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2014-03-05 09:58:09 AM  
The other two have to hide their meds when the third visits.
 
2014-03-05 10:00:14 AM  
Someone should write a Country song about this.

You picked a fine time to leave me, Mary Beth
2 kids on Oxy and the other's on Meth....
 
2014-03-05 10:11:43 AM  

vernonFL: Someone should write a Country song about this.

You picked a fine time to leave me, Mary Beth
2 kids on Oxy and the other's on Meth....


Eh, just change the references to booze in Porter Wagoner's "Cold Hard Facts of Life" to meth references, and it'll be good,
 
2014-03-05 10:24:04 AM  
As a Tennessee native whose family still resides, I understand completely.  You need a little something to make the place tolerable.

Weed would do it, but that would be illegal.
 
2014-03-05 11:10:39 AM  
or

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2014-03-05 11:55:30 AM  
That's why I listen to Western
 
2014-03-05 11:56:20 AM  
And they all support tough on crime drug laws.
 
2014-03-05 11:57:28 AM  
AMA approves.
 
2014-03-05 11:57:50 AM  

Summoner101: That's why I listen to Western


eil.com

why not both?
 
2014-03-05 11:58:26 AM  
The world is doomed, I say doomed!
 
2014-03-05 11:58:50 AM  

upndn: The world is doomed, I say doomed!


and they feel fine
 
2014-03-05 12:00:43 PM  
I'm going to be as serious as I can be here.

If you're here, there's a good chance you're not going anywhere in life.  You work at Walmart or a fast food place or a car lot or a quik-lube oil place.  Your pay is slightly above minimum wage.  Your realistic goals in life are to not have to worry about a car breaking down or if you're going to make rent in time, and that you have a nice warm place to die.  You put in the best years of your life, and that still doesn't make the hands being held out for money that you don't have go away.  No, they just increase.  The banker man comes and says, "$100?  No, forget it, you were late.  Now it's $500."

Is it any wonder people turn to drugs?  Artificial happy is a fine substitute for no happy after so long.  If the government were smart it'd get on this train and get as many people hooked on opiates and uppers as they can, because that's literally all most people in this state would have to look forward to.  I suspect most of rural America is the same way.  It isn't so much working for a living as it is working your ass off to simply not die.

So I can't criticize them one bit.
 
2014-03-05 12:01:23 PM  
Meh. I wonder if a friend will tell me about the 3 different sleep pills he's been prescribed for the simple tiny task of sleeping at night. He's gone for a week straight several times a year unable to sleep without medicine.

At least it beats the one time a psychiatrist thought he needed something else instead of sleeping pills. That was an interesting 6 month time frame he doesn't remember anything about.  Including a job he applied for, worked for, and quit from.  Everyone there remembers him, and a few are afraid of him. He doesn't know what happened.
 
2014-03-05 12:01:55 PM  
Geek tab?
 
2014-03-05 12:05:52 PM  
HotWingConspiracy: "And they all support tough on crime drug laws."

Well, sure. Those laws are for other people and other drugs.
You know... "those" people and "their" drugs.
 
2014-03-05 12:06:51 PM  

Hrist: I suspect most of rural America the world is the same way.  It isn't so much working for a living as it is working your ass off to simply not die.


That's how 6 billion of the 7 billion people on this planet live, and many of them live full, happy lives despite their struggles.
 
2014-03-05 12:07:46 PM  
www.entertainmentfuse.com
 
2014-03-05 12:09:33 PM  
I personally recommend succinylcholine. You'll trip balls
 
2014-03-05 12:11:25 PM  
It ain't called Hillbilly Heroin for nothin'.
 
2014-03-05 12:12:22 PM  

hardinparamedic: I personally recommend succinylcholine. You'll trip balls


Sounds fun! "Despite its adverse effects, including life threatening malignant hyperthermia, hyperkalaemia, and anaphylaxis, it is perennially popular in emergency medicine because it has the fastest onset and shortest duration of action of all muscle relaxants. "
 
2014-03-05 12:12:51 PM  
Well done, Subby.
 
2014-03-05 12:13:06 PM  

twistedmetal: The other two have to hide their meds when the third visits.


The local Veterinarians wont even carry pain killers any more. Too much of an theft incentive as well as people hurting their animals to get their hands on the pills. Pillbillies for the win!
 
2014-03-05 12:15:05 PM  

Hrist: I'm going to be as serious as I can be here.

If you're here, there's a good chance you're not going anywhere in life.  You work at Walmart or a fast food place or a car lot or a quik-lube oil place.  Your pay is slightly above minimum wage.  Your realistic goals in life are to not have to worry about a car breaking down or if you're going to make rent in time, and that you have a nice warm place to die.  You put in the best years of your life, and that still doesn't make the hands being held out for money that you don't have go away.  No, they just increase.  The banker man comes and says, "$100?  No, forget it, you were late.  Now it's $500."

Is it any wonder people turn to drugs?  Artificial happy is a fine substitute for no happy after so long.  If the government were smart it'd get on this train and get as many people hooked on opiates and uppers as they can, because that's literally all most people in this state would have to look forward to.  I suspect most of rural America is the same way.  It isn't so much working for a living as it is working your ass off to simply not die.

So I can't criticize them one bit.


This is depressing but still probably quite truthful about the plight of many people.
To the credit of that state, however, the natural scenery in much of Tennessee is so beautiful, one could almost get high just off of that. I'm excluding West Tennessee here, naturally.
 
2014-03-05 12:15:14 PM  

Communist_Manifesto: hardinparamedic: I personally recommend succinylcholine. You'll trip balls

Sounds fun! "Despite its adverse effects, including life threatening malignant hyperthermia, hyperkalaemia, and anaphylaxis, it is perennially popular in emergency medicine because it has the fastest onset and shortest duration of action of all muscle relaxants. "


img.fark.net
 
2014-03-05 12:15:34 PM  

cwolf20: Meh. I wonder if a friend will tell me about the 3 different sleep pills he's been prescribed for the simple tiny task of sleeping at night. He's gone for a week straight several times a year unable to sleep without medicine.

At least it beats the one time a psychiatrist thought he needed something else instead of sleeping pills. That was an interesting 6 month time frame he doesn't remember anything about.  Including a job he applied for, worked for, and quit from.  Everyone there remembers him, and a few are afraid of him. He doesn't know what happened.


I had the same thing happen to a friend of mine.  He couldn't sleep, and the doctor didn't want him to have any more meds, even after he told the doctor he was in pain the doctor scoffed at him.  So he started going to these therapy sessions and ended up starting a club of his own which eventually morphed into a criminal ring and he blew up a bunch of credit card buildings on the same day he shot himself in the face.  He's fine now, it was just a really weird time for him.
 
2014-03-05 12:15:55 PM  
Golf clap to subby for headline.
 
2014-03-05 12:26:16 PM  

Hrist: I'm going to be as serious as I can be here.

If you're here, there's a good chance you're not going anywhere in life.  You work at Walmart or a fast food place or a car lot or a quik-lube oil place.  Your pay is slightly above minimum wage.  Your realistic goals in life are to not have to worry about a car breaking down or if you're going to make rent in time, and that you have a nice warm place to die.  You put in the best years of your life, and that still doesn't make the hands being held out for money that you don't have go away.  No, they just increase.  The banker man comes and says, "$100?  No, forget it, you were late.  Now it's $500."

Is it any wonder people turn to drugs?  Artificial happy is a fine substitute for no happy after so long.  If the government were smart it'd get on this train and get as many people hooked on opiates and uppers as they can, because that's literally all most people in this state would have to look forward to.  I suspect most of rural America is the same way.  It isn't so much working for a living as it is working your ass off to simply not die.

So I can't criticize them one bit.


farm1.staticflickr.com
 
2014-03-05 12:27:49 PM  

BafflerMeal: [www.entertainmentfuse.com image 323x305]


Nope, that's Kentucky.
 
2014-03-05 12:31:21 PM  
Kind of explains the Teabaggers.
 
2014-03-05 12:33:15 PM  
menschenfresser - the natural scenery in much of Tennessee is so beautiful...

I just love how people who do not have to live in rural areas always talk about how beautiful they are. Trust me, a few weeks of nothing and you would be snorting poke berries and eating pine needles to escape. I could not wait to get away from 'tha coontry' and move to a place that at least has a store within 40 miles open after 10 p.m.. Trust me, all that dreaming of 'simple rural living' is a nightmare if you want anything other than to live like the cavemen during the Pleiscene era...

As to the findings of the study, I am not surprised. No jobs, no hope, no sign of progressive intelligence, surrounded by brainwashed idiots who vote against their own interests (once they are out in the cold, they still don't grasp that those animals caused the problem, and still vote for the same weaselly vultures to represent them), and watching their 'beautiful' state being slowly destroyed by these same vultures. I don't wonder that more and more of this state's residents are not on something at all times...
 
2014-03-05 12:35:32 PM  
The complete lack of oversight over all prescription drugs across the country is appalling. Most pharmacies (here in California) don't actually check to see if you've filled a prescription from them recently before dispensing. Instead, they just run it through the person's insurance company and if the insurance doesn't come back and say "Wtf! He already filled a prescription for that recently" the pharmacy just dispenses it.

Sad /CSB time..

We had a family members who was doctor shopping for prescription pain killers. He is a young guy who has a spinal condition that causes back pain. This eventually led to him becoming a drug addict (along with all of the usual factors including lying, not being responsible, deceptiveness, genetic factors etc).

One night he tried to commit suicide by attempting to overdose on Norcos. Fortunately, he was taken to the hospital in time and he was fine. We looked at the two bottles of Norcos that he had and noticed that each bottle was for a 1 month supply of Norco and each bottle contained 100 Norcos. However, both prescriptions were filled at the SAME pharmacy 2 days apart. That's 200 Norcos from the same pharmacy in two days. (Safeway pharmacy)

A couple of us went to the pharmacy and demanded "wtf!" The pharmacist had the gall to say "We check their insurance and if the insurance doesn't deny coverage of the medication we dispense it." Because our drug addict family member had paid cash ($28 for 100 Norcos) they never even checked. The worst part of the whole thing was that they couldn't have cared less and refused to admit any wrongdoing whatsoever.

I filed a complaint with the board of pharmacology and sent them the two prescription bottles as proof. The board investigated, found wrongdoing and fined one of the pharmacists involved $1,000 and the other pharmacist $2,000. Neither pharmacist received a demerit on their license.

Because offenses that egregious only fetch mild penalties I'm not surprised that pharmacies don't care.

I fully realize that our family member is responsible for the whole fiasco and I'm not trying to insinuate that anybody else is responsible except him. I wanted to share the story to illustrate how poorly managed pharmacology is.
 
2014-03-05 12:38:42 PM  

Seat's Taken: cwolf20: Meh. I wonder if a friend will tell me about the 3 different sleep pills he's been prescribed for the simple tiny task of sleeping at night. He's gone for a week straight several times a year unable to sleep without medicine.

At least it beats the one time a psychiatrist thought he needed something else instead of sleeping pills. That was an interesting 6 month time frame he doesn't remember anything about.  Including a job he applied for, worked for, and quit from.  Everyone there remembers him, and a few are afraid of him. He doesn't know what happened.

I had the same thing happen to a friend of mine.  He couldn't sleep, and the doctor didn't want him to have any more meds, even after he told the doctor he was in pain the doctor scoffed at him.  So he started going to these therapy sessions and ended up starting a club of his own which eventually morphed into a criminal ring and he blew up a bunch of credit card buildings on the same day he shot himself in the face.  He's fine now, it was just a really weird time for him.


Dammit.. someone must turn that into a novel
 
2014-03-05 12:42:17 PM  

armor helix: The complete lack of oversight over all prescription drugs across the country is appalling. Most pharmacies (here in California) don't actually check to see if you've filled a prescription from them recently before dispensing. Instead, they just run it through the person's insurance company and if the insurance doesn't come back and say "Wtf! He already filled a prescription for that recently" the pharmacy just dispenses it.

Sad /CSB time..

We had a family members who was doctor shopping for prescription pain killers. He is a young guy who has a spinal condition that causes back pain. This eventually led to him becoming a drug addict (along with all of the usual factors including lying, not being responsible, deceptiveness, genetic factors etc).

One night he tried to commit suicide by attempting to overdose on Norcos. Fortunately, he was taken to the hospital in time and he was fine. We looked at the two bottles of Norcos that he had and noticed that each bottle was for a 1 month supply of Norco and each bottle contained 100 Norcos. However, both prescriptions were filled at the SAME pharmacy 2 days apart. That's 200 Norcos from the same pharmacy in two days. (Safeway pharmacy)

A couple of us went to the pharmacy and demanded "wtf!" The pharmacist had the gall to say "We check their insurance and if the insurance doesn't deny coverage of the medication we dispense it." Because our drug addict family member had paid cash ($28 for 100 Norcos) they never even checked. The worst part of the whole thing was that they couldn't have cared less and refused to admit any wrongdoing whatsoever.

I filed a complaint with the board of pharmacology and sent them the two prescription bottles as proof. The board investigated, found wrongdoing and fined one of the pharmacists involved $1,000 and the other pharmacist $2,000. Neither pharmacist received a demerit on their license.

Because offenses that egregious only fetch mild penalties I'm not surprised that pharmacies don't ca ...


Try Wal-mart pharmacy.  If you had a 90 day prescription with a different medicine at one point, and walk in with a 30 day for a new one.  Depending on the store, voila you have a 90 day.

Not that I'm complaining.. the test blood pressure medicine that I switched to turned out to be what I needed.  Paying 25 co-pay for a 90 day supply is a lot better than 25 for 30 through somewhere else.
 
2014-03-05 12:42:22 PM  
Well that's one more, innit.

img.fark.net
 
2014-03-05 12:42:42 PM  

TheLastFrontiersman: BafflerMeal: [www.entertainmentfuse.com image 323x305]

Nope, that's Kentucky.


A: Like there's a difference

and #2: It's the San Fernando Valley

/amused by the folks who think it's shot on location
/some decent characters, crappy show
/just drinking coffee
 
2014-03-05 12:42:56 PM  

The Stealth Hippopotamus: or

[img545.imageshack.us image 789x616]


Why for the love of Gawd do people insist on drinking Old No. 7 Varnish Remover?
 
2014-03-05 12:46:20 PM  

payattention: menschenfresser - the natural scenery in much of Tennessee is so beautiful...

I just love how people who do not have to live in rural areas always talk about how beautiful they are. Trust me, a few weeks of nothing and you would be snorting poke berries and eating pine needles to escape. I could not wait to get away from 'tha coontry' and move to a place that at least has a store within 40 miles open after 10 p.m.. Trust me, all that dreaming of 'simple rural living' is a nightmare if you want anything other than to live like the cavemen during the Pleiscene era...

As to the findings of the study, I am not surprised. No jobs, no hope, no sign of progressive intelligence, surrounded by brainwashed idiots who vote against their own interests (once they are out in the cold, they still don't grasp that those animals caused the problem, and still vote for the same weaselly vultures to represent them), and watching their 'beautiful' state being slowly destroyed by these same vultures. I don't wonder that more and more of this state's residents are not on something at all times...


Population density as inhabitants per square mile in Tennessee: 156.6
Population density as inhabitants per square mile in Minnesota: 67.14
 
2014-03-05 12:49:37 PM  

cwolf20: Meh. I wonder if a friend will tell me about the 3 different sleep pills he's been prescribed for the simple tiny task of sleeping at night. He's gone for a week straight several times a year unable to sleep without medicine.

At least it beats the one time a psychiatrist thought he needed something else instead of sleeping pills. That was an interesting 6 month time frame he doesn't remember anything about.  Including a job he applied for, worked for, and quit from.  Everyone there remembers him, and a few are afraid of him. He doesn't know what happened.


I completely understand this.  Nothing other then days worth of sleepless exhaustion, or 300mg of Seroquel will get me to sleep.  Most people get knocked the fark out by 25-50mg.  I hate that my neuro-biology is this way, as I'd love to be able to take short naps anywhere, or nod off naturally. Playing with my diet, meditation, melatonin, valerian root/skullcap, "sleepytime" teas, etc have not worked.  Trazodone does nothing.  It's a nightmare, because I know I can't be on Seroquel forever.

On the flip side, I can wake up and be completely alert and ready for the day within 2 minutes of waking - no caffeine needed. That's kinda nice.
 
2014-03-05 12:50:30 PM  

armor helix: I fully realize that our family member is responsible for the whole fiasco and I'm not trying to insinuate that anybody else is responsible except him. I wanted to share the story to illustrate how poorly managed pharmacology is.


except that biatching at the pharmacists for dispensing the client's legal prescription is as wrong as biatching out the clerk at the liquor store for continuing to sell your alcoholic dad whiskey.  or biatching out the cashier at wal-mart for continuing to sell your obese mother twinkies.

should the pharm be responsible?  perhaps, and if wrongdoing was found, then a fine might be warranted, but the issue isn't that the pharm in question dispensed the pills.

the issue is that your family member is a farking pill head.  biatching the pharm out helped no one.  stop looking for a scapegoat and get your family member some help.
 
2014-03-05 12:54:42 PM  

hardinparamedic: Communist_Manifesto: hardinparamedic: I personally recommend succinylcholine. You'll trip balls

Sounds fun! "Despite its adverse effects, including life threatening malignant hyperthermia, hyperkalaemia, and anaphylaxis, it is perennially popular in emergency medicine because it has the fastest onset and shortest duration of action of all muscle relaxants. "

[img.fark.net image 318x240]


Use your words!
 
2014-03-05 12:56:50 PM  

armor helix: The complete lack of oversight over all prescription drugs across the country is appalling. Most pharmacies (here in California) don't actually check to see if you've filled a prescription from them recently before dispensing. Instead, they just run it through the person's insurance company and if the insurance doesn't come back and say "Wtf! He already filled a prescription for that recently" the pharmacy just dispenses it.

Sad /CSB time..

We had a family members who was doctor shopping for prescription pain killers. He is a young guy who has a spinal condition that causes back pain. This eventually led to him becoming a drug addict (along with all of the usual factors including lying, not being responsible, deceptiveness, genetic factors etc).

One night he tried to commit suicide by attempting to overdose on Norcos. Fortunately, he was taken to the hospital in time and he was fine. We looked at the two bottles of Norcos that he had and noticed that each bottle was for a 1 month supply of Norco and each bottle contained 100 Norcos. However, both prescriptions were filled at the SAME pharmacy 2 days apart. That's 200 Norcos from the same pharmacy in two days. (Safeway pharmacy)

A couple of us went to the pharmacy and demanded "wtf!" The pharmacist had the gall to say "We check their insurance and if the insurance doesn't deny coverage of the medication we dispense it." Because our drug addict family member had paid cash ($28 for 100 Norcos) they never even checked. The worst part of the whole thing was that they couldn't have cared less and refused to admit any wrongdoing whatsoever.

I filed a complaint with the board of pharmacology and sent them the two prescription bottles as proof. The board investigated, found wrongdoing and fined one of the pharmacists involved $1,000 and the other pharmacist $2,000. Neither pharmacist received a demerit on their license.

Because offenses that egregious only fetch mild penalties I'm not surprised that pharmacies don't care.

I fully realize that our family member is responsible for the whole fiasco and I'm not trying to insinuate that anybody else is responsible except him. I wanted to share the story to illustrate how poorly managed pharmacology is.


Be careful what you wish for. In Texas, there is a good chance you family member could get 20 years in Huntsville.
 
2014-03-05 01:04:13 PM  
My dad was a pharmaceutical researcher, so I am very thankful he instilled in me a bit of fear and a ton of respect for prescription drugs. I try to never take a pill for anything if I can avoid it. I've been lucky to never have any major medical issues.

My wife had some minor foot surgery, and was so loopy and farked up from the painkillers, she opted for living lucidly with the pain and took OTC pain meds instead.
 
2014-03-05 01:11:09 PM  

anuran: Why for the love of Gawd do people insist on drinking Old No. 7 Varnish Remover?


www.quickmeme.com

neversubmit: Use your words!


All according to plan.
 
2014-03-05 01:15:57 PM  
TN native here.  Lived in the country for seven years now after 10 in a city.  Got a nice little house but way out in the county so there are trade offs of privacy vs. convenience.  I do plan on moving back to a city, but I admit there are lots and lots of days I love laying on my deck, swimming, grilling and looking at the mountains.  Not a brutal life.  Dude did get murdered about a mile from my house the other week so there's that.

Meth is in the country, crack is in the city, whatca gonna do?
 
2014-03-05 01:23:28 PM  

The Stealth Hippopotamus: or

[img545.imageshack.us image 789x616]


Only as long as your reserve isn't running low on a Sunday.
 
2014-03-05 01:29:33 PM  

VOCSL5: cwolf20: Meh. I wonder if a friend will tell me about the 3 different sleep pills he's been prescribed for the simple tiny task of sleeping at night. He's gone for a week straight several times a year unable to sleep without medicine.

At least it beats the one time a psychiatrist thought he needed something else instead of sleeping pills. That was an interesting 6 month time frame he doesn't remember anything about.  Including a job he applied for, worked for, and quit from.  Everyone there remembers him, and a few are afraid of him. He doesn't know what happened.

I completely understand this.  Nothing other then days worth of sleepless exhaustion, or 300mg of Seroquel will get me to sleep.  Most people get knocked the fark out by 25-50mg.  I hate that my neuro-biology is this way, as I'd love to be able to take short naps anywhere, or nod off naturally. Playing with my diet, meditation, melatonin, valerian root/skullcap, "sleepytime" teas, etc have not worked.  Trazodone does nothing.  It's a nightmare, because I know I can't be on Seroquel forever.

On the flip side, I can wake up and be completely alert and ready for the day within 2 minutes of waking - no caffeine needed. That's kinda nice.


Did you also have the issue where when you do get to sleep, sometimes you wake up in the back of your van.  In your parents' driveway. (he lives there right now, their request.  his rising blood pressure from them) With a quarter of a tank missing from the full tank you know you had 5 minutes before you parked and went in for the night?

He had also been seen driving with his eyes completely closed and his head facing toward his lap.  Stopping at signs, and lights, turning, avoiding weaving or hitting anyone.

The sleeping pills counter that effect too.  He says that's a good thing.  Sleep driving scares him every time he finds evidence of it.
 
2014-03-05 01:41:12 PM  

hardinparamedic: anuran: Why for the love of Gawd do people insist on drinking Old No. 7 Varnish Remover?

[www.quickmeme.com image 500x377]

neversubmit: Use your words!

All according to plan.


Ok thanks.

/grumbles
//you young people and your clever references.
 
2014-03-05 01:44:37 PM  

frepnog: armor helix: I fully realize that our family member is responsible for the whole fiasco and I'm not trying to insinuate that anybody else is responsible except him. I wanted to share the story to illustrate how poorly managed pharmacology is.

except that biatching at the pharmacists for dispensing the client's legal prescription is as wrong as biatching out the clerk at the liquor store for continuing to sell your alcoholic dad whiskey.  or biatching out the cashier at wal-mart for continuing to sell your obese mother twinkies.

should the pharm be responsible?  perhaps, and if wrongdoing was found, then a fine might be warranted, but the issue isn't that the pharm in question dispensed the pills.

the issue is that your family member is a farking pill head.  biatching the pharm out helped no one.  stop looking for a scapegoat and get your family member some help.


If you had taken the 18.7 seconds required to read the entire post you would have seen where it said that I realize it was the family members fault. However, the pharmacy is legally required to check medication history and they don't. Hence the point of the story.

I realize it is probably very difficult for someone like you to read a whole post BEFORE making yourself look like a jackass.

Informed jackass > uninformed jackass
 
2014-03-05 01:51:02 PM  

armor helix: If you had taken the 18.7 seconds required to read the entire post you would have seen where it said that I realize it was the family members fault. However, the pharmacy is legally required to check medication history and they don't. Hence the point of the story.

I realize it is probably very difficult for someone like you to read a whole post BEFORE making yourself look like a jackass.


if you had taken the time to read what I actually posted, realize that I quoted the important part of your post (the part where you say it was the family member's fault) and also read the part where I even say "if the pharm was in the wrong, they deserve a fine" then you would know that your post HERE was stupid and superfluous.

Because none of what you said changes this from being accurate-

frepnog: should the pharm be responsible? perhaps, and if wrongdoing was found, then a fine might be warranted, but the issue isn't that the pharm in question dispensed the pills.

the issue is that your family member is a farking pill head. biatching the pharm out helped no one. stop looking for a scapegoat and get your family member some help.

 
2014-03-05 02:01:52 PM  

cwolf20: VOCSL5: cwolf20: Meh. I wonder if a friend will tell me about the 3 different sleep pills ......

.........Did you also have the issue where when you do get to sleep, sometimes you wake up in the back of your van.  In your parents' driveway. (he lives there right now, their request.  his rising blood pressure from them) With a quarter of a tank missing from the full tank you know you had 5 minutes before you parked and went in for the night?

He had also been seen driving with his eyes completely closed and his head facing toward his lap.  Stopping at signs, and lights, turning, avoiding weaving or hitting anyone.

The sleeping pills counter that effect too.  He says that's a good thing.  Sleep driving scares him every time he finds evidence of it.


I've never had sleep-amnesia from Seroquel.  What you described really seems more like Ambien Walrus territory.
Actually, I take that back a tiny bit.  I do get a little sleep amnesia, but it only pertains to the moment I fall asleep.  I never remember when I fall asleep.  It's happened while I've been reading a book or watching something on my laptop as I lie and wait for the Seroquel to kick in: one minute I'm reading/watching, the next I'm waking up to the sunrise spilling through my window and messing with whatever I was just dreaming.
The Ambien Walrus-type stuff you described about your friend scares the fark out of me, and I swear I will never try it.  I'd rather go getting 4 hours of sleep every 3 days than mess with that.  The Reddit AW threads are an entertaining (but scary) read - I recommend checking it out.
 
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