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(WebMD)   One in three people in Tennessee uses narcotic painkillers. The other two just leave the room when someone puts on country music   (webmd.com) divider line 85
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2014-03-05 09:58:09 AM  
The other two have to hide their meds when the third visits.
 
2014-03-05 10:00:14 AM  
Someone should write a Country song about this.

You picked a fine time to leave me, Mary Beth
2 kids on Oxy and the other's on Meth....
 
2014-03-05 10:11:43 AM  

vernonFL: Someone should write a Country song about this.

You picked a fine time to leave me, Mary Beth
2 kids on Oxy and the other's on Meth....


Eh, just change the references to booze in Porter Wagoner's "Cold Hard Facts of Life" to meth references, and it'll be good,
 
2014-03-05 10:24:04 AM  
As a Tennessee native whose family still resides, I understand completely.  You need a little something to make the place tolerable.

Weed would do it, but that would be illegal.
 
2014-03-05 11:10:39 AM  
or

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2014-03-05 11:55:30 AM  
That's why I listen to Western
 
2014-03-05 11:56:20 AM  
And they all support tough on crime drug laws.
 
2014-03-05 11:57:28 AM  
AMA approves.
 
2014-03-05 11:57:50 AM  

Summoner101: That's why I listen to Western


eil.com

why not both?
 
2014-03-05 11:58:26 AM  
The world is doomed, I say doomed!
 
2014-03-05 11:58:50 AM  

upndn: The world is doomed, I say doomed!


and they feel fine
 
2014-03-05 12:00:43 PM  
I'm going to be as serious as I can be here.

If you're here, there's a good chance you're not going anywhere in life.  You work at Walmart or a fast food place or a car lot or a quik-lube oil place.  Your pay is slightly above minimum wage.  Your realistic goals in life are to not have to worry about a car breaking down or if you're going to make rent in time, and that you have a nice warm place to die.  You put in the best years of your life, and that still doesn't make the hands being held out for money that you don't have go away.  No, they just increase.  The banker man comes and says, "$100?  No, forget it, you were late.  Now it's $500."

Is it any wonder people turn to drugs?  Artificial happy is a fine substitute for no happy after so long.  If the government were smart it'd get on this train and get as many people hooked on opiates and uppers as they can, because that's literally all most people in this state would have to look forward to.  I suspect most of rural America is the same way.  It isn't so much working for a living as it is working your ass off to simply not die.

So I can't criticize them one bit.
 
2014-03-05 12:01:23 PM  
Meh. I wonder if a friend will tell me about the 3 different sleep pills he's been prescribed for the simple tiny task of sleeping at night. He's gone for a week straight several times a year unable to sleep without medicine.

At least it beats the one time a psychiatrist thought he needed something else instead of sleeping pills. That was an interesting 6 month time frame he doesn't remember anything about.  Including a job he applied for, worked for, and quit from.  Everyone there remembers him, and a few are afraid of him. He doesn't know what happened.
 
2014-03-05 12:01:55 PM  
Geek tab?
 
2014-03-05 12:05:52 PM  
HotWingConspiracy: "And they all support tough on crime drug laws."

Well, sure. Those laws are for other people and other drugs.
You know... "those" people and "their" drugs.
 
2014-03-05 12:06:51 PM  

Hrist: I suspect most of rural America the world is the same way.  It isn't so much working for a living as it is working your ass off to simply not die.


That's how 6 billion of the 7 billion people on this planet live, and many of them live full, happy lives despite their struggles.
 
2014-03-05 12:07:46 PM  
www.entertainmentfuse.com
 
2014-03-05 12:09:33 PM  
I personally recommend succinylcholine. You'll trip balls
 
2014-03-05 12:11:25 PM  
It ain't called Hillbilly Heroin for nothin'.
 
2014-03-05 12:12:22 PM  

hardinparamedic: I personally recommend succinylcholine. You'll trip balls


Sounds fun! "Despite its adverse effects, including life threatening malignant hyperthermia, hyperkalaemia, and anaphylaxis, it is perennially popular in emergency medicine because it has the fastest onset and shortest duration of action of all muscle relaxants. "
 
2014-03-05 12:12:51 PM  
Well done, Subby.
 
2014-03-05 12:13:06 PM  

twistedmetal: The other two have to hide their meds when the third visits.


The local Veterinarians wont even carry pain killers any more. Too much of an theft incentive as well as people hurting their animals to get their hands on the pills. Pillbillies for the win!
 
2014-03-05 12:15:05 PM  

Hrist: I'm going to be as serious as I can be here.

If you're here, there's a good chance you're not going anywhere in life.  You work at Walmart or a fast food place or a car lot or a quik-lube oil place.  Your pay is slightly above minimum wage.  Your realistic goals in life are to not have to worry about a car breaking down or if you're going to make rent in time, and that you have a nice warm place to die.  You put in the best years of your life, and that still doesn't make the hands being held out for money that you don't have go away.  No, they just increase.  The banker man comes and says, "$100?  No, forget it, you were late.  Now it's $500."

Is it any wonder people turn to drugs?  Artificial happy is a fine substitute for no happy after so long.  If the government were smart it'd get on this train and get as many people hooked on opiates and uppers as they can, because that's literally all most people in this state would have to look forward to.  I suspect most of rural America is the same way.  It isn't so much working for a living as it is working your ass off to simply not die.

So I can't criticize them one bit.


This is depressing but still probably quite truthful about the plight of many people.
To the credit of that state, however, the natural scenery in much of Tennessee is so beautiful, one could almost get high just off of that. I'm excluding West Tennessee here, naturally.
 
2014-03-05 12:15:14 PM  

Communist_Manifesto: hardinparamedic: I personally recommend succinylcholine. You'll trip balls

Sounds fun! "Despite its adverse effects, including life threatening malignant hyperthermia, hyperkalaemia, and anaphylaxis, it is perennially popular in emergency medicine because it has the fastest onset and shortest duration of action of all muscle relaxants. "


img.fark.net
 
2014-03-05 12:15:34 PM  

cwolf20: Meh. I wonder if a friend will tell me about the 3 different sleep pills he's been prescribed for the simple tiny task of sleeping at night. He's gone for a week straight several times a year unable to sleep without medicine.

At least it beats the one time a psychiatrist thought he needed something else instead of sleeping pills. That was an interesting 6 month time frame he doesn't remember anything about.  Including a job he applied for, worked for, and quit from.  Everyone there remembers him, and a few are afraid of him. He doesn't know what happened.


I had the same thing happen to a friend of mine.  He couldn't sleep, and the doctor didn't want him to have any more meds, even after he told the doctor he was in pain the doctor scoffed at him.  So he started going to these therapy sessions and ended up starting a club of his own which eventually morphed into a criminal ring and he blew up a bunch of credit card buildings on the same day he shot himself in the face.  He's fine now, it was just a really weird time for him.
 
2014-03-05 12:15:55 PM  
Golf clap to subby for headline.
 
2014-03-05 12:26:16 PM  

Hrist: I'm going to be as serious as I can be here.

If you're here, there's a good chance you're not going anywhere in life.  You work at Walmart or a fast food place or a car lot or a quik-lube oil place.  Your pay is slightly above minimum wage.  Your realistic goals in life are to not have to worry about a car breaking down or if you're going to make rent in time, and that you have a nice warm place to die.  You put in the best years of your life, and that still doesn't make the hands being held out for money that you don't have go away.  No, they just increase.  The banker man comes and says, "$100?  No, forget it, you were late.  Now it's $500."

Is it any wonder people turn to drugs?  Artificial happy is a fine substitute for no happy after so long.  If the government were smart it'd get on this train and get as many people hooked on opiates and uppers as they can, because that's literally all most people in this state would have to look forward to.  I suspect most of rural America is the same way.  It isn't so much working for a living as it is working your ass off to simply not die.

So I can't criticize them one bit.


farm1.staticflickr.com
 
2014-03-05 12:27:49 PM  

BafflerMeal: [www.entertainmentfuse.com image 323x305]


Nope, that's Kentucky.
 
2014-03-05 12:31:21 PM  
Kind of explains the Teabaggers.
 
2014-03-05 12:33:15 PM  
menschenfresser - the natural scenery in much of Tennessee is so beautiful...

I just love how people who do not have to live in rural areas always talk about how beautiful they are. Trust me, a few weeks of nothing and you would be snorting poke berries and eating pine needles to escape. I could not wait to get away from 'tha coontry' and move to a place that at least has a store within 40 miles open after 10 p.m.. Trust me, all that dreaming of 'simple rural living' is a nightmare if you want anything other than to live like the cavemen during the Pleiscene era...

As to the findings of the study, I am not surprised. No jobs, no hope, no sign of progressive intelligence, surrounded by brainwashed idiots who vote against their own interests (once they are out in the cold, they still don't grasp that those animals caused the problem, and still vote for the same weaselly vultures to represent them), and watching their 'beautiful' state being slowly destroyed by these same vultures. I don't wonder that more and more of this state's residents are not on something at all times...
 
2014-03-05 12:35:32 PM  
The complete lack of oversight over all prescription drugs across the country is appalling. Most pharmacies (here in California) don't actually check to see if you've filled a prescription from them recently before dispensing. Instead, they just run it through the person's insurance company and if the insurance doesn't come back and say "Wtf! He already filled a prescription for that recently" the pharmacy just dispenses it.

Sad /CSB time..

We had a family members who was doctor shopping for prescription pain killers. He is a young guy who has a spinal condition that causes back pain. This eventually led to him becoming a drug addict (along with all of the usual factors including lying, not being responsible, deceptiveness, genetic factors etc).

One night he tried to commit suicide by attempting to overdose on Norcos. Fortunately, he was taken to the hospital in time and he was fine. We looked at the two bottles of Norcos that he had and noticed that each bottle was for a 1 month supply of Norco and each bottle contained 100 Norcos. However, both prescriptions were filled at the SAME pharmacy 2 days apart. That's 200 Norcos from the same pharmacy in two days. (Safeway pharmacy)

A couple of us went to the pharmacy and demanded "wtf!" The pharmacist had the gall to say "We check their insurance and if the insurance doesn't deny coverage of the medication we dispense it." Because our drug addict family member had paid cash ($28 for 100 Norcos) they never even checked. The worst part of the whole thing was that they couldn't have cared less and refused to admit any wrongdoing whatsoever.

I filed a complaint with the board of pharmacology and sent them the two prescription bottles as proof. The board investigated, found wrongdoing and fined one of the pharmacists involved $1,000 and the other pharmacist $2,000. Neither pharmacist received a demerit on their license.

Because offenses that egregious only fetch mild penalties I'm not surprised that pharmacies don't care.

I fully realize that our family member is responsible for the whole fiasco and I'm not trying to insinuate that anybody else is responsible except him. I wanted to share the story to illustrate how poorly managed pharmacology is.
 
2014-03-05 12:38:42 PM  

Seat's Taken: cwolf20: Meh. I wonder if a friend will tell me about the 3 different sleep pills he's been prescribed for the simple tiny task of sleeping at night. He's gone for a week straight several times a year unable to sleep without medicine.

At least it beats the one time a psychiatrist thought he needed something else instead of sleeping pills. That was an interesting 6 month time frame he doesn't remember anything about.  Including a job he applied for, worked for, and quit from.  Everyone there remembers him, and a few are afraid of him. He doesn't know what happened.

I had the same thing happen to a friend of mine.  He couldn't sleep, and the doctor didn't want him to have any more meds, even after he told the doctor he was in pain the doctor scoffed at him.  So he started going to these therapy sessions and ended up starting a club of his own which eventually morphed into a criminal ring and he blew up a bunch of credit card buildings on the same day he shot himself in the face.  He's fine now, it was just a really weird time for him.


Dammit.. someone must turn that into a novel
 
2014-03-05 12:42:17 PM  

armor helix: The complete lack of oversight over all prescription drugs across the country is appalling. Most pharmacies (here in California) don't actually check to see if you've filled a prescription from them recently before dispensing. Instead, they just run it through the person's insurance company and if the insurance doesn't come back and say "Wtf! He already filled a prescription for that recently" the pharmacy just dispenses it.

Sad /CSB time..

We had a family members who was doctor shopping for prescription pain killers. He is a young guy who has a spinal condition that causes back pain. This eventually led to him becoming a drug addict (along with all of the usual factors including lying, not being responsible, deceptiveness, genetic factors etc).

One night he tried to commit suicide by attempting to overdose on Norcos. Fortunately, he was taken to the hospital in time and he was fine. We looked at the two bottles of Norcos that he had and noticed that each bottle was for a 1 month supply of Norco and each bottle contained 100 Norcos. However, both prescriptions were filled at the SAME pharmacy 2 days apart. That's 200 Norcos from the same pharmacy in two days. (Safeway pharmacy)

A couple of us went to the pharmacy and demanded "wtf!" The pharmacist had the gall to say "We check their insurance and if the insurance doesn't deny coverage of the medication we dispense it." Because our drug addict family member had paid cash ($28 for 100 Norcos) they never even checked. The worst part of the whole thing was that they couldn't have cared less and refused to admit any wrongdoing whatsoever.

I filed a complaint with the board of pharmacology and sent them the two prescription bottles as proof. The board investigated, found wrongdoing and fined one of the pharmacists involved $1,000 and the other pharmacist $2,000. Neither pharmacist received a demerit on their license.

Because offenses that egregious only fetch mild penalties I'm not surprised that pharmacies don't ca ...


Try Wal-mart pharmacy.  If you had a 90 day prescription with a different medicine at one point, and walk in with a 30 day for a new one.  Depending on the store, voila you have a 90 day.

Not that I'm complaining.. the test blood pressure medicine that I switched to turned out to be what I needed.  Paying 25 co-pay for a 90 day supply is a lot better than 25 for 30 through somewhere else.
 
2014-03-05 12:42:22 PM  
Well that's one more, innit.

img.fark.net
 
2014-03-05 12:42:42 PM  

TheLastFrontiersman: BafflerMeal: [www.entertainmentfuse.com image 323x305]

Nope, that's Kentucky.


A: Like there's a difference

and #2: It's the San Fernando Valley

/amused by the folks who think it's shot on location
/some decent characters, crappy show
/just drinking coffee
 
2014-03-05 12:42:56 PM  

The Stealth Hippopotamus: or

[img545.imageshack.us image 789x616]


Why for the love of Gawd do people insist on drinking Old No. 7 Varnish Remover?
 
2014-03-05 12:46:20 PM  

payattention: menschenfresser - the natural scenery in much of Tennessee is so beautiful...

I just love how people who do not have to live in rural areas always talk about how beautiful they are. Trust me, a few weeks of nothing and you would be snorting poke berries and eating pine needles to escape. I could not wait to get away from 'tha coontry' and move to a place that at least has a store within 40 miles open after 10 p.m.. Trust me, all that dreaming of 'simple rural living' is a nightmare if you want anything other than to live like the cavemen during the Pleiscene era...

As to the findings of the study, I am not surprised. No jobs, no hope, no sign of progressive intelligence, surrounded by brainwashed idiots who vote against their own interests (once they are out in the cold, they still don't grasp that those animals caused the problem, and still vote for the same weaselly vultures to represent them), and watching their 'beautiful' state being slowly destroyed by these same vultures. I don't wonder that more and more of this state's residents are not on something at all times...


Population density as inhabitants per square mile in Tennessee: 156.6
Population density as inhabitants per square mile in Minnesota: 67.14
 
2014-03-05 12:49:37 PM  

cwolf20: Meh. I wonder if a friend will tell me about the 3 different sleep pills he's been prescribed for the simple tiny task of sleeping at night. He's gone for a week straight several times a year unable to sleep without medicine.

At least it beats the one time a psychiatrist thought he needed something else instead of sleeping pills. That was an interesting 6 month time frame he doesn't remember anything about.  Including a job he applied for, worked for, and quit from.  Everyone there remembers him, and a few are afraid of him. He doesn't know what happened.


I completely understand this.  Nothing other then days worth of sleepless exhaustion, or 300mg of Seroquel will get me to sleep.  Most people get knocked the fark out by 25-50mg.  I hate that my neuro-biology is this way, as I'd love to be able to take short naps anywhere, or nod off naturally. Playing with my diet, meditation, melatonin, valerian root/skullcap, "sleepytime" teas, etc have not worked.  Trazodone does nothing.  It's a nightmare, because I know I can't be on Seroquel forever.

On the flip side, I can wake up and be completely alert and ready for the day within 2 minutes of waking - no caffeine needed. That's kinda nice.
 
2014-03-05 12:50:30 PM  

armor helix: I fully realize that our family member is responsible for the whole fiasco and I'm not trying to insinuate that anybody else is responsible except him. I wanted to share the story to illustrate how poorly managed pharmacology is.


except that biatching at the pharmacists for dispensing the client's legal prescription is as wrong as biatching out the clerk at the liquor store for continuing to sell your alcoholic dad whiskey.  or biatching out the cashier at wal-mart for continuing to sell your obese mother twinkies.

should the pharm be responsible?  perhaps, and if wrongdoing was found, then a fine might be warranted, but the issue isn't that the pharm in question dispensed the pills.

the issue is that your family member is a farking pill head.  biatching the pharm out helped no one.  stop looking for a scapegoat and get your family member some help.
 
2014-03-05 12:54:42 PM  

hardinparamedic: Communist_Manifesto: hardinparamedic: I personally recommend succinylcholine. You'll trip balls

Sounds fun! "Despite its adverse effects, including life threatening malignant hyperthermia, hyperkalaemia, and anaphylaxis, it is perennially popular in emergency medicine because it has the fastest onset and shortest duration of action of all muscle relaxants. "

[img.fark.net image 318x240]


Use your words!
 
2014-03-05 12:56:50 PM  

armor helix: The complete lack of oversight over all prescription drugs across the country is appalling. Most pharmacies (here in California) don't actually check to see if you've filled a prescription from them recently before dispensing. Instead, they just run it through the person's insurance company and if the insurance doesn't come back and say "Wtf! He already filled a prescription for that recently" the pharmacy just dispenses it.

Sad /CSB time..

We had a family members who was doctor shopping for prescription pain killers. He is a young guy who has a spinal condition that causes back pain. This eventually led to him becoming a drug addict (along with all of the usual factors including lying, not being responsible, deceptiveness, genetic factors etc).

One night he tried to commit suicide by attempting to overdose on Norcos. Fortunately, he was taken to the hospital in time and he was fine. We looked at the two bottles of Norcos that he had and noticed that each bottle was for a 1 month supply of Norco and each bottle contained 100 Norcos. However, both prescriptions were filled at the SAME pharmacy 2 days apart. That's 200 Norcos from the same pharmacy in two days. (Safeway pharmacy)

A couple of us went to the pharmacy and demanded "wtf!" The pharmacist had the gall to say "We check their insurance and if the insurance doesn't deny coverage of the medication we dispense it." Because our drug addict family member had paid cash ($28 for 100 Norcos) they never even checked. The worst part of the whole thing was that they couldn't have cared less and refused to admit any wrongdoing whatsoever.

I filed a complaint with the board of pharmacology and sent them the two prescription bottles as proof. The board investigated, found wrongdoing and fined one of the pharmacists involved $1,000 and the other pharmacist $2,000. Neither pharmacist received a demerit on their license.

Because offenses that egregious only fetch mild penalties I'm not surprised that pharmacies don't care.

I fully realize that our family member is responsible for the whole fiasco and I'm not trying to insinuate that anybody else is responsible except him. I wanted to share the story to illustrate how poorly managed pharmacology is.


Be careful what you wish for. In Texas, there is a good chance you family member could get 20 years in Huntsville.
 
2014-03-05 01:04:13 PM  
My dad was a pharmaceutical researcher, so I am very thankful he instilled in me a bit of fear and a ton of respect for prescription drugs. I try to never take a pill for anything if I can avoid it. I've been lucky to never have any major medical issues.

My wife had some minor foot surgery, and was so loopy and farked up from the painkillers, she opted for living lucidly with the pain and took OTC pain meds instead.
 
2014-03-05 01:11:09 PM  

anuran: Why for the love of Gawd do people insist on drinking Old No. 7 Varnish Remover?


www.quickmeme.com

neversubmit: Use your words!


All according to plan.
 
2014-03-05 01:15:57 PM  
TN native here.  Lived in the country for seven years now after 10 in a city.  Got a nice little house but way out in the county so there are trade offs of privacy vs. convenience.  I do plan on moving back to a city, but I admit there are lots and lots of days I love laying on my deck, swimming, grilling and looking at the mountains.  Not a brutal life.  Dude did get murdered about a mile from my house the other week so there's that.

Meth is in the country, crack is in the city, whatca gonna do?
 
2014-03-05 01:23:28 PM  

The Stealth Hippopotamus: or

[img545.imageshack.us image 789x616]


Only as long as your reserve isn't running low on a Sunday.
 
2014-03-05 01:29:33 PM  

VOCSL5: cwolf20: Meh. I wonder if a friend will tell me about the 3 different sleep pills he's been prescribed for the simple tiny task of sleeping at night. He's gone for a week straight several times a year unable to sleep without medicine.

At least it beats the one time a psychiatrist thought he needed something else instead of sleeping pills. That was an interesting 6 month time frame he doesn't remember anything about.  Including a job he applied for, worked for, and quit from.  Everyone there remembers him, and a few are afraid of him. He doesn't know what happened.

I completely understand this.  Nothing other then days worth of sleepless exhaustion, or 300mg of Seroquel will get me to sleep.  Most people get knocked the fark out by 25-50mg.  I hate that my neuro-biology is this way, as I'd love to be able to take short naps anywhere, or nod off naturally. Playing with my diet, meditation, melatonin, valerian root/skullcap, "sleepytime" teas, etc have not worked.  Trazodone does nothing.  It's a nightmare, because I know I can't be on Seroquel forever.

On the flip side, I can wake up and be completely alert and ready for the day within 2 minutes of waking - no caffeine needed. That's kinda nice.


Did you also have the issue where when you do get to sleep, sometimes you wake up in the back of your van.  In your parents' driveway. (he lives there right now, their request.  his rising blood pressure from them) With a quarter of a tank missing from the full tank you know you had 5 minutes before you parked and went in for the night?

He had also been seen driving with his eyes completely closed and his head facing toward his lap.  Stopping at signs, and lights, turning, avoiding weaving or hitting anyone.

The sleeping pills counter that effect too.  He says that's a good thing.  Sleep driving scares him every time he finds evidence of it.
 
2014-03-05 01:41:12 PM  

hardinparamedic: anuran: Why for the love of Gawd do people insist on drinking Old No. 7 Varnish Remover?

[www.quickmeme.com image 500x377]

neversubmit: Use your words!

All according to plan.


Ok thanks.

/grumbles
//you young people and your clever references.
 
2014-03-05 01:44:37 PM  

frepnog: armor helix: I fully realize that our family member is responsible for the whole fiasco and I'm not trying to insinuate that anybody else is responsible except him. I wanted to share the story to illustrate how poorly managed pharmacology is.

except that biatching at the pharmacists for dispensing the client's legal prescription is as wrong as biatching out the clerk at the liquor store for continuing to sell your alcoholic dad whiskey.  or biatching out the cashier at wal-mart for continuing to sell your obese mother twinkies.

should the pharm be responsible?  perhaps, and if wrongdoing was found, then a fine might be warranted, but the issue isn't that the pharm in question dispensed the pills.

the issue is that your family member is a farking pill head.  biatching the pharm out helped no one.  stop looking for a scapegoat and get your family member some help.


If you had taken the 18.7 seconds required to read the entire post you would have seen where it said that I realize it was the family members fault. However, the pharmacy is legally required to check medication history and they don't. Hence the point of the story.

I realize it is probably very difficult for someone like you to read a whole post BEFORE making yourself look like a jackass.

Informed jackass > uninformed jackass
 
2014-03-05 01:51:02 PM  

armor helix: If you had taken the 18.7 seconds required to read the entire post you would have seen where it said that I realize it was the family members fault. However, the pharmacy is legally required to check medication history and they don't. Hence the point of the story.

I realize it is probably very difficult for someone like you to read a whole post BEFORE making yourself look like a jackass.


if you had taken the time to read what I actually posted, realize that I quoted the important part of your post (the part where you say it was the family member's fault) and also read the part where I even say "if the pharm was in the wrong, they deserve a fine" then you would know that your post HERE was stupid and superfluous.

Because none of what you said changes this from being accurate-

frepnog: should the pharm be responsible? perhaps, and if wrongdoing was found, then a fine might be warranted, but the issue isn't that the pharm in question dispensed the pills.

the issue is that your family member is a farking pill head. biatching the pharm out helped no one. stop looking for a scapegoat and get your family member some help.

 
2014-03-05 02:01:52 PM  

cwolf20: VOCSL5: cwolf20: Meh. I wonder if a friend will tell me about the 3 different sleep pills ......

.........Did you also have the issue where when you do get to sleep, sometimes you wake up in the back of your van.  In your parents' driveway. (he lives there right now, their request.  his rising blood pressure from them) With a quarter of a tank missing from the full tank you know you had 5 minutes before you parked and went in for the night?

He had also been seen driving with his eyes completely closed and his head facing toward his lap.  Stopping at signs, and lights, turning, avoiding weaving or hitting anyone.

The sleeping pills counter that effect too.  He says that's a good thing.  Sleep driving scares him every time he finds evidence of it.


I've never had sleep-amnesia from Seroquel.  What you described really seems more like Ambien Walrus territory.
Actually, I take that back a tiny bit.  I do get a little sleep amnesia, but it only pertains to the moment I fall asleep.  I never remember when I fall asleep.  It's happened while I've been reading a book or watching something on my laptop as I lie and wait for the Seroquel to kick in: one minute I'm reading/watching, the next I'm waking up to the sunrise spilling through my window and messing with whatever I was just dreaming.
The Ambien Walrus-type stuff you described about your friend scares the fark out of me, and I swear I will never try it.  I'd rather go getting 4 hours of sleep every 3 days than mess with that.  The Reddit AW threads are an entertaining (but scary) read - I recommend checking it out.
 
2014-03-05 02:01:54 PM  

Hrist: I'm going to be as serious as I can be here.

If you're here, there's a good chance you're not going anywhere in life.  You work at Walmart or a fast food place or a car lot or a quik-lube oil place.  Your pay is slightly above minimum wage.  Your realistic goals in life are to not have to worry about a car breaking down or if you're going to make rent in time, and that you have a nice warm place to die.  You put in the best years of your life, and that still doesn't make the hands being held out for money that you don't have go away.  No, they just increase.  The banker man comes and says, "$100?  No, forget it, you were late.  Now it's $500."

Is it any wonder people turn to drugs?  Artificial happy is a fine substitute for no happy after so long.  If the government were smart it'd get on this train and get as many people hooked on opiates and uppers as they can, because that's literally all most people in this state would have to look forward to.  I suspect most of rural America is the same way.  It isn't so much working for a living as it is working your ass off to simply not die.

So I can't criticize them one bit.


Sad, but so very true.

/Tennessean
 
2014-03-05 02:13:45 PM  
HOTY candidate, as far as I'm concerned. I snerked heartily.
 
2014-03-05 02:25:15 PM  

Ennuipoet: As a Tennessee native whose family still resides, I understand completely.  You need a little something to make the place tolerable.

Weed would do it, but that would be illegal.


Which part are you from?  Wayne county,where I'm from, has a lot of great fishing spots and is mostly farmland.  I can understand a strong dislike for Memphis, Nashville, Knoxville, Bristol, or *shudder* Rock City.
 
2014-03-05 02:29:06 PM  

busy chillin': Summoner101: That's why I listen to Western

[eil.com image 500x502]

why not both?


It doesn't work out so well.
fc04.deviantart.net
 
2014-03-05 02:34:04 PM  

frepnog: armor helix: If you had taken the 18.7 seconds required to read the entire post you would have seen where it said that I realize it was the family members fault. However, the pharmacy is legally required to check medication history and they don't. Hence the point of the story.

I realize it is probably very difficult for someone like you to read a whole post BEFORE making yourself look like a jackass.

if you had taken the time to read what I actually posted, realize that I quoted the important part of your post (the part where you say it was the family member's fault) and also read the part where I even say "if the pharm was in the wrong, they deserve a fine" then you would know that your post HERE was stupid and superfluous.

Because none of what you said changes this from being accurate-

frepnog: should the pharm be responsible? perhaps, and if wrongdoing was found, then a fine might be warranted, but the issue isn't that the pharm in question dispensed the pills.

the issue is that your family member is a farking pill head. biatching the pharm out helped no one. stop looking for a scapegoat and get your family member some help.


Wrong again Captain Douche.

I wasn't looking for a scapegoat. I also didn't "biatch out" the pharmacy. I filed a complaint and they got fined. Your attempt to insinuate that I'm trying to find a scapegoat or that I don't realize my family member is a "pill head" are inaccurate and an obvious troll.

Go crawl back under your bridge.
 
2014-03-05 02:34:16 PM  

FTDA: Which part are you from?  Wayne county,where I'm from, has a lot of great fishing spots and is mostly farmland.  I can understand a strong dislike for Memphis, Nashville, Knoxville, Bristol, or *shudder* Rock City.



Near (shudder) Chattanooga.

I don't visit home often.
 
2014-03-05 02:39:47 PM  

VOCSL5: cwolf20: VOCSL5: cwolf20: Meh. I wonder if a friend will tell me about the 3 different sleep pills ......

.........Did you also have the issue where when you do get to sleep, sometimes you wake up in the back of your van.  In your parents' driveway. (he lives there right now, their request.  his rising blood pressure from them) With a quarter of a tank missing from the full tank you know you had 5 minutes before you parked and went in for the night?

He had also been seen driving with his eyes completely closed and his head facing toward his lap.  Stopping at signs, and lights, turning, avoiding weaving or hitting anyone.

The sleeping pills counter that effect too.  He says that's a good thing.  Sleep driving scares him every time he finds evidence of it.

I've never had sleep-amnesia from Seroquel.  What you described really seems more like Ambien Walrus territory.
Actually, I take that back a tiny bit.  I do get a little sleep amnesia, but it only pertains to the moment I fall asleep.  I never remember when I fall asleep.  It's happened while I've been reading a book or watching something on my laptop as I lie and wait for the Seroquel to kick in: one minute I'm reading/watching, the next I'm waking up to the sunrise spilling through my window and messing with whatever I was just dreaming.
The Ambien Walrus-type stuff you described about your friend scares the fark out of me, and I swear I will never try it.  I'd rather go getting 4 hours of sleep every 3 days than mess with that.  The Reddit AW threads are an entertaining (but scary) read - I recommend checking it out.


Oddly enough, Ambien isn't one he was put on.

My mother was prescribed it for one night for a specific medical ailment.  A mild prescription.  It scared her that she was contemplating taking a customer's cell phone in the next table over at a restaurant, and shoving it down the person's throat while they gargled in fear.

Turn off your cell phones or silence them at restaurants. You never know who might give into their impulses.

A gamer friend has no choice but to be on it.  Luckily, he is a gamer. So when he takes it at night, he's wandering around WOW instead of the city.  However, he leveled a new character up to max and had to create a new one because he didn't remember leveling it.
 
2014-03-05 02:44:50 PM  

Hrist: I'm going to be as serious as I can be here.

If you're here, there's a good chance you're not going anywhere in life.  You work at Walmart or a fast food place or a car lot or a quik-lube oil place.  Your pay is slightly above minimum wage.  Your realistic goals in life are to not have to worry about a car breaking down or if you're going to make rent in time, and that you have a nice warm place to die.  You put in the best years of your life, and that still doesn't make the hands being held out for money that you don't have go away.  No, they just increase.  The banker man comes and says, "$100?  No, forget it, you were late.  Now it's $500."

Is it any wonder people turn to drugs?  Artificial happy is a fine substitute for no happy after so long.  If the government were smart it'd get on this train and get as many people hooked on opiates and uppers as they can, because that's literally all most people in this state would have to look forward to.  I suspect most of rural America is the same way.  It isn't so much working for a living as it is working your ass off to simply not die.

So I can't criticize them one bit.


See what I mean Ennuipoet?Look at his profile, Knoxville.
 
2014-03-05 02:51:59 PM  

armor helix: A couple of us went to the pharmacy and demanded "wtf!" The pharmacist had the gall to say "We check their insurance and if the insurance doesn't deny coverage of the medication we dispense it." Because our drug addict family member had paid cash ($28 for 100 Norcos) they never even checked.


armor helix: I also didn't "biatch out" the pharmacy. I filed a complaint and they got fined. Your attempt to insinuate that I'm trying to find a scapegoat or that I don't realize my family member is a "pill head" are inaccurate and an obvious troll.

not sure what to tell you here, dude.  YOU said it, not me.
 
2014-03-05 02:59:22 PM  

frepnog: armor helix: A couple of us went to the pharmacy and demanded "wtf!" The pharmacist had the gall to say "We check their insurance and if the insurance doesn't deny coverage of the medication we dispense it." Because our drug addict family member had paid cash ($28 for 100 Norcos) they never even checked.

armor helix: I also didn't "biatch out" the pharmacy. I filed a complaint and they got fined. Your attempt to insinuate that I'm trying to find a scapegoat or that I don't realize my family member is a "pill head" are inaccurate and an obvious troll.

not sure what to tell you here, dude.  YOU said it, not me.


It's readily apparent that your trying to mince words by becoming intentionally vague.
Take your douchebaggery somewhere else.
You aren't going to do anything besides make yourself look like a fool by calling my family member a pill head. We already know that.
This article is about people abusing prescriptions.
 
2014-03-05 03:04:31 PM  

Ennuipoet: FTDA: Which part are you from?  Wayne county,where I'm from, has a lot of great fishing spots and is mostly farmland.  I can understand a strong dislike for Memphis, Nashville, Knoxville, Bristol, or *shudder* Rock City.


Near (shudder) Chattanooga.

I don't visit home often.


I haven't been back to Tennessee in 10 years.
 
2014-03-05 03:19:51 PM  

armor helix: It's readily apparent that your trying to mince words by becoming intentionally vague.
Take your douchebaggery somewhere else.
You aren't going to do anything besides make yourself look like a fool by calling my family member a pill head. We already know that.
This article is about people abusing prescriptions.


you mad?

sorry, you said in your original post that "a couple of us went to the pharm all WTF!"

and then later claimed you simply filed a complaint.

step away from the keyboard.  it's time to stop posting.

and yep, a person that fills their narc script and then fills the refill is a pill head.  It's ok, I have a few in my family too.
 
2014-03-05 03:21:51 PM  

FTDA: Hrist: I'm going to be as serious as I can be here.

If you're here, there's a good chance you're not going anywhere in life.  You work at Walmart or a fast food place or a car lot or a quik-lube oil place.  Your pay is slightly above minimum wage.  Your realistic goals in life are to not have to worry about a car breaking down or if you're going to make rent in time, and that you have a nice warm place to die.  You put in the best years of your life, and that still doesn't make the hands being held out for money that you don't have go away.  No, they just increase.  The banker man comes and says, "$100?  No, forget it, you were late.  Now it's $500."

Is it any wonder people turn to drugs?  Artificial happy is a fine substitute for no happy after so long.  If the government were smart it'd get on this train and get as many people hooked on opiates and uppers as they can, because that's literally all most people in this state would have to look forward to.  I suspect most of rural America is the same way.  It isn't so much working for a living as it is working your ass off to simply not die.

So I can't criticize them one bit.

See what I mean Ennuipoet?Look at his profile, Knoxville.


I spent five wasted years in Knoxville, the town where hope goes to die.  Attempt no landing there.

/Love east TN otherwise
 
2014-03-05 03:29:46 PM  

frepnog: armor helix: It's readily apparent that your trying to mince words by becoming intentionally vague.
Take your douchebaggery somewhere else.
You aren't going to do anything besides make yourself look like a fool by calling my family member a pill head. We already know that.
This article is about people abusing prescriptions.

you mad?

sorry, you said in your original post that "a couple of us went to the pharm all WTF!"

and then later claimed you simply filed a complaint.

step away from the keyboard.  it's time to stop posting.

and yep, a person that fills their narc script and then fills the refill is a pill head.  It's ok, I have a few in my family too.


Wtf as in "wtf Is going on here" not "wtf you MF I'm going to kill you guys". I don't really see the point in debating semantics with you. The board of pharmacology agreed with us and issued fines. But let's face it, you aren't interested in any of that. You're interested in trolling and playing semantics.

Oh, and no I'm not mad at all. I've realized that the internet is full of people who troll because they know they're out of face punching range. It's an unfortunate fact of life, but it is what it is.
 
2014-03-05 03:32:28 PM  

frepnog: armor helix: It's readily apparent that your trying to mince words by becoming intentionally vague.
Take your douchebaggery somewhere else.
You aren't going to do anything besides make yourself look like a fool by calling my family member a pill head. We already know that.
This article is about people abusing prescriptions.

you mad?

sorry, you said in your original post that "a couple of us went to the pharm all WTF!"

and then later claimed you simply filed a complaint.

step away from the keyboard.  it's time to stop posting.

and yep, a person that fills their narc script and then fills the refill is a pill head.  It's ok, I have a few in my family too.


Not to highjack a discussion, but I fail to see how being all wtf with the pharmacy precludes one from then filing a complaint against this pharmacy when it transpires that they renew narcos prescriptions without checking the last time they filled  one for the same person. Hell, my pharmacy won't even do that with my blood-pressure meds.

He never claimed his family member was not a pill-head or that said family member was not responsible for his own actions. This does not mean the pharmacists did not act irresponsibly, as demonstrated by the fact that they were fined.
 
2014-03-05 03:39:19 PM  

Hrist: I'm going to be as serious as I can be here.

If you're here, there's a good chance you're not going anywhere in life.  You work at Walmart or a fast food place or a car lot or a quik-lube oil place.  Your pay is slightly above minimum wage.  Your realistic goals in life are to not have to worry about a car breaking down or if you're going to make rent in time, and that you have a nice warm place to die.  You put in the best years of your life, and that still doesn't make the hands being held out for money that you don't have go away.  No, they just increase.  The banker man comes and says, "$100?  No, forget it, you were late.  Now it's $500."

Is it any wonder people turn to drugs?  Artificial happy is a fine substitute for no happy after so long.  If the government were smart it'd get on this train and get as many people hooked on opiates and uppers as they can, because that's literally all most people in this state would have to look forward to.  I suspect most of rural America is the same way.  It isn't so much working for a living as it is working your ass off to simply not die.

So I can't criticize them one bit.


Sad but true. If you look around and decide that isn't for you, you usually do what I did and flee to the booming Nashville IT industry.
 
2014-03-05 03:40:37 PM  

capt.hollister: frepnog: armor helix: It's readily apparent that your trying to mince words by becoming intentionally vague.
Take your douchebaggery somewhere else.
You aren't going to do anything besides make yourself look like a fool by calling my family member a pill head. We already know that.
This article is about people abusing prescriptions.

you mad?

sorry, you said in your original post that "a couple of us went to the pharm all WTF!"

and then later claimed you simply filed a complaint.

step away from the keyboard.  it's time to stop posting.

and yep, a person that fills their narc script and then fills the refill is a pill head.  It's ok, I have a few in my family too.

Not to highjack a discussion, but I fail to see how being all wtf with the pharmacy precludes one from then filing a complaint against this pharmacy when it transpires that they renew narcos prescriptions without checking the last time they filled  one for the same person. Hell, my pharmacy won't even do that with my blood-pressure meds.

He never claimed his family member was not a pill-head or that said family member was not responsible for his own actions. This does not mean the pharmacists did not act irresponsibly, as demonstrated by the fact that they were fined.


Thank you!
 
2014-03-05 03:41:26 PM  
capt.hollister:
Not to highjack a discussion, but I fail to see how being all wtf with the pharmacy precludes one from then filing a complaint against this pharmacy when it transpires that they renew narcos prescriptions without checking the last time they filled  one for the same person. Hell, my pharmacy won't even do that with my blood-pressure meds.

He never claimed his family member was not a pill-head or that said family member was not responsible for his own actions. This does not mean the pharmacists did not act irresponsibly, as demonstrated by the fact that they were fined.


none of that has anything to do whatever with what I said.  i feel like I'm taking crazy pills here.

i quoted his original post highlighting that he said it was all on the family member.  I simply said that biatching out the pharm helped no one, and it didn't.  sure they got fined, they shouldn't have filled the scrip, but it doesn't change the family member's behavior.  so, the pharm got fined.  next time he'll use a different pharm.

the family member in question's BEHAVIOR was not addressed.

and then of course the guy here lied and said he didn't biatch the pharm out, just filed a complaint, and I quoted back to him exactly what he said.

both of you should probably stop posting.
 
2014-03-05 03:48:54 PM  

twistedmetal: The other two have to hide their meds when the third visits.


LOL. This.
 
2014-03-05 03:52:55 PM  

frepnog: capt.hollister:
Not to highjack a discussion, but I fail to see how being all wtf with the pharmacy precludes one from then filing a complaint against this pharmacy when it transpires that they renew narcos prescriptions without checking the last time they filled  one for the same person. Hell, my pharmacy won't even do that with my blood-pressure meds.

He never claimed his family member was not a pill-head or that said family member was not responsible for his own actions. This does not mean the pharmacists did not act irresponsibly, as demonstrated by the fact that they were fined.

none of that has anything to do whatever with what I said.  i feel like I'm taking crazy pills here.

i quoted his original post highlighting that he said it was all on the family member.  I simply said that biatching out the pharm helped no one, and it didn't.  sure they got fined, they shouldn't have filled the scrip, but it doesn't change the family member's behavior.  so, the pharm got fined.  next time he'll use a different pharm.

the family member in question's BEHAVIOR was not addressed.

and then of course the guy here lied and said he didn't biatch the pharm out, just filed a complaint, and I quoted back to him exactly what he said.

both of you should probably stop posting.


Oh, look. More back peddling and semantic games. Color me shocked.

/not really
 
2014-03-05 03:58:09 PM  

VOCSL5: The Ambien Walrus-type stuff you described about your friend scares the fark out of me, and I swear I will never try it. I'd rather go getting 4 hours of sleep every 3 days than mess with that. The Reddit AW threads are an entertaining (but scary) read - I recommend checking it out.


My ex husband liked to stay up and play with the Ambien walrus.  He thought it was a fun little trip and would take them and then stay up playing video games instead of trying to sleep.

Until one night that he took an Ambien and forgot he had taken it, so took another.  Then the Ambien walrus told him it would be fun to take two more.  That's the last thing he remembered before waking up in the mental institution where he'd been checked in (by me) for a suspected suicide attempt.

He had a freshly-filled bottle of Ambien when I went to bed that night.  When I woke up, there were 16 missing.  He had taken them all and then gone to bed. He was unresponsive completely when I woke up the next morning.

He "woke" in the ER and agreed to go to the mental hospital as he agreed at the time that it had been an attempt to end his own life.

Apparently, he was asleep for all of that, and has no memory of any of it until he ACTUALLY woke up the NEXT morning and was committed on a 72 hour hold.

Ambien will fark you up.  And they'll give it to you like candy.  He actually had to tell the docs at the mental hospital that he didn't want to take any, because despite why he was there, they still gave him a dose of Ambien every night before bed.  The VA also tried to give him a prescription for the stuff, and made him take the prescription (that he never filled) over his objections.

Myself, I won't touch the stuff, or anything stronger than an advil.  I had major surgery a few years ago and chose to tough it out for a few days rather than take stronger meds, even though it meant no sleep and a ton of pain, just for fear of becoming one of the millions of addicts who got started from some minor ouchie.
 
2014-03-05 04:11:32 PM  

Freudian_slipknot: VOCSL5: The Ambien Walrus-type stuff you described about your friend scares the fark out of me, and I swear I will never try it. I'd rather go getting 4 hours of sleep every 3 days than mess with that. The Reddit AW threads are an entertaining (but scary) read - I recommend checking it out.

My ex husband liked to stay up and play with the Ambien walrus.  He thought it was a fun little trip and would take them and then stay up playing video games instead of trying to sleep.

Until one night that he took an Ambien and forgot he had taken it, so took another.  Then the Ambien walrus told him it would be fun to take two more.  That's the last thing he remembered before waking up in the mental institution where he'd been checked in (by me) for a suspected suicide attempt.

He had a freshly-filled bottle of Ambien when I went to bed that night.  When I woke up, there were 16 missing.  He had taken them all and then gone to bed. He was unresponsive completely when I woke up the next morning.

He "woke" in the ER and agreed to go to the mental hospital as he agreed at the time that it had been an attempt to end his own life.

Apparently, he was asleep for all of that, and has no memory of any of it until he ACTUALLY woke up the NEXT morning and was committed on a 72 hour hold.

Ambien will fark you up.  And they'll give it to you like candy.  He actually had to tell the docs at the mental hospital that he didn't want to take any, because despite why he was there, they still gave him a dose of Ambien every night before bed.  The VA also tried to give him a prescription for the stuff, and made him take the prescription (that he never filled) over his objections.

Myself, I won't touch the stuff, or anything stronger than an advil.  I had major surgery a few years ago and chose to tough it out for a few days rather than take stronger meds, even though it meant no sleep and a ton of pain, just for fear of becoming one of the millions of addicts who got started from some minor ouchie.


I'm really sorry to hear that. Did he get help?
 
2014-03-05 04:24:37 PM  

armor helix: I'm really sorry to hear that. Did he get help?


He did, for a while. He decided that all of his unhappiness stemmed from his job so he decided not to work anymore.  Ever.

And then he decided that the anti-depressants weren't helping, so he stopped them.

And then he decided that it was the burden of having to maintain relationships with friends that made him unhappy so he stopped that.

And then he decided that it was having to be monogamous that made him unhappy.  So he stopped that.

And then he decided that our marriage was the thing that made him unhappy, because there was nothing left to blame, so he up and left.

Haven't heard from him since.  If he's still alive, I doubt it's an existence that matters in any meaningful way.
 
2014-03-05 04:38:32 PM  

FTDA: Ennuipoet: As a Tennessee native whose family still resides, I understand completely.  You need a little something to make the place tolerable.

Weed would do it, but that would be illegal.

Which part are you from?  Wayne county,where I'm from, has a lot of great fishing spots and is mostly farmland.  I can understand a strong dislike for Memphis, Nashville, Knoxville, Bristol, or *shudder* Rock City.


Howdy neighbor!  I grew up in Lawrence County.  Very similar.  Not warped at all aside from a love of the weed.

Live just North of Nashville now.
 
2014-03-05 04:39:45 PM  
Dealing in illegal narcotics could get you into trouble with the law...

static.tvgcdn.net
 
2014-03-05 05:00:26 PM  

FumblingTowardsSanity: FTDA: Ennuipoet: As a Tennessee native whose family still resides, I understand completely.  You need a little something to make the place tolerable.

Weed would do it, but that would be illegal.

Which part are you from?  Wayne county,where I'm from, has a lot of great fishing spots and is mostly farmland.  I can understand a strong dislike for Memphis, Nashville, Knoxville, Bristol, or *shudder* Rock City.

Howdy neighbor!  I grew up in Lawrence County.  Very similar.  Not warped at all aside from a love of the weed.

Live just North of Nashville now.


Howdy back!  Other than weed and 'shine, Wayne county doesn't have a drug problem.  Sure, there are a few chucklheads out there doing the hard stuff; but not many.
 
2014-03-05 06:25:27 PM  

Freudian_slipknot: VOCSL5:


I'm very sorry you had to go through with that - but I appreciate you telling me the tale, as it further reinforces my attitude toward Ambien.  I'm very happy with the Seroquel, and I dread the day they tell me I've been on it long enough and start to ween me off.... though I know it won't be painful or anything... it's mostly just that I'll be out of the normal loop that most people are in.  Instead of a 24 hour day, mine will be about a 50 hour day, with about 4-6 hours of sleep in there somewhere.

Again, I'm very sorry to hear about your experience, but I'm glad it sounds like thinks are on the upswing for you guys.
 
2014-03-05 06:42:55 PM  

VOCSL5: Freudian_slipknot: VOCSL5:

I'm very sorry you had to go through with that - but I appreciate you telling me the tale, as it further reinforces my attitude toward Ambien.  I'm very happy with the Seroquel, and I dread the day they tell me I've been on it long enough and start to ween me off.... though I know it won't be painful or anything... it's mostly just that I'll be out of the normal loop that most people are in.  Instead of a 24 hour day, mine will be about a 50 hour day, with about 4-6 hours of sleep in there somewhere.

Again, I'm very sorry to hear about your experience, but I'm glad it sounds like thinks are on the upswing for you guys.


Nah, frankly I would have been better off in the long term, financially and emotionally, if the overdose had killed him.  However, Ambien is apparently extraordinarily hard to overdose on as it turns out.  Lucky for him, I suppose, unless he hasn't found the joy he thought he'd find from farking everything he could get his penis into and running away from home.
 
2014-03-05 07:25:10 PM  

Hrist: I'm going to be as serious as I can be here.

If you're here, there's a good chance you're not going anywhere in life.  You work at Walmart or a fast food place or a car lot or a quik-lube oil place.  Your pay is slightly above minimum wage.  Your realistic goals in life are to not have to worry about a car breaking down or if you're going to make rent in time, and that you have a nice warm place to die.  You put in the best years of your life, and that still doesn't make the hands being held out for money that you don't have go away.  No, they just increase.  The banker man comes and says, "$100?  No, forget it, you were late.  Now it's $500."

Is it any wonder people turn to drugs?  Artificial happy is a fine substitute for no happy after so long.  If the government were smart it'd get on this train and get as many people hooked on opiates and uppers as they can, because that's literally all most people in this state would have to look forward to.  I suspect most of rural America is the same way.  It isn't so much working for a living as it is working your ass off to simply not die.

So I can't criticize them one bit.


That seems to sum up my impressions of the time I spent in W Va quite nicely as well.:/
I'm equally sure that, just as in Martinsburg (which town I love to give s**t), there are plenty of good people there.
 
2014-03-05 07:27:17 PM  

wigginiggins: people hurting their animals to get their hands on the pills


dontwanttoliveonthisplanetanymore.jpg
 
2014-03-05 08:16:53 PM  

frepnog: capt.hollister:
Not to highjack a discussion, but I fail to see how being all wtf with the pharmacy precludes one from then filing a complaint against this pharmacy when it transpires that they renew narcos prescriptions without checking the last time they filled  one for the same person. Hell, my pharmacy won't even do that with my blood-pressure meds.

He never claimed his family member was not a pill-head or that said family member was not responsible for his own actions. This does not mean the pharmacists did not act irresponsibly, as demonstrated by the fact that they were fined.

none of that has anything to do whatever with what I said.  i feel like I'm taking crazy pills here.

i quoted his original post highlighting that he said it was all on the family member.  I simply said that biatching out the pharm helped no one, and it didn't.  sure they got fined, they shouldn't have filled the scrip, but it doesn't change the family member's behavior.  so, the pharm got fined.  next time he'll use a different pharm.

the family member in question's BEHAVIOR was not addressed.

and then of course the guy here lied and said he didn't biatch the pharm out, just filed a complaint, and I quoted back to him exactly what he said.

both of you should probably stop posting.


Oh ouch, you sure showed me.

Now, in the civilized world it is possible to wtf people without biatching at them. Such non-biatching wtf can even be followed by an official complaint through, you know, official channels. But, of course, it is entirely possible that you do not inhabit such a world and consider that those who claim they do are liars.

Surely, I will endure many a sleepless night as I ponder and question my decision to post despite your suggestion that I refrain from doing so.  Or not.
 
2014-03-06 12:29:11 AM  
Ridiculous
 
2014-03-06 02:46:00 AM  
What happens next is people like me who power puke when they try to take nsaids because we have farked up stomachs are told to fark off and die when we have chronic pain conditions and x rays to prove it.

I had to send the farking network an email asking them if they wanted me to complain to the newspaper or my congress critter 1st. They immediately began kissing my butt.

And I live in Ohio and I doubt our drug abuse is so bad. However, I did live a year in Chattanooga once and all of those things were apparent to me then and can be said of Ohio now. Also, our schools are bad, the kids don't learn anything and they have no hope of surviving collage on what they learn in our schools. That 'You can be anything you want' is a lie we tell these kids. They know it and we know it. They can be a clerk at Wal-Mart and go on food stamps because what it is here making mercy to nothing. They can heat one room in winter because the aid program is giving less for heat and cheap housing doesn't have insulation.

What is wrong with letting people have some thing to take the edge off of life anyhow? When you know all you will ever be is a mouse on a treadmill, some pain relief might be excusable.
 
2014-03-06 05:02:29 AM  

VOCSL5: cwolf20: Meh. I wonder if a friend will tell me about the 3 different sleep pills he's been prescribed for the simple tiny task of sleeping at night. He's gone for a week straight several times a year unable to sleep without medicine.

At least it beats the one time a psychiatrist thought he needed something else instead of sleeping pills. That was an interesting 6 month time frame he doesn't remember anything about.  Including a job he applied for, worked for, and quit from.  Everyone there remembers him, and a few are afraid of him. He doesn't know what happened.

I completely understand this.  Nothing other then days worth of sleepless exhaustion, or 300mg of Seroquel will get me to sleep.  Most people get knocked the fark out by 25-50mg.  I hate that my neuro-biology is this way, as I'd love to be able to take short naps anywhere, or nod off naturally. Playing with my diet, meditation, melatonin, valerian root/skullcap, "sleepytime" teas, etc have not worked.  Trazodone does nothing.  It's a nightmare, because I know I can't be on Seroquel forever.

On the flip side, I can wake up and be completely alert and ready for the day within 2 minutes of waking - no caffeine needed. That's kinda nice.


Have you tried biphasic or polyphasic sleep? I realize many schedules can't accommodate multiple sleeping periods, but it helps me greatly. I can only sleep in about 3 hour increments. If I were to sleep more at once, I'd feel less rested. Drugs just make me feel ... drugged. Thankfully I can sleep 3 hours at night and grab a few more in the afternoon. It took a while to figure out how many hours best suited me and to work up to 3. YMMV. I also am alert & ready for action upon waking. It's comical to watch Mr. MMM move like a slug after 8 hours of sleep until he's downed a couple of cups of coffee and showered. Maybe the shorter sleeping times are better for the mind and body.
 
2014-03-06 09:55:28 AM  

Freudian_slipknot: Nah, frankly I would have been better off in the long term, financially and emotionally, if the overdose had killed him. However, Ambien is apparently extraordinarily hard to overdose on as it turns out. Lucky for him, I suppose, unless he hasn't found the joy he thought he'd find from farking everything he could get his penis into and running away from home.


nice
 
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