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(Huffington Post)   If aliens exist, do they worship god? Is Earth the only planet which believes in a creator? Can you read this article without hearing it all in Morgan Freeman's voice?   (huffingtonpost.com) divider line 132
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2014-03-05 12:29:55 PM  
Aliens exist....thers one in the white house now!
 
2014-03-05 12:30:54 PM  
They treat Jesus with respect and gifts. He drops by every month. Why? What did you earthlings do when He visited?
 
2014-03-05 12:30:59 PM  
Well, stubby, I can't anymore.
 
2014-03-05 12:31:07 PM  
We'll know when the Prometheus sequel comes out.
 
2014-03-05 12:31:15 PM  
No, yes, yes.
 
2014-03-05 12:31:15 PM  
Titty sprinkles
 
2014-03-05 12:32:27 PM  

Fano: They treat Jesus with respect and gifts. He drops by every month. Why? What did you earthlings do when He visited?


Look, let's not bicker and argue about who crucified who. The point is that I, a cheesmaker, am blessed.
 
2014-03-05 12:33:00 PM  
Yes, they believe in... Gods...

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2014-03-05 12:33:04 PM  
There is definitive proof that intelligent life exists elsewhere in the universe.  The proof is that none of them have attempted to contact us.
 
2014-03-05 12:33:26 PM  
Let's ask the Mormons.
 
2014-03-05 12:33:34 PM  
"First Contact", a play in one act

Alien: I come in Peace.

Athiest: Oh, finally. A rational, advanced being to communicate with!

Alien: I'd like to talk to you about our lord and savior, Bezuz.

Atheist: Noooo!
 
2014-03-05 12:37:41 PM  
CS Lewis played with this idea years ago.  The books are dense tough sledding but they do provide an interesting intellectual exercise.

If there is intelligent life in the universe, I would say it's a near certainty that  they created some form of  religion as well.  Judging only from the human experience, it is pretty clear that religion pre-dates modern humanity itself, as neanderthals buried their dead and seem to have done so ritually and included grave goods.   Also the dating of Gobelki Tepe strongly suggests that instead of the conventional model of humans developing religion after they started developing civilization after the invention of agriculture is wrong.  Instead humans may have developed agriculture BECAUSE of religion and the need to feed large groups of people when they gathered at important ritual sites
 
2014-03-05 12:37:53 PM  
What a ridiculous question.  The star gods do not care for your worship, nor your loyalty.  We are all but sustenance for them.
 
2014-03-05 12:38:14 PM  

cgraves67: "First Contact", a play in one act

Alien: I come in Peace.

Athiest: Oh, finally. A rational, advanced being to communicate with!

Alien: I'd like to talk to you about our lord and savior, Bezuz.

Atheist: Noooo!



Have I got a book for you!

http://www.amazon.com/Calculating-God-Robert-J-Sawyer/dp/0765322897

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The alien asks for another scientist when first one she meets is an atheist.
 
2014-03-05 12:38:17 PM  
Depends on their advancement.  There might be life on Europa, so technically there may be aliens, but it's almost certainly unicellular organisms.  Given the absurdly low ceiling for intelligence among microbes it's basically a certainty that they worship a god.
 
2014-03-05 12:38:22 PM  
It's hard to imaging that any intelligent species that evolved as messily as humans would be any more rational than we are. Aliens are as likely to be filled with irrationality and logical fallacies as we are.
 
2014-03-05 12:39:27 PM  
Would this alien god approve of banging one's step-granddaughter?
 
2014-03-05 12:39:46 PM  

Fano: They treat Jesus with respect and gifts. He drops by every month. Why? What did you earthlings do when He visited?


Wow, that one makes ya think..
 
2014-03-05 12:40:21 PM  

Magorn: CS Lewis played with this idea years ago.  The books are dense tough sledding but they do provide an interesting intellectual exercise.

If there is intelligent life in the universe, I would say it's a near certainty that  they created some form of  religion as well.  Judging only from the human experience, it is pretty clear that religion pre-dates modern humanity itself, as neanderthals buried their dead and seem to have done so ritually and included grave goods.   Also the dating of Gobelki Tepe strongly suggests that instead of the conventional model of humans developing religion after they started developing civilization after the invention of agriculture is wrong.  Instead humans may have developed agriculture BECAUSE of religion and the need to feed large groups of people when they gathered at important ritual sites


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2014-03-05 12:41:04 PM  
Even if they don;t, you bet your arse as soon as we figure out interstellar travel, the missionaries will first in line with crates of the bible written in binary
 
2014-03-05 12:43:28 PM  

macross87: [4.bp.blogspot.com image 470x330]


What if I don't know what your voice sounds like?

Actually subby, I read the headline in Matt Smith's voice, or maybe David Tennant's voice. Really it depends on when I read it, because I also heard it in Nate Ford's voice.
 
2014-03-05 12:43:54 PM  

cgraves67: "First Contact", a play in one act

Alien: I come in Peace.

Athiest: Oh, finally. A rational, advanced being to communicate with!

Alien: I'd like to talk to you about our lord and savior, Bezuz.

Atheist: Noooo!


So now it's the aliens knocking on our doors every Saturday morning.
 
2014-03-05 12:44:01 PM  
Part of being intelligent is having the ability to recognize and exploit patterns in natural behavior. People mis-attribute patterns to design, and thus invent designers.
 
2014-03-05 12:47:05 PM  

soporific: cgraves67: "First Contact", a play in one act

Alien: I come in Peace.

Athiest: Oh, finally. A rational, advanced being to communicate with!

Alien: I'd like to talk to you about our lord and savior, Bezuz.

Atheist: Noooo!

So now it's the aliens knocking on our doors every Saturday morning.


Join the cult of Darkseid!
 
2014-03-05 12:47:12 PM  
So do beings for which there is no evidence believe in a different being for which there is no evidence?  Excellent question.

Next up: Can Bigfoot blood cure vaccine-induced autism?
 
2014-03-05 12:48:32 PM  

GhostfacedFiddlah: So do beings for which there is no evidence believe in a different being for which there is no evidence?  Excellent question.

Next up: Can Bigfoot blood cure vaccine-induced autism?


yes.
 
2014-03-05 12:48:55 PM  
So why haven't the Aliens contacted us?
It's not like we have a small footprint or anything.
 
2014-03-05 12:49:24 PM  
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2014-03-05 12:49:40 PM  
Humans can't even come to grips with the differences in their own species.  It is literally unimaginable what aliens believe.
 
2014-03-05 12:49:56 PM  
I doubt aliens know who George Burns is.
 
2014-03-05 12:51:24 PM  

deanis: Aliens exist....thers one in the white house now!


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2014-03-05 12:53:08 PM  

CygnusDarius: Yes, they believe in... Gods...

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Heretic!

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2014-03-05 12:55:19 PM  

BafflerMeal: If there is intelligent life in the universe, I would say it's a near certainty that  they created some form of  religion as well

IF

   there is some other form of intelligent life on other planets, what makes you think they would be anything like humans, or even be carbon based for that matter?

near certainty?  Based on human DNA and evolution?

The most elementary and valuable statement in science, the beginning of wisdom, is, "I do not know"
 
2014-03-05 12:55:51 PM  

deanis: Aliens exist....thers one in the white house now!


Oh, is today when your Aunt is taking the White House tour?
 
2014-03-05 12:57:00 PM  

cgraves67: "First Contact", a play in one act

Alien: I come in Peace.

Athiest: Oh, finally. A rational, advanced being to communicate with!

Alien: I'd like to talk to you about our lord and savior, Bezuz.

Atheist: Noooo!


It didn't happen that way when the Spanish landed in Central and South America, why would it happen that way when aliens from a million light years land here?

And some bad news for ya here, if aliens did land here, it wouldn't be christianity that would survive, it would be whatever the hell they decided was the one true god. 

So all in all, you better hope they are atheists and see your mytholgy as benign and irrelevent instead of say, blasphemy.
 
2014-03-05 12:58:14 PM  
"As technology starts to grow and develop, and maybe some of those ideas about the heavens change, they become more scientific. Is it likely that the idea of God will go away when you look thousands of years in the future when we have this incredibly advanced civilization? We'll probably know more and more about the way the universe works."

It's obvious.  As we come to know more about the universe, more and more people will learn to agree with whatever it is that I think about the universe.  Duh.

[old joke]
No, I don't suffer from Narcissistic Personality Disorder.
I enjoy every minute of it.
[/old joke]
 
2014-03-05 12:59:16 PM  

cgraves67: "First Contact", a play in one act

Alien: I come in Peace.

Athiest: Oh, finally. A rational, advanced being to communicate with!

Alien: I'd like to talk to you about our lord and savior, Bezuz.

Atheist: Noooo!


That would be an anti-theist. A rational person, including some atheists, would be perfectly willing to listen to new perspective on a god concept and consider it based on its own merits.
 
2014-03-05 01:00:15 PM  
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2014-03-05 01:00:49 PM  

Cubicle Jockey: Part of being intelligent is having the ability to recognize and exploit patterns in natural behavior.


The problem with your rationale is that it's impossible to prove a negative.  No, science CAN'T prove God DIDN'T put the image of Jesus on your breakfast toast.  Because that's not what science is about in the first place.  Science is mainly a process.  You might as well challenge a piece of factory equipment to write a song and declare victory.  No, the equipment will do what it's designed to do (and yes, science is a designed process) very well, and. . . that's about it.

There's another way of looking at it.  God has been invariably portrayed by every culture as comparable in scale to a large human, at most the Earth itself.  Most popular non-satirical depictions of the Abrahamic (?) God have been a bearded dude anywhere been human-sized to the size of a house.

We've already sent a probe ten billion miles out that snapped a picture of the Earth, which at that distance was so tiny it was a fraction of a pixel.  It took decades of cruising at tens of thousands of miles per hour and on astronomical scales it was still in the neighborhood.  All of our religious lore focuses on 0.0000something0001% of what this God supposedly created in some absurdly anthropomorphic portrayals.  There is one valid reason why fundamentalists fear science so much; it basically exposes them -- not for their logic, or lack thereof (which is easily muddied with fallacies), but for their laughably stunted imagination.  God didn't create humans; humans created God.  It's so mind-screamingly obvious to anyone who has even the sliver of the sense of the universe's scale to compare our creation myths with.  Anyone who thinks God is a big neckbeard sitting on a cloud basically has an understanding of the universe equivalent to that of a small child, and I don't want any spiritual guidance from someone that ridiculously far down the intellectual totem pole.
 
2014-03-05 01:00:51 PM  

ltdanman44: BafflerMeal: If there is intelligent life in the universe, I would say it's a near certainty that  they created some form of  religion as well

IF   there is some other form of intelligent life on other planets, what makes you think they would be anything like humans, or even be carbon based for that matter?

near certainty?  Based on human DNA and evolution?

The most elementary and valuable statement in science, the beginning of wisdom, is, "I do not know"


Bad quoting, my man. Bad quoting.

/dirty pool, mister
 
2014-03-05 01:02:17 PM  
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/hot like unstable Energon.
 
2014-03-05 01:05:07 PM  
One fun part of Harry Turtledove's Worldwar series was the Race dealing with human religion.
"What is that human over there shouting?"
"Allahu Ackbar. It means that their imaginary deity is a great imaginary deity."
"Stupid ridiculous humans. Why can't they be like like any normal rational being and worship the Emperor and the spirits of Emperors past?"
"I know. Humans and their stupid religions."
 
2014-03-05 01:05:52 PM  

BafflerMeal: ltdanman44: BafflerMeal: If there is intelligent life in the universe, I would say it's a near certainty that  they created some form of  religion as well

IF   there is some other form of intelligent life on other planets, what makes you think they would be anything like humans, or even be carbon based for that matter?

near certainty?  Based on human DNA and evolution?

The most elementary and valuable statement in science, the beginning of wisdom, is, "I do not know"

Bad quoting, my man. Bad quoting.

/dirty pool, mister


I think that quote fits perfectly here
 
2014-03-05 01:07:41 PM  

dragonchild: Depends on their advancement.  There might be life on Europa, so technically there may be aliens, but it's almost certainly unicellular organisms.  Given the absurdly low ceiling for intelligence among microbes it's basically a certainty that they worship a god.


I would say this article goes with the premise of any life form that could contact us, not one that we found.  I think the article clearly states that the mental exercise here posits an alien life form visiting us...thus significantly more advanced than us.  WE could observe anything we discovered to determine if they have rituals that mimic religious practice.
 
2014-03-05 01:09:03 PM  

dragonchild: God didn't create humans; humans created God.  It's so mind-screamingly obvious to anyone who has even the sliver of the sense of the universe's scale to compare our creation myths with.  Anyone who thinks God is a big neckbeard sitting on a cloud basically has an understanding of the universe equivalent to that of a small child, and I don't want any spiritual guidance from someone that ridiculously far down the intellectual totem pole.


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2014-03-05 01:10:21 PM  
I was all ready to say f*ark subby and read TFA in Stephen Fry's voice. Then I clicked and saw the headline.

When a headline says "Morgan Freeman asks", it is not physically possible to read in any voice other than Morgan Freeman's
 
2014-03-05 01:11:44 PM  

Magorn: CS Lewis played with this idea years ago.  The books are dense tough sledding but they do provide an interesting intellectual exercise.

If there is intelligent life in the universe, I would say it's a near certainty that  they created some form of  religion as well.  Judging only from the human experience, it is pretty clear that religion pre-dates modern humanity itself, as neanderthals buried their dead and seem to have done so ritually and included grave goods.   Also the dating of Gobelki Tepe strongly suggests that instead of the conventional model of humans developing religion after they started developing civilization after the invention of agriculture is wrong.  Instead humans may have developed agriculture BECAUSE of religion and the need to feed large groups of people when they gathered at important ritual sites


My objection to this line of thinking is that there are just so many possible ways of being wrong that you can't expect identical errors too be made by civilizations that evolved completely separately. Now maybe there's some sort of universal constants that all intelligent life shares, but with the one (maybe a few others on this planet), we shouldn't be coming to any conclusions just yet.


/Feel free to speculate though.
 
2014-03-05 01:12:12 PM  
What if the star that guided the wise men to Bethlehem was actually a super nova that destroyed an entire intelligent alien civilization?
 
2014-03-05 01:12:14 PM  
I would say that if Aliens exist, they have similar religious systems.

Proof: There are two cases.

Case 1) God exists. If God does exist, then he did create the Universe, and would have instigated religion on all worlds with intelligent life.

Case 2) God does not exist. If God does not exist, then there is some natural process which motivates humanity to religion, and whatever that process is, it would likely happen for different intelligent beings in different places.
 
2014-03-05 01:13:07 PM  
"You Marklars must leave."

"But, you will all burn in forever in eternal hellfire!"

"Yes, that's nice. Thank you for stopping by!"

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