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(Baeble Music)   HBO wants "multicultural" viewers, but not quite enough to cast them in their shows   (baeblemusic.com) divider line 72
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2014-03-05 02:36:52 PM  
Hodor!
 
2014-03-05 02:41:20 PM  
I wouldn't want to cast viewers in my show, either. They probably can't even act.
 
2014-03-05 02:43:23 PM  
Both Treme and The Wire were outstanding shows that had large minority casts and were roundly ignored when they aired.

Take a look in the mirror, America. You're the problem.
 
2014-03-05 02:43:49 PM  
WTF did I just read?
 
2014-03-05 02:44:11 PM  
I wish The Wire hadn't been filled almost exclusively with a white cast.
 
2014-03-05 02:44:41 PM  
History Channel agrees. The only black people on during the month of February were in the past. The only black guy on that channel in the modern is the bouncer on Pawn Stars.
 
2014-03-05 02:45:35 PM  
TFA: Hey HBO, maybe instead of this sure-to-be cringe inducing rap album, you should have just cast a black guy or two?

Nothing with Big Boi and Common will be cringe-worthy. I'll check it out.
 
2014-03-05 02:47:29 PM  
You know what? If the show were nothing but a bunch of rich, privileged folks, maybe someone should biatch, but since it's mostly a bunch of people grubbing in the mud, and the rich folks THEY support, who are really just a step up from grubbing in the mud themselves, I wouldn't be so excited to put minorities in.

Especially since if they did, and it turned out to be a scullery maid, or a stable boy, then someone would start biatching that the only minorities in GOT were cast in service roles. It's kinda like how SNL has been hiring black comedians for years, they've been hiring female comedians for years, so looking for something to biatch about, people started complaining that they hadn't hired a black female comedian, now that they've hired one, the new thing will be that they haven't hired a black lesbian, then a one legged black female lesbian, and so on.

 IN other  words, no matter what HBO does, someone will make it about racism, sexism, or some other 'ism'. Pretty much the same with any other network, TV show, movie franchise, etc...
 
2014-03-05 02:48:14 PM  
Why can't people choose a show to watch based on how well it's written and how good the acting is and not the what color the actors are?
 
2014-03-05 02:48:35 PM  

gilgigamesh: Both Treme and The Wire were outstanding shows that had large minority casts and were roundly ignored when they aired.

Take a look in the mirror, America. You're the problem.


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2014-03-05 02:50:00 PM  

ManateeGag: Why can't people choose a show to watch based on how well it's written and how good the acting is and not the what color the actors are?


You only say that because of White Privilege.
 
2014-03-05 02:52:00 PM  

gilgigamesh: Both Treme and The Wire were outstanding shows that had large minority casts and were roundly ignored when they aired.

Take a look in the mirror, America. You're the problem.


I thought The Wire did really well?

I didn't get in to Treme.
 
2014-03-05 02:53:49 PM  
I guess the author has never seen HBO Latino, I would recommend Mandrake.
 
2014-03-05 02:55:08 PM  

HotWingConspiracy: gilgigamesh: Both Treme and The Wire were outstanding shows that had large minority casts and were roundly ignored when they aired.

Take a look in the mirror, America. You're the problem.

I thought The Wire did really well?

I didn't get in to Treme.


It was hard to get into unless you are from New Orleans, as I am.  It really hit home.
 
2014-03-05 02:57:16 PM  

theflatline: HotWingConspiracy: gilgigamesh: Both Treme and The Wire were outstanding shows that had large minority casts and were roundly ignored when they aired.

Take a look in the mirror, America. You're the problem.

I thought The Wire did really well?

I didn't get in to Treme.

It was hard to get into unless you are from New Orleans, as I am.  It really hit home.


Yeah honestly I just felt like I was outside of the bubble of people that was written for. I didn't think it was bad, just didn't hold me.
 
2014-03-05 03:01:06 PM  

DontMakeMeComeBackThere: ManateeGag: Why can't people choose a show to watch based on how well it's written and how good the acting is and not the what color the actors are?

You only say that because of White Privilege.


Funny enough, there is such a thing as that; the one example that comes to mind is the first Thor movie: Baldr as a black guy, remember the little outrage?.

I for one, would not mind seeing a main character with different ethnicity, but I hate it when they make multi-ethnic characters just for the sake to throw stereotypes and get away with a little bias and racism.

/I wonder how different would have been Breaking Bad if Walter White were Latino, or Black?
 
2014-03-05 03:07:12 PM  

HotWingConspiracy: theflatline: HotWingConspiracy: gilgigamesh: Both Treme and The Wire were outstanding shows that had large minority casts and were roundly ignored when they aired.

Take a look in the mirror, America. You're the problem.

I thought The Wire did really well?

I didn't get in to Treme.

It was hard to get into unless you are from New Orleans, as I am.  It really hit home.

Yeah honestly I just felt like I was outside of the bubble of people that was written for. I didn't think it was bad, just didn't hold me.


It was really as an homage to being an old home week kind of show.  And they did it really well, with musicians, places, all these that locals know, as well as most NOLA people live their lives, and I will laud it for that, but if I were not from there, it would have been hard for me to get as well.
 
2014-03-05 03:07:17 PM  

CygnusDarius: I wonder how different would have been Breaking Bad if Walter White were Latino, or Black?


Ask and ye shall receive.
 
2014-03-05 03:08:44 PM  
shut up, HBO.  Not even white people should be watching that nonsense.
 
2014-03-05 03:09:31 PM  

CygnusDarius: DontMakeMeComeBackThere: ManateeGag: Why can't people choose a show to watch based on how well it's written and how good the acting is and not the what color the actors are?

You only say that because of White Privilege.

Funny enough, there is such a thing as that; the one example that comes to mind is the first Thor movie: Baldr as a black guy, remember the little outrage?.

I for one, would not mind seeing a main character with different ethnicity, but I hate it when they make multi-ethnic characters just for the sake to throw stereotypes and get away with a little bias and racism.

/I wonder how different would have been Breaking Bad if Walter White were Latino, or Black?


Ah yes, the old "You should feel guilty for being born as a person that bigoted assholes leave alone" canard. Fark you, I'm not going to feel bad about myself because there's bigoted assholes out there that don't like particular races or sexes and they're keeping you down. I'll feel bad for you, and I'll help you out if I can, but I refuse to feel bad about not being a target for bigots.
 
2014-03-05 03:11:30 PM  

CygnusDarius: DontMakeMeComeBackThere: ManateeGag: Why can't people choose a show to watch based on how well it's written and how good the acting is and not the what color the actors are?

You only say that because of White Privilege.

Funny enough, there is such a thing as that; the one example that comes to mind is the first Thor movie: Baldr as a black guy, remember the little outrage?.

I for one, would not mind seeing a main character with different ethnicity, but I hate it when they make multi-ethnic characters just for the sake to throw stereotypes and get away with a little bias and racism.

/I wonder how different would have been Breaking Bad if Walter White were Latino, or Black?


www.everydaynodaysoff.com
I'm the one who mutha farkin knocks!!
 
2014-03-05 03:15:55 PM  
Dingleberry Dickwad:Ah yes, the old "You should feel guilty for being born as a person that bigoted assholes leave alone" canard. Fark you, I'm not going to feel bad about myself because there's bigoted assholes out there that don't like particular races or sexes and they're keeping you down. I'll feel bad for you, and I'll help you out if I can, but I refuse to feel bad about not being a target for bigots.

Actually, I'm not asking you to feel bad; to be honest, I'm not asking for anything, but you have to understand that the system has been rigged by the powers that be to discriminate, since discrimination is a good way of control.

However, times are changing, and we, as a society, are becoming more aware. You getting angry at the powers that be that perpetuate discrimination is a sign of change. I'm not embittered or anything, but I am aware that because of my last name, my nationality, and my skin tone, I'm viewed with a certain lens. That, however, is human nature, and is something that is slowly changing for the better, and now we discriminate by skill. Or Fark status, whichever comes first.
 
2014-03-05 03:16:07 PM  

gilgigamesh: Both Treme and The Wire were outstanding shows that had large minority casts and were roundly ignored when they aired.

Take a look in the mirror, America. You're the problem.


This.
 
2014-03-05 03:17:24 PM  

yelmrog: CygnusDarius: DontMakeMeComeBackThere: ManateeGag: Why can't people choose a show to watch based on how well it's written and how good the acting is and not the what color the actors are?

You only say that because of White Privilege.

Funny enough, there is such a thing as that; the one example that comes to mind is the first Thor movie: Baldr as a black guy, remember the little outrage?.

I for one, would not mind seeing a main character with different ethnicity, but I hate it when they make multi-ethnic characters just for the sake to throw stereotypes and get away with a little bias and racism.

/I wonder how different would have been Breaking Bad if Walter White were Latino, or Black?

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I'm the one who mutha farkin knocks!!


That would've been awesome. Also:

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2014-03-05 03:18:25 PM  

gilgigamesh: Both Treme and The Wire were outstanding shows that had large minority casts and were roundly ignored when they aired.

Take a look in the mirror, America. You're the problem.


Or perhaps most people don't watch shows to study their minority cast content in a desperate search for something to poutrage on the internet about.
 
2014-03-05 03:18:41 PM  

gilgigamesh: Both Treme and The Wire were outstanding shows that had large minority casts and were roundly ignored when they aired.

Take a look in the mirror, America. You're the problem.


Treme was such a great, great show. Such great actors, amazing music and wonderful storytelling. I miss that show.
 
2014-03-05 03:19:23 PM  
Now, in HBO's defense, there's lotsa different kinds of whites. That's multicultural, right?
 
2014-03-05 03:20:29 PM  
Black people don't watch because they don't care about ancient Europe.
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2014-03-05 03:20:49 PM  

CSM101: Now, in HBO's defense, there's lotsa different kinds of whites. That's multicultural, right?


Those people are all the same.
 
2014-03-05 03:23:24 PM  

CSM101: Now, in HBO's defense, there's lotsa different kinds of whites. That's multicultural, right?


Yet they all seem to speak in British accent (HBO actors/actresses).
 
2014-03-05 03:29:01 PM  
I'd think if they wanted multi-culti, they'd include something other than what makes up a huge proportion of popular music.  How about some bluegrass?  Dixieland? Chamber music?  Avant-garde jazz? Ranchero?
 
2014-03-05 03:29:31 PM  

CSM101: Now, in HBO's defense, there's lotsa different kinds of whites. That's multicultural, right?


Please stay in Canada with the false the belief that you are more multicultural than the US.
 
2014-03-05 03:30:28 PM  

Billy Liar: I'd think if they wanted multi-culti, they'd include something other than what makes up a huge proportion of popular music.  How about some bluegrass?  Dixieland? Chamber music?  Avant-garde jazz? Ranchero?


A show about the history of jazz would be awesome.
 
2014-03-05 03:34:50 PM  
Salador Saan, Grey Worm and The Red Viper would like a word with the author.
 
2014-03-05 03:36:51 PM  

Billy Liar: I'd think if they wanted multi-culti, they'd include something other than what makes up a huge proportion of popular music.  How about some bluegrass?  Dixieland? Chamber music?  Avant-garde jazz? Ranchero?


Other than Ranchero Treme covers all of those genres...

Avante Garde Jazz usually means without talent.

And there is no such thing as Ranchero, it is called Ranchera, and  if you walk the hallowed streets of the french quarter you hear tons of it these days.  You might have said norteno, cumbia, vallenato, or bachata.

And oddly enough Louisiana had always enjoyed the sounds of Freddy Fender who bridged the gap between Mexican and US country.

But god forbid a Portland resident talks out of his ass about the rest of the country he knows nothing about.
 
2014-03-05 03:50:35 PM  

theflatline: Billy Liar: I'd think if they wanted multi-culti, they'd include something other than what makes up a huge proportion of popular music.  How about some bluegrass?  Dixieland? Chamber music?  Avant-garde jazz? Ranchero?

Other than Ranchero Treme covers all of those genres...

Avante Garde Jazz usually means without talent.

And there is no such thing as Ranchero, it is called Ranchera, and  if you walk the hallowed streets of the french quarter you hear tons of it these days.  You might have said norteno, cumbia, vallenato, or bachata.

And oddly enough Louisiana had always enjoyed the sounds of Freddy Fender who bridged the gap between Mexican and US country.

But god forbid a Portland resident talks out of his ass about the rest of the country he knows nothing about.


yehwhateverbut when I hear "diversity" or "multi-cultural" I would expect to hear about more than the same thing all the time.  I wasn't advocating for any particular style of music, just throwing some out there.  I wasn't trying to rely on stereotypes like those about avant-garde jazz or people in Portland.
 
2014-03-05 03:55:16 PM  

CygnusDarius: Dingleberry Dickwad:Ah yes, the old "You should feel guilty for being born as a person that bigoted assholes leave alone" canard. Fark you, I'm not going to feel bad about myself because there's bigoted assholes out there that don't like particular races or sexes and they're keeping you down. I'll feel bad for you, and I'll help you out if I can, but I refuse to feel bad about not being a target for bigots.

Actually, I'm not asking you to feel bad; to be honest, I'm not asking for anything, but you have to understand that the system has been rigged by the powers that be to discriminate, since discrimination is a good way of control.

However, times are changing, and we, as a society, are becoming more aware. You getting angry at the powers that be that perpetuate discrimination is a sign of change. I'm not embittered or anything, but I am aware that because of my last name, my nationality, and my skin tone, I'm viewed with a certain lens. That, however, is human nature, and is something that is slowly changing for the better, and now we discriminate by skill. Or Fark status, whichever comes first.


Sorry, but damn near every time I've heard people whip out the old "white privilege" or "male privilege" crap over the years it's been by someone who has been doing the bare minimum, if that to better themselves or their position, but they try to blame everyone but themselves for not advancing or being in a better position, or getting turned down for something. I saw it all the time in the military.

Soldier: "I didn't pass the promotion board because I'm black. The white guys and girls that went to the board passed."
Me: "Really? If that's the case how is it that 2 of the 4 First Sgt's plus the CSM on the promotion board are black? Not to mention our platoon SGT and numerous other NCO's. How is it they got promoted? Maybe it's because you didn't put much effort into presenting yourself, and judging by how you were answering board questions in practice, you likely didn't study much either. And if you'll notice you were the only black person out of 3 that presented themselves to the board that didn't pass. "

Soldier: "I wasn't promoted because I'm a female."
Again with pointing out the higher ranking women, and reminding them that they barely scraped by their last PT test and range qualification and they fumbled some questions during the board, as well as pointing out the other females that did get promoted.

You know what I didn't see? I never saw the higher ranking members of whichever race or sex ever complaining of racial or sex based privilege. They simply did what it took to out perform others around them and advance in life.

Now maybe that's just my experience, and the plural of anecdote isn't data, but that's my experience, and it was usually followed by a few "You got it easy in life, you're a white male.". Sorry, but my life has been anything but easy, and none of it had to do what color my skin was or where my genitals were located. I'm not saying racism doesn't exist, or even that racial or sex privilege doesn't exist. But I am saying that barring a few cases, it's not terribly difficult to overcome in this day and age.
 
2014-03-05 04:01:26 PM  

DontMakeMeComeBackThere: ManateeGag: Why can't people choose a show to watch based on how well it's written and how good the acting is and not the what color the actors are?

You only say that because of White Privilege.


Check your cis privilege
 
2014-03-05 04:08:13 PM  

CygnusDarius: Billy Liar: I'd think if they wanted multi-culti, they'd include something other than what makes up a huge proportion of popular music.  How about some bluegrass?  Dixieland? Chamber music?  Avant-garde jazz? Ranchero?

A show about the history of jazz would be awesome.


Think you already have seen it, but what the hell:

www.examiner.com
 
2014-03-05 04:19:45 PM  
Bring back "Happily Ever After, Fairy Tales for Every Child," then.  More kids' programming on HBO would be pretty cool, too.

Not another Bebe's Kids, please.
 
2014-03-05 04:27:39 PM  

Rwa2play: CygnusDarius: Billy Liar: I'd think if they wanted multi-culti, they'd include something other than what makes up a huge proportion of popular music.  How about some bluegrass?  Dixieland? Chamber music?  Avant-garde jazz? Ranchero?

A show about the history of jazz would be awesome.

Think you already have seen it, but what the hell:

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No, I haven't seen it, but I'll certainly look for it now.

/checking on netflix.
 
2014-03-05 04:27:39 PM  
Wait, I was told 'those welfare queens all have cable TV'
 
2014-03-05 04:40:54 PM  

Dingleberry Dickwad: Sorry, but damn near every time I've heard people whip out the old "white privilege" or "male privilege" crap over the years it's been by someone who has been doing the bare minimum, if that to better themselves or their position, but they try to blame everyone but themselves for not advancing or being in a better position, or getting turned down for something. I saw it all the time in the military.


I've seen anecdotal evidence of it, usually in the internet, so it somewhat murky. My personal experience is more mild, more commonly associated in how I look, but they're sporadic and once the illusion is down, it's all back to normal.

My guess it's just people looking for leverage. That I have seen lots of times, when people throw around 'Do you know who I am!?' or 'I know X person, you're just a peon!', when in truth we're all in the same freaking mud. I guess I never found any advantage on that, so instead I just focused on self-improvement rather than be proud on something I am not responsible for. This is also why I'm not really patriotic, and I never celebrate when the national team wins a medal in the Olympics or anything.

/And on a comical note
//It amuses me when I'm listening music in my headphones, and people wanna listen what I'm listening
///They get surprised it's Slayer or Scar Symmetry, instead of pop music or banda
 
2014-03-05 04:46:29 PM  

Fano: DontMakeMeComeBackThere: ManateeGag: Why can't people choose a show to watch based on how well it's written and how good the acting is and not the what color the actors are?

You only say that because of White Privilege.

Check your cis privilege


Sorry, I couldn't.  I was too busy checking myself to avoid wrecking myself.
 
2014-03-05 04:47:10 PM  
I demand more black characters in a show based on a book with not that many black characters. Yeah, that makes sense.
 
2014-03-05 04:54:54 PM  

yelmrog: Sorry, I couldn't.  I was too busy checking myself to avoid wrecking myself.


Not enough to avoid appropriating a phrase originally (maybe) used by another culture.
 
2014-03-05 05:01:51 PM  

gnosis301: yelmrog: Sorry, I couldn't.  I was too busy checking myself to avoid wrecking myself.

Not enough to avoid appropriating a phrase originally (maybe) used by another culture.


www.thefoundist.com
 
2014-03-05 05:15:49 PM  

ManateeGag: Why can't people choose a show to watch based on how well it's written and how good the acting is and not the what color the actors are?


THANK YOU
 
2014-03-05 05:23:51 PM  

yelmrog: Fano: DontMakeMeComeBackThere: ManateeGag: Why can't people choose a show to watch based on how well it's written and how good the acting is and not the what color the actors are?

You only say that because of White Privilege.

Check your cis privilege

Sorry, I couldn't.  I was too busy checking myself to avoid wrecking myself.


And indeed, from the neck up.
 
2014-03-05 05:24:55 PM  

theflatline: HotWingConspiracy: gilgigamesh: Both Treme and The Wire were outstanding shows that had large minority casts and were roundly ignored when they aired.

Take a look in the mirror, America. You're the problem.

I thought The Wire did really well?

I didn't get in to Treme.

It was hard to get into unless you are from New Orleans, as I am.  It really hit home.



You are totally correct.  I live here, loved the show... but I realized the rest of America probably wouldn't get it.  Not in a way that other people are stupid or whatever... just the deep exploration of our culture, and storylines that followed thing that only those in New Orleans ever heard about... I understand the bad ratings.

I mean, if someone does a total "inside baseball" series about Los Angeles... it would probably be lost on me.
 
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