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(CNN)   Ever wonder why Navy ships are not attacked by Montezuma's revenge?   (cnn.com) divider line 63
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2014-03-05 08:29:41 AM
Because he can't swim?
 
2014-03-05 08:32:21 AM
Because being the military, they are freakin' anal about cleaning the ship.
 
2014-03-05 08:47:57 AM
Because Clovis and Merle-Ann don't let their kids jam unwashed hands into the open-air shrimp buffet while waiting for the chocolate fountain to be re-armed on the U.S.S. Nimitz?
 
2014-03-05 08:48:31 AM
If a sailor does become ill with a contagious disease, he or she will be isolated so the infection does not spread.

The cruise ships will tell you that they do that too.

"You monitor the movements of everybody who is ill. You make sure they are staying away from the general population on the ship. They are not to go to their work station, they are not to go to the food places,"

...which the cruise ships do not do, and cruise passengers do not comply with the isolation recommendation.
 
2014-03-05 08:52:52 AM

Earguy: If a sailor does become ill with a contagious disease, he or she will be isolated so the infection does not spread.

The cruise ships will tell you that they do that too.

"You monitor the movements of everybody who is ill. You make sure they are staying away from the general population on the ship. They are not to go to their work station, they are not to go to the food places,"

...which the cruise ships do not do, and cruise passengers do not comply with the isolation recommendation.


i would also bet that on a cruise ship, a crew member is discouraged from taking sick time and not doing their assigned tasks.  So you've got crew who are sick, around food and drink passing it on to passengers who share the wealth.
 
2014-03-05 09:07:26 AM
Aren't norovirus and Montezuma's revenge two totally and completely different things?  Pretty sure what you get from drinking the water isn't contagious.
 
2014-03-05 09:08:37 AM
Military vessels have huge amounts of carcinogens (asbestos insulation was a nice, old one). So while they live clean today which is neat, they are poisoning the sailors with substances and then when they find out about it they hide it.
 
2014-03-05 09:09:22 AM

dittybopper: Because being the military, they are freakin' anal about cleaning the ship.


I'm not sure how bright and shiny knee knockers and swept p-ways equates to less norovirus. It's "Sweepers, sweepers, man your brooms, give the ship a good sweep down both fore and aft," not "Lysolers, Lysolers, man your disinfectant bottles..."
 
2014-03-05 09:10:59 AM
No.
 
2014-03-05 09:11:59 AM
Eliminating the poop deck helped.
 
2014-03-05 09:12:14 AM
TL;DR: Because they actually give a damn.
 
2014-03-05 09:13:09 AM
True, the ships are kept safe from major health problems....

until the ship pulls in to Naples and 5,000 sailors are drinking Peroni for 5 days.


As seen on the wall of a USS Forrestal shiatter....   " It's the PERONI !! "
 
2014-03-05 09:13:10 AM
 
2014-03-05 09:15:37 AM
The article should read "almost never" is attacked by novo virus.
Voice of experience speaking here.
The Navy does a good job of preventing most outbreaks, but stuff happens.
The common cold outbreak spreads on a ship rapidly, nothing anyone can do about that either.
 
2014-03-05 09:16:08 AM
Nope.  Don't know, and don't care.  Next question, please.
 
2014-03-05 09:18:42 AM
I've never been in the military. I assume they pay extra attention to the expiration dates on their caviar and vichyssoise.
 
2014-03-05 09:18:53 AM
Because they aren't fat, pasty sickly farks gorging themsekves at the trough.
 
2014-03-05 09:20:34 AM
Because US Navy ships aren't run by for-profit civilian corporations.
 
2014-03-05 09:21:52 AM
Chili Mac on the George Washington in the early 90's. That's all I'm saying.
 
2014-03-05 09:23:15 AM

ComaToast: I've never been in the military. I assume they pay extra attention to the expiration dates on their caviar and vichyssoise.



You are right, they do.   Also the truffles are kept very fresh.


I would also think that the JP-5 that leaks into the Fresh Water holding tanks supresses some of the common germs.

...but that is just a guess.
 
2014-03-05 09:23:41 AM
Cruises do not appeal to me in the least. Being trapped on a boat with very expensive drinks, a random bunch of pathogen spewing people, gambling and ports of call designed specifically to cater to cruise tourists sounds like a truly awful way to travel.
 
2014-03-05 09:24:15 AM
It's an uncommon day when genuinely useless non-news makes it to Fark but, here we are.

Perhaps I should try again but why spoil my record of 0 green lights.
Meh.
 
2014-03-05 09:28:39 AM

Teknowaffle: Because they aren't fat, pasty sickly farks gorging themsekves at the trough.


Err, about that...

/They're Navy, after all!
 
2014-03-05 09:36:06 AM

dittybopper: Because being the military, they are freakin' anal about cleaning the ship.


This.


Unless things have changed in the Navy (or it could depend on the command & supervisors), when I was active duty a supervisor would give a sailor hell for having to go to sick call. 20 years ago, the Navy standard was to hand out a "cold pack" that was basically a cocktail of the most popular cold medicines, including 800mg Motrin.

Fun fact: The military would prescribe 800mg Motrin for everything from the common cold to cancer.
 
2014-03-05 09:36:19 AM
Is it the flogging?
 
2014-03-05 09:36:44 AM
I had always figured that they were, if enough sailors went on shore long enough to pick up a case of the trots.  I assume that this is just one of the things that Navy medical guys are fighting with all the time.
 
2014-03-05 09:37:14 AM

dittybopper: Because being the military, they are freakin' anal about cleaning the ship.


Spoken like someone who has studied a few kickplates up close.
 
2014-03-05 09:37:36 AM

Gary-L: Fun fact: The military would prescribe 800mg Motrin for everything from the common cold to cancer.


Huh.  I thought that was just an Army thing.
 
2014-03-05 09:39:43 AM
This was answered in a green last month. But thanks.
 
2014-03-05 09:39:57 AM

Prank Call of Cthulhu: dittybopper: Because being the military, they are freakin' anal about cleaning the ship.

I'm not sure how bright and shiny knee knockers and swept p-ways equates to less norovirus. It's "Sweepers, sweepers, man your brooms, give the ship a good sweep down both fore and aft," not "Lysolers, Lysolers, man your disinfectant bottles..."


That part is in the morning with "All hands stand by for the Commanding Officer's inspection of messing and berthing." (although usually done by the command duty officer. it's no fun when the CO or XO are pissed at something and actually do it themselves)

/military is also extremely anal about keeping everyone vaccinated against almost everything
//"Go see the doc" is a recommendation on a cruise ship and an order on a Navy Ship
///did my time on the lph-2 version of that namesake back in the 80s
 
2014-03-05 09:41:03 AM
They don't go anywhere near filthy Mexico?
 
2014-03-05 09:52:25 AM

AirForceVet: Because US Navy ships aren't run by for-profit civilian corporations.


I thought for-profit only improves on what the government screws up?
 
2014-03-05 09:57:48 AM

netcentric: I would also think that the JP-5 that leaks into the Fresh Water holding tanks supresses some of the common germs.


This could be part of the reason, but from what i have seen onboard, it was somewhat common to have multiple sailors get sick due to food poisoning/common cold/swine flu/whatever. If you have a high enough fever (over 102), then they would isolate you, otherwise, they would just give you some Motrin or some Dramamene if you are vomiting and send you back to work. You just had to tough it out and make sure you know the quicket path to the head in case of emergency.

If multiple people came down with a stomach virus, it was usually due to the galley food being undercooked or dirty or something, but they would always blame the sailors for not washing their hands or having dirty uniforms.
 
2014-03-05 10:23:49 AM
CSB: my roommate was a medic in the Navy. He finally had to go to a ship. When he got there they're all "Clean up." He's all "But...but...I'm a CORPSMAN. I should be working in medical." They laughed and gave him a mop.
 
2014-03-05 10:31:09 AM

Marcintosh: It's an uncommon day when genuinely useless non-news makes it to Fark but, here we are.

Perhaps I should try again but why spoil my record of 0 green lights.
Meh.


You don't come here often do you? This place is the rubbish bin for useless non-news.
 
2014-03-05 10:34:47 AM

Prank Call of Cthulhu: Revenge!


My first thought

So instead I will leave the fable 2 fart failure
 
2014-03-05 10:39:30 AM
because Navy ships don't have Carpet, wallpaper and wood paneling.   They have tile decks and painted steel bulkheads.   All things that are easy to clean and sterilize.

But infections do happen

One time my ship spent 9 days visiting Thailand (1988, we were on our way home from the Persian Gulf).   Someone in the crew got a nasty Pink Eye infection there.   Before we hit our next port, Hong Kong, 90% of the Crew had pink eye.

Steep ladders, mean everyone keeps their hands on the handrails going up and down.  Common way to spread disease on a Navy ship.
 
2014-03-05 10:46:33 AM

weiserfireman: because Navy ships don't have Carpet, wallpaper and wood paneling.   They have tile decks and painted steel bulkheads.   All things that are easy to clean and sterilize.

But infections do happen

One time my ship spent 9 days visiting Thailand (1988, we were on our way home from the Persian Gulf).   Someone in the crew got a nasty Pink Eye infection there.   Before we hit our next port, Hong Kong, 90% of the Crew had pink eye.

Steep ladders, mean everyone keeps their hands on the handrails going up and down.  Common way to spread disease on a Navy ship.



That's when I was in the Navy.  Were you part of the Carl Vinson battlegroup?  If so, which ship were you on??

Pattaya Beach was a lot of fun.
 
2014-03-05 10:53:16 AM

mongbiohazard: Cruises do not appeal to me in the least. Being trapped on a boat with very expensive drinks, a random bunch of pathogen spewing people, gambling and ports of call designed specifically to cater to cruise tourists sounds like a truly awful way to travel.


This is exactly why I would never go on a cruise. I couldn't imagine being trapped for days with a bunch of loud-mouthed, fat, obnoxious people and their equally loud-mouthed, fat, obnoxious brats and worse being told where to stop and how long to be off the ship. I don't care how large those cruise ships are, they're not large enough. The absolute best way to travel is to do everything yourself, no guided tours of any kind. Buy a guide book and draw up an itinerary for each day and get out and explore, get lost, speak to people, eat at restaurants, see the sights, but on your schedule!
 
2014-03-05 10:56:25 AM
Our biggest fears were catching crabs from the laundry, foot rot from standing in a foot of warm water all day, and getting constipation or diarrhea from the miserable chow on the mess deck.  Yes, I was a dirty, dirty snipe...
 
2014-03-05 10:57:45 AM
"Serious outbreaks of 10 or 20 individuals being sick are taken very seriously."

Bwahaha, yeah right.
When the first two got the swine flu, they were sent home for a week, told to stay away from everyone else.  The next day the first person at sick call was sent home similarly, then everyone else was given a cold pack and sent back to work.  A full third of our ship ended up with the swine flu.

My chief was at least "nice" enough to not keep me there until every member of our department had finished all of their work for the day, as was his norm, and let me head home when I finished what I had to do.

Oh, that was one unpleasant cold...
 
2014-03-05 10:58:09 AM
Well, sodomy and the lash might spread a few germs, but if you hose everything down in the rum you'll probably come out ahead.
 
2014-03-05 11:01:37 AM

Gary-L: weiserfireman: because Navy ships don't have Carpet, wallpaper and wood paneling.   They have tile decks and painted steel bulkheads.   All things that are easy to clean and sterilize.

But infections do happen

One time my ship spent 9 days visiting Thailand (1988, we were on our way home from the Persian Gulf).   Someone in the crew got a nasty Pink Eye infection there.   Before we hit our next port, Hong Kong, 90% of the Crew had pink eye.

Steep ladders, mean everyone keeps their hands on the handrails going up and down.  Common way to spread disease on a Navy ship.


That's when I was in the Navy.  Were you part of the Carl Vinson battlegroup?  If so, which ship were you on??

Pattaya Beach was a lot of fun.


I was on the Carl Vinson back then, thought it was an 86-87 IO cruise though.
 
2014-03-05 11:04:37 AM

andyofne: Gary-L: weiserfireman: because Navy ships don't have Carpet, wallpaper and wood paneling.   They have tile decks and painted steel bulkheads.   All things that are easy to clean and sterilize.

But infections do happen

One time my ship spent 9 days visiting Thailand (1988, we were on our way home from the Persian Gulf).   Someone in the crew got a nasty Pink Eye infection there.   Before we hit our next port, Hong Kong, 90% of the Crew had pink eye.

Steep ladders, mean everyone keeps their hands on the handrails going up and down.  Common way to spread disease on a Navy ship.


That's when I was in the Navy.  Were you part of the Carl Vinson battlegroup?  If so, which ship were you on??

Pattaya Beach was a lot of fun.

I was on the Carl Vinson back then, thought it was an 86-87 IO cruise though.


Nope.  I was on the Chuck Wagon for the 88 IO cruise (87 days at sea and we were dumped off in Kenya for a week before hitting Thailand).  I don't remember an infestation of Pink Eye, though.
 
2014-03-05 11:15:46 AM
DNRTFA but, is it because you are basically a pin cushion for needles full of stuff.
 
2014-03-05 11:22:29 AM

RoyHobbs22: They don't go anywhere near filthy Mexico?


Port visits in Cabo San Lucas, Puerto Vallarta, and Mazatlan - great towns, great people. even the surrounding, less populated towns, about an hour a way on bus were great to experience. If I could, I'd retire to the Pacific Coast of Mexico.

Teknowaffle: Because they aren't fat, pasty sickly farks gorging themsekves at the trough.


that's debatable. Sometimes all there is to do is eat. Mid-rats don't help either.
 
2014-03-05 11:24:42 AM

washington-babylon: dittybopper: Because being the military, they are freakin' anal about cleaning the ship.

Spoken like someone who has studied a few kickplates up close.


US Army.  But I've worked with squids.
 
2014-03-05 12:17:20 PM
3,200 sailors and marines fill the amphibious assault ship when it deploys, and each of them are medically screened and inoculated...

So they don't have norovirus but they're all autistic now.
 
2014-03-05 12:25:19 PM
Because they have to have orders allowing them to get sick or die?

/an idea I got from Full Metal Jacket
 
2014-03-05 12:31:05 PM
Don't let tourists on the boat.
 
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