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(Daily Mail)   New parents take infant to swanky ski resort and are appalled to find anonymous note under their door addressing their screaming baby, selfishness, lack of common sense and neighbors' ruined sleep. Naturally they run to the media   (dailymail.co.uk) divider line 37
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2014-03-05 12:38:02 AM  
10 votes:
I think bringing the baby as more of survival tactic.

If they were to get lost or explore off the main ski runs and lose their way, they may need the offspring for nutrition until they get rescued.
2014-03-05 09:14:48 AM  
4 votes:
ytterbium:
A parent can only do so much to soothe a cranky baby, and as a parent of a perpetually cranky kid, it sucks ass when nothing you do helps. Babies have their own minds and personalities, some are chill, some are little a$$holes.

Every hotel room comes with ice bags, and they are always large enough to fit around a baby's head. Try it next time, I guarantee the screaming will stop.
2014-03-05 09:32:55 AM  
3 votes:
TanHamster:
Yeah, next time I'll drive from NY to AZ and back again because 5-10 minutes of crying is too disruptive for your delicate sensibilties.

I'm sure your baby will fondly remember Wicked and the Statue of Liberty forever from its unforgettable vacation. Those memories are worth terrorizing a hundred strangers for hours with continuous screaming and the foul stenches of a dead skunk drowned in a port-a-john.
2014-03-05 02:37:12 AM  
3 votes:

MustardTiger: I would be pretty mad if I was next door to a screaming child. I wouldn't write a letter. That just seems a little too passive for me. I'm not sure what I would do, but I'm sure it would be pretty awesome.


Have you ever seen a jelly fish eating a baby?  Me either.  But I bet that's pretty awesome.
hej [TotalFark]
2014-03-05 08:30:02 AM  
2 votes:
What the hell is wrong with people.  Leave your baby at the movie theater or library where it belongs.
2014-03-05 06:21:10 AM  
2 votes:
Having children should be outlawed, for my convenience.
2014-03-05 03:08:11 AM  
2 votes:
I'd just call the cops and say, "I don't know what's been going on, but there has been this terrible screaming coming from there for the last hour. I think you need to check it out."

By the time the hotel management caught wind of it, they would have moved the couple and their rugrat to another part of the resort.
2014-03-05 02:03:41 AM  
2 votes:

AverageAmericanGuy: I see parents taking their infant children out to dinner at 9 in the evening.


If I had a dollar for every time I see an infant or toddler being dragged along by its parents for dinner at 9pm, I'd be a rich sonofabiatch. I was in IHOP last week--because I wanted pancakes at 3am, and so did my friends--and there was an otherwise lovely couple just sitting there with a kid in a car seat. I swear I not only smelled shiat, but that kid started screaming about half an hour after I sat down.

Why is it not legal to beat a small child with a syrup dispenser? Why?!
2014-03-05 01:21:28 AM  
2 votes:
Their next vacation destination will likely be a two week cruise to nowhere.  The baby squawls might help drown out the sounds associated with projectile vomiting and explosive diarrhea of norovirus suffering shipmates.
2014-03-06 12:51:04 AM  
1 votes:

blindio: Right, that goddamn selfish baby, crying, and it doesn't care who it wakes up.  Stupid babies, amirite?


More like "goddamn selfish parents, not taking care of their screaming child." Of course, you can't really expect somebody with "blind" in their handle to pick up on such nuance...
2014-03-05 10:45:09 PM  
1 votes:
What adult in their right mind goes to bed sober enough to hear a baby crying?
2014-03-05 02:04:17 PM  
1 votes:

blindio: BayouOtter: Crazy thought - CANCEL THE farkING VACATION.

Crazy thought:  If someone else is upsetting you during your vacation, cancel your vacation, and stay at home and don't go out in public where you have to deal with other people.


Well the difference is that you as the parent knew that there was going to be a little shiat'n'scream machine there, so its your responsibility to not bring it. Its obvious you're a dumbass, though, because you're screwing with no protection and are incapable of family planning. How you manage to set up a vacation a year in advance is beyond me.So instead you just bullheaded plough on through with no concern for other people.

Personally, I wouldn't expect someone ti give up their non-refundable deposit because someone they'll never meet might be mildly inconvenienced.  Buck up and buy some earplugs if it bugs you so bad.


I wouldn't expect someone to drag their newborn on a vacation, but here you are, pushing the boundary of how stupid people can be. Let me just take a shiat on your shiat on your wife - just hose her off if it bothers you so badly.

I'm just saying it's possible.  My point is that they were not necessarily planning a vacation with a child in mind, and they don't mind taking turns to go do the vacation stuff that the baby can't participate in.  Maybe they don't even ski, maybe they just like the view.  If you don't like it, it's not their problem.  If you want to refund their vacation costs, they might take you up on it, but you're not the arbiter of what is and is not acceptable for them to do.

I'm as free to spoil their vacation as they are mine, then? Thats totally acceptable for me to deliberately spoil their time? Got it, thanks. Thats what you're saying here, basically - its alright to ruin other people's vacations but yours is sacrosanct. Maybe if your baby is wailing all night you should be refunding their vacation costs. Its only fair, right?

So.. you can generate pure hyperbole to support your argument, but if I propose a possibility I'm stupid.  Got it.  Then again, even though I'm pro-choice, I'm not sure I think abortion is a reasonable solution to finding out you're pregnant before you go on vacation.

Well, reasonable people would know how to not have babies on accident, you know, basic family planning. You counter that people would be stupid and pig-headed enough to drag a newborn along on their vacation, and I'm just extrapolating what else your idiots would likely do. As apparently everything and everyone around them is inconsequential and only their feelings and experiences matter.

I don't quite get how you think that adults are the only people allowed to be in public, or using public accommodations.  I'm sure you've guessed by now that I have children.

I think that you should be considerate of others. I assumed you're a parent, but I also rightly guessed that you're a self-centered prick that believes the world revolves around yourself and your children.

They're generally well behaved, and if they act up in a restaurant or some place like that I'll remove them, but it's not to accommodate other people, it's to teach them about how to behave in a public setting.

Yeah, exactly. fark other people and their feelings, its all about your control and following your rules. When I'm with my nieces and nephews and they act up, I apologize to the people they bothered because I'm responsible for those kids and therefore when they create a negative experience for others I'm responsible for that. I'd like for them to grow up and act well in public not because I correct them, but because its the right and polite thing to do in consideration of other people.

I don't dislike you for being a parent, I dislike you for being a shiatty parent who teaches his kids to be inconsiderate of others.


That said, the only feeling I have toward other parents who are dealing with crying babies or misbehaving children is sympathy and in some cases kinship.  I get that you and people like you think parenting should be a prison sentence, and I'm sorry it bothers you that the world doesn't work that way.  Good luck with that.

Some people think of empathy as a horrible torture, as consider for others a prison. We call them sociopaths. That would be you, buddy. Give your kids up for adoption and sterilize yourself - break the cycle.
2014-03-05 01:28:03 PM  
1 votes:
blindio: BayouOtter: Crazy thought - CANCEL THE farkING VACATION.

Crazy thought:  If someone else is upsetting you during your vacation, cancel your vacation, and stay at home and don't go out in public where you have to deal with other people.

Personally, I wouldn't expect someone ti give up their non-refundable deposit because someone they'll never meet might be mildly inconvenienced.  Buck up and buy some earplugs if it bugs you so bad.

I'm just saying it's possible.  My point is that they were not necessarily planning a vacation with a child in mind, and they don't mind taking turns to go do the vacation stuff that the baby can't participate in.  Maybe they don't even ski, maybe they just like the view.  If you don't like it, it's not their problem.  If you want to refund their vacation costs, they might take you up on it, but you're not the arbiter of what is and is not acceptable for them to do.

BayouOtter: Talk about farking stupid - then again you're postulating a situation where these people are too stupid to use condoms, birth control, spermicide, or abortion.


BayouOtter: but their farking parents know exactly what they are doing when they waltz into a nice restaurant with a screaming baby with shiat dribbling from its pampers.

So.. you can generate pure hyperbole to support your argument, but if I propose a possibility I'm stupid.  Got it.  Then again, even though I'm pro-choice, I'm not sure I think abortion is a reasonable solution to finding out you're pregnant before you go on vacation.


I don't quite get how you think that adults are the only people allowed to be in public, or using public accommodations.  I'm sure you've guessed by now that I have children.  They're generally well behaved, and if they act up in a restaurant or some place like that I'll remove them, but it's not to accommodate other people, it's to teach them about how to behave in a public setting.  That said, the only feeling I have toward other parents who are dealing with crying ba ...
2014-03-05 11:34:05 AM  
1 votes:

ReapTheChaos: cwolf20: blindio: Oh good, another "don't be so selfish and think of other people" thread where people selfishly whine about being inconvenienced by someone else's child.  There wasn't enough hypocrisy in the Politics tab so why not.

FTFA:  We need more people who think of others and less selfish ones.

Right, that goddamn selfish baby, crying, and it doesn't care who it wakes up.  Stupid babies, amirite?

Here's a thought: for a lot of people the planning window for a big vacation might be 12-18 months in advance, and the gestation period for a human baby is 10 months.  You could plan the vacation in advance and end up with a surprise in the interim.  Maybe go on vacation somewhere that you can get a decent hotel room that doesn't have paper thin walls or stay home if you can't afford it, because most likely if it wasn't the baby this idiot was pissed about it would have been the hours of screaming and moaning in the effort to inconvenience the people at next years vacation with a baby crying.

It could be worse.

A note isn't as bad as a hotel sending security to the door with the first of 3 warnings. But then my roommates didn't have a baby. We just had a hyperactive semi-drunk cosplayer lesbian.

1st warning- shut up

2nd warning- our guest gets thrown out preferably via the window.  But security has to be polite so she gets to use the elevator and entrance.

3) we get thrown out without a refund.

Basically some whiny twit forgot the value of knocking on our door or heaven forbid using the phone to dial our room number.

Why should they? First off, common courtesy should be enough to keep you from making a bunch of noise in a hotel room in the first place. This is a classic example of you trying to put the responsibility for your actions on others. Second, if I hear a group of drunks making a lot of noise, I'm not going to stick my nose into it, you never know how people are going to react in this day and age. Thy're just as likely to punch you in the face or ...


My listing of the warnings were purely what the security guard read off to my DragonCon roommate who chooses as a fit toned man to go topless the entire weekend for his own enjoyment and enjoyment of the various females.  He shocked the guard into a few seconds of silence when he answered the door.

The following year was interesting though. She was our roommate that time.  And a security guard used polite words to explain to us as we were walking her out to DragonCon, that the hotel frowns upon whores. And we need to cover her up and take her back to her pimp as soon as possible.

Actual wording "This is a high class hotel and she is wearing an outfit that could.. cause certain gentlemen to make unseemly advances.  Please get her out quickly and take her back where she belongs"

DragonCon is such a high class shindig, that anything less than victorian costume must be unseemly.

I love Ritz-Carlton downtown Atlanta where the parking has a 30 percent chance of your window being smashed in on your car and various things being stolen. Don't you?
2014-03-05 10:39:03 AM  
1 votes:
Oh good, another "don't be so selfish and think of other people" thread where people selfishly whine about being inconvenienced by someone else's child.  There wasn't enough hypocrisy in the Politics tab so why not.

FTFA:  We need more people who think of others and less selfish ones.

Right, that goddamn selfish baby, crying, and it doesn't care who it wakes up.  Stupid babies, amirite?

Here's a thought: for a lot of people the planning window for a big vacation might be 12-18 months in advance, and the gestation period for a human baby is 10 months.  You could plan the vacation in advance and end up with a surprise in the interim.  Maybe go on vacation somewhere that you can get a decent hotel room that doesn't have paper thin walls or stay home if you can't afford it, because most likely if it wasn't the baby this idiot was pissed about it would have been the hours of screaming and moaning in the effort to inconvenience the people at next years vacation with a baby crying.
2014-03-05 10:31:52 AM  
1 votes:
TanHamster:
His AZ grandparents will remember the early 1st birthday that we celebrated.  Those memories are worth the 5-10 minutes of crying and 1 wet diaper change.


Crazy idea, but maybe the grandparents could have flown to New York? More reasonable than the three hours (sorry, five minutes) your shiatmachine was screaming.

You're a still a selfish jackhole.
2014-03-05 09:50:30 AM  
1 votes:
Hey, if you take up 1.5 seats on a plane buy both seats. If you bring your kid to an accepted adults only or family get away location of a civilized nature and it is going to cry buy the rooms around you. If you bring a baby to a bar or restraunt during times parents get babysitters to have adult time buy the place a round or stay home for a few years. Oh wait... No one will babysit for you and even your parents won't watch your kid? Reevaluate your life... You're doing it wrong and so will your kids.
2014-03-05 09:50:09 AM  
1 votes:

sjcousins: Ready-set: Yeah. Having children means making sacrifices. Too many parents have the 'my child is special and belongs everywhere at all times' mentality.

You can't have it both ways.

And too many people have the 'I'm special and deserve to never be mildly inconvenienced anywhere I go' mentality.


Keep that thought for when I'm using an air horn in your ear.
2014-03-05 09:40:42 AM  
1 votes:

TanHamster: I'm sure your baby will fondly remember Wicked and the Statue of Liberty forever from its unforgettable vacation. Those memories are worth terrorizing a hundred strangers for hours with continuous screaming and the foul stenches of a dead skunk drowned in a port-a-john.


I'm sure your baby will fondly remember the beautiful Arizona sights and the glorious vision of the desert forever from its unforgettable vacation to Arizona. Those memories are worth terrorizing a hundred strangers for hours with continuous screaming and the foul stenches of a dead skunk drowned in a port-a-john.

There you go.
2014-03-05 09:24:35 AM  
1 votes:
TanHamster:
Just flew out to AZ (from upstate NY) with our 11 month-old, and it was definitely stressful whenever he cried.  The reason it was stressful:  because I assume that everyone else on that airplane is a young, male, childfree Farker, pretty much the most hostile, least-sympathetic demographic one could possibly imagine.  I was stressed because I could just imagine everyone furiously typing anti-baby rants on their adorable little iDevices.

Maybe next time you'll just drive your screaming shiat machine, instead of imposing on them for your own convenience. Then you'd have no need to worry about being hating you for being an asshole!
2014-03-05 09:22:25 AM  
1 votes:

GCD: Just got back from a week in Florida with our 9-month old son. We expected the worst, but aside from a few minor outbursts (which 9-month old kids tend to have), the kid was a champ for the entire trip.

First flight? I figured I'd be buying those little bottles of airplane booze for us and everyone else. I even had budgeted for it. But nope, the kid proved me entirely wrong. No problems at all. Maybe a little more fuss than usual on take off and landing, but not unbearable by any means (and compared to some of the older kids on the plane he was a saint).

Flight home? He was a little more fussy, but we had the red-eye, so his routine was off...and again, compared to the several other hellions that were around us, this kid was golden. He slept for 90% of the trip...while the 2-year old behind us was a pure holy terror (to the point where the flight attendant had to step in).

I will readily admit that he was a little fussy at times, but again...he's 9-months old (and we suspect he's teething), plus he's off his regular routine. When we went out to breakfast and he was awesome....dinners were a little more fussy though because they were a little later than his usual bedtime, but he was still good...and it wasn't like we sat there and stuffed our faces while he screamed bloody murder...our meals would be cold by the time we got to eat them.

Believe me...when it's "your kid" doing the screaming...it sucks.



Just flew out to AZ (from upstate NY) with our 11 month-old, and it was definitely stressful whenever he cried.  The reason it was stressful:  because I assume that everyone else on that airplane is a young, male, childfree Farker, pretty much the most hostile, least-sympathetic demographic one could possibly imagine.  I was stressed because I could just imagine everyone furiously typing anti-baby rants on their adorable little iDevices.

It was interesting, because normally I'm 100% focused on the baby if he's crying, trying to address his anguish.  But not so on an airplane, where the priority is to thwart the looks and comments from the evolutionary cul-de-sacs.
2014-03-05 08:49:01 AM  
1 votes:
ace in your face: I dunno what age this baby is, but I started skiing at 2. My daughter just turned 3 and still sometimes has night terrors or growing pains (or tantrums) and will scream at night for a bit. We are taking her to a swanky ski area next weekend in the Alps (because we live in Germany). I don't see anything inappropriate about it. I don't see anything inappropriate about taking an infant to a ski resort. there are lots of activities other than skiing and maybe only one parent is a skier anyway. I've been kept up by all kinds of noises in hotels, usually by adults, so suck it up buttercup. In addition to the mention of kids out after 9, not every kid is on the same schedule. My husband started working late so we pushed back dinner and bedtime. My daughter is perfectly capable of staying up late, and then she sleeps in later. It's past 10am now and I am still waiting on her. Kids are not all the same and parenting is not just done one way.
2014-03-05 07:46:15 AM  
1 votes:

DittoToo: I took my daughter to see the Lego movie tonight.  She's whatever years old.  It doesn't mater because it was the theater's designated kids showing for the day.  Early screening and on a Tuesday.  We were the only ones with a kid.  Kid was going "Oh no!!!" and "Yeh!" and "Wowwaahh!" and I could hear the adults around us hissing between their teeth every time.  Not all, mind you, but enough.  I wish one of them would have had the audacity to say something but it never happened.  I would have enjoyed explaining the concept of kids night to them.


www.moviequotesandmore.com
Lance: Still got your daughter?
Vincent: Aw, man. You know what some farker did the other day?
Lance: What?
Vincent: farking hissed at her.
Lance: Oh, man, that's farked up.
Vincent: Tell me about it. I've had her for five years, she was at the movies for 10 minutes and some dickless piece of shiat hissed at her.
Lance: They should be farking killed. No trial, no jury, straight to execution.
Vincent: Boy, I wish I could've caught him doing it. I'd have given anything to catch that asshole doing it. It'd been worth him doing it just so I could've caught him doing it.
Lance: What a farker!
Vincent: What's more chickenshiat than hissing at a man's daughter? I mean, don't fark with another man's daughter.
Lance: You don't do it.
Vincent: It's just against the rules.
2014-03-05 07:40:38 AM  
1 votes:
this is a perfect reason to deploy the alarm clock bomb.  Its when you leave your hotel, place the alarm clock against the wall behind a pillow,set it to go off as soon as you leave, place the do not disturb sign on your door knob, and leave for the day. The alarm clock bomb is also best accompanied by periodically calling the pest neighbors' room and accusing the tenants of things like loudly having sex while being fat, arguing about what time it is, etc.  They WILL ask to switch rooms.  I do this to pest neighbors while on business trips.
2014-03-05 06:38:10 AM  
1 votes:
If the restaurant has silverware, don't bring your little nose miners.

If it has a ball pit, feel free.

For restaurants that have neither, use your discretion.

Your kids are 10% as cute as you think they are, and 1000% more annoying. You cannot understand this, however, because you are not objective and a lousy parent.
2014-03-05 05:39:53 AM  
1 votes:

AverageAmericanGuy: I see parents taking their infant children out to dinner at 9 in the evening. I hear people talk about getting "parent time" and pawning the little kids off on babysitters. There are stories like this where parents are taking their babies to places inappropriate for them.

Being a parent means making some sacrifices. But somehow, somewhere along the line that concept was thrown out and parents just became selfish, self-centered brats for whom the baby is just an accessory to be gawked at by strangers.


Came here to say this but with more disgust. I think the sun is setting on the cults of baby praise and mommy goddesses in America. I'm running into more and more people, parents and non-parents, who are seeing it as the absolute bullshiat advertisement it is.

Oh and everyone loves you and your baby. You and your awkward, bratty nine-year old? Not so much. Think about your motivation for wanting a child. If it is anything outside of absolute love, get a more robust hobby.
2014-03-05 05:04:04 AM  
1 votes:

sjcousins: Ready-set: Yeah. Having children means making sacrifices. Too many parents have the 'my child is special and belongs everywhere at all times' mentality.

You can't have it both ways.

And too many people have the 'I'm special and deserve to never be mildly inconvenienced anywhere I go' mentality.


I'm managing to tolorate your stupidity with grace and aplomb.
2014-03-05 03:50:48 AM  
1 votes:

Ready-set: Yeah. Having children means making sacrifices. Too many parents have the 'my child is special and belongs everywhere at all times' mentality.

You can't have it both ways.


And too many people have the 'I'm special and deserve to never be mildly inconvenienced anywhere I go' mentality.
2014-03-05 02:56:42 AM  
1 votes:
I have kids myself, and let me tell you this: that letter is not very effective.

What would be effective would be to wait for the kid to finally fall asleep, wait 5 minutes, and then start playing loud music and bang on the walls.

/Any weapon can be turned against it's owner
2014-03-05 02:54:26 AM  
1 votes:

SeaMan Stainz: Leave the crotch fruit at home assholes!


It takes a village to raise a child, so man up and do your part, Villager.
2014-03-05 02:47:52 AM  
1 votes:

Summer Glau's Love Slave: Back when the third LOTR came out I went to to 10:00 PM showing, and a couple of breeders had their 3 kids with them. The oldest kid was maybe 8, and the littlest was a baby.

/Some people.


breeders huh

im guessing you are not
keep it up - i thank you
2014-03-05 02:44:52 AM  
1 votes:

ambercat: In other cultures, parents feel shame when their children cause trouble for other adults. If children are acting out in public, it's acceptable for any adult around to tell them to knock it off, even threaten to tell their parents if their parent isn't nearby. Those cultures always have better behaved children. Wonder why?



I disagree.  Americans are the least tolerant of children when it comes to public dining.
2014-03-05 02:44:24 AM  
1 votes:
Leave the crotch fruit at home assholes!
2014-03-05 02:43:24 AM  
1 votes:

ambercat: In other cultures, parents feel shame when their children cause trouble for other adults. If children are acting out in public, it's acceptable for any adult around to tell them to knock it off, even threaten to tell their parents if their parent isn't nearby. Those cultures always have better behaved children. Wonder why?

The idea that you can't say anything to anybody else's kids and you should take offense if someone notices your child is screaming their head off in public is leading to spoiled, self-centered little assholes who put no value in being considerate to others.


So... Americans, basically.
2014-03-05 02:39:52 AM  
1 votes:

piltdown: Oh good, a "hate the breeders" thread.  These are always funny.


I don't get these threads.  Seether was a great song.
2014-03-05 02:29:31 AM  
1 votes:
probably written by a snowboarder
2014-03-05 02:02:50 AM  
1 votes:
While I agree with the author's premise, the grammar in that letter is atrocious.
 
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