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(LGBTQ Nation)   State senator in Arizona comes out of the closet. I, for one, would never publicly admit to being a state senator in Arizona, but whatever floats your boat   (lgbtqnation.com ) divider line
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2014-03-05 04:17:10 PM  
"I am gay, I'm a Latino, I'm a state senator and it's OK," he said.

You know, he had a choice. He didn't have to do this. He didn't have to deny his true nature. No, he did not. He chose to become a state senator.
 
2014-03-05 05:08:10 PM  
Good. The more that people realize there are gays amongst them that they already think of as "regular people", the more likely they are to accept gays as equal human beings. The more people who think of gays as equal human beings, the easier it is for the gay people who already live and work amongst them to come out of the closet. A fabulous feedback loop.

I am glad to see the tide turning faster and faster, and glad to be on the side of history that arcs toward justice. Children will wonder why people were ever "in the closet".
 
2014-03-05 05:18:30 PM  

Otherwise Just Fine: Good. The more that people realize there are gays amongst them that they already think of as "regular people", the more likely they are to accept gays as equal human beings. The more people who think of gays as equal human beings, the easier it is for the gay people who already live and work amongst them to come out of the closet. A fabulous feedback loop.

I am glad to see the tide turning faster and faster, and glad to be on the side of history that arcs toward justice. Children will wonder why people were ever "in the closet".


I'm sorry, what part of "Latino" did you miss? This IS Arizona we're talking about, after all...

And subby?

Good headline. Your jib? Liking the cut of it, I am...
 
2014-03-05 05:18:35 PM  
Over/under on how long until Arizona Senate Republicans begin expulsion proceedings?
 
2014-03-05 05:19:14 PM  
I always thought you could tell just from looking at him and from the way he talks. Did anyone really think he wasn't Latino?
 
2014-03-05 05:19:15 PM  
Considering when Kristen Sinema was revealed to be bi or lesibian, no one batted an eye so the same will apply to him.

/Also, a week late to doing this Steve. Last week could have been a perfect opportunity to freak the Republicans out.
 
2014-03-05 05:21:20 PM  

qorkfiend: Over/under on how long until Arizona Senate Republicans begin expulsion proceedings?


Soon I hope.  Mostly because they'll be singing their own political death warrants.
 
2014-03-05 05:22:36 PM  
img.fark.net
 
2014-03-05 05:22:56 PM  
My condolences to his parents. He could have been a doctor in a different life
 
2014-03-05 05:26:23 PM  
Thanks Obama!
 
2014-03-05 05:33:26 PM  

Otherwise Just Fine: Good. The more that people realize there are gays amongst them that they already think of as "regular people", the more likely they are to accept gays as equal human beings. The more people who think of gays as equal human beings, the easier it is for the gay people who already live and work amongst them to come out of the closet. A fabulous feedback loop.

I am glad to see the tide turning faster and faster, and glad to be on the side of history that arcs toward justice. Children will wonder why people were ever "in the closet".


Or you could take the right wing view and see this as part of a bigger homosexualist conspiracy to place gays in key positions to undermine the family, capitalism and America to bring about Marxism and/or the rapture.
 
2014-03-05 05:33:40 PM  
Gay AND Latino? WTF is he doing in Arizona?!?
 
2014-03-05 05:33:53 PM  
Am I supposed to feel sorry for him?  Applaud him for coming out?  Bullshiat.  He doesn't have to be like that, he can choose to live another way.

There are other jobs out there.
 
2014-03-05 05:33:57 PM  

qorkfiend: Over/under on how long until Arizona Senate Republicans begin expulsion proceedings?


Of a Democrat?
 
2014-03-05 05:35:23 PM  
In before the shills claim we're hypocrites for supporting the "we don't serve legislators" since one of them is gay.

/you folks that try and defend discrimination laws, even if you're trolling, can get farked by a rusty grapefruit spoon
 
2014-03-05 05:35:46 PM  

fusillade762: Gay AND Latino? WTF is he doing in Arizona?!?


Trying to get into a Maricopa jail cell?
 
2014-03-05 05:37:17 PM  

qorkfiend: Over/under on how long until Arizona Senate Republicans begin expulsion proceedings?


That would be tough. They'll have to pretend it's for something besides being gay and Latino or they'll have to explain why they gave Sheriff Babeu and his boyfriend a pass.
 
2014-03-05 05:38:55 PM  
Gallardo, a Democrat and the Senate's minority whip...

Yeah, I BET he's got a whip... ;-)
 
2014-03-05 05:43:00 PM  

Mikey1969: qorkfiend: Over/under on how long until Arizona Senate Republicans begin expulsion proceedings?

Of a Democrat?


Do you think that'll stop them from trying?
 
2014-03-05 05:43:59 PM  
the Senate's minority whip ...there's a joke in there somewhere.
 
2014-03-05 05:49:48 PM  

Mikey1969: qorkfiend: Over/under on how long until Arizona Senate Republicans begin expulsion proceedings?

Of a Democrat?


Not expulsion from the party; expulsion from the Senate.
 
2014-03-05 05:50:14 PM  

Otherwise Just Fine: Good. The more that people realize there are gays amongst them that they already think of as "regular people", the more likely they are to accept gays as equal human beings. The more people who think of gays as equal human beings, the easier it is for the gay people who already live and work amongst them to come out of the closet. A fabulous feedback loop.

I am glad to see the tide turning faster and faster, and glad to be on the side of history that arcs toward justice. Children will wonder why people were ever "in the closet".


Yet those that push the boundaries in some segments of the population will still be killed for generations to come.  I know of one child that is an expert horseman that will not survive his first cattle drive.  Cowboys will be among the last to accept queers as something other than punching bags.  You can try as much as you want but it's not going to change any time soon.  Even Willie Nelson and his acceptance didn't cotton to it.  Even wrote and sang about it.

I'm not saying it's right but it's just how it is.  Personally I see it in a world where a Muslim will cut your head off in the streets for no other reason than he's a Muslim, I don't really care where you stick your dick.  I"ll mock it, but I won't get in your way.
 
2014-03-05 05:57:00 PM  

Otherwise Just Fine: Good. The more that people realize there are gays amongst them that they already think of as "regular people", the more likely they are to accept gays as equal human beings. The more people who think of gays as equal human beings, the easier it is for the gay people who already live and work amongst them to come out of the closet. A fabulous feedback loop.

I am glad to see the tide turning faster and faster, and glad to be on the side of history that arcs toward justice. Children will wonder why people were ever "in the closet".


Exactly.
 
2014-03-05 05:58:30 PM  
Why is it important that I know a person's sexual orientation? In today's day and age, except for some ignorant morons, it doesn't matter anymore. America accepts that people are LBGT (Q) and I'm fine with that.
Do I have to start introducing myself and add that I'm heterosexual ?
 
2014-03-05 06:02:10 PM  

qorkfiend: Mikey1969: qorkfiend: Over/under on how long until Arizona Senate Republicans begin expulsion proceedings?

Of a Democrat?

Not expulsion from the party; expulsion from the Senate.


Expulsion from the state.


Smeggy Smurf: I don't really care where you stick your dick.  I"ll mock it, but I won't get in your way.


Get in the way and you may end up the stickee.
 
2014-03-05 06:06:10 PM  
You go, papi!
 
2014-03-05 06:06:21 PM  
"I am gay, I'm a Latino, I'm a state senator and it's OK," he said.

He sleeps all night and he works all day.
 
2014-03-05 06:24:00 PM  
karenjarchow.com
 
2014-03-05 06:27:09 PM  

cig-mkr: Why is it important that I know a person's sexual orientation? In today's day and age, except for some ignorant morons, it doesn't matter anymore. America accepts that people are LBGT (Q) and I'm fine with that.
Do I have to start introducing myself and add that I'm heterosexual ?


Sadly, those ignorant morons comprise a sizable percentage of the population. No longer a majority perhaps, but enough to matter.
 
2014-03-05 06:28:32 PM  
Why the f*ck does anyone care what their politicians' sexual orientation/preferences are? If it doesn't interfere with job performance, why does it matter? I wouldn't expect a cop pulling me over to disclose that he's gay, or for the cashier ringing me up to disclose that she's gay; why are certain people so obsessed with politicians' sexual orientation/preferences?
 
2014-03-05 06:31:46 PM  
How long until Arizonia conservatives claim his coming out is persecution of their religious freedom?
 
2014-03-05 06:42:47 PM  
In before some asshole starts talking about how coming out is just attention-whori--

cig-mkr: Why is it important that I know a person's sexual orientation? In today's day and age, except for some ignorant morons, it doesn't matter anymore. America accepts that people are LBGT (Q) and I'm fine with that.  Do I have to start introducing myself and add that I'm heterosexual ?


-- goddamnit.
 
2014-03-05 06:50:33 PM  

Nana's Vibrator: the Senate's minority whip ...there's a joke in there somewhere.


I was thinking he's the Minority(2) Whip, but can't seem to build a joke around it. Maybe I just need more caffeine.
 
2014-03-05 07:44:06 PM  

cig-mkr: Why is it important that I know a person's sexual orientation? In today's day and age, except for some ignorant morons, it doesn't matter anymore. America accepts that people are LBGT (Q) and I'm fine with that.
Do I have to start introducing myself and add that I'm heterosexual ?


Because a lot of straight people still seem to care and want to make a big deal out of it?  Because we're still second class citizens before the law?  Because the GOP still has "legally harming gays" as a major party position?  Because a bunch of states are currently trying to pass laws that are designed to be discriminatory towards gay people (and publicly state their intent)?  Because we can be fired or evicted in the majority of states for being gay?  Because we can't get married in the majority of states?

"Coming out" is something that gay people do for straight people.  It's our way of warning you that we're about to act like a straight person--talking normally about our lives and who we're interested in and what's happening with us--and we're giving you the opportunity to freak out before we do so.  And by letting you know that we're gay, we're also letting you know that all this anti-gay shiat affects us, and the hope is that you also won't support that kind of shiat.  Many people seem to think that inequality isn't an issue unless they can put a face on it, so coming out puts that face on it.

Both of my parents were vaguely homophobic in the way that people born in the 40s and hadn't really thought about it often are, but after I came out to them, they both updated their opinions and are now all pro-gay rights and marriage and such.  GOP Senator Rob Portman was against gay rights until his son came out, and now he's pro-gay rights.

It sucks that we still have to play this game, but it's something that straight people force on us, by making it an issue and with many still trying to harm us because of it.  We want nothing more than to not give a shiat, but we don't have that luxury.  Yet.
 
2014-03-05 07:45:33 PM  

Nadie_AZ: "I am gay, I'm a Latino, I'm a state senator and it's OK," he said.


Better GTFO of Arizona.  He's basically the antichrist.
 
2014-03-05 07:46:34 PM  

cig-mkr: Why is it important that I know a person's sexual orientation? In today's day and age, except for some ignorant morons, it doesn't matter anymore. America accepts that people are LBGT (Q) and I'm fine with that.
Do I have to start introducing myself and add that I'm heterosexual ?


It's not important, until it's important because a state legislature wants to make it legal to discriminate based on sexual orientation.  That's pretty obvious, so you asking the question just seems... I don't know... attention whorish?
 
2014-03-05 07:49:54 PM  

Heamer: Why the f*ck does anyone care what their politicians' sexual orientation/preferences are? If it doesn't interfere with job performance, why does it matter? I wouldn't expect a cop pulling me over to disclose that he's gay, or for the cashier ringing me up to disclose that she's gay; why are certain people Conservatives so obsessed with politicians' sexual orientation/preferences?


FTFY.
 
2014-03-05 07:54:17 PM  

Heamer: Why the f*ck does anyone care what their politicians' sexual orientation/preferences are? If it doesn't interfere with job performance, why does it matter? I wouldn't expect a cop pulling me over to disclose that he's gay, or for the cashier ringing me up to disclose that she's gay; why are certain people so obsessed with politicians' sexual orientation/preferences?


Because GOP legislators are actively trying to pass legislation that harms gay people?
 
2014-03-05 07:55:47 PM  
So can a security guard legally refuse to allow him into the building on religious grounds?
 
2014-03-05 08:04:36 PM  

Barry Lyndon's Annuity Cheque: So can a security guard legally refuse to allow him into the building on religious grounds?


Under the law that Brewer vetoed, it would have been a real possibility.  As it is, he can already be refused service at private businesses and evicted from his apartment (if he rents) in most of the state, since AZ state law doesn't protect gay people from discrimination.  Local laws in some cities/towns might.
 
2014-03-05 08:24:43 PM  

ckccfa: cig-mkr: Why is it important that I know a person's sexual orientation? In today's day and age, except for some ignorant morons, it doesn't matter anymore. America accepts that people are LBGT (Q) and I'm fine with that.
Do I have to start introducing myself and add that I'm heterosexual ?

Because a lot of straight people still seem to care and want to make a big deal out of it?  Because we're still second class citizens before the law?  Because the GOP still has "legally harming gays" as a major party position?  Because a bunch of states are currently trying to pass laws that are designed to be discriminatory towards gay people (and publicly state their intent)?  Because we can be fired or evicted in the majority of states for being gay?  Because we can't get married in the majority of states?

"Coming out" is something that gay people do for straight people.  It's our way of warning you that we're about to act like a straight person--talking normally about our lives and who we're interested in and what's happening with us--and we're giving you the opportunity to freak out before we do so.  And by letting you know that we're gay, we're also letting you know that all this anti-gay shiat affects us, and the hope is that you also won't support that kind of shiat.  Many people seem to think that inequality isn't an issue unless they can put a face on it, so coming out puts that face on it.

Both of my parents were vaguely homophobic in the way that people born in the 40s and hadn't really thought about it often are, but after I came out to them, they both updated their opinions and are now all pro-gay rights and marriage and such.  GOP Senator Rob Portman was against gay rights until his son came out, and now he's pro-gay rights.

It sucks that we still have to play this game, but it's something that straight people force on us, by making it an issue and with many still trying to harm us because of it.  We want nothing more than to not give a shiat, but we don't have ...


Hear, hear.
 
2014-03-05 08:42:34 PM  
You can tell that the gay rights movement has just straight-up won their cause when even FARK's reaction to a high-profile person coming out is basically that no one cares and he's being an attention whore for no reason, followed by a string of jokes declaring him a bad person for the other personal preferences/alignments in his 'coming-out speech'.

Clearly, that shiat doesn't even count as remotely dramatic anymore.
 
2014-03-05 09:19:23 PM  

Jim_Callahan: You can tell that the gay rights movement has just straight-up won their cause when even FARK's reaction to a high-profile person coming out is basically that no one cares and he's being an attention whore for no reason, followed by a string of jokes declaring him a bad person for the other personal preferences/alignments in his 'coming-out speech'.

Clearly, that shiat doesn't even count as remotely dramatic anymore.


Unless you're Michelle Bachmann, I guess.
 
2014-03-05 10:14:52 PM  

Jim_Callahan: You can tell that the gay rights movement has just straight-up won their cause when even FARK's reaction to a high-profile person coming out is basically that no one cares and he's being an attention whore for no reason, followed by a string of jokes declaring him a bad person for the other personal preferences/alignments in his 'coming-out speech'.

Clearly, that shiat doesn't even count as remotely dramatic anymore.


Well, if he ate a baby right after he said it.
 
2014-03-05 10:19:07 PM  
The website reads lgbtq- I think that means lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgendered, queer.

Do you think they will add other labels soon? A for androgynous or C for confused or UD for ugly and desperate?

I am curious- doh
 
2014-03-05 10:37:54 PM  

ckccfa: it's something that straight people force on us


That's not entirely true. There are gay people who have issues with gay people. Self loathers and the like. Don't let them off the hook so easy.
 
2014-03-05 11:13:42 PM  

Jim_Callahan: You can tell that the gay rights movement has just straight-up won their cause when even FARK's reaction to a high-profile person coming out is basically that no one cares and he's being an attention whore for no reason, followed by a string of jokes declaring him a bad person for the other personal preferences/alignments in his 'coming-out speech'.

Clearly, that shiat doesn't even count as remotely dramatic anymore.


It won't be over until Free Republic is doing the same.
 
2014-03-05 11:19:13 PM  

qorkfiend: Mikey1969: qorkfiend: Over/under on how long until Arizona Senate Republicans begin expulsion proceedings?

Of a Democrat?

Not expulsion from the party; expulsion from the Senate.


Not sure, he can be recalled, no specific grounds are necessary.  It is a 120 day window and they need signatures for 25% of the voters in his district in his last election to kick it off.

According to Ballotpedia, he did not have a Republican opponent in 2012 and got 100% of the 27.931 votes.  Probably a deep blue Democratic area with little chance of a recall working as they never ran anyone.

I cannot find the criteria for expulsion if it is 51% or 2/3rds vote.  I do not think Republicans in the AZ state senate have the votes.  If it is 2/3rds they need 18 votes and have 17 Republicans in the 30 member AZ Senate.  They need one Democrat to vote with them.
 
2014-03-05 11:24:16 PM  

smellysocksnshoes: The website reads lgbtq- I think that means lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgendered, queer.

Do you think they will add other labels soon? A for androgynous or C for confused or UD for ugly and desperate?

I am curious- doh


I think over time you'll see the labels disappear as fewer and fewer people worry about how you identify yourself or who you sleep with.
 
2014-03-05 11:42:07 PM  

Dwight_Yeast: smellysocksnshoes: The website reads lgbtq- I think that means lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgendered, queer.

Do you think they will add other labels soon? A for androgynous or C for confused or UD for ugly and desperate?

I am curious- doh

I think over time you'll see the labels disappear as fewer and fewer people worry about how you identify yourself or who you sleep with.


I'd like to agree with you but I don't know. If the LBGTQOMGWTFBBQ labels are coming from people "worrying" about who others sleep with, it would end at just gay or queer. They'd prefer it to be as binary as possible, believe me. But we have about a thousand different labels because people want to self-identify as something unique. We don't have the "Pansexual" label because some busybody was worried about how others identity. We have it because "bisexual" wasn't special enough for someone's little snowflake.
 
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