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2014-03-05 12:13:32 PM  
Good.
 
2014-03-05 12:23:14 PM  
You know, I kind of feel sorry for Boehner, he's a Speaker in the wrong decade. 30-40 years ago he wouldn't get sniped for trying to come to consensus with the opposing President, but would have been hailed as a true statesman.
 
2014-03-05 12:35:19 PM  
Let's hope so.
 
2014-03-05 01:10:55 PM  
Not going to give DeadCokehead.com a click, but I'm sure they have a problem with this.
 
2014-03-05 01:35:11 PM  
Well that would be nice
 
2014-03-05 01:35:12 PM  
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- <insert ironic anti-immigration statement here>
 
2014-03-05 01:36:40 PM  

nmrsnr: You know, I kind of feel sorry for Boehner, he's a Speaker in the wrong decade. 30-40 years ago he wouldn't get sniped for trying to come to consensus with the opposing President, but would have been hailed as a true statesman.


You could be right, but he has gone along with a lot of shiat, as well as lied through his teeth, too many times.

Similarly, a bank robber might not rob banks had he just won the lottery, but would he still be a shiatbag? Perhaps.
 
2014-03-05 01:37:56 PM  
So that's why Boehner got the CPAC snub.

/Purge that RINO!
 
2014-03-05 01:39:52 PM  

nmrsnr: You know, I kind of feel sorry for Boehner, he's a Speaker in the wrong decade. 30-40 years ago he wouldn't get sniped for trying to come to consensus with the opposing President, but would have been hailed as a true statesman.


He ingratiated himself to the wackos in his party.  He made his bed.

That said, if he's trying to change direction, hopefully the moderates follow though I have a feeling he's going to McConnell the whole thing.

/McConnelling is pretending to work across the aisle only to revert to obstructionist grandstanding later
 
2014-03-05 01:40:56 PM  

Smackledorfer: nmrsnr: You know, I kind of feel sorry for Boehner, he's a Speaker in the wrong decade. 30-40 years ago he wouldn't get sniped for trying to come to consensus with the opposing President, but would have been hailed as a true statesman.

You could be right, but he has gone along with a lot of shiat, as well as lied through his teeth, too many times.

Similarly, a bank robber might not rob banks had he just won the lottery, but would he still be a shiatbag? Perhaps.


If he had any sort of backbone or integrity, he would be fighting back against those pricks.  And would have drowned Cantor in a bathtub.
 
2014-03-05 01:43:53 PM  
In other news the "reporter" has no idea what amnesty is.
 
2014-03-05 01:48:28 PM  
I'm sure my old neighbors in Phoenix who murdered several people will be laughing their asses off at the non-amnesty amnesty.

Good luck, killers. May you rise high in the land of opportunity. On the backs of your victims, dead and alive.
 
2014-03-05 01:48:46 PM  

Satanic_Hamster: If he had any sort of backbone or integrity, he would be fighting back against those pricks.


Even without fighting back, some honesty in press conferences when it comes to things like the shutdown would be nice. But of course Republicans can't be honest about what they are doing, because they know that the majority of the nation disagrees with their tactics and goals. Right now the entire party exists on lies and nothing else.

Heck, let us look at immigration.
Boehner way back 'the house will take up immigration when the senate sends us a large comprehensive bill that handles everything'
Boehner after that very thing went down, 'the house will not look at some large catch-all bill that covers everything, that is the wrong way to go'.

Meanwhile nothing has come out of the house.

We can blame teabaggers all day long, but anyone who makes those two statements can suck my dick.
 
2014-03-05 01:49:54 PM  

Smackledorfer: You could be right, but he has gone along with a lot of shiat, as well as lied through his teeth, too many times.


Summoner101: He ingratiated himself to the wackos in his party. He made his bed.


I'm not saying he's not bad at his job or not bad in general, I'm just saying in a different time he wouldn't have the same reputation.

If one were being very generous, one could also make the argument that at the beginning of his tenure he had a choice to make: either spend all of five minutes as speaker and denounce the new powerful lobby that was the Tea Party, or try and change it from the inside, and while publicly touting the party line, try and steer the party towards a more negotiating stance. He chose the second, but he just failed miserably.
 
2014-03-05 02:02:31 PM  
Amnesty?  Again?  How many times are we going to say, "Come to America illegally and eventually we'll just make you a citizen!"
 
2014-03-05 02:04:24 PM  

Explodo: Amnesty?  Again?  How many times are we going to say, "Come to America illegally and eventually we'll just make you a citizen!"


Over and over again. Seems to be working fine.
 
2014-03-05 02:06:12 PM  

DamnYankees: Explodo: Amnesty?  Again?  How many times are we going to say, "Come to America illegally and eventually we'll just make you a citizen!"

Over and over again. Seems to be working fine.


I might go so far as to say it's sort of our thing, immigrants.
 
2014-03-05 02:11:49 PM  

Smackledorfer: We can blame teabaggers all day long, but anyone who makes those two statements can suck my dick.


I wouldn't let Boehner anywhere near my dick even if he had Scarlett Johansson's lips transplanted to his face.
 
2014-03-05 02:12:09 PM  

LasersHurt: DamnYankees: Explodo: Amnesty?  Again?  How many times are we going to say, "Come to America illegally and eventually we'll just make you a citizen!"

Over and over again. Seems to be working fine.

I might go so far as to say it's sort of our thing, immigrants.


Looks like it's working for millions who have tried before.
 
2014-03-05 02:21:38 PM  
Ya farking right. Any day now I'm sure.
 
2014-03-05 02:22:12 PM  
My mind turned that into "amnesty drone" briefly. Which would be more interesting than the "fark, we promised everyone due process, but we can't make a dent on these 10-11 million illegal residents and migrants."

I wonder... If we made it easy for the illegals currently deep inside our borders to come and go with their homelands, would they spend less time here? I've heard tales of Mexicans who only come north for a few months, like warehouse workers in the late summer and early fall distributing Christmas merchandise. They make 4 months of warehouse worker wages and go back home where the cost of living is nothing.
 
2014-03-05 02:22:34 PM  

Triple Oak: LasersHurt: DamnYankees: Explodo: Amnesty?  Again?  How many times are we going to say, "Come to America illegally and eventually we'll just make you a citizen!"

Over and over again. Seems to be working fine.

I might go so far as to say it's sort of our thing, immigrants.

Looks like it's working for millions who have tried before.


It worked for my ancestors when they came over illegally on the Mayflower.
 
2014-03-05 02:30:04 PM  

rebelyell2006: It worked for my ancestors when they came over illegally on the Mayflower.


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2014-03-05 02:30:20 PM  
This amnesty idea has something for everyone!

The Democrats get an even larger voting bloc!  Republicans get to drive down the average income even further!  The vast majority of working Americans get to learn how to live on less money!

Everyone wins!

 Right?
 
2014-03-05 02:34:17 PM  

DamnYankees: Explodo: Amnesty?  Again?  How many times are we going to say, "Come to America illegally and eventually we'll just make you a citizen!"

Over and over again. Seems to be working fine.


Your forgetting about what happened with the Irish.
 
2014-03-05 02:46:09 PM  

Explodo: Amnesty?  Again?  How many times are we going to say, "Come to America illegally and eventually we'll just make you a citizen!"


Maybe businesses should be shut down if they hire illegals, which would be the proper supply-side response to the undocumented worker problem. No jobs, no workers.

Naaah, we'll keep rounding up poor schmoes from their jobs hanging drywall and let them hire another coyote to get them through the border again before their construction boss wonders where all the wetbacks went.
 
2014-03-05 02:46:56 PM  
I know the level of intelligent discourse in this country is about as low as you can get and still form coherent sentences, but would anyone losing their sh*t over amnesty mind explaining how it is functionally different from a "baby-boom" of American citizens? If we're concerned about the long term solvency of programs like Social Security due to lower birthrates, shouldn't we happy to receive an influx of new taxpayers?
 
2014-03-05 02:58:52 PM  

Triple Oak: LasersHurt: DamnYankees: Explodo: Amnesty?  Again?  How many times are we going to say, "Come to America illegally and eventually we'll just make you a citizen!"

Over and over again. Seems to be working fine.

I might go so far as to say it's sort of our thing, immigrants.

Looks like it's working for millions who have tried before.


I think people who try to immigrate into this country illegally and succeed should be allowed to stay. It's like winning the prize after a big endurance competition.  You won it cuz you really really really wanted it bad enough, and overcame some major hurdles.  That being said, we should make even MORE hurdles for these immigrants to overcome.  Maybe even televise it.

/tough mudder, immigrant edition?
 
2014-03-05 03:03:29 PM  

Smackledorfer: nmrsnr: You know, I kind of feel sorry for Boehner, he's a Speaker in the wrong decade. 30-40 years ago he wouldn't get sniped for trying to come to consensus with the opposing President, but would have been hailed as a true statesman.

You could be right, but he has gone along with a lot of shiat, as well as lied through his teeth, too many times.

Similarly, a bank robber might not rob banks had he just won the lottery, but would he still be a shiatbag? Perhaps.


So you're saying Boehner is a politician?
 
2014-03-05 03:05:36 PM  

Randomly: This amnesty idea has something for everyone!

The Democrats get an even larger voting bloc!  Republicans get to drive down the average income even further!  The vast majority of working Americans get to learn how to live on less money!

Everyone wins!

 Right?


If you have the kind of job that has a threat of being taken over by an illegal immigrant, you are a loser.
 
2014-03-05 03:14:55 PM  

UrukHaiGuyz: I know the level of intelligent discourse in this country is about as low as you can get and still form coherent sentences, but would anyone losing their sh*t over amnesty mind explaining how it is functionally different from a "baby-boom" of American citizens? If we're concerned about the long term solvency of programs like Social Security due to lower birthrates, shouldn't we happy to receive an influx of new taxpayers?


Ding ding ding.  Increased immigration is a very pragmatic response to the issue of declining birth rates and a huge generation of benefits-receiving retirees.  Unfortunately, the only type of immigration any country is particularly interested in is the "economic" variety.  AKA, "yes, we'd love for you to bring your millions of dollars here as an investor or businessman.  Oh no money?  GTFO".
 
2014-03-05 03:19:59 PM  

xanadian: Triple Oak: LasersHurt: DamnYankees: Explodo: Amnesty?  Again?  How many times are we going to say, "Come to America illegally and eventually we'll just make you a citizen!"

Over and over again. Seems to be working fine.

I might go so far as to say it's sort of our thing, immigrants.

Looks like it's working for millions who have tried before.

I think people who try to immigrate into this country illegally and succeed should be allowed to stay. It's like winning the prize after a big endurance competition.  You won it cuz you really really really wanted it bad enough, and overcame some major hurdles.  That being said, we should make even MORE hurdles for these immigrants to overcome.  Maybe even televise it.

/tough mudder, immigrant edition?


I would be in favor of a system where you have a small amount of information to complete once you hit a certain amount of years in the country. Like, one set of forms to sign or something. It says "I've been here a while, so I've earned the right to stay."
 
2014-03-05 03:31:38 PM  

Wolsey: Smackledorfer: nmrsnr: You know, I kind of feel sorry for Boehner, he's a Speaker in the wrong decade. 30-40 years ago he wouldn't get sniped for trying to come to consensus with the opposing President, but would have been hailed as a true statesman.

You could be right, but he has gone along with a lot of shiat, as well as lied through his teeth, too many times.

Similarly, a bank robber might not rob banks had he just won the lottery, but would he still be a shiatbag? Perhaps.

So you're saying Boehner is a politician?


I would say he is a politician. I don't, however, play the false equivalence game. There are plenty of politicians who still have consistency and various amounts of honesty.
 
2014-03-05 03:54:21 PM  
At this point, I don't even care how stuff gets done, politically speaking. If American politics is so gridlocked and farked up that they have to take advantage of an international crisis to make headway on legislative action, then do it. We should be doing many things at once, anyway.
 
2014-03-05 04:40:05 PM  

Smackledorfer: Wolsey: Smackledorfer: nmrsnr: You know, I kind of feel sorry for Boehner, he's a Speaker in the wrong decade. 30-40 years ago he wouldn't get sniped for trying to come to consensus with the opposing President, but would have been hailed as a true statesman.

You could be right, but he has gone along with a lot of shiat, as well as lied through his teeth, too many times.

Similarly, a bank robber might not rob banks had he just won the lottery, but would he still be a shiatbag? Perhaps.

So you're saying Boehner is a politician?

I would say he is a politician. I don't, however, play the false equivalence game. There are plenty of politicians who still have consistency and various amounts of honesty.



All due respect, yes you do. Essentially, you'd rather have a consistent liar than an inconsistent one. This means you are still being lied to.
And please refrain from using the words "politicians" and "honesty" in the same sentence. These people have "various amounts of honesty" from topic to topic. Let alone from politician to politician.
 
2014-03-05 05:34:42 PM  

TheShavingofOccam123: I'm sure my old neighbors in Phoenix who murdered several people will be laughing their asses off at the non-amnesty amnesty.

Good luck, killers. May you rise high in the land of opportunity. On the backs of your victims, dead and alive.


What an insightful and poignant addition to this thread.
 
2014-03-05 05:41:53 PM  

Randomly: This amnesty idea has something for everyone!

The Democrats get an even larger voting bloc!  Republicans get to drive down the average income even further!  The vast majority of working Americans get to learn how to live on less money!

Everyone wins!

 Right?


You realize this wouldn't be a problem if they were legal and could demand at least minimum wage right?

Not that minimum wage is high enough, but still. Your post was full of stupid.
 
2014-03-05 06:55:42 PM  

Wolsey: Smackledorfer: Wolsey: Smackledorfer: nmrsnr: You know, I kind of feel sorry for Boehner, he's a Speaker in the wrong decade. 30-40 years ago he wouldn't get sniped for trying to come to consensus with the opposing President, but would have been hailed as a true statesman.

You could be right, but he has gone along with a lot of shiat, as well as lied through his teeth, too many times.

Similarly, a bank robber might not rob banks had he just won the lottery, but would he still be a shiatbag? Perhaps.

So you're saying Boehner is a politician?

I would say he is a politician. I don't, however, play the false equivalence game. There are plenty of politicians who still have consistency and various amounts of honesty.


All due respect, yes you do. Essentially, you'd rather have a consistent liar than an inconsistent one. This means you are still being lied to.
And please refrain from using the words "politicians" and "honesty" in the same sentence. These people have "various amounts of honesty" from topic to topic. Let alone from politician to politician.


You don't know what false equivalence is.
 
2014-03-05 09:14:31 PM  

Lexx: UrukHaiGuyz: I know the level of intelligent discourse in this country is about as low as you can get and still form coherent sentences, but would anyone losing their sh*t over amnesty mind explaining how it is functionally different from a "baby-boom" of American citizens? If we're concerned about the long term solvency of programs like Social Security due to lower birthrates, shouldn't we happy to receive an influx of new taxpayers?

Ding ding ding.  Increased immigration is a very pragmatic response to the issue of declining birth rates and a huge generation of benefits-receiving retirees.  Unfortunately, the only type of immigration any country is particularly interested in is the "economic" variety.  AKA, "yes, we'd love for you to bring your millions of dollars here as an investor or businessman.  Oh no money?  GTFO".


How about we ask more of this "baby boom" of immigrants than a simple willingness to work for the absolute lowest wage possible?

Can anyone losing their sh*t over how awesome this is please name one other country on Earth that knowingly allows people to walk across its borders without documentation, that doesn't consider its border sovereign?
 
2014-03-05 09:24:14 PM  

Smackledorfer: Wolsey: Smackledorfer: Wolsey: Smackledorfer: nmrsnr: You know, I kind of feel sorry for Boehner, he's a Speaker in the wrong decade. 30-40 years ago he wouldn't get sniped for trying to come to consensus with the opposing President, but would have been hailed as a true statesman.

You could be right, but he has gone along with a lot of shiat, as well as lied through his teeth, too many times.

Similarly, a bank robber might not rob banks had he just won the lottery, but would he still be a shiatbag? Perhaps.

So you're saying Boehner is a politician?

I would say he is a politician. I don't, however, play the false equivalence game. There are plenty of politicians who still have consistency and various amounts of honesty.


All due respect, yes you do. Essentially, you'd rather have a consistent liar than an inconsistent one. This means you are still being lied to.
And please refrain from using the words "politicians" and "honesty" in the same sentence. These people have "various amounts of honesty" from topic to topic. Let alone from politician to politician.

You don't know what false equivalence is.



Enlighten me.
 
2014-03-06 01:08:56 AM  

Wolsey: Smackledorfer: Wolsey: Smackledorfer: Wolsey: Smackledorfer: nmrsnr: You know, I kind of feel sorry for Boehner, he's a Speaker in the wrong decade. 30-40 years ago he wouldn't get sniped for trying to come to consensus with the opposing President, but would have been hailed as a true statesman.

You could be right, but he has gone along with a lot of shiat, as well as lied through his teeth, too many times.

Similarly, a bank robber might not rob banks had he just won the lottery, but would he still be a shiatbag? Perhaps.

So you're saying Boehner is a politician?

I would say he is a politician. I don't, however, play the false equivalence game. There are plenty of politicians who still have consistency and various amounts of honesty.


All due respect, yes you do. Essentially, you'd rather have a consistent liar than an inconsistent one. This means you are still being lied to.
And please refrain from using the words "politicians" and "honesty" in the same sentence. These people have "various amounts of honesty" from topic to topic. Let alone from politician to politician.

You don't know what false equivalence is.


Enlighten me.


You implied all degrees of dishonesty are equal.

They are not. Boehnrr is more dishonest in both degree and frequency than many other politicians.
 
2014-03-06 04:02:27 AM  

stoli n coke: Randomly: This amnesty idea has something for everyone!

The Democrats get an even larger voting bloc!  Republicans get to drive down the average income even further!  The vast majority of working Americans get to learn how to live on less money!

Everyone wins!

 Right?

If you have the kind of job that has a threat of being taken over by an illegal immigrant, you are a loser.


That's a pathetic comment.
 
2014-03-06 06:23:13 AM  

SunsetLament: stoli n coke: Randomly: This amnesty idea has something for everyone!

The Democrats get an even larger voting bloc!  Republicans get to drive down the average income even further!  The vast majority of working Americans get to learn how to live on less money!

Everyone wins!

 Right?

If you have the kind of job that has a threat of being taken over by an illegal immigrant, you are a loser.

That's a pathetic comment.


Why, do you NOT want to work glorified outdoor sweatshops for 3rd world wages in a country with 1st world prices? That makes you a pussy son, a no good, yellow-bellied pussy.

/ BUT THEY DERK HURR JERRRBS!
 
2014-03-06 09:02:56 PM  

Explodo: Amnesty?  Again?  How many times are we going to say, "Come to America illegally and eventually we'll just make you a citizen!"


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