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(Daily Mail)   Due to the very frigid winter in the Northeastern United States, Niagara Falls has come to a halt after freezing over again   (dailymail.co.uk ) divider line
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2014-03-04 05:31:56 PM  
COOL!
 
2014-03-04 05:48:24 PM  
Slowly I turned...
 
2014-03-04 06:15:22 PM  
It is pretty neat to see like that, but I wonder if it's affecting the power plant...
 
2014-03-04 06:16:04 PM  
Damn that global warming disrupting that damn polar vortex again
 
2014-03-04 06:19:03 PM  
Okay, that is pretty awesome.
 
2014-03-04 06:19:09 PM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: Slowly I turned...


Step by step...
 
2014-03-04 06:19:32 PM  
I would like to see that in person, and to try to take some sweet photos of the falls.
 
2014-03-04 06:20:12 PM  
The pirate industry must be booming
 
2014-03-04 06:21:35 PM  
I was there in '69 when the American side was shut off.
 
2014-03-04 06:22:02 PM  
You do know the falls are behind a low dam, right? The river feeding it from the lake is only a few feet deep and they installed a flow regulator that has slowed the erosion. Some day in the future the falls will eat back to the lake and wash out in one land scouring, coastline changing blowout as the great lakes all try to come to the same level as the lower Niagara river.
 
2014-03-04 06:22:06 PM  

buckeyebrain: MaudlinMutantMollusk: Slowly I turned...

Step by step...


Inch by inch.
 
2014-03-04 06:26:38 PM  
Dennis Quaid seen strapping on his boots...


/Randy Quaid seen strapping on his IHOP apron
 
2014-03-04 06:26:39 PM  
No, it has not "frozen over". I was there last weekend with Mrs Snuffybud on a getaway weekend. There's lots of ice at the Falls, just like there is this time EVERY YEAR. Millions of gallons are still flowing over it as I write.
 
2014-03-04 06:26:51 PM  

stirfrybry: Damn that global warming disrupting that damn polar vortex again


i58.tinypic.com

Because that picture makes about as much sense as your post.
 
IP
2014-03-04 06:28:32 PM  

Whatchoo Talkinbout: buckeyebrain: MaudlinMutantMollusk: Slowly I turned...

Step by step...

Inch by inch.


...I crept up on him...
 
2014-03-04 06:29:47 PM  
This is not supposed to happen !
 
2014-03-04 06:31:35 PM  

vudukungfu: I was there in '69 when the American side was shut off.


Ahh Niagara falls in the 60s, when you could walk out and try to touch them,

img.fark.net
 
2014-03-04 06:31:57 PM  

ladyfortuna: It is pretty neat to see like that, but I wonder if it's affecting the power plant...


I doubt it because just like every picture in the article shows, the headline and article writer don't understand what the word halt means.

It would have to be some 'Day After Tomorrow' type super-sub-zero cyclone to even slow the flow.

What is being shown is surface water and mist freezing to everything.
 
2014-03-04 06:32:55 PM  

fusillade762: stirfrybry: Damn that global warming disrupting that damn polar vortex again

[i58.tinypic.com image 576x518]

Because that picture makes about as much sense as your post.


I feel sorry you're so ignorant
 
2014-03-04 06:38:52 PM  
bearingdrift.com
 
2014-03-04 06:41:28 PM  
Thanks a lot, Al Gore!
 
2014-03-04 06:43:47 PM  

stirfrybry: fusillade762: stirfrybry: Damn that global warming disrupting that damn polar vortex again

[i58.tinypic.com image 576x518]

Because that picture makes about as much sense as your post.

I feel sorry you're so ignorant


I'm sorry your face is so ignorant.
 
2014-03-04 06:45:02 PM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: Slowly I turned...


You won...
 
2014-03-04 06:46:21 PM  

IP: Whatchoo Talkinbout: buckeyebrain: MaudlinMutantMollusk: Slowly I turned...

Step by step...

Inch by inch.

...I crept up on him...


...and I bashed him, I crashed him, and I knocked him down.

Moe?
 
2014-03-04 06:52:22 PM  
Seriously, so when the Falls start to thaw, does it flood further down river? Do those big blocks of ice break off and become deadly river ice bergs?
 
2014-03-04 06:52:52 PM  
Can it back up enough to hose out Detroit? 'Cuz that would be okeley dokeley I reckon.
 
2014-03-04 06:53:03 PM  

wildcardjack: You do know the falls are behind a low dam, right? The river feeding it from the lake is only a few feet deep and they installed a flow regulator that has slowed the erosion. Some day in the future the falls will eat back to the lake and wash out in one land scouring, coastline changing blowout as the great lakes all try to come to the same level as the lower Niagara river.


Apparently the falls may actually eventually level out into rapids due to the differing geology of the upriver islands and river channels.

http://www.niagaraparks.com/about-niagara-falls/geology-facts-figure s. html
 
2014-03-04 06:53:58 PM  
I would go and visit my grandma in Niagara Falls where my dad grew up, and I remember the frozen "falls" and the ice clinging to the rails (that they show in the pictures) when we visited near X-mas.  My uncle worked on the power station and almost died when his crane fell into the gorge.  My family has a lot of stories about the falls and the Niagara river.
 
2014-03-04 06:58:24 PM  
Yet, if I leave water trickling from my faucet, my pipes (apparently) won't freeze.

Science: How does it work?

No, seriously... how does that work? If the rushing water of Niagra can freeze up, how does the ever-so-slowly running water in pipes not freeze in an extended sub-freezing environment?
 
2014-03-04 07:02:31 PM  

IRQ12: ladyfortuna: It is pretty neat to see like that, but I wonder if it's affecting the power plant...

I doubt it because just like every picture in the article shows, the headline and article writer don't understand what the word halt means.

It would have to be some 'Day After Tomorrow' type super-sub-zero cyclone to even slow the flow.

What is being shown is surface water and mist freezing to everything.


IIRC, they froze to the point of stopping sometime in the 1880s. I guess it was really farking cold in the 1880s.
 
2014-03-04 07:09:02 PM  

PunkTiger: Yet, if I leave water trickling from my faucet, my pipes (apparently) won't freeze.

Science: How does it work?

No, seriously... how does that work? If the rushing water of Niagra can freeze up, how does the ever-so-slowly running water in pipes not freeze in an extended sub-freezing environment?


It doesn't stop the pipes from freezing, it stops them from bursting when they freeze.
 
2014-03-04 07:14:27 PM  

ladyfortuna: It is pretty neat to see like that, but I wonder if it's affecting the power plant...


Well, my lights are still on so...probably not.
 
2014-03-04 07:14:50 PM  

jigger: IRQ12: ladyfortuna: It is pretty neat to see like that, but I wonder if it's affecting the power plant...

I doubt it because just like every picture in the article shows, the headline and article writer don't understand what the word halt means.

It would have to be some 'Day After Tomorrow' type super-sub-zero cyclone to even slow the flow.

What is being shown is surface water and mist freezing to everything.

IIRC, they froze to the point of stopping sometime in the 1880s. I guess it was really farking cold in the 1880s.


It was so cold Eskimoes were pissed
 
2014-03-04 07:15:14 PM  

Tatterdemalian: PunkTiger: Yet, if I leave water trickling from my faucet, my pipes (apparently) won't freeze.

Science: How does it work?

No, seriously... how does that work? If the rushing water of Niagra can freeze up, how does the ever-so-slowly running water in pipes not freeze in an extended sub-freezing environment?

It doesn't stop the pipes from freezing, it stops them from bursting when they freeze.


No, it stops the water inside from freezing. Hint: running water isn't frozen.
 
2014-03-04 07:16:52 PM  

PunkTiger: No, seriously... how does that work? If the rushing water of Niagra can freeze up, how does the ever-so-slowly running water in pipes not freeze in an extended sub-freezing environment?


The falls haven't slowed at all, slow moving surface water and mist freezing create an illusion of sorts.
If you were actually standing near them, that loud roaring sound gives it away pretty quickly.

Same with your pipes. The outer sides of the pipe will freeze, but the center of the pipe is still moving the same amount of water, at a slightly greater pressure.
 
2014-03-04 07:18:51 PM  

jigger: IRQ12: ladyfortuna: It is pretty neat to see like that, but I wonder if it's affecting the power plant...

I doubt it because just like every picture in the article shows, the headline and article writer don't understand what the word halt means.

It would have to be some 'Day After Tomorrow' type super-sub-zero cyclone to even slow the flow.

What is being shown is surface water and mist freezing to everything.

IIRC, they froze to the point of stopping sometime in the 1880s. I guess it was really farking cold in the 1880s.


Not really, at worst there might have been some coverage of the rapids section upriver, there's no way a river like Niagara comes to a complete stop. There was an impressive ice buildup in the 1880's that completely shielded the American falls from view, my great grandmother had a cool 3d stereoscope picture on if that was in a box she brought with her when she came to live with us in the 1990's.
 
2014-03-04 07:19:18 PM  

nytmare: Tatterdemalian: PunkTiger: Yet, if I leave water trickling from my faucet, my pipes (apparently) won't freeze.

Science: How does it work?

No, seriously... how does that work? If the rushing water of Niagra can freeze up, how does the ever-so-slowly running water in pipes not freeze in an extended sub-freezing environment?

It doesn't stop the pipes from freezing, it stops them from bursting when they freeze.

No, it stops the water inside from freezing. Hint: running water isn't frozen.


My guess is the water gets drawn beyond the coldest areas before it can get cold enough to freeze.  With Niagara, there's plenty of time to chill the water before it gets to the falls.
 
2014-03-04 07:27:51 PM  
The water for the power projects actually gets taken from the river above the falls and fed by channels to reservoirs further down by the escarpment where it is then fed to the power projects/turbines and flow out near Lewiston/Queenston.
 
2014-03-04 07:28:51 PM  

jigger: IRQ12: ladyfortuna: It is pretty neat to see like that, but I wonder if it's affecting the power plant...

I doubt it because just like every picture in the article shows, the headline and article writer don't understand what the word halt means.

It would have to be some 'Day After Tomorrow' type super-sub-zero cyclone to even slow the flow.

What is being shown is surface water and mist freezing to everything.

IIRC, they froze to the point of stopping sometime in the 1880s. I guess it was really farking cold in the 1880s.


"But it was from Buffalo that word eventually arrived that explained the bare falls and dry riverbed. Strong southwest gale winds had pushed huge chunks of lake ice to the extreme northeastern tip of Lake Erie, blocking the lake's outlet into the head of the Niagara River. The ice  jam had become an ice  dam ".

That's a bit different.


Tatterdemalian: PunkTiger: Yet, if I leave water trickling from my faucet, my pipes (apparently) won't freeze.

Science: How does it work?

No, seriously... how does that work? If the rushing water of Niagra can freeze up, how does the ever-so-slowly running water in pipes not freeze in an extended sub-freezing environment?

It doesn't stop the pipes from freezing, it stops them from bursting when they freeze.


No, it's keeps the water from freezing in the pipes because they are being supplied with above freezing water.  Even a tiny bit is enough to offset the outer air cooling.
 
2014-03-04 07:30:11 PM  

robodog: jigger:IIRC, they froze to the point of stopping sometime in the 1880s. I guess it was really farking cold in the 1880s.

Not really, at worst there might have been some coverage of the rapids section upriver, there's no way a river like Niagara comes to a complete stop. There was an impressive ice buildup in the 1880's that completely shielded the American falls from view, my great grandmother had a cool 3d stereoscope picture on if that was in a box she brought with her when she came to live with us in the 1990's.


Yeah, you aren't going to completely stop up the Horseshoe Falls, and if you do, you're going to have to find a place to put an awful lot of water. The American Falls have dried up a few times, but that's because they're fed by a narrow, shallow channel that is easily susceptible to ice dams forming for a day or two before they break up and full flow is restored. As I recall, only about 5% of the total flow over the falls goes to the American Falls side.

Better yet, the Army Corp of Engineers purposefully dammed up the river leading to the American Falls in the late '60s to do some rock abatement at the brink of the falls (they thought about trying to remove the talus at the bottom, too, but decided not to). There are some cool pictures of dudes working right on the brink of the cliff.

cms.tng-secure.com
 
2014-03-04 07:30:20 PM  

gas giant: PunkTiger: No, seriously... how does that work? If the rushing water of Niagra can freeze up, how does the ever-so-slowly running water in pipes not freeze in an extended sub-freezing environment?

The falls haven't slowed at all, slow moving surface water and mist freezing create an illusion of sorts.
If you were actually standing near them, that loud roaring sound gives it away pretty quickly.

Same with your pipes. The outer sides of the pipe will freeze, but the center of the pipe is still moving the same amount of water, at a slightly greater pressure.


If this is the quality of FARKers science education, no wonder so many fall for the AGW schtick.
 
2014-03-04 07:35:21 PM  

jigger: IRQ12: ladyfortuna: It is pretty neat to see like that, but I wonder if it's affecting the power plant...

I doubt it because just like every picture in the article shows, the headline and article writer don't understand what the word halt means.

It would have to be some 'Day After Tomorrow' type super-sub-zero cyclone to even slow the flow.

What is being shown is surface water and mist freezing to everything.

IIRC, they froze to the point of stopping sometime in the 1880s. I guess it was really farking cold in the 1880s.


Methinks that might be after Krakatoa erupted. The winters that followed that eruption helped contribute to massive crop failure and dropped the temperatures in the winter. My memory of everything is rusty, but I do believe it was a factor in the Potato Famine.
 
2014-03-04 07:37:16 PM  

Anastacya: Methinks that might be after Krakatoa erupted. The winters that followed that eruption helped contribute to massive crop failure and dropped the temperatures in the winter. My memory of everything is rusty, but I do believe it was a factor in the Potato Famine.


Ah yes, Krakatoa. That probably explains the cold.
But wasn't the Potato Famine in the 1840s?
 
2014-03-04 07:38:16 PM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: Slowly I turned...


Came for this
 
2014-03-04 07:39:20 PM  

buckeyebrain: MaudlinMutantMollusk: Slowly I turned...

Step by step...


Inch by inch...
 
2014-03-04 07:40:55 PM  

jigger: Anastacya: Methinks that might be after Krakatoa erupted. The winters that followed that eruption helped contribute to massive crop failure and dropped the temperatures in the winter. My memory of everything is rusty, but I do believe it was a factor in the Potato Famine.

Ah yes, Krakatoa. That probably explains the cold.
But wasn't the Potato Famine in the 1840s?


Yea, I just went back to analyze my statement and I'm mistaken. Krakatoa, though, was 1883, so I'm right about that at least.

/mea culpa
//recovering from a migraine so my average is lower
///*rubs temples*
 
2014-03-04 07:41:23 PM  
So is the word "video" mean something different to Brits than it does for Yanks?  Like chips or crackers?  Because putting a bunch of stills in a window and adding sound sure isn't a video to me.
 
2014-03-04 07:42:08 PM  

Snuffybud: No, it has not "frozen over". I was there last weekend with Mrs Snuffybud on a getaway weekend. There's lots of ice at the Falls, just like there is this time EVERY YEAR. Millions of gallons are still flowing over it as I write.


The flowing water is under the ice, which is frozen over, tho the falls are not completely "halted" as claimed.
 
2014-03-04 07:45:15 PM  
Punk Tiger

Yet, if I leave water trickling from my faucet, my pipes (apparently) won't freeze.

Science: How does it work?

No, seriously... how does that work? If the rushing water of Niagra can freeze up, how does the ever-so-slowly running water in pipes not freeze in an extended sub-freezing environment?


   Water that is moving doesn't freeze. The ice is forming from the mist and drips hitting the frozen rock which will seed more ice and even produce a lens over the flowing water. As an ice climber I am ever vigilant about the thickness and location of ice in relation to water flow, my life depends on it. http://youtu.be/UDuqQY8uWnA   You will notice the fairly heavy flow of water and that I am nowhere near it. It was about -25 degrees on this particular day, any warmer and I wouldn't be climbing something with that high of flow.....unless I was angry or having bad woman troubles....but that is a whole other story....
 
2014-03-04 08:09:49 PM  
It was so cold, Rob Fords crack pipe froze
 
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