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2014-03-05 03:01:37 AM  
Well that looks awful. Do none of the voices ever change tone?
 
2014-03-05 03:54:47 AM  
Because it's not Deadpool and Iron Man the live action movie.
 
2014-03-05 08:33:58 AM  
BECAUSE I'M NOT TWELVE
 
2014-03-05 08:42:01 AM  
...  Ummm, didn't they just actually show how it ended in the trailer?
 
2014-03-05 08:46:13 AM  

justanothersumguy: ...  Ummm, didn't they just actually show how it ended in the trailer?


nope. Slade has Wolverine like healing.
 
2014-03-05 08:48:49 AM  
Team Arrow + Suicide Squad Vs Deathstroke and Brother Blood and Cops vs both of them.  It's on!
 
2014-03-05 08:52:52 AM  

colinspooky: Well that looks awful. Do none of the voices ever change tone?


I watched Arrow a few times and it's too big for its britches.  It's everyone pretending they're doing something high quality, but failing at it.  And, yes, each time I've seen it, the lines are delivered with a mumblemumbleutter.

"I'll have a cheese on toast."  DAHDAHDAH BOOOOOOOOM!

\speaking of shows that pretend to be high quality, I finally got started on Helix.  Ugh.
 
2014-03-05 09:03:58 AM  
Has the link been removed? It claims to forward to YouTube, but there's nothing clickable to the left of the tag. img.fark.net
 
2014-03-05 09:07:45 AM  
thisistwitchy.files.wordpress.com
 
2014-03-05 09:23:13 AM  
My body is prepared.
 
2014-03-05 09:34:37 AM  

whizbangthedirtfarmer: I watched Arrow a few times and it's too big for its britches.  It's everyone pretending they're doing something high quality, but failing at it.  And, yes, each time I've seen it, the lines are delivered with a mumblemumbleutter.


Yup. I wanted to like it myself, but it was a no go.
David Ramsey plays well in it, but unfortunately he's just a sidekick.
 
2014-03-05 09:36:05 AM  

whizbangthedirtfarmer: colinspooky: Well that looks awful. Do none of the voices ever change tone?

I watched Arrow a few times and it's too big for its britches.  It's everyone pretending they're doing something high quality, but failing at it.

Cheesy Acting and Production Values Detected.

Par for the course for the CW. I think this answers subby's question.
 
2014-03-05 09:38:48 AM  

Hobodeluxe: Team Arrow + Suicide Squad Vs Deathstroke and Brother Blood and Cops vs both of them.  It's on!


Do you think the Suicide Squad is going help Green Arrow?

And what I have gathered from the last few years is that for comic book fans, let Marvel do the movies and let DC do the TV shows and animated movies.
 
2014-03-05 10:01:43 AM  
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2014-03-05 10:12:33 AM  

fisker: BECAUSE I'M NOT TWELVE


More succinct that what I came in to say.
 
2014-03-05 10:13:28 AM  
Arrow is a fine program, not the best on TV but pretty darn good. Suck it haters.
 
2014-03-05 10:27:11 AM  

colinspooky: Well that looks awful. Do none of the voices ever change tone?


Jesus, I thought Patchy the Pirate was Liam Neeson.

Also, "arrows" are why I don't watch this. The premise is sound for a show set prior to 1483. Now, not so much.
 
2014-03-05 10:28:54 AM  

Boudyro: Arrow is a fine program, not the best on TV but pretty darn good. Suck it haters.


I made it through two and a half episodes on Netflix before I gave up on it. I'd rather suck it than have to watch any more of it.
 
2014-03-05 10:40:24 AM  

lostcat: Boudyro: Arrow is a fine program, not the best on TV but pretty darn good. Suck it haters.

I made it through two and a half episodes on Netflix before I gave up on it. I'd rather suck it than have to watch any more of it.


I made it through a few more than that ..but it is certainly a redundant, meaningless mess of a show. It could have been good too.

I hate shows the give out plot points with an eye dropper over such a long time and leave you with filler, redundant "drama" between anything remotely interesting. All that tells me is that they either don't know where the show is going or they have precious little story to begin with.
 
2014-03-05 10:42:55 AM  

whizbangthedirtfarmer: \speaking of shows that pretend to be high quality, I finally got started on Helix.  Ugh.


I'm actually totally digging Helix.  Plot moves along, consistantly delivers.  Reminds me a lot of those old B-films like "Fantastic Voyage."

It's a decent place to hang out until they bring "Cleopatra 2525" off of hiatus.
 
2014-03-05 11:01:22 AM  
OMG WHY ARE YOU NOT WATCHING THIS?

Because it's lame.
And that looked so incredibly boring and predictable.
The acting couldn't have been any worse.
I've seen better posing and flexing between daytime soap characters.
 
2014-03-05 11:04:42 AM  

Popo Bawa: OMG WHY ARE YOU NOT WATCHING THIS?

Because it's lame.
And that looked so incredibly boring and predictable.
The acting couldn't have been any worse.
I've seen better posing and flexing between daytime soap characters.


You know nothing, Jon Snow.
 
2014-03-05 11:33:56 AM  
because it's on the CW and based on a DC property?
 
2014-03-05 11:35:09 AM  
... because it looks bland, generic and formulaic. And fisker said it best: cuz we're not twelve anymore.
 
2014-03-05 11:46:24 AM  

James Rieper: whizbangthedirtfarmer: \speaking of shows that pretend to be high quality, I finally got started on Helix.  Ugh.

I'm actually totally digging Helix.  Plot moves along, consistantly delivers.  Reminds me a lot of those old B-films like "Fantastic Voyage."

It's a decent place to hang out until they bring "Cleopatra 2525" off of hiatus.


I hope it gets better.  I'm about five episodes in, and Dr. Shaky Hands and Dr. Raspy Voice are getting on my nerves.  The mysteries aren't interesting; they're irritating.
 
Bf+
2014-03-05 11:53:55 AM  
OMG WHY ARE YOU NOT WATCHING THIS IS SUBBY POSTING THIS GARBAGE?
 
2014-03-05 12:09:52 PM  

bluenote13: Hobodeluxe: Team Arrow + Suicide Squad Vs Deathstroke and Brother Blood and Cops vs both of them.  It's on!

Do you think the Suicide Squad is going help Green Arrow?

And what I have gathered from the last few years is that for comic book fans, let Marvel do the movies and let DC do the TV shows and animated movies.


Well it clearly looks like Amanda is going after Deathstroke using the Suicide Squad, and she has already proven she knows who Oliver is and could take him down at any time.  While I don't think we'll see a scene like when Diggle and Oliver went against Merlyn, they will technically be on the same side.

Brother Blood is firmly in the deathstroke camp though.

/like the part where roy punches slade and has no effect
 
2014-03-05 12:11:15 PM  
Because there are only so many shows I can watch in a season.
 
2014-03-05 12:14:22 PM  

whizbangthedirtfarmer: James Rieper: whizbangthedirtfarmer: \speaking of shows that pretend to be high quality, I finally got started on Helix.  Ugh.

I'm actually totally digging Helix.  Plot moves along, consistantly delivers.  Reminds me a lot of those old B-films like "Fantastic Voyage."

It's a decent place to hang out until they bring "Cleopatra 2525" off of hiatus.

I hope it gets better.  I'm about five episodes in, and Dr. Shaky Hands and Dr. Raspy Voice are getting on my nerves.  The mysteries aren't interesting; they're irritating.


I couldn't even make it that far. Despite the fact that they're doctors and scientists working for the CDC they constantly ignore procedures and steps that would have been the first things hammered into their heads as workers for the CDC. They're making the same mistake SG:U did and making ordinarily intelligent people into morons for the sake of plot advancement. I stopped after the pilot.

Personally I don't get all the Arrow hate, but that's Fark for you, for every person that enjoys something there's at least five Farkers that don't and need to make sure everyone knows about it. I like the show, and I think AoS could take a few notes from the writers at Arrow on how to properly do comics characters as a live action show.
 
2014-03-05 12:37:41 PM  

Perlin Noise: lostcat: Boudyro: Arrow is a fine program, not the best on TV but pretty darn good. Suck it haters.

I made it through two and a half episodes on Netflix before I gave up on it. I'd rather suck it than have to watch any more of it.

I made it through a few more than that ..but it is certainly a redundant, meaningless mess of a show. It could have been good too.

I hate shows the give out plot points with an eye dropper over such a long time and leave you with filler, redundant "drama" between anything remotely interesting. All that tells me is that they either don't know where the show is going or they have precious little story to begin with.


I felt the opposite.  I've only seen the first season on Netflix but I thought it was a fantastic modern re-imagining of a character I wasn't a fan of, with small story arcs in each episode but each providing more to an ongoing season arc.  The way the first season ended was fantastic.  It could use a little more humor to lighten it up a bit at times, and some of the actors seemed to have been hired more because they're pretty than because they're good actors, but I really enjoyed it far more then I ever expected to.
 
2014-03-05 12:39:33 PM  

Dingleberry Dickwad: Personally I don't get all the Arrow hate, but that's Fark for you, for every person that enjoys something there's at least five Farkers that don't and need to make sure everyone knows about it. I like the show, and I think AoS could take a few notes from the writers at Arrow on how to properly do comics characters as a live action show.


I like both shows (Arrow and AoS). I don't pretend that either show is great art.

A lot of the hate seems to come from people who are seriously invested in the characters as depicted in the comic books. I was never a comic reader, so I'm willing to take each show for what it is; I have no need to pick either show to pieces for any departure from canon.

I just want to be entertained, and they're both entertaining enough for me.
 
2014-03-05 12:43:23 PM  

Boudyro: Arrow is a fine program, not the best on TV but pretty darn good. Suck it haters.


Yeah, this. I love it. Stephen Amell's abs are enough to keep me tuning in.
 
2014-03-05 12:50:31 PM  

Dingleberry Dickwad: I think AoS could take a few notes from the writers at Arrow on how to properly do comics characters as a live action show.


In that regard, Arrow has definitely nailed it. They found a base level of disbelief that people will buy, nailed it, and started to build from around that to get just a little more amazing and comic-like. SHIELD had the misfortune of starting up after a series of popular and incredibly expensive movies, but then trying to work on a TV budget without having the resources that were used for any of those movies.

From a production standpoint, what SHIELD really needed to look bigger-budget than it is, was some sets and locations from the movies that they could use on the show to help build coherency. Also, some freaking characters from movies and comics. Yes, they're starting in on that finally, but it took more than half a season and we're getting... A secondary Thor hero, and some guy named "Deathlok" that 99% of the planet has never heard of. But none of that helps SHIELD's biggest flaw - the writing just hasn't been good enough to make us really care about most of these characters. Aside from Lucy Liu kicking ass, and Clark Gregg generally being a fun guy to watch (though his "losers" comment sure didn't help his estimation among the fanbase) there just aren't compelling characters OR enough of a link to the comics for people to enjoy. Additionally, they only rarely trot out something from the comics as an injoke or reference to something, as if they're ashamed of the fact there are comics behind all this.

Arrow on the other hand, has been nailing that. With the exception of Laurel being one of the more annoying characters on TV, they've been gradually building up relationships between characters and increasing the cast with a steady pace that makes the show feel like it's building up to something bigger. And they're not ashamed of where they came from, either, introducing enough little nods and references to the comics to keep the fan base at least amused even when the writing falls flat. In contrast to SHIELD's apparent shame about its origins, Arrow just plain goes nuts with it. Every little namedrop they come up with seems like it could open a doorway into more material from the DC comics canon, where Agents of SHIELD just wants to throw things in as a last-minute tease.

SHIELD is just... a grind. I hope it gets better, and that's why I tune in. But every week, I find myself thinking "Well, maybe next week they'll get it right."

With Arrow, as much as I laugh at it because the production quality is clearly in Uwe Boll territory half the time, I look forward to a new episode because I know it's actually going to have at least a few good, fun moments and build on something I've been waiting to see. They got the formula right, a formula that was arguably perfected in the 80's with comics and in the 90's on TV starting with serialized shows like Babylon 5.
 
2014-03-05 12:53:52 PM  

Lumbar Puncture: with small story arcs in each episode but each providing more to an ongoing season arc.  The way the first season ended was fantastic.  It could use a little more humor to lighten it up a bit at times, and some of the actors seemed to have been hired more because they're pretty than because they're good actors, but I really enjoyed it far more then I ever expected to.


That's why I compare Arrow to Babylon 5 at the end of my little diatribe a few minutes ago. B5 was really quite innovative at the time in how JMS handled things with "A plot, B plot, and C plot." stuff, at least to my understanding of production and writing. You have your A plot that runs through the episode and has a resolution, your B plot that is destined to become an A plot in the mid-term, and a C plot that leaves little breadcrumbs all over the place for episodes at a time until it grows into a B plot and/or A plot. The "Arc" structure works very well for shows that want to try the serialized thing.
 
2014-03-05 12:55:45 PM  

TellarHK: Dingleberry Dickwad: I think AoS could take a few notes from the writers at Arrow on how to properly do comics characters as a live action show.

In that regard, Arrow has definitely nailed it. They found a base level of disbelief that people will buy, nailed it, and started to build from around that to get just a little more amazing and comic-like. SHIELD had the misfortune of starting up after a series of popular and incredibly expensive movies, but then trying to work on a TV budget without having the resources that were used for any of those movies.

From a production standpoint, what SHIELD really needed to look bigger-budget than it is, was some sets and locations from the movies that they could use on the show to help build coherency. Also, some freaking characters from movies and comics. Yes, they're starting in on that finally, but it took more than half a season and we're getting... A secondary Thor hero, and some guy named "Deathlok" that 99% of the planet has never heard of. But none of that helps SHIELD's biggest flaw - the writing just hasn't been good enough to make us really care about most of these characters. Aside from Lucy Liu kicking ass, and Clark Gregg generally being a fun guy to watch (though his "losers" comment sure didn't help his estimation among the fanbase) there just aren't compelling characters OR enough of a link to the comics for people to enjoy. Additionally, they only rarely trot out something from the comics as an injoke or reference to something, as if they're ashamed of the fact there are comics behind all this.

Arrow on the other hand, has been nailing that. With the exception of Laurel being one of the more annoying characters on TV, they've been gradually building up relationships between characters and increasing the cast with a steady pace that makes the show feel like it's building up to something bigger. And they're not ashamed of where they came from, either, introducing enough little nods and references to the comics ...


I love how much fun Amell seems to be having with it.  His facebook/twitter is generally hilarious with fan interactions, bloopers, and teasers.  And he certainly doesn't call people who don't like the show "losers".

He also really hates air canada.
 
2014-03-05 12:59:38 PM  
hammer85: He also really hates air canada. 

i1.wp.com
 
2014-03-05 01:06:09 PM  
hammer85

I had never seen his Twitter feed or anything, but now I have, and he seems like a hilariously cool guy. That is awesome.
 
2014-03-05 01:14:13 PM  
Anybody struggle through the "we have to save Skye, OMG she's totes amaze craze!" episode last night to watch Bill Paxton be cool? Any bets on what the GH in the tube was?
 
2014-03-05 01:16:53 PM  

Trocadero: Anybody struggle through the "we have to save Skye, OMG she's totes amaze craze!" episode last night to watch Bill Paxton be cool? Any bets on what the GH in the tube was?


Bill Paxton did a great job of playing Bill Paxton, yeah. He was pretty much perfect, but also a bit of a reminder of just how much this show wishes it were a movie. And the GH was probably a Kree.
 
2014-03-05 01:17:26 PM  
who + who?
 
2014-03-05 01:19:30 PM  

TellarHK: Trocadero: Anybody struggle through the "we have to save Skye, OMG she's totes amaze craze!" episode last night to watch Bill Paxton be cool? Any bets on what the GH in the tube was?

Bill Paxton did a great job of playing Bill Paxton, yeah. He was pretty much perfect, but also a bit of a reminder of just how much this show wishes it were a movie. And the GH was probably a Kree.


I'm hoping it's a Kree, but it looks way too much like a Frost Giant.
img4.wikia.nocookie.net
 
2014-03-05 01:20:38 PM  
I tried to watch Arrow. I tried. And I forgot I had even tried, making it through maybe 4 episodes, before I saw this.
 
2014-03-05 01:43:19 PM  
The CW knows its target audience and it isn't me.  Comics heroes written to the Vampire/Supernatural loving teen/college kid audience is predictably vacuous.  I gave it a few episodes and in each one I said, maybe it gets better.  When it didnt I moved on.  The special effects could be worse if the story/dialogue was better and I would like it.  But the sleek/cool factor plays much too important a role for what I consider "good tv".  AoS is no different other than its efforts at levity.
 
2014-03-05 01:54:56 PM  
I started watching this series a couple weeks ago, and am nearing the end of the 1st season.  Its been pretty solid so far and much harder edged than I was expecting.  I wish SHIELD would be a bit more like this show and a little less... whatever it is.

The only problem I have so far are all these 30-ish year old people that are all so attached to their parents apron strings.
 
2014-03-05 02:03:55 PM  

LumberJack: I tried to watch Arrow. I tried. And I forgot I had even tried, making it through maybe 4 episodes, before I saw this.


The Flexecutioner: The CW knows its target audience and it isn't me.  Comics heroes written to the Vampire/Supernatural loving teen/college kid audience is predictably vacuous.  I gave it a few episodes and in each one I said, maybe it gets better.  When it didnt I moved on.  The special effects could be worse if the story/dialogue was better and I would like it.  But the sleek/cool factor plays much too important a role for what I consider "good tv".  AoS is no different other than its efforts at levity.


The first half of season one is painful at times. I re-watched them on netflix recently and was reminded of how bad the family interactions and the Huntress parts were. Thankfully I can fast forward those parts and just watch Oliver shoot bad guys with arrows.
The show picks up in the second half of the season when they introduce the dark archer, and the second season they have really hit there stride as TellarHK noted.
 
2014-03-05 02:04:31 PM  

Lord Bear: I started watching this series a couple weeks ago, and am nearing the end of the 1st season.  Its been pretty solid so far and much harder edged than I was expecting.  I wish SHIELD would be a bit more like this show and a little less... whatever it is.

The only problem I have so far are all these 30-ish year old people that are all so attached to their parents apron strings.


Anything in particular?  And I'm pretty sure Oliver, Tommy and Laurel are in their mid 20s, and Thea is 16/18?

Oliver being close to his mom makes sense since you know, 5 years on an island.  Tommy is typical rich kid that never made anything of himself, and Laurel is the only thing keeping Det. Lance from the bottle.

I really like Det. Lance, especially this season.
 
2014-03-05 02:04:55 PM  

Tradskinzd: LumberJack: I tried to watch Arrow. I tried. And I forgot I had even tried, making it through maybe 4 episodes, before I saw this.

The Flexecutioner: The CW knows its target audience and it isn't me.  Comics heroes written to the Vampire/Supernatural loving teen/college kid audience is predictably vacuous.  I gave it a few episodes and in each one I said, maybe it gets better.  When it didnt I moved on.  The special effects could be worse if the story/dialogue was better and I would like it.  But the sleek/cool factor plays much too important a role for what I consider "good tv".  AoS is no different other than its efforts at levity.

The first half of season one is painful at times. I re-watched them on netflix recently and was reminded of how bad the family interactions and the Huntress parts were. Thankfully I can fast forward those parts and just watch Oliver shoot bad guys with arrows.
The show picks up in the second half of the season when they introduce the dark archer, and the second season they have really hit there stride as TellarHK noted.


their*
 
2014-03-05 02:08:32 PM  

The wonderful travels of a turd: ... because it looks bland, generic and formulaic. And fisker said it best: cuz we're not twelve anymore.


Looks can be deceiving.

CAN be deceiving. Not this time, but I've heard it's entirely possible.
 
2014-03-05 02:08:55 PM  

Dingleberry Dickwad: I couldn't even make it that far. Despite the fact that they're doctors and scientists working for the CDC they constantly ignore procedures and steps that would have been the first things hammered into their heads as workers for the CDC. They're making the same mistake SG:U did and making ordinarily intelligent people into morons for the sake of plot advancement. I stopped after the pilot.


Yes, I had to pause the series and take a break when Dr. Shaky Hands gives her speech about being a Ph.D., etc., etc., and how wonderfully smart she is, and then spends the rest of the next thirty minutes being a complete and utter fark up.
 
2014-03-05 02:20:59 PM  

TellarHK: Aside from Lucy Liu kicking ass,


That's Ming-Na Wen.  Lucy Liu is Watson on Elementary.

Ming-Na was on E.R.

Lucy was on Ally McBeal
 
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