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(Townhall)   While Wendy Davis won the Democratic nomination for Texas governor she did get crushed by her primary challenger in many areas. Fark: he raised $0 in his campaign   (townhall.com ) divider line
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2014-03-05 06:48:21 PM  
More kkkrap form Kkklownhall, brought to you by Farkkk.com.
 
2014-03-05 06:48:29 PM  
So South Texans voted for a pro-life Democrat rather than Wendy Davis? And this is supposed to be Bad News...for Wendy?

Townhall is CONCERNED.
 
2014-03-05 06:48:46 PM  
Would those happen to be red precincts?
 
2014-03-05 06:49:47 PM  

LordJiro: Townhall is CONCERNED.

 
2014-03-05 06:50:50 PM  
Then I guess Republicans don't have anything to worry about and can stop obsessing over her.
 
2014-03-05 06:52:44 PM  
Why are they so afraid of a strong liberal woman?
 
2014-03-05 06:53:14 PM  
You're not fooling anyone with that new logo TownHall.
 
2014-03-05 06:53:17 PM  
Ha ha!  You won slightly less convincingly than some people hoped!  I bet it totally sucks to be you!
 
2014-03-05 06:53:36 PM  
Yeah, but if those were truly Democrats voting in the Democratic primary, will they vote for Republican Greg Abbott over Wendy this fall?
 
2014-03-05 06:53:48 PM  
Could that article have been any shorter?

Man, these Clown Hall farkers are scared shiatless of Davis.
 
2014-03-05 06:54:20 PM  
What percentage of Texas' voting Democratic population is in the Rio Grande Valley again?
 
2014-03-05 06:54:40 PM  
You said "His".
 
2014-03-05 06:54:44 PM  
The answer, of course, is for these old, white, southern bigots need to die off.  Shouldn't take long.
 
2014-03-05 06:56:16 PM  
It's hilarious how terrified the derpers are of this woman.
 
2014-03-05 06:57:14 PM  
See conservatives, when you act like this about a new Democratic candidate, we know you're scared.

It's like how you think Democrats act about Sarah Palin, but real.
 
2014-03-05 06:57:47 PM  

jso2897: More kkkrap form Kkklownhall, brought to you by Farkkk.com.


Was that ironic?  Do people still do the "k" thing seriously?
 
2014-03-05 06:59:57 PM  
That's it. Shut it down. She's doomed. It's right there in the article. She lost more than two dozen counties, and in a state with two hundred and fifty four counties, there's no way she can win a state-wide election this way. I mean, it's not like voters in the Rio Grande Valley are going to be more likely to support the Democratic candidate over the Republican. Not in that rather blue area of the state. I mean, voters there supported a pro-life primary candidate and there's no chance that the largely Hispanic population cares about any issue besides abortion.
 
2014-03-05 07:00:26 PM  

AeAe: The answer, of course, is for these old, white, southern bigots need to die off.  Shouldn't take long.


Yeah, but Obamacare's Medicaid/Medicare expansion could add years to their lives.

Thanks a lot, Obama!
 
2014-03-05 07:00:28 PM  
Augh, townhall changed their icon. I got duped into clicking.
 
2014-03-05 07:01:15 PM  

Captain Dan: jso2897: More kkkrap form Kkklownhall, brought to you by Farkkk.com.

Was that ironic?  Do people still do the "k" thing seriously?


How's that?  That most racists and bigots are Republican?  You know that's true.
 
2014-03-05 07:01:36 PM  

Lackofname: Augh, townhall changed their icon. I got duped into clicking.


"you changed your icon to townhall?"
 
2014-03-05 07:02:14 PM  

AeAe: The answer, of course, is for these old, white, southern bigots need to die off.  Shouldn't take long.


The area mentioned in the article, the southern Rio Grande Valley, is over 90% Hispanic.
 
2014-03-05 07:02:18 PM  

meat0918: AeAe: The answer, of course, is for these old, white, southern bigots need to die off.  Shouldn't take long.

Yeah, but Obamacare's Medicaid/Medicare expansion could add years to their lives.

Thanks a lot, Obama!


True .. BUT! .. you know Texas and Florida rejected Medicaid expansion right?
 
2014-03-05 07:02:42 PM  

fusillade762: You're not fooling anyone with that new logo TownHall.


Lackofname: Augh, townhall changed their icon. I got duped into clicking.

 
2014-03-05 07:03:14 PM  

Captain Dan: AeAe: The answer, of course, is for these old, white, southern bigots need to die off.  Shouldn't take long.

The area mentioned in the article, the southern Rio Grande Valley, is over 90% Hispanic.


Damn those Hispanics in that area!
 
2014-03-05 07:03:44 PM  
So, some Hispanics voted for the Hispanic guy instead of the white lady? I'm shocked. Surely this means Wendy Davis is a doomed joke of a candidate.
 
2014-03-05 07:05:54 PM  

Captain Dan: jso2897: More kkkrap form Kkklownhall, brought to you by Farkkk.com.

Was that ironic?  Do people still do the "k" thing seriously?


Apparently you do.
 
2014-03-05 07:06:10 PM  

AeAe: meat0918: AeAe: The answer, of course, is for these old, white, southern bigots need to die off.  Shouldn't take long.

Yeah, but Obamacare's Medicaid/Medicare expansion could add years to their lives.

Thanks a lot, Obama!

True .. BUT! .. you know Texas and Florida rejected Medicaid expansion right?


I thought Texas backtracked on that?
 
2014-03-05 07:10:09 PM  

NobleHam: So, some Hispanics voted for the Hispanic guy instead of the white lady? I'm shocked. Surely this means Wendy Davis is a doomed joke of a candidate.


Actually, it probably does.  If Hispanic voters, a majority of all Democrats in Texas, are so turned off by Wendy Davis's abortion activism that they'd rather file a protest vote for a no-hoper, it's less likely that they'll turn out for her in the general election.

Wendy Davis will be defeated by double digits.  I'll place a friendly wager ($0.00, but bragging rights) with anyone who thinks otherwise.
 
2014-03-05 07:11:08 PM  
According to a new study by Latino Decisions, 2.9 million Hispanics are eligible to vote in Texas but don't. Nearly two-thirds of eligible Hispanics didn't cast ballots in 2012.


Get that vote out and you'll turn Texas blue.
 
2014-03-05 07:12:53 PM  
someone call the parrs. they'll make it all alright down in the valley
 
2014-03-05 07:13:19 PM  

Captain Dan: The area mentioned in the article, the southern Rio Grande Valley, is over 90% Hispanic.


Yeah, but in fairness, the only people that can meet the voter ID laws down there are white.
 
2014-03-05 07:13:24 PM  

meat0918: AeAe: meat0918: AeAe: The answer, of course, is for these old, white, southern bigots need to die off.  Shouldn't take long.

Yeah, but Obamacare's Medicaid/Medicare expansion could add years to their lives.

Thanks a lot, Obama!

True .. BUT! .. you know Texas and Florida rejected Medicaid expansion right?

I thought Texas backtracked on that?


Not the last time I looked.. which was last week.  I could be wrong tho.

I was just thinking that Texas has one of the highest, if not the highest population of uninsured folks and that was particularly evil to not allow Medicaid expansion for a state that could benefit most from it.
 
2014-03-05 07:13:56 PM  

buster_v: Could that article have been any shorter?

Man, these Clown Hall farkers are scared shiatless of Davis.


But they more than make up for it with the many entertaining and informative comments. For instance, I was not aware of this: "Davis is a one-item platform person. She is running for late-term abortion ... period. No other issues." Shocking, just shocking!
 
2014-03-05 07:15:09 PM  

Soup4Bonnie: According to a new study by Latino Decisions, 2.9 million Hispanics are eligible to vote in Texas but don't. Nearly two-thirds of eligible Hispanics didn't cast ballots in 2012.

Get that vote out and you'll turn Texas blue.


Let me get this straight.  Your party's plan to excite and mobilize millions of Latino voters is to nominate a lady who's famous only for supporting abortion?

25.media.tumblr.com

Good luck with that.
 
2014-03-05 07:15:46 PM  
She has got Eepublicans absolutely shiatting themselves in fear.
 
2014-03-05 07:16:22 PM  
Republicans, even.
 
2014-03-05 07:17:11 PM  

Captain Dan: NobleHam: So, some Hispanics voted for the Hispanic guy instead of the white lady? I'm shocked. Surely this means Wendy Davis is a doomed joke of a candidate.

Actually, it probably does.  If Hispanic voters, a majority of all Democrats in Texas, are so turned off by Wendy Davis's abortion activism that they'd rather file a protest vote for a no-hoper, it's less likely that they'll turn out for her in the general election.

Wendy Davis will be defeated by double digits.  I'll place a friendly wager ($0.00, but bragging rights) with anyone who thinks otherwise.


This makes sense as things stand right now, but there's plenty of time between now and November for Abbott (or the Nuge) to piss them off enough to come and vote against him.
 
2014-03-05 07:17:24 PM  

SilentStrider: Republicans, even.


Eepublicans sounded more scared.
 
2014-03-05 07:17:45 PM  

Captain Dan: NobleHam: So, some Hispanics voted for the Hispanic guy instead of the white lady? I'm shocked. Surely this means Wendy Davis is a doomed joke of a candidate.

Actually, it probably does.  If Hispanic voters, a majority of all Democrats in Texas, are so turned off by Wendy Davis's abortion activism that they'd rather file a protest vote for a no-hoper, it's less likely that they'll turn out for her in the general election.

Wendy Davis will be defeated by double digits.  I'll place a friendly wager ($0.00, but bragging rights) with anyone who thinks otherwise.


She's going to get destroyed.  And I support Wendy.

Texas elected Perry, Cruz, Cornyn, Stockman, Gohmert .. That's a who's who of right wing extremism and idiocy.

Texas will not elect Davis.
 
2014-03-05 07:18:22 PM  

OneTimed: It's hilarious how terrified the derpers are of this woman.


And the more they go after her the closer the polls get.  Keep it up gents, you're doing a bang up job.
 
2014-03-05 07:19:24 PM  

geek_mars: This makes sense as things stand right now, but there's plenty of time between now and November for Abbott (or the Nuge) to piss them off enough to come and vote against him.


If I were Greg Abbott's campaign manager, I'd allow him one unscripted interview, and I'd kidnap Ted Nugent.
 
2014-03-05 07:21:11 PM  
I really don't get the logic of that article. I have read it again and again and still don't understand it fully.

She didn't campaign hard against someone she beat but was beaten in one region. - SO?
 
2014-03-05 07:23:00 PM  
Texas is going Blue and there is nothing that can really be done about that.
 
2014-03-05 07:23:07 PM  

AeAe: She's going to get destroyed.  And I support Wendy.

Texas elected Perry, Cruz, Cornyn, Stockman, Gohmert .. That's a who's who of right wing extremism and idiocy.

Texas will not elect Davis.


You are probably correct. At best, Texans would elect a conservative Democrat. So up until the point that is no longer widely considered to be an oxymoron, despite the fact it's harder to find a liberal democrat than a conservative one, Texas probably won't have a Democratic governor. Oh well.
 
2014-03-05 07:23:52 PM  

Captain Dan: Let me get this straight.  Your party's plan to excite and mobilize millions of Latino voters is to nominate a lady who's famous only for supporting abortion?


She's also famously not Republican, which helps a great deal in getting Hispanic people to vote for her.  The other party has a real problem with minority and youth and female turnout.
 
2014-03-05 07:25:10 PM  
The two counties explicitly mentioned (Hidalgo, Wallacy) are so red they're basically  infrared.  Losing by a large margin in an area where most of the Democratic primary voters are  bored Republicans listing (D) because their own races are uncontested isn't exactly an indication of low party popularity.

AeAe: Texas elected Perry, Cruz, Cornyn, Stockman, Gohmert .. That's a who's who of right wing extremism and idiocy.

Texas will not elect Davis.


Well, gubernatorial elections are essentially by direct vote with a few perturbations.  By actual population the state's almost exactly 50/50 on the R/D mix... that makes us really red by national standards, but since the gerrymandering doesn't apply as well as it usually does in this election, campaigning well and actually getting the (D) voters to the polls even when their other votes are meaningless could actually pretty easily net you the state.

Albeit... Davis isn't actually very charismatic and not as politically savvy as she could be, so I doubt she'll pull it off too.  But it's not really a matter of the demographics screwing her, she just doesn't have the skill or force of personality to overcome incumbent advantage.  She's banking on the GOP to sink itself... which it will, no doubt, but not to the tun of the 7 or 8 points that being the incumbent executive tends to give.

// Sorry for interrupting the partisan whatever you were doing with actual information, you may resume now.
 
2014-03-05 07:26:03 PM  

Soup4Bonnie: She's also famously not Republican, which helps a great deal in getting Hispanic people to vote for her.  The other party has a real problem with minority and youth and female turnout.


Anywhere else, yes.  But Hispanics in Texas are over 40% Republican.
 
2014-03-05 07:29:44 PM  
Doesn't Texas have closed primaries?  So won't most of the people who voted against Davis yesterday also vote for her in November?
 
2014-03-05 07:29:47 PM  

Jim_Callahan: The two counties explicitly mentioned (Hidalgo, Wallacy) are so red they're basically  infrared.  Losing by a large margin in an area where most of the Democratic primary voters are  bored Republicans listing (D) because their own races are uncontested isn't exactly an indication of low party popularity.

AeAe: Texas elected Perry, Cruz, Cornyn, Stockman, Gohmert .. That's a who's who of right wing extremism and idiocy.

Texas will not elect Davis.

Well, gubernatorial elections are essentially by direct vote with a few perturbations.  By actual population the state's almost exactly 50/50 on the R/D mix... that makes us really red by national standards, but since the gerrymandering doesn't apply as well as it usually does in this election, campaigning well and actually getting the (D) voters to the polls even when their other votes are meaningless could actually pretty easily net you the state.

Albeit... Davis isn't actually very charismatic and not as politically savvy as she could be, so I doubt she'll pull it off too.  But it's not really a matter of the demographics screwing her, she just doesn't have the skill or force of personality to overcome incumbent advantage.  She's banking on the GOP to sink itself... which it will, no doubt, but not to the tun of the 7 or 8 points that being the incumbent executive tends to give.

// Sorry for interrupting the partisan whatever you were doing with actual information, you may resume now.


Lol.  Ok, fair enough.

But let me ask you, who did Texas vote for in the past several presidential elections?  Wouldn't that be indicative of where the state leans idealogically?  Or at least whoever goes out to vote.

Hasn't it always voted Republican?
 
2014-03-05 07:30:13 PM  

Jim_Callahan: The two counties explicitly mentioned (Hidalgo, Wallacy) are so red they're basically  infrared.  Losing by a large margin in an area where most of the Democratic primary voters are  bored Republicans listing (D) because their own races are uncontested isn't exactly an indication of low party popularity.

... Sorry for interrupting the partisan whatever you were doing with actual information, you may resume now.


The information you're giving is total bullshiat.

Hidalgo County contains the 15th congressional district (D+1) and 28th district (D+2), and voted for Obama over Romney by a margin of 71%-29%.
 
2014-03-05 07:33:41 PM  

Captain Dan: geek_mars: This makes sense as things stand right now, but there's plenty of time between now and November for Abbott (or the Nuge) to piss them off enough to come and vote against him.

If I were Greg Abbott's campaign manager, I'd allow him one unscripted interview, and I'd kidnap Ted Nugent.


You're a braver man than I (or perhaps just more politically savvy). If I were Greg Abbott's campaign manager I'd forbid him from responding to questions in any form other than email that I could check, double-check, have independently checked, make sure was edited to remove anything inflammatory, stupid, insulting or false, and I'd exile Ted Nugent.
 
2014-03-05 07:36:33 PM  

Karac: Doesn't Texas have closed primaries?  So won't most of the people who voted against Davis yesterday also vote for her in November?


Nope, any registered voter can walk into the polling location and vote in any primary they choose.
 
2014-03-05 07:37:23 PM  

Jim_Callahan: The two counties explicitly mentioned (Hidalgo, Wallacy) are so red they're basically  infrared.  Losing by a large margin in an area where most of the Democratic primary voters are  bored Republicans listing (D) because their own races are uncontested isn't exactly an indication of low party popularity.

AeAe: Texas elected Perry, Cruz, Cornyn, Stockman, Gohmert .. That's a who's who of right wing extremism and idiocy.

Texas will not elect Davis.

Well, gubernatorial elections are essentially by direct vote with a few perturbations.  By actual population the state's almost exactly 50/50 on the R/D mix... that makes us really red by national standards, but since the gerrymandering doesn't apply as well as it usually does in this election, campaigning well and actually getting the (D) voters to the polls even when their other votes are meaningless could actually pretty easily net you the state.

Albeit... Davis isn't actually very charismatic and not as politically savvy as she could be, so I doubt she'll pull it off too.  But it's not really a matter of the demographics screwing her, she just doesn't have the skill or force of personality to overcome incumbent advantage.  She's banking on the GOP to sink itself... which it will, no doubt, but not to the tun of the 7 or 8 points that being the incumbent executive tends to give.

// Sorry for interrupting the partisan whatever you were doing with actual information, you may resume now.


I think I must be confused. Perry isn't seeking reelection, so unless you're attributing incumbent advantage to Abbott I'm not sure I understand what you mean.
 
2014-03-05 07:43:22 PM  

Soup4Bonnie: Captain Dan: Let me get this straight.  Your party's plan to excite and mobilize millions of Latino voters is to nominate a lady who's famous only for supporting abortion?

She's also famously not Republican, which helps a great deal in getting Hispanic people to vote for her.  The other party has a real problem with minority and youth and female turnout.


Because GWB winning nearly half of Latino's mean a win for dems. The GOP does well with Latino's in Texas (they even elect them like Cruz), the former head of the Texas Sheriff's Association was a Latino Republican (who retired a few years back after 18 years as Sheriff in his county)
ww3.hdnux.com

Oh and if you complain about any education policies in Texas like Creationism and other stuff you're now a racist because this guy is the Education Commissioner in Texas
upload.wikimedia.org
And in the last Houston mayoral elections, the GOP endorsed a gay woman in the runoff election. And the head of the largest Tea Party group in the state is half black and half arab. The GOP speaker in the state is Jewish, and there are other things about the Texas GOP that I find interesting and weird

Texas GOP: The most confusing GOP in the country, don't try to understand it

/New Yorker (a State where Wendy Davis would be a blue-dog)
 
2014-03-05 07:44:44 PM  
What happened to the Texas that elected Ann Richards?
 
2014-03-05 07:44:53 PM  

Captain Dan: But Hispanics in Texas are over 40% Republican.


Maybe. And maybe they were but the demo is now shifting.

"But the group has two factors on its side: the state's growing Hispanic population, which has favored the Democratic Party over Republicans by a 19-point margin in recent polls, and the meticulous door-to-door organizing techniques honed nationwide during Obama's two presidential campaigns. "
 
2014-03-05 07:47:22 PM  

max_pooper: Karac: Doesn't Texas have closed primaries?  So won't most of the people who voted against Davis yesterday also vote for her in November?

Nope, any registered voter can walk into the polling location and vote in any primary they choose.


I thought it was at least a pick-one-or-the-other deal.

In any case, that makes the 'article' mean even less.  Oh no!  Wendy Davis failed to get 80% of the vote in an election Republicans could vote in!
 
2014-03-05 07:47:55 PM  
So in other words, the chances of her winning is pretty damn thin.
 
2014-03-05 07:49:13 PM  

Karac: max_pooper: Karac: Doesn't Texas have closed primaries?  So won't most of the people who voted against Davis yesterday also vote for her in November?

Nope, any registered voter can walk into the polling location and vote in any primary they choose.

I thought it was at least a pick-one-or-the-other deal.

In any case, that makes the 'article' mean even less.  Oh no!  Wendy Davis failed to get 80% of the vote in an election Republicans could vote in!


Yes, you can only vote in once but you can vote any primary you want.
 
2014-03-05 07:49:54 PM  
The polls will be close, and it will probably go to Abbott. BUT! It'll be closer than everyone thinks, and that's the start of progress. I'm not expecting Davis to win, just like I'm not expecting the House to flip all the way back to D control, but it'll be fun to watch. And I'm not saying a Davis loss and a tightening of the cap in the house would be considered "wins" by any means, but it'll be a very obvious step towards the kind of progress we need in this country.

D's have gone to the center and R's have gone batshiat insane. The center would be way better.
 
2014-03-05 07:50:03 PM  

max_pooper: Karac: Doesn't Texas have closed primaries?  So won't most of the people who voted against Davis yesterday also vote for her in November?

Nope, any registered voter can walk into the polling location and vote in any primary they choose.


I've never understood primaries. The closed ones are strictly intra-party. To me they're private affairs and should not be publicly funded.

The open ones are confusing. You can only vote in one party's primary. But the way I see it, it's (at least) two different elections. The candidates aren't running for the same office. They're running for nominations in different parties (again all of this should be funded by the farking parties).

Unless you want your "open primary" to be a true primary where the top two vote getters go on to a run-off to decide who gets into office, then each voter should get to vote in each primary since they're really separate races.
 
2014-03-05 07:51:42 PM  

jedihirsch: Because GWB winning nearly half of Latino's mean a win for dems.


Bush actively solicited Latino votes which is what got him the win.  Cruz?  Not so much.
 
2014-03-05 07:52:57 PM  

Fart_Machine: jedihirsch: Because GWB winning nearly half of Latino's mean a win for dems.

Bush actively solicited Latino votes which is what got him the win.  Cruz?  Not so much.


Also the GOP has really cranked up the brown hate since 2000.
 
2014-03-05 07:59:05 PM  

BMulligan: What happened to the Texas that elected Ann Richards?


Davis's only hope is her own Clayton Williams. He was, after all, an early starter with the GOP rape offensive.
 
2014-03-05 07:59:44 PM  

jedihirsch: Oh and if you complain about any education policies in Texas like Creationism and other stuff you're now a racist because this guy is the Education Commissioner in Texas


I get what you're going for, but disagreeing with a black guy =/= racism. Ever. Instead, regardless of skin color, laugh at the idea of an Education Commissioner in Texas, especially one that endorses creationism.
 
2014-03-05 08:12:34 PM  
Those demographics are rapidly changing. Age differences between Hispanic and white Texans help explain the growth of Texas' Hispanic population. More than half of Hispanic Texans are under age 30, while 35 percent of white Texans are under age 30, the report said.
Start talking about immigration and watch the demo really slide left.
 
2014-03-05 08:28:17 PM  
all the koch money that will be dumped into texas during the next few election cycles could, well, could do a lot of good things.

rabid television commercials are not one of them
 
2014-03-05 08:28:30 PM  

AeAe: She's going to get destroyed. And I support Wendy.

Texas elected Perry, Cruz, Cornyn, Stockman, Gohmert .. That's a who's who of right wing extremism and idiocy.

Texas will not elect Davis.


Pretty much this.
 
2014-03-05 08:30:18 PM  
Jim_Callahan:  ... But it's not really a matter of the demographics screwing her, she just doesn't have the skill or force of personality to overcome incumbent advantage....

There is no incumbent. Perry isn't running again. This is the first open election since 1990.

If I remember correctly, in the 2012 presidential election, it was a 53/47%* split (R/D ) with Houston, Austin, and DFW areas pulling in the most Dems. It really is 'urban' vs. 'rural' votes for Dems and Repubs here. Valley vote might change that if people registered, but not expecting the numbers to turn out. What's surprising is that a lot of hispanic voters from the south Texas area affiliate as R. And interestingly, or disturbingly, they often state abortion stance as one of the primary reasons. (no citation, just what I'm told from those on the active political front in Texas. Yes, people on the front lines of this years race!)
 
2014-03-05 08:31:54 PM  

Soup4Bonnie: Those demographics are rapidly changing. Age differences between Hispanic and white Texans help explain the growth of Texas' Hispanic population. More than half of Hispanic Texans are under age 30, while 35 percent of white Texans are under age 30, the report said.
Start talking about immigration and watch the demo really slide left.


THIS.  Latinos will vote for the Latino over the unknown candidate. And oh yeah, we care about more than abortion. But keep making that mistake, derpers. The Aaron Pena cited in the article in a self-hating coconut who sold out to the Rep party after his district was gerrymandered. He's a laughing stalk in political circles.

P.S. Kinky Friedman and his pro-weed platform could be an interesting addition to the ticket, especially in terms of turnout.


/durtymeskan
 
2014-03-05 08:35:26 PM  

Captain Dan: The information you're giving is total bullshiat.

Hidalgo County contains the 15th congressional district (D+1) and 28th district (D+2), and voted for Obama over Romney by a margin of 71%-29%.


Sorry, "east of Hidalgo" is what TFA said, I farked up in transcribing it.  Mea culpa on that being misleading/incorrect.

Hidalgo itself does have two of the dump-counties for the Gerrymandering, yeah.  Look east of that to where TFA is directing attention, though...

geek_mars: I think I must be confused. Perry isn't seeking reelection, so unless you're attributing incumbent advantage to Abbott I'm not sure I understand what you mean.


He's been the AG (i.e. part of the executive branch) since 2002.  AG is much more high-profile in state politics than the governorship, since it actually does things (the Texas governor very, very intentionally doesn't have the ability to do a goddamned thing, since we're a reconstruction government and only had to look a little to the right to see LA getting farked by carpetbaggers).  He's essentially "one of the guys in charge" already.

Albeit, no, not literally incumbent, so maybe shave a few points off the uphill climb for Davis.

Still probably won't overcome it, though, the gerrymander's bad enough that she has to overcome the fact that literally nothing else that (D) voters will be checking on the ballot has even the slightest chance of mattering.  That's a big chunk of system-enforced voter apathy.  You have to get people excited enough that they're willing to stand in line for two hours on their lunch break for literally one relatively un-charismatic politician with  absurdly annoying e-mail spam advertising (I have literally 14 campaign-ads for her in my inbox now, I cleaned it three days ago).

// Not sure why I say "Mea culpa" occasionally when it literally means "My bad" and that's already an expression in my own language.  Kinda silly now I think on it.
 
2014-03-05 08:41:33 PM  

Triple Oak: jedihirsch: Oh and if you complain about any education policies in Texas like Creationism and other stuff you're now a racist because this guy is the Education Commissioner in Texas

I get what you're going for, but disagreeing with a black guy =/= racism. Ever. Instead, regardless of skin color, laugh at the idea of an Education Commissioner in Texas, especially one that endorses creationism.


He didn't endorse it, he just said that there should be a debate if it should be in the schools and be taught side by side with evolution. Regardless, you gotta agree he wears the bow tie well.
 
2014-03-05 08:43:37 PM  
Willacy County doesn't seem red. Democrats got 2400 votes vs 130 for the GOP candidates.

On the other hand, when they're trying t make a big deal that Davis "only" got 79% of the Dem vote statewide, and they found a county where she lost 61%-39%, but where there were only ~2500 voters in the whole county, I think they're reaching a bit.

I still wouldn't rate her chances in November very high. Overall, the Democrat nominees got about 1/3 of the vote.
 
2014-03-05 08:53:51 PM  
This fall, reports showed Davis had raised "less than $700 from the four largest cities in the Rio Grande Valley." Even more amusingly, Davis's opponent claimed $0 in contributions on his campaign finance report in January. Yet, he still came out on top.
=========================================================

It's surprising that a person who raised $700 more than their opponent ended up losing to that opponent?

/No one down there is going to vote democrat in the actual election anyway
 
2014-03-05 09:00:44 PM  

super_grass: So in other words, the chances of her winning is pretty damn thin.


I dunno. I think drought conditions and the end results of the fire season in the Fall are going to effect the election.
 
2014-03-05 09:24:09 PM  

jedihirsch: Triple Oak: jedihirsch: Oh and if you complain about any education policies in Texas like Creationism and other stuff you're now a racist because this guy is the Education Commissioner in Texas

I get what you're going for, but disagreeing with a black guy =/= racism. Ever. Instead, regardless of skin color, laugh at the idea of an Education Commissioner in Texas, especially one that endorses creationism.

He didn't endorse it, he just said that there should be a debate if it should be in the schools and be taught side by side with evolution. Regardless, you gotta agree he wears the bow tie well.


Uh the whole "teach the controversy" is just as embarrassing.
 
2014-03-05 09:24:25 PM  
Don't worry, there's no way for her republican opponent to stand up to her.
 
2014-03-05 09:33:48 PM  

wildcardjack: Don't worry, there's no way for her republican opponent to stand up to her.


That doesn't mean he can't roll right over her.
 
2014-03-05 09:38:01 PM  
There's still time to run me in the Republican primary against Mitch McConnell, but y'all won't, so then I'll be telling you again when there's still time to run me against Rand Paul.

I can easily come out with some positions that would make those guys seem like pinkos. Easily. The strategy of running sort of liberal Democrats against them won't work in Kentucky; here you have to outflank them from the Right. Like in '63 when Wallace said "segregation now, segregation tomorrow, segregation forever" the way to beat him was to run a "Bring back slavery!" campaign.

Then all I'd have to do is take a dive in the real election, like McCain did in '08 by picking Sarah Palin. That is, if there's something in it for me. Otherwise being the most right-wing candidate might get me elected, which might mean I'd be the first Republican Senator to switch to the Socialist Party USA. What could they do, recall me? Of course I wouldn't get re-elected, and one term in the Senate might well keep me from getting back on SSI forever, but I'd be famous.

My Paypal account is linked to the email address in my Profile. Donate early, donate often!

/ But don't tell any real Republicans what I'm up to: it's a secret plan, see.
 
2014-03-05 09:45:22 PM  

AeAe: I was just thinking that Texas has one of the highest, if not the highest population of uninsured folks and that was particularly evil to not allow Medicaid expansion for a state that could benefit most from it.


It should be impossible for any state to do that. It's one thing to legalize marijuana against Federal wishes, it's another to inflict something like this on the people.

A real socialist tyrant would have federalized the Texas National Guard to handle traffic control while the Army rolled up the tanks and APCs. Or something.

Guillotines, fellow Farkers.
 
2014-03-05 09:50:19 PM  

Triple Oak: I get what you're going for, but disagreeing with a black guy =/= racism. Ever.


Then you don't read many Fark political threads, because it seems if you disagree with Obama it's only due to racism. There's no other explanation. For He is perfection incarnate.
 
2014-03-05 10:08:17 PM  

AeAe: The answer, of course, is for these old, white, southern bigots need to die off.  Shouldn't take long.


The problem is, they have kids, that they raised. And they're worse.
 
2014-03-05 10:10:28 PM  

The One True TheDavid: AeAe: I was just thinking that Texas has one of the highest, if not the highest population of uninsured folks and that was particularly evil to not allow Medicaid expansion for a state that could benefit most from it.

It should be impossible for any state to do that. It's one thing to legalize marijuana against Federal wishes, it's another to inflict something like this on the people.

A real socialist tyrant would have federalized the Texas National Guard to handle traffic control while the Army rolled up the tanks and APCs. Or something.

Guillotines, fellow Farkers.


The sickest part is, it will work. When people in those states go bankrupt due to a medical issue they will blame Obamacare.
 
2014-03-05 10:13:33 PM  

Alien Robot: Triple Oak: I get what you're going for, but disagreeing with a black guy =/= racism. Ever.

Then you don't read many Fark political threads, because it seems if you disagree with Obama it's only due to racism. There's no other explanation. For He is perfection incarnate.


he's a center right corporate apologist. how's that?
 
2014-03-05 10:18:27 PM  

Captain Dan: If Hispanic voters, a majority of all Democrats in Texas, are so turned off by Wendy Davis's abortion activism that they'd rather file a protest vote for a no-hoper, it's less likely that they'll turn out for her in the general election.


I believe they had similar sentiments about female voters that voted for Hillary in 2008.  Barack Obama still won handily.
 
2014-03-05 10:20:43 PM  
So...Davis won the nomination, but she's a loser because her very conservative challenger won more votes in conservative areas?

file.walagata.com
 
2014-03-05 10:22:20 PM  
Good luck to her then.
 
2014-03-05 10:41:04 PM  

Alien Robot: Triple Oak: I get what you're going for, but disagreeing with a black guy =/= racism. Ever.

Then you don't read many Fark political threads, because it seems if you disagree with Obama it's only due to racism. There's no other explanation. For He is perfection incarnate.


Falling back on the classics tonight, are we?
 
2014-03-05 10:47:26 PM  

meat0918: AeAe: The answer, of course, is for these old, white, southern bigots need to die off.  Shouldn't take long.

Yeah, but Obamacare's Medicaid/Medicare expansion could add years to their lives.

Thanks a lot, Obama!


Good thing Rick Perry nixed that
 
2014-03-05 11:00:45 PM  

DrBenway: Alien Robot: Triple Oak: I get what you're going for, but disagreeing with a black guy =/= racism. Ever.

Then you don't read many Fark political threads, because it seems if you disagree with Obama it's only due to racism. There's no other explanation. For He is perfection incarnate.

Falling back on the classics tonight, are we?


I don't mind - it makes it easier to fill the ignore list with the people you know are never going to contribute a useful opinion.
 
2014-03-05 11:03:46 PM  
Voting is not just about dollars. May the best person win.
 
2014-03-05 11:05:01 PM  

Triple Oak: jedihirsch: Oh and if you complain about any education policies in Texas like Creationism and other stuff you're now a racist because this guy is the Education Commissioner in Texas

I get what you're going for, but disagreeing with a black guy =/= racism. Ever. Instead, regardless of skin color, laugh at the idea of an Education Commissioner in Texas, especially one that endorses creationism.


WE GET IT, HE'S BLACK

your argument is now invalid
 
2014-03-05 11:09:09 PM  

Captain Dan: jso2897: More kkkrap form Kkklownhall, brought to you by Farkkk.com.

Was that ironic?  Do people still do the "k" thing seriously?


25.media.tumblr.com

Some do...
 
2014-03-05 11:21:26 PM  

jst3p: The One True TheDavid: AeAe: I was just thinking that Texas has one of the highest, if not the highest population of uninsured folks and that was particularly evil to not allow Medicaid expansion for a state that could benefit most from it.

It should be impossible for any state to do that. It's one thing to legalize marijuana against Federal wishes, it's another to inflict something like this on the people.

A real socialist tyrant would have federalized the Texas National Guard to handle traffic control while the Army rolled up the tanks and APCs. Or something.

Guillotines, fellow Farkers.

The sickest part is, it will work. When people in those states go bankrupt due to a medical issue they will blame Obamacare.


Sadly yes.  Everyone remember the reporter who infromed a 'Bagger that his taxes were actually going to decrease under Obamas plan?  The look of denial on that mans face was epic.
 
2014-03-05 11:22:22 PM  

CygnusDarius: AeAe: The answer, of course, is for these old, white, southern bigots need to die off.  Shouldn't take long.

The problem is, they have kids, that they raised. And they're worse.


There's the hope that they will rebel against their parents.  It happens all the time.

I see it my younger friends - they're not bigoted like their parents
 
2014-03-05 11:22:39 PM  
omg the Democrats aren't all in lockstep. stop the presses!
 
2014-03-05 11:29:54 PM  

Doktor_Zhivago: Why are they so afraid of a strong liberal woman?


I'd ask the same thing to liberals.
 
2014-03-05 11:39:54 PM  

BSABSVR: Ha ha!  You won slightly less convincingly than some people hoped!  I bet it totally sucks to be you!


Interestingly, that was the actual rallying cry from one of the crazy-ass teabagger senator candidates in 2010.  "Well she obviously doesn't deserve your vote.  She's not even beating me by double-digits!  How pitiful is that?"
 
2014-03-06 01:55:13 AM  

Omahawg: he's a center right corporate apologist. how's that?


That's racist.
 
2014-03-06 02:03:29 AM  

Captain Dan: I'll place a friendly wager ($0.00, but bragging rights)


I never go in unless the stakes are high, my friend. Triple that figure and you've got yourself a bet!
 
2014-03-06 02:03:39 AM  

DrBenway: Falling back on the classics tonight, are we?


Race is never used as an excuse for the President is it?
 
2014-03-06 02:14:46 AM  

IMDWalrus: I don't mind - it makes it easier to fill the ignore list with the people you know are never going to contribute a useful opinion.


I don't even have an "ignore list" and assume people who do are like little kids sitting in the corner with their fingers in their ears going "la, la, la, I don't hear you." Why would you even come to a discussion site and make an ignore list? To get your opinions validated from the point of yiew that you already have? I come here to understand opposing points of view along with reading those I agree with. Isn't that the point of dialogue?
 
2014-03-06 02:31:35 AM  

duke3522: Would those happen to be red precincts?


Only blue people voted.  Against Wendy.
 
2014-03-06 02:32:42 AM  

Doktor_Zhivago: Why are they so afraid of a strong liberal woman?


Her weak bladder?
 
2014-03-06 03:18:42 AM  
Turn Texas Blue. Ya, I'm not seeein' it.
 
2014-03-06 04:23:16 AM  

Alien Robot: DrBenway: Falling back on the classics tonight, are we?

Race is never used as an excuse for the President is it?


Never used and always used? Really kicking the stuffing out of those straw men tonight!
 
2014-03-06 04:41:36 AM  

Alien Robot: Triple Oak: I get what you're going for, but disagreeing with a black guy =/= racism. Ever.

Then you don't read many Fark political threads, because it seems if you disagree with Obama it's only due to racism. There's no other explanation. For He is perfection incarnate.


Yeah, you're right. You probably shouldn't post here, if that's all you get out of all the discussions that have taken place here.
Come back when you're 18.
 
2014-03-06 05:24:52 AM  

jso2897: Alien Robot: Triple Oak: I get what you're going for, but disagreeing with a black guy =/= racism. Ever.

Then you don't read many Fark political threads, because it seems if you disagree with Obama it's only due to racism. There's no other explanation. For He is perfection incarnate.

Yeah, you're right. You probably shouldn't post here, if that's all you get out of all the discussions that have taken place here.
Come back when you're 18.


Is this a pot - kettle thing?
 
2014-03-06 06:11:42 AM  

Captain Dan: NobleHam: So, some Hispanics voted for the Hispanic guy instead of the white lady? I'm shocked. Surely this means Wendy Davis is a doomed joke of a candidate.

Actually, it probably does.  If Hispanic voters, a majority of all Democrats in Texas, are so turned off by Wendy Davis's abortion activism that they'd rather file a protest vote for a no-hoper, it's less likely that they'll turn out for her in the general election.

Wendy Davis will be defeated by double digits.  I'll place a friendly wager ($0.00, but bragging rights) with anyone who thinks otherwise.


I'll take that bet.  Not on the outcome, but on the spread.  Hispanics don't generally vote in primaries, at least not the underclass that lives in the valley.  And primaries don't accurately reflect the general election.  Davis knew that she only had to get 50% and had to keep her powder dry for the general.  Now that the primary is over, it's a new race.
 
2014-03-06 06:19:08 AM  

Alien Robot: DrBenway: Falling back on the classics tonight, are we?

Race is never used as an excuse for the President is it?


That's Fark Humortm.

It doesn't count.
 
2014-03-06 06:33:57 AM  
Heh... Republicans are so desperate, they're crowing about a candidate winning a Democratic Primary by a small margin?
 
2014-03-06 06:48:56 AM  

Alien Robot: IMDWalrus: I don't mind - it makes it easier to fill the ignore list with the people you know are never going to contribute a useful opinion.

I don't even have an "ignore list" and assume people who do are like little kids sitting in the corner with their fingers in their ears going "la, la, la, I don't hear you." Why would you even come to a discussion site and make an ignore list? To get your opinions validated from the point of yiew that you already have? I come here to understand opposing points of view along with reading those I agree with. Isn't that the point of dialogue?


It's one thing to have people who disagree with you.  We disagreed with a lot of things that Gary had to say.  I still disagree with a number of things that the C-gentleman has to say.  Same with some guy named Nabb, and then there's the dancin' fool.  I, like many posters, have thought they were completely bass-ackwards dead wrong on any number of issues, but you can have a discussion with them.

They're not why there's an ignore button.  It's for the alts, the shills, and the threadshiatters.  The kilos of cheddar, the witless protection programs, the myriad of black cat logins, and the dude with a GED in Law.  They don't contribute anything to the discussion.  They're there to troll and agitate, and some of them are likely encouraged by the staff to stir the pot for clicks.  You get a ton of them every two years, because nothing brings out the clownshoes like an election.
 
2014-03-06 06:52:12 AM  

jso2897: You probably shouldn't post here, if that's all you get out of all the discussions that have taken place here.


What I "get out of all the discussions" here is that in every thread with criticism of the actions of the President there is always someone who shows up to make the claim that such criticism is based on racism and racism alone. It's like JournoList is still putting out talking points.

/"Republicans are 'afraid' of Wendy Davis" seems to be the current talking point about her.
 
2014-03-06 06:55:41 AM  

UNC_Samurai: They're not why there's an ignore button. It's for the alts, the shills, and the threadshiatters. The kilos of cheddar, the witless protection programs, the myriad of black cat logins, and the dude with a GED in Law. They don't contribute anything to the discussion. They're there to troll and agitate, and some of them are likely encouraged by the staff to stir the pot for clicks. You get a ton of them every two years, because nothing brings out the clownshoes like an election.


I just scroll past them.
 
2014-03-06 06:57:32 AM  

Alien Robot:
Republicans are afraid.


Yes, they are... of many things.
 
2014-03-06 07:21:43 AM  

keylock71: Alien Robot:
Republicans are afraid.

Yes, they are... of many things.


I can cite a story about Democrats being afraid of something for every one you can cite about Republicans being afraid of something. Just a few weeks ago they were afraid of a statue at Wellesley College thinking it might rape them or something. A statue.
 
2014-03-06 07:36:00 AM  
Reminds me of how much concern trolling there was over Obama's 2012 primary results in the South and Appalachia.

After all: if Obama only got a slim majority of the primary votes in West Virginia, how can he hope to win reelection?
 
2014-03-06 07:42:13 AM  

SilentStrider: She has got Eepublicans absolutely shiatting themselves in fear.


I think she would be more of a progressive ...

static.tvgcdn.net

/hot image
//in more ways than one
///if you know what I mean
////and I think you do
 
2014-03-06 07:55:17 AM  

Alien Robot: jso2897: You probably shouldn't post here, if that's all you get out of all the discussions that have taken place here.

What I "get out of all the discussions" here is that in every thread with criticism of the actions of the President there is always someone who shows up to make the claim that such criticism is based on racism and racism alone. It's like JournoList is still putting out talking points.

/"Republicans are 'afraid' of Wendy Davis" seems to be the current talking point about her.


"Someone" always shows up to opine that the people he doesn't like are lizard people - doesn't mean it's the only thing anybody here thinks.
If you or I want to criticize the Prez, it's cool - but people may disagree with us. People disagree with most of the things I post - i don't whine about it. I'm an adult.
The "you can't criticize Obama without being called racist" whine is just that - a whine. It's a passive- agressive "first strike", intended to establish that the discussion is unfair to you without your having bothered to advance any actual ideas.
People here will disagree with you, juat like they do me, and they will question your motives - just like they do mine.
i18.photobucket.com
 
2014-03-06 07:57:15 AM  

AeAe: The answer, of course, is for these old, white, southern bigots need to die off.  Shouldn't take long.


Quite unaware of the demographic in the Valley I see.
 
2014-03-06 08:04:21 AM  

Alien Robot: jso2897: You probably shouldn't post here, if that's all you get out of all the discussions that have taken place here.

What I "get out of all the discussions" here is that in every thread with criticism of the actions of the President there is always someone who shows up to make the claim that such criticism is based on racism and racism alone. It's like JournoList is still putting out talking points.

/"Republicans are 'afraid' of Wendy Davis" seems to be the current talking point about her.


Well, I think they see her as a harbinger of the inevitable. Whether she actually wins the election doesn't mean much - the handwriting is on the wall, and the future of the Texas GOP is not looking rosy - Davis is just a minor player in a larger drama - the huge demographic shifts that are coming to America. I would say that they ignore that at their own peril - but it actually doesn't make much difference what they do in the long run - if they want to survive, they'll have to adapt - beating back the Wendy avis's of the world is a short term solution.
 
2014-03-06 08:14:25 AM  

Alien Robot: I can cite a story about Democrats being afraid of something for every one you can cite about Republicans being afraid of something.


Knock yourself out, Champ. I'm not a Democrat.
 
2014-03-06 08:29:43 AM  

Alien Robot: keylock71: Alien Robot:
Republicans are afraid.

Yes, they are... of many things.

I can cite a story about Democrats being afraid of something for every one you can cite about Republicans being afraid of something. Just a few weeks ago they were afraid of a statue at Wellesley College thinking it might rape them or something. A statue.


We have statue issues at Ole Miss too.
 
2014-03-06 08:34:58 AM  

jso2897: Alien Robot: jso2897: You probably shouldn't post here, if that's all you get out of all the discussions that have taken place here.

What I "get out of all the discussions" here is that in every thread with criticism of the actions of the President there is always someone who shows up to make the claim that such criticism is based on racism and racism alone. It's like JournoList is still putting out talking points.

/"Republicans are 'afraid' of Wendy Davis" seems to be the current talking point about her.

"Someone" always shows up to opine that the people he doesn't like are lizard people - doesn't mean it's the only thing anybody here thinks.
If you or I want to criticize the Prez, it's cool - but people may disagree with us. People disagree with most of the things I post - i don't whine about it. I'm an adult.
The "you can't criticize Obama without being called racist" whine is just that - a whine. It's a passive- agressive "first strike", intended to establish that the discussion is unfair to you without your having bothered to advance any actual ideas.
People here will disagree with you, juat like they do me, and they will question your motives - just like they do mine.
[i18.photobucket.com image 624x416]


i885.photobucket.com
 
2014-03-06 08:37:21 AM  
Wendy has a bright future, even after she gets crushed in the general.  She's the perfect "Fark You" appointee that Obama loves.
 
2014-03-06 09:14:26 AM  
My neighbor's 8 year old says he likes the Wendy's commercials she filmed when she was younger and skinnier.

I told him she only eats at Wendy's and that is what happened.

A Texan would have believed me.
 
2014-03-06 09:14:58 AM  

sprawl15: Lackofname: Augh, townhall changed their icon. I got duped into clicking.

"you changed your icon to townhall?"


Yeah! Say it backwards!
 
2014-03-06 09:26:07 AM  

AeAe: She's going to get destroyed. And I support Wendy.

Texas elected Perry, Cruz, Cornyn, Stockman, Gohmert .. That's a who's who of right wing extremism and idiocy.

Texas will not elect Davis.


I'm hopeful that some crazy derp comes out of Abbott between now and November akin to Todd Akin, but alas, you are probably right.

Heck, Akin's remarks would probably give him a boost in Texas.
 
2014-03-06 09:35:03 AM  
Looking at recent polling numbers, she does have a bit of an uphill battle to election day.
 
2014-03-06 10:19:46 AM  
Wendy's opponent, Greg Abbott, is married to a Latina.
 
2014-03-06 10:20:05 AM  

jso2897: Alien Robot: jso2897: You probably shouldn't post here, if that's all you get out of all the discussions that have taken place here.

What I "get out of all the discussions" here is that in every thread with criticism of the actions of the President there is always someone who shows up to make the claim that such criticism is based on racism and racism alone. It's like JournoList is still putting out talking points.

/"Republicans are 'afraid' of Wendy Davis" seems to be the current talking point about her.

Well, I think they see her as a harbinger of the inevitable. Whether she actually wins the election doesn't mean much - the handwriting is on the wall, and the future of the Texas GOP is not looking rosy - Davis is just a minor player in a larger drama - the huge demographic shifts that are coming to America. I would say that they ignore that at their own peril - but it actually doesn't make much difference what they do in the long run - if they want to survive, they'll have to adapt - beating back the Wendy avis's of the world is a short term solution.


Hmmm . . . like this?
 
2014-03-06 10:50:28 AM  

Almost Everybody Poops: AeAe: She's going to get destroyed. And I support Wendy.

Texas elected Perry, Cruz, Cornyn, Stockman, Gohmert .. That's a who's who of right wing extremism and idiocy.

Texas will not elect Davis.

I'm hopeful that some crazy derp comes out of Abbott between now and November akin to Todd Akin, but alas, you are probably right.

Heck, Akin's remarks would probably give him a boost in Texas.


Perhaps things have changed since 1990 when Clayton Williams, the original GOP Rapey McRaperson, claimed that bad weather was like rape, you should just sit back and enjoy it. That statement blew his double digit lead and lead to Democrat Ann Richards winning the governorship.
 
2014-03-06 11:05:32 AM  

super_grass: Triple Oak: jedihirsch: Oh and if you complain about any education policies in Texas like Creationism and other stuff you're now a racist because this guy is the Education Commissioner in Texas

I get what you're going for, but disagreeing with a black guy =/= racism. Ever. Instead, regardless of skin color, laugh at the idea of an Education Commissioner in Texas, especially one that endorses creationism.

WE GET IT, HE'S BLACK

your argument is now invalid


Actually, that's the exact argument. Race shouldn't matter when you're discussing a person, but some groups coughrepublicanscough seem to bring it up all the time. Or at least trying to be subtle when hinting at it.

Alien Robot: Triple Oak: I get what you're going for, but disagreeing with a black guy =/= racism. Ever.

Then you don't read many Fark political threads, because it seems if you disagree with Obama it's only due to racism. There's no other explanation. For He is perfection incarnate.


I don't even get what this is supposed to be. Because it's trying to be a joke and failing badly. I see lots of people disagree with Obama, but most of the time they stray away from race. Hell, sometimes I disagree with Obama (see: whoever's telling him the TPP is a good idea). A tremendous amount of the disagreements here tend to come from known trolls and clueless extremists, but that's another discussion.
 
2014-03-06 11:11:49 AM  

Almost Everybody Poops: AeAe: She's going to get destroyed. And I support Wendy.

Texas elected Perry, Cruz, Cornyn, Stockman, Gohmert .. That's a who's who of right wing extremism and idiocy.

Texas will not elect Davis.

I'm hopeful that some crazy derp comes out of Abbott between now and November akin to Todd Akin, but alas, you are probably right.

Heck, Akin's remarks would probably give him a boost in Texas.


Never misunderestimate the ability of Republicans to fark things up and lose.  If she gets the liberal vote and a good share of the Conservative women's vote, she wins.
 
2014-03-06 11:25:09 AM  

Captain Dan: NobleHam: So, some Hispanics voted for the Hispanic guy instead of the white lady? I'm shocked. Surely this means Wendy Davis is a doomed joke of a candidate.

Actually, it probably does.  If Hispanic voters, a majority of all Democrats in Texas, are so turned off by Wendy Davis's abortion activism that they'd rather file a protest vote for a no-hoper, it's less likely that they'll turn out for her in the general election.

Wendy Davis will be defeated by double digits.  I'll place a friendly wager ($0.00, but bragging rights) with anyone who thinks otherwise.


I see that particular lie is common clay gospel now.

She was an "activist" for keeping women's health clinics open despite Texas desperate and unconstitutional attempts to shut them down while lying and claiming it was about abortion.
 
2014-03-06 11:33:32 AM  

TerminalEchoes: Doktor_Zhivago:

Why are they so afraid of a strong liberal woman?

I'd ask the same thing to liberals.


If you mean Hillary, she's nowhere near a liberal either.

They might have to dig up Bella Abzug.
 
2014-03-06 11:38:20 AM  
Alien Robot:

Why would you even come to a discussion site and make an ignore list?

My Ignore list is comprised of people who've insulted me personally, such as telling me that my opinion means I'm a subhuman Nazi h8ter scumbag who should be whapped with 2x4s again.
 
2014-03-06 11:57:26 AM  

Soup4Bonnie: Captain Dan: Let me get this straight.  Your party's plan to excite and mobilize millions of Latino voters is to nominate a lady who's famous only for supporting abortion?

She's also famously not Republican, which helps a great deal in getting Hispanic people to vote for her.  The other party has a real problem with minority and youth and female turnout.


Which is why they'll try to have special laws in place by then to make sure they can't vote.


/I'd love to see her win, I don't expect her to be able to do so, however.
 
2014-03-06 12:14:20 PM  

Captain Dan: Soup4Bonnie: She's also famously not Republican, which helps a great deal in getting Hispanic people to vote for her.  The other party has a real problem with minority and youth and female turnout.

Anywhere else, yes.  But Hispanics in Texas are over 40% Republican.


False.

http://www.statesman.com/news/news/state-regional-govt-politics/poll -h ispanics-in-texas-more-likely-to-favor-gop-t/ndHM2/

"Gallup tracking polls show that 27 percent of Hispanics in Texas identify with the GOP, the highest percentage since 2008 and 6 percent higher than elsewhere in the country."

So, your general point is correct (Hispanics in Texas are more likely to be Republicans than they are in the rest of the country) but you exaggerate the level of such a difference significantly.
 
2014-03-06 12:23:50 PM  

The One True TheDavid: TerminalEchoes: Doktor_Zhivago:

Why are they so afraid of a strong liberal woman?

I'd ask the same thing to liberals.

If you mean Hillary, she's nowhere near a liberal either.

They might have to dig up Bella Abzug.


Hillary is a Corpo.
Elizabeth Warren is a Progressive.
Who is it that liberals are supposedly afraid of?
 
2014-03-06 01:05:05 PM  

Don't Troll Me Bro!: BSABSVR: Ha ha!  You won slightly less convincingly than some people hoped!  I bet it totally sucks to be you!

Interestingly, that was the actual rallying cry from one of the crazy-ass teabagger senator candidates in 2010.  "Well she obviously doesn't deserve your vote.  She's not even beating me by double-digits!  How pitiful is that?"


That was my first thought too! Their new rallying cry is "We're not losing as badly as we were projected to!!"

/party of the participation trophy
 
2014-03-06 01:23:02 PM  

Empty Matchbook: Don't Troll Me Bro!: BSABSVR: Ha ha!  You won slightly less convincingly than some people hoped!  I bet it totally sucks to be you!

Interestingly, that was the actual rallying cry from one of the crazy-ass teabagger senator candidates in 2010.  "Well she obviously doesn't deserve your vote.  She's not even beating me by double-digits!  How pitiful is that?"

That was my first thought too! Their new rallying cry is "We're not losing as badly as we were projected to!!"

/party of the participation trophy


So  that's why I feel like we're in the participation trophy generation... because the babies are getting the media spotlight even though it's the "liberal media". The party of "personal responsibility"...
 
2014-03-06 01:57:53 PM  

Almost Everybody Poops: AeAe: She's going to get destroyed. And I support Wendy.

Texas elected Perry, Cruz, Cornyn, Stockman, Gohmert .. That's a who's who of right wing extremism and idiocy.

Texas will not elect Davis.

I'm hopeful that some crazy derp comes out of Abbott between now and November akin to Todd Akin, but alas, you are probably right.

Heck, Akin's remarks would probably give him a boost in Texas.


Farking Texas.  Texas is that kid that shiats in the pool and everyone has to get out.
 
2014-03-06 02:49:07 PM  

TerminalEchoes: Doktor_Zhivago: Why are they so afraid of a strong liberal woman?

I'd ask the same thing to liberals.


And what do they say when you ask them?
 
2014-03-06 02:53:20 PM  

The One True TheDavid: Alien Robot:

Why would you even come to a discussion site and make an ignore list?

My Ignore list is comprised of people who've insulted me personally, such as telling me that my opinion means I'm a subhuman Nazi h8ter scumbag who should be whapped with 2x4s again.


Hmm... you've been pretty well behaved in this thread. But I have seen you express some serious hate in other threads. So I dunno. Maybe you should add me to that list.

On the other hand, I never use personal insults in a discussion thread. Your call, really.
 
2014-03-06 03:53:10 PM  

TheBigJerk: Captain Dan: NobleHam: So, some Hispanics voted for the Hispanic guy instead of the white lady? I'm shocked. Surely this means Wendy Davis is a doomed joke of a candidate.

Actually, it probably does.  If Hispanic voters, a majority of all Democrats in Texas, are so turned off by Wendy Davis's abortion activism that they'd rather file a protest vote for a no-hoper, it's less likely that they'll turn out for her in the general election.

Wendy Davis will be defeated by double digits.  I'll place a friendly wager ($0.00, but bragging rights) with anyone who thinks otherwise.

I see that particular lie is common clay gospel now.

She was an "activist" for keeping women's health clinics open despite Texas desperate and unconstitutional attempts to shut them down while lying and claiming it was about abortion.


From today's Houston Chronicle: Three Texas women's health clinics offering abortion services- including both facilities in the Rio Grande Valley and the sole clinic in Beaumont - have permanently shuttered their doors in the face of strict state laws currently being challenged in federal court.
 
2014-03-06 04:11:53 PM  

Captain Dan: Soup4Bonnie: According to a new study by Latino Decisions, 2.9 million Hispanics are eligible to vote in Texas but don't. Nearly two-thirds of eligible Hispanics didn't cast ballots in 2012.

Get that vote out and you'll turn Texas blue.

Let me get this straight.  Your party's plan to excite and mobilize millions of Latino voters is to nominate a lady who's famous only for supporting abortion?

Good luck with that.


Well, there's that. But she also isn't a filthy racist homophobic xenophobic misogynist bigoted sociopathic warmongering hateful piece of living shiat bag of rotten cocks and coonts.

So I'm guessing she's more appealing than whatever Teatard is running.
 
2014-03-06 06:43:18 PM  
http://www.politico.com/2014-election/results/map/governor/texas/#.Ux k HXD9dW-M 

She got 79.1% of the Democratic vote. In political science terms we call that a practically uncontested election. 

On the other side, Abbott lost about half as many votes (~9%) to various minor challengers. 

Both results say nothing about the state of either party in Texas except that they had a, like I said, practically uncontested primary for Governor.
 
2014-03-06 08:49:50 PM  

The One True TheDavid: My Ignore list is comprised of people who've insulted me personally, such as telling me that my opinion means I'm a subhuman Nazi h8ter scumbag who should be whapped with 2x4s again.


I laugh and scroll on if that happens to me. I can't imagine having an "ignore list." Are we really that delicate nowadays?
 
2014-03-06 09:00:06 PM  

jso2897: The "you can't criticize Obama without being called racist" whine is just that - a whine. It's a passive- agressive "first strike", intended to establish that the discussion is unfair to you without your having bothered to advance any actual ideas.


It's quite the opposite. You're projecting. Calling any criticism of Obama "racist" is an attempt to shoot down the debate so that the merits of the argument can't be questioned so that you don't have to defend any actual ideas. See the thread I linked too and how much is simply "you're only saying this because he's black" instead of actually talking about the issue.
 
2014-03-07 04:43:45 AM  

BinderWoman: TheBigJerk: Captain Dan: NobleHam: So, some Hispanics voted for the Hispanic guy instead of the white lady? I'm shocked. Surely this means Wendy Davis is a doomed joke of a candidate.

Actually, it probably does.  If Hispanic voters, a majority of all Democrats in Texas, are so turned off by Wendy Davis's abortion activism that they'd rather file a protest vote for a no-hoper, it's less likely that they'll turn out for her in the general election.

Wendy Davis will be defeated by double digits.  I'll place a friendly wager ($0.00, but bragging rights) with anyone who thinks otherwise.

I see that particular lie is common clay gospel now.

She was an "activist" for keeping women's health clinics open despite Texas desperate and unconstitutional attempts to shut them down while lying and claiming it was about abortion.

From today's Houston Chronicle: Three Texas women's health clinics offering abortion services- including both facilities in the Rio Grande Valley and the sole clinic in Beaumont - have permanently shuttered their doors in the face of strict state laws currently being challenged in federal court.


Yeah, I've heard that after a decade of Republican rule in Texas, and with new impossible to follow laws, Texas women are now going to doctors after at-home abortions, because they can't possibly have the experts give them safe abortions.  It like before Roe vs. Wade down there.
 
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