in the rest of the country) but you exaggerate the level of such a difference significantly.
 
2014-03-06 12:23:50 PM

The One True TheDavid: TerminalEchoes: Doktor_Zhivago:

Why are they so afraid of a strong liberal woman?

I'd ask the same thing to liberals.

If you mean Hillary, she's nowhere near a liberal either.

They might have to dig up Bella Abzug.


Hillary is a Corpo.
Elizabeth Warren is a Progressive.
Who is it that liberals are supposedly afraid of?
 
2014-03-06 01:05:05 PM

Don't Troll Me Bro!: BSABSVR: Ha ha!  You won slightly less convincingly than some people hoped!  I bet it totally sucks to be you!

Interestingly, that was the actual rallying cry from one of the crazy-ass teabagger senator candidates in 2010.  "Well she obviously doesn't deserve your vote.  She's not even beating me by double-digits!  How pitiful is that?"


That was my first thought too! Their new rallying cry is "We're not losing as badly as we were projected to!!"

/party of the participation trophy
 
2014-03-06 01:23:02 PM

Empty Matchbook: Don't Troll Me Bro!: BSABSVR: Ha ha!  You won slightly less convincingly than some people hoped!  I bet it totally sucks to be you!

Interestingly, that was the actual rallying cry from one of the crazy-ass teabagger senator candidates in 2010.  "Well she obviously doesn't deserve your vote.  She's not even beating me by double-digits!  How pitiful is that?"

That was my first thought too! Their new rallying cry is "We're not losing as badly as we were projected to!!"

/party of the participation trophy


So  that's why I feel like we're in the participation trophy generation... because the babies are getting the media spotlight even though it's the "liberal media". The party of "personal responsibility"...
 
2014-03-06 01:57:53 PM

Almost Everybody Poops: AeAe: She's going to get destroyed. And I support Wendy.

Texas elected Perry, Cruz, Cornyn, Stockman, Gohmert .. That's a who's who of right wing extremism and idiocy.

Texas will not elect Davis.

I'm hopeful that some crazy derp comes out of Abbott between now and November akin to Todd Akin, but alas, you are probably right.

Heck, Akin's remarks would probably give him a boost in Texas.


Farking Texas.  Texas is that kid that shiats in the pool and everyone has to get out.
 
2014-03-06 02:49:07 PM

TerminalEchoes: Doktor_Zhivago: Why are they so afraid of a strong liberal woman?

I'd ask the same thing to liberals.


And what do they say when you ask them?
 
2014-03-06 02:53:20 PM

The One True TheDavid: Alien Robot:

Why would you even come to a discussion site and make an ignore list?

My Ignore list is comprised of people who've insulted me personally, such as telling me that my opinion means I'm a subhuman Nazi h8ter scumbag who should be whapped with 2x4s again.


Hmm... you've been pretty well behaved in this thread. But I have seen you express some serious hate in other threads. So I dunno. Maybe you should add me to that list.

On the other hand, I never use personal insults in a discussion thread. Your call, really.
 
2014-03-06 03:53:10 PM

TheBigJerk: Captain Dan: NobleHam: So, some Hispanics voted for the Hispanic guy instead of the white lady? I'm shocked. Surely this means Wendy Davis is a doomed joke of a candidate.

Actually, it probably does.  If Hispanic voters, a majority of all Democrats in Texas, are so turned off by Wendy Davis's abortion activism that they'd rather file a protest vote for a no-hoper, it's less likely that they'll turn out for her in the general election.

Wendy Davis will be defeated by double digits.  I'll place a friendly wager ($0.00, but bragging rights) with anyone who thinks otherwise.

I see that particular lie is common clay gospel now.

She was an "activist" for keeping women's health clinics open despite Texas desperate and unconstitutional attempts to shut them down while lying and claiming it was about abortion.


From today's Houston Chronicle: Three Texas women's health clinics offering abortion services- including both facilities in the Rio Grande Valley and the sole clinic in Beaumont - have permanently shuttered their doors in the face of strict state laws currently being challenged in federal court.
 
2014-03-06 04:11:53 PM

Captain Dan: Soup4Bonnie: According to a new study by Latino Decisions, 2.9 million Hispanics are eligible to vote in Texas but don't. Nearly two-thirds of eligible Hispanics didn't cast ballots in 2012.

Get that vote out and you'll turn Texas blue.

Let me get this straight.  Your party's plan to excite and mobilize millions of Latino voters is to nominate a lady who's famous only for supporting abortion?



Good luck with that.


Well, there's that. But she also isn't a filthy racist homophobic xenophobic misogynist bigoted sociopathic warmongering hateful piece of living shiat bag of rotten cocks and coonts.

So I'm guessing she's more appealing than whatever Teatard is running.
 
2014-03-06 06:43:18 PM
http://www.politico.com/2014-election/results/map/governor/texas/#.Ux k HXD9dW-M 

She got 79.1% of the Democratic vote. In political science terms we call that a practically uncontested election. 

On the other side, Abbott lost about half as many votes (~9%) to various minor challengers. 

Both results say nothing about the state of either party in Texas except that they had a, like I said, practically uncontested primary for Governor.
 
2014-03-06 08:49:50 PM

The One True TheDavid: My Ignore list is comprised of people who've insulted me personally, such as telling me that my opinion means I'm a subhuman Nazi h8ter scumbag who should be whapped with 2x4s again.


I laugh and scroll on if that happens to me. I can't imagine having an "ignore list." Are we really that delicate nowadays?
 
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