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2014-03-04 04:22:04 PM  
It's starting to feel like 1983 again.
99 Luftballonsgo by!
 
2014-03-04 04:29:48 PM  
Yay, my 100th green! It's not necessarily by best one... (this one is probably my recent best) but it does herald the upcoming WWIII apocalypse. So it's got that going for it, which is nice.
 
2014-03-04 04:33:45 PM  
That's Armageddon!

/"Hey, Yuri! Do you think these things still work?"
 
2014-03-04 04:41:41 PM  
A Topol RS-12M missile was launched from Russia's Kapustin Yar test range near the Caspian Sea to the Sary Shagan range in Kazakhstan

img.fark.net
 
2014-03-04 04:52:14 PM  
l1.yimg.com

Oh, shiat.

/Just watched it last night, too.
 
2014-03-04 04:52:30 PM  
Well, that's good to know.
 
2014-03-04 04:55:09 PM  
Sweet Jeebus, someone get Putin a Snickers bar.
 
2014-03-04 04:55:51 PM  
Scheduled months ago and all nuclear powers were notified ahead of the launch. Still somewhat poignant timing (though coincidental).
 
2014-03-04 04:57:25 PM  
China, Russia, Best Korea, and Pakistan vs. THE WORLD
 
2014-03-04 04:57:29 PM  

The Stealth Hippopotamus: Sweet Jeebus, someone get Putin a Snickers bar.


http://erickbrockway.files.wordpress.com/2013/04/20130407-201727.jpg ?w =700

Anyone care to rework this image?
 
2014-03-04 04:58:47 PM  
Oh, I've wasted my life.
 
2014-03-04 05:00:00 PM  
 
2014-03-04 05:01:30 PM  
I wonder how many critical pieces of various Russian delivery platforms and ordnance have been scrapped for some extra spending money by people with access to them. I'm picturing a Russian jet taking off and the landing gear just stays on the runway as the plan lifts off.
 
2014-03-04 05:03:32 PM  

Headso: I wonder how many critical pieces of various Russian delivery platforms and ordnance have been scrapped for some extra spending money by people with access to them. I'm picturing a Russian jet taking off and the landing gear just stays on the runway as the plan lifts off.



I'm guessing the bolts that hold the landing gear on wouldn't fetch as much as the jet engines.
 
2014-03-04 05:05:43 PM  
Oh great thanks, I was just wondering that.  Hey, what's the status of their nukes?
 
2014-03-04 05:06:11 PM  

Headso: I'm picturing a Russian jet taking off and the landing gear just stays on the runway as the plan lifts off.



www.writeups.org

Why the fark do I want a Su-34 that's got no farking wheels?
 
2014-03-04 05:11:14 PM  

Headso: I wonder how many critical pieces of various Russian delivery platforms and ordnance have been scrapped for some extra spending money by people with access to them. I'm picturing a Russian jet taking off and the landing gear just stays on the runway as the plan lifts off.


One of the reasons Ukraine isn't even thinking about putting up a fight is that they've done this with all their military equipment. It's not just aging, it is missing parts that were sold in the black market.
 
2014-03-04 05:11:57 PM  
'merica will kick all their asses!    we're #1!!  (and it only costs 700+ Billion a year to kick 'em!)
 
2014-03-04 05:12:00 PM  

lennavan: Oh great thanks, I was just wondering that.  Hey, what's the status of their nukes?


Same as ours, only slightly less of them.

And our subs generally don't sink in port.

Why are we making WWIII out of a minor incursion into Ukraine?
 
2014-03-04 05:13:49 PM  

FlashHarry: A Topol RS-12M missile was launched from Russia's Kapustin Yar test range near the Caspian Sea to the Sary Shagan range in Kazakhstan

[img.fark.net image 320x240]


I haven't changed.
 
2014-03-04 05:14:48 PM  

Gyrfalcon: lennavan: Oh great thanks, I was just wondering that.  Hey, what's the status of their nukes?

Same as ours, only slightly less of them.

And our subs generally don't sink in port.

Why are we making WWIII out of a minor incursion into Ukraine?



because Obama is an unamerican pussy who doesn't want to drown the world in nuclear fire over a dick measuring contest

Reagan would've. Cause he was a goddamn patriot
 
2014-03-04 05:15:32 PM  

Gyrfalcon: lennavan: Oh great thanks, I was just wondering that.  Hey, what's the status of their nukes?

Same as ours, only slightly less of them.

And our subs generally don't sink in port.

Why are we making WWIII out of a minor incursion into Ukraine?

I thought they had more in total numbers and that theirs carry bigger payloads right? Not sure if this is still true... but my understanding is that they made up for their less accurate guidance systems by jamming more nukish stuff in there and by negotiating arms limitation treaties that allowed them a few more nukes than us.

 
2014-03-04 05:16:03 PM  

Gyrfalcon: Why are we making WWIII out of a minor incursion into Ukraine?


And how was WWI kicked off?
 
2014-03-04 05:19:58 PM  
GIULIANI: Putin decides what he wants to do and he does it in half a day, right? He decided he had to go to their parliament. He went to their parliament. He got permission in 15 minutes.

CAVUTO: Well, that was kind of like perfunctory.

GIULIANI: But he makes a decision and he executes it, quickly. Then everybody reacts. That's what you call a leader. President Obama, he's got to think about it. He's got to go over it again. He's got to talk to more people about it.
 
2014-03-04 05:21:08 PM  
we got this

i1.wp.com
 
2014-03-04 05:22:06 PM  
obama unzip our big manly american cock and launch the missile

waggle it around a bit
 
2014-03-04 05:22:30 PM  

The Stealth Hippopotamus: Gyrfalcon: Why are we making WWIII out of a minor incursion into Ukraine?

And how was WWI kicked off?


I heard that it started when a bloke called Archie Duke shot an ostrich 'cause he was hungry.
 
2014-03-04 05:23:27 PM  
I was 3 when the last Cold War ended and have no recollection of it. Glad to see that I'll get to finally get to experience one :)
 
2014-03-04 05:23:53 PM  

The Stealth Hippopotamus: Gyrfalcon: Why are we making WWIII out of a minor incursion into Ukraine?

And how was WWI kicked off?


Gavrilo Princip farks off his assassination duty (after already farking it up twice) to go have a sandwich?

General farktardery when it came to European governance (lines of succession, and an obsession with making sure everyone's the right religion)?
 
2014-03-04 05:23:56 PM  

Gyrfalcon: lennavan: Oh great thanks, I was just wondering that.  Hey, what's the status of their nukes?

Same as ours, only slightly less of them.

And our subs generally don't sink in port.

Why are we making WWIII out of a minor incursion into Ukraine?


It sells ad space.
 
2014-03-04 05:26:02 PM  
d3ny4pswk2x1ig.cloudfront.net


Wanted for questioning...
 
2014-03-04 05:28:30 PM  
Well that's just tacky.
 
2014-03-04 05:29:36 PM  

kbronsito: Headso: I wonder how many critical pieces of various Russian delivery platforms and ordnance have been scrapped for some extra spending money by people with access to them. I'm picturing a Russian jet taking off and the landing gear just stays on the runway as the plan lifts off.

One of the reasons Ukraine isn't even thinking about putting up a fight is that they've done this with all their military equipment. It's not just aging, it is missing parts that were sold in the black market.


That, and the fact that about half of the population would side with Russia in a fight with them.
 
2014-03-04 05:29:38 PM  

Kiriyama9000: I was 3 when the last Cold War ended and have no recollection of it. Glad to see that I'll get to finally get to experience one :)


Oh, you're going to love it! Countries will do things for absolutely no logical reason whatsoever! It was thrilling!
 
2014-03-04 05:34:15 PM  

zamboni: Kiriyama9000: I was 3 when the last Cold War ended and have no recollection of it. Glad to see that I'll get to finally get to experience one :)

Oh, you're going to love it! Countries will do things for absolutely no logical reason whatsoever! It was thrilling!


And this
upload.wikimedia.org

This
upload.wikimedia.org

And this
img.fark.net

Will be in heavy rotation...


/the chair is against the wall...
 
2014-03-04 05:35:31 PM  

Dr Dreidel: Gavrilo Princip farks off his assassination duty (after already farking it up twice) to go have a sandwich?

General farktardery when it came to European governance (lines of succession, and an obsession with making sure everyone's the right religion)?


I was going with "minor act trumped up for political expedience". But yours works too.
 
2014-03-04 05:35:45 PM  

The Stealth Hippopotamus: Gyrfalcon: Why are we making WWIII out of a minor incursion into Ukraine?

And how was WWI kicked off?


When the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor.  Didn't you pay attention in Home Ec?
 
2014-03-04 05:39:41 PM  

Gyrfalcon: lennavan: Oh great thanks, I was just wondering that.  Hey, what's the status of their nukes?

Same as ours, only slightly less of them.

And our subs generally don't sink in port.

Why are we making WWIII out of a minor incursion into Ukraine?


Because it generates page clicks and campaign donations
 
2014-03-04 05:41:13 PM  

Jackson Herring: GIULIANI: Putin decides what he wants to do and he does it in half a day, right? He decided he had to go to their parliament. He went to their parliament. He got permission in 15 minutes.

CAVUTO: Well, that was kind of like perfunctory.

GIULIANI: But he makes a decision and he executes it, quickly. Then everybody reacts. That's what you call a leader. President Obama, he's got to think about it. He's got to go over it again. He's got to talk to more people about it.


This is the epic facepalm over all this.

If Obama was "decisive" and made swift action in Ukraine, threatened military action to back up the Ukrainians, ect, you'd hear a deafening Category 5 Derpstorm from the RNC/Right-Wing Blogosphere/FOX News about impeachment, about overstepping his power, about needing to get Congressional approval. . .just like happened with Syria.

If he DOESN'T do the above, instead he gets a derpstorm about how he's a pussy who won't be strong and decisive.

It's the usual "damned if you do, damned if you don't" bullshiat from the Reich-wingers, but this time it's farking geopolitics with Russia trying to rebuild the USSR and/or Russian Empire.
 
2014-03-04 05:42:12 PM  
Come on Obama you really need to nuke Sevestapol to seal your status as Histories biggest monster.
 
2014-03-04 05:43:03 PM  

The Stealth Hippopotamus: Gyrfalcon: Why are we making WWIII out of a minor incursion into Ukraine?

And how was WWI kicked off?


well the long snapper bungled the snap, the holder was quick to recover but didn't have the laces out & the kicker topped the damn ball, didn't even get it airborne.

we lost by 3 points.
 
2014-03-04 05:43:35 PM  

WHY WON'T OBAMA JUST LEAD?™

 
2014-03-04 05:44:14 PM  

The Stealth Hippopotamus: Dr Dreidel: Gavrilo Princip farks off his assassination duty (after already farking it up twice) to go have a sandwich?

General farktardery when it came to European governance (lines of succession, and an obsession with making sure everyone's the right religion)?

I was going with "minor act trumped up for political expedience". But yours works too.


We could do a whole series.

How was the Revolutionary War kicked off?
"Buncha uptight breech-wearers flamed KG3?"
"Tea sucks?"

How was the Second Iraq War kicked off?
"GW Bush misses a dart throw?"
"Cheney got sad he recommended against taking Baghdad in '91?"

How is babby formed?
"Instain mother?"
"Pary with father?"
 
2014-03-04 05:46:20 PM  
I'm sure Putin wants the Cold War back almost as much as th neo-cons
 
2014-03-04 05:52:28 PM  
Chalk up another Bay of Pigs for a Democrap. Only difference really is this one likes people killing unborn babies and thinks Jesus was a miscreant. Oh, and not a racist. At least this one isn't a racist.
 
2014-03-04 05:56:28 PM  

OregonVet: Chalk up another Bay of Pigs for a Democrap. Only difference really is this one likes people killing unborn babies and thinks Jesus was a miscreant. Oh, and not a racist. At least this one isn't a racist.


.5/10 Way too obvious. .5 for spelling and use of miscreant
 
2014-03-04 05:59:16 PM  
Well at least I got the anti-abortion and racist part right.
 
2014-03-04 06:02:41 PM  

Geotpf: kbronsito: Headso: I wonder how many critical pieces of various Russian delivery platforms and ordnance have been scrapped for some extra spending money by people with access to them. I'm picturing a Russian jet taking off and the landing gear just stays on the runway as the plan lifts off.

One of the reasons Ukraine isn't even thinking about putting up a fight is that they've done this with all their military equipment. It's not just aging, it is missing parts that were sold in the black market.

That, and the fact that about half of the population would side with Russia in a fight with them.


Not really. A significant number of Russian Ukranians, if not most of them, don't much care for Russia. (At least according to what my Russian friends from Odessa and their relatives). Although that are is more Ukranian so they may have a different take on it. Still... you can run a dictatorship with significantly lower level of support. If Putin can pry off say... 25-30-40 percent of the Russian population to his side, that is still a threat. Not only a military one, but those are people that he can get to vote to declare Crimea independent or part of Russia in some rigged referendum.
 
2014-03-04 06:10:27 PM  

OregonVet: Chalk up another Bay of Pigs for a Democrap. Only difference really is this one likes people killing unborn babies and thinks Jesus was a miscreant. Oh, and not a racist. At least this one isn't a racist.


Thanks. . .

I had you farkied as "Confirmed Troll" a long time ago, before I started appending thread numbers to where somebody earned their handle.  I didn't have a good exemplar of your trolling until this thread, so now you show up in that bright "Troll Red" and a note referencing this thread as an example of your repeated blatant trolling.

As to the trolling itself.  1/10, way too obvious.
 
2014-03-04 06:13:01 PM  

Vacation Bible School: zamboni: Kiriyama9000: I was 3 when the last Cold War ended and have no recollection of it. Glad to see that I'll get to finally get to experience one :)

Oh, you're going to love it! Countries will do things for absolutely no logical reason whatsoever! It was thrilling!

And this
[upload.wikimedia.org image 220x323]

This
[upload.wikimedia.org image 313x430]

And this
[img.fark.net image 600x399]

Will be in heavy rotation...


/the chair is against the wall...


Red Dawn always struck me as being written by two VERY different people.

It's got the RAH-RAH 'MURICA parts, but then there are the parts like the guy with the "FROM MY COLD, DEAD HAND" bumpersticker having a Russian soldier take his gun from his cold dead hand. And the INCREDIBLE downer of an ending.
 
2014-03-04 06:15:34 PM  

Silverstaff: Thanks. . .


You are welcome, Noodlie Guy That Just Shakes Tiny Fist.
 
2014-03-04 06:15:43 PM  
Don't worry, the targets haven't been updated since the 70s. This is good news for Detroit, which will be given a blank slate and miles of glowing glass parking lot.
 
2014-03-04 06:19:52 PM  

jj325: I'm sure Putin wants the Cold War back almost as much as th neo-cons


Probably more.

Everyone forgets, Putin was KGB. He used to be allowed to torture suspected Western sympathizers and play Spy vs. Spy with the CIA. He has been itching for this chance since he was a little tiny Soviet citizen.

I doubt that he'd unlimber the nukes, because Putin is also a post-Hiroshima soldier. But he would LOVE to be able to exert his influence over the New Soviet Union and spend zillions of rubles on useless hardware like back in the Good Old Days.
 
2014-03-04 06:30:25 PM  

Vacation Bible School: And this
[img.fark.net image 600x399]

Will be in heavy rotation...


Is it just me, or is that guy on the right pointing his weapon directly at the guy in the foreground?
 
2014-03-04 06:38:11 PM  
I hope all you yungins' who missed the 'cold war' can die in a mushroom cloud.
 
2014-03-04 06:45:27 PM  

Silverstaff: I had you farkied as "Confirmed Troll" a long time ago, before I started appending thread numbers to where somebody earned their handle. I didn't have a good exemplar of your trolling until this thread, so now you show up in that bright "Troll Red" and a note referencing this thread as an example of your repeated blatant trolling.


Wow. Impressive curating there, Lou.
 
2014-03-04 06:45:39 PM  

Gyrfalcon: lennavan: Oh great thanks, I was just wondering that.  Hey, what's the status of their nukes?

Same as ours, only slightly less of them.

And our subs generally don't sink in port.

Why are we making WWIII out of a minor incursion into Ukraine?


We didn't start WWIII when Russia invaded Georgia and seized South Ossetia.  We almost certainly won't start WWIII over Russia invading the Ukraine and seizing the Crimea.

Russia on the other hand is on track to start WWIII when it invades one country too many.  They are currently following the path that Germany did prior to WWII.
 
2014-03-04 07:05:50 PM  

Silverstaff: As to the trolling itself. 1/10, way too obvious.


easy grader, wish I had you in geometry
 
2014-03-04 07:19:18 PM  

Walker: It's starting to feel like 1983 again.
99 Luftballonsgo by!


Everyone's a superhero
Everyone's a Priceline Negotiator
 
2014-03-04 07:25:12 PM  

Gyrfalcon: lennavan: Oh great thanks, I was just wondering that.  Hey, what's the status of their nukes?

Same as ours, only slightly less of them.

And our subs generally don't sink in port.

Why are we making WWIII out of a minor incursion into Ukraine?


Other way around, actually.
 
2014-03-04 07:41:37 PM  

Mike_1962: Gyrfalcon: lennavan: Oh great thanks, I was just wondering that.  Hey, what's the status of their nukes?

Same as ours, only slightly less of them.

And our subs generally don't sink in port.

Why are we making WWIII out of a minor incursion into Ukraine?

Other way around, actually.


We're making a minor Ukraine into the incursion of WWIII?
 
2014-03-04 08:06:35 PM  
30.media.tumblr.com
 
2014-03-04 08:15:16 PM  
If only 1 country wants to play Cold War, and nobody else joins in....does the guy playing Cold War win?  Or does everyone else lose?
 
2014-03-04 08:30:04 PM  

DrSansabeltNoShiatSlacks: I hope all you yungins' who missed the 'cold war' can die in a mushroom cloud.


I don't see why you'd wish ill on those of us who missed it. Wishing ill on those who miss it and want it back, I can see...
 
2014-03-04 09:52:37 PM  

Dr Dreidel: The Stealth Hippopotamus: Gyrfalcon: Why are we making WWIII out of a minor incursion into Ukraine?

And how was WWI kicked off?

Gavrilo Princip farks off his assassination duty (after already farking it up twice) to go have a sandwich?

General farktardery when it came to European governance (lines of succession, and an obsession with making sure everyone's the right religion)?


Are you a Hardcore History fan too?
 
2014-03-04 09:53:37 PM  

evilmrsock: The Stealth Hippopotamus: Gyrfalcon: Why are we making WWIII out of a minor incursion into Ukraine?

And how was WWI kicked off?

I heard that it started when a bloke called Archie Duke shot an ostrich 'cause he was hungry.



You've been hanging around that college again, haven't you?
 
2014-03-04 09:55:20 PM  

CrackpipeCardozo: Headso: I'm picturing a Russian jet taking off and the landing gear just stays on the runway as the plan lifts off.


[www.writeups.org image 600x320]

Why the fark do I want a Su-34 that's got no farking wheels?


www.reactionface.info
 I read it in the pikey voice and laughed my dick off.  Now I'm dickless.

/Thanks, Obama.
 
2014-03-04 10:33:18 PM  
On one hand (the sociopath one) I want Russia and NATO to take off the gloves just to see what a conflict with advanced weapon (except strategic nukes) on both side would be like.
My sane hand hope they do so with painball gun.
 
2014-03-04 10:49:35 PM  
The fun part is realizing that the 30% Putin skimmed off the top of the $57 billion used to fund the SoCheap 2014 Olympics is paying for this post-Olympics foray into Crimea.
 
2014-03-04 10:51:29 PM  
Missile test was planned well ahead of the current conflict and the US was given a heads up.

Fark Humor strikes again!
 
2014-03-04 10:56:55 PM  
upload.wikimedia.org

Meh, we do 'em too. If you ever see this beautiful sight and don't live in a test area, time to duck and cover!

/Just like the photo
//Seemed appropriate for the thread
///MIRVed slashies limited to three by international treaty
 
2014-03-04 11:01:37 PM  
Subby, we don't know for sure their ICBMs work, we only know that one of them worked.  Given their penchant for funding and maintenance, that may be the only one.
 
2014-03-04 11:35:46 PM  
www.arcadesmarket.com

Pew, Pew, Pew!
 
2014-03-04 11:36:44 PM  

rohar: Subby, we don't know for sure their ICBMs work, we only know that one of them worked.  Given their penchant for funding and maintenance, that may be the only one.


rohar, this is Russia, not Best Korea.

We can be sure that the majority of their ICBMs will at least leave the silos.
 
2014-03-04 11:51:11 PM  

Gyrfalcon: rohar: Subby, we don't know for sure their ICBMs work, we only know that one of them worked.  Given their penchant for funding and maintenance, that may be the only one.

rohar, this is Russia, not Best Korea.

We can be sure that the majority of their ICBMs will at least leave the silos.


Pfft.  Really?  They had ballistic submarines on patrol for 15 years before they figured out how to launch a missile without incident.  Even after that, their testing has never been better than 50/50.
 
2014-03-05 12:00:40 AM  
They just need to protect their lebensraum, no biggie.
 
2014-03-05 12:10:12 AM  

rohar: Gyrfalcon: rohar: Subby, we don't know for sure their ICBMs work, we only know that one of them worked.  Given their penchant for funding and maintenance, that may be the only one.

rohar, this is Russia, not Best Korea.

We can be sure that the majority of their ICBMs will at least leave the silos.

Pfft.  Really?  They had ballistic submarines on patrol for 15 years before they figured out how to launch a missile without incident.  Even after that, their testing has never been better than 50/50.


Russia's military motto has always been "Quantity is a quality."  50/50 on 1,000 nukes is still 500 successful launches.
 
2014-03-05 01:01:42 AM  

Twist2005: They just need to protect their lebensraum, no biggie.


If the Nazis hadn't raped and murdered the peoples of western Russia, they probably would've helped them fight Stalin.
 
2014-03-05 01:01:52 AM  

rohar: Pfft.  Really?  They had ballistic submarines on patrol for 15 years before they figured out how to launch a missile without incident.  Even after that, their testing has never been better than 50/50.


It used to be "the bomber will always get through", but more recently the watchword is "the ICBM will always get through"

According to the most recent START annual report, Russia has just shy of 500 delivery vehicles: ICBMs, SLBMs (sub-launched), and bombers. Those delivery vehicles carry just shy of 1,500 warheads.

Say that half fail at launch. That's 250 left. Of those, half fail in flight. That's 125. Of those, another half fail to strike their targets. That's 75. Of those, half fail to detonate. That's 37. Say that America has a magic nuke-defense shield like SDI or the like that cuts that in half.

Even with a 50% rate of failure across five separate events, you still have 18 delivery vehicles make it, with potentially many more actual warheads (Russian MIRVs can hold up to 10 nukes each).That's at least 18 US cities or military bases that suffer catastrophic damage and casualties.

The point is, of course, that at least a few nukes will always get through. How many Manhattan Islands are we willing to loose? How many Chicagos or Los Angeles? Is it a fair trade if they destroy New York and DC, but we get Moscow, St. Petersburg, and Novosibirsk?
 
2014-03-05 01:06:05 AM  

kbronsito: Not really. A significant number of Russian Ukranians, if not most of them, don't much care for Russia. (At least according to what my Russian friends from Odessa and their relatives).


Of course they don't care much about Russia. But would they actually fight against Russian troops? They will not. If there is a fight between Russia and Ukraine, half of Ukraine is sitting it out.

That said, there shouldn't be. It would be extremely unpopular move for Putin domestically. A little sabble-rattling and "saving our brothers" is all fine and good, but a real fight with real bodies? Is not.

kbronsito: Not only a military one, but those are people that he can get to vote to declare Crimea independent or part of Russia in some rigged referendum.


The funny thing is, he doesn't need any kind of rigged referendum. Crimea is perfectly willing to get independent of Kiev, and wanted it for decades. If I were in the place of someone who is preparing the referendum, I would invite all the international observers and made the elections squeaky clean and glaringly transparent, all the way giving "internal access" to western media - and still got the result I wanted.

But I've watched a bit Aksenov (the guy who is currently elected as the prime minister of Crimea). He is a fraking retard, in political sense. Actually, a huge lot of politicians, native to Crimea or involved in the situation, on all sides, are complete and utter incompetent retards; sometimes I just can't help but to think - what are they doing? Are they trying to sabotage their own side?!
 
2014-03-05 01:12:04 AM  

Fubini: The point is, of course, that at least a few nukes will always get through. How many Manhattan Islands are we willing to loose? How many Chicagos or Los Angeles? Is it a fair trade if they destroy New York and DC, but we get Moscow, St. Petersburg, and Novosibirsk?


Well, those Moscowites have it coming, and Novosibirsk is just a bunch of siberian bears pretending to be human, but barely able to walk on their hinder legs, but could you please leave Petersburg intact? It's dangerously close to actual people, you know. You take out Petersburg, Finland, Latvia and Estonia are going under the mushroom cloud with it.

This is a price I'm (as a Latvian) not willing to pay. Thank you very much.

Plus, Petersburg is a rather nice place, populated with relatively nice, by Russian measures, apathetic people who aren't prone to invading anyone or support any kind of action, military or other. It's no threat!
 
2014-03-05 01:20:54 AM  

Grahor: Fubini: The point is, of course, that at least a few nukes will always get through. How many Manhattan Islands are we willing to loose? How many Chicagos or Los Angeles? Is it a fair trade if they destroy New York and DC, but we get Moscow, St. Petersburg, and Novosibirsk?

Well, those Moscowites have it coming, and Novosibirsk is just a bunch of siberian bears pretending to be human, but barely able to walk on their hinder legs, but could you please leave Petersburg intact? It's dangerously close to actual people, you know. You take out Petersburg, Finland, Latvia and Estonia are going under the mushroom cloud with it.

This is a price I'm (as a Latvian) not willing to pay. Thank you very much.

Plus, Petersburg is a rather nice place, populated with relatively nice, by Russian measures, apathetic people who aren't prone to invading anyone or support any kind of action, military or other. It's no threat!


How about we just not nuke civilian populations at all, since:
1) Civilians aren't a threat.
2) Civilians have farkall to do with decision-making.
3) Dead civilians only enrage the rest of the population, making for more (and angrier) troops.
 
2014-03-05 01:26:48 AM  

Rhino_man: Grahor: Fubini: The point is, of course, that at least a few nukes will always get through. How many Manhattan Islands are we willing to loose? How many Chicagos or Los Angeles? Is it a fair trade if they destroy New York and DC, but we get Moscow, St. Petersburg, and Novosibirsk?

Well, those Moscowites have it coming, and Novosibirsk is just a bunch of siberian bears pretending to be human, but barely able to walk on their hinder legs, but could you please leave Petersburg intact? It's dangerously close to actual people, you know. You take out Petersburg, Finland, Latvia and Estonia are going under the mushroom cloud with it.

This is a price I'm (as a Latvian) not willing to pay. Thank you very much.

Plus, Petersburg is a rather nice place, populated with relatively nice, by Russian measures, apathetic people who aren't prone to invading anyone or support any kind of action, military or other. It's no threat!

How about we just not nuke civilian populations at all, since:
1) Civilians aren't a threat.
2) Civilians have farkall to do with decision-making.
3) Dead civilians only enrage the rest of the population, making for more (and angrier) troops.


Civilian centers are also centers of production, and destroying civilian populations means more resources spent fixing things back home and fewer factory workers and solders. If you're going to nuke someone you might as well exterminate them quickly.
 
2014-03-05 01:28:20 AM  

Rhino_man: Grahor: Fubini: The point is, of course, that at least a few nukes will always get through. How many Manhattan Islands are we willing to loose? How many Chicagos or Los Angeles? Is it a fair trade if they destroy New York and DC, but we get Moscow, St. Petersburg, and Novosibirsk?

Well, those Moscowites have it coming, and Novosibirsk is just a bunch of siberian bears pretending to be human, but barely able to walk on their hinder legs, but could you please leave Petersburg intact? It's dangerously close to actual people, you know. You take out Petersburg, Finland, Latvia and Estonia are going under the mushroom cloud with it.

This is a price I'm (as a Latvian) not willing to pay. Thank you very much.

Plus, Petersburg is a rather nice place, populated with relatively nice, by Russian measures, apathetic people who aren't prone to invading anyone or support any kind of action, military or other. It's no threat!

How about we just not nuke civilian populations at all, since:
1) Civilians aren't a threat.
2) Civilians have farkall to do with decision-making.
3) Dead civilians only enrage the rest of the population, making for more (and angrier) troops.


...and I'd like to add the fact that this little country, that was sadly invaded by Russia, has caused us nothing but trouble over the past couple of decades, so destroying the world over it seems a bit silly.
 
2014-03-05 01:42:09 AM  

rohar: Rhino_man: Grahor: Fubini: The point is, of course, that at least a few nukes will always get through. How many Manhattan Islands are we willing to loose? How many Chicagos or Los Angeles? Is it a fair trade if they destroy New York and DC, but we get Moscow, St. Petersburg, and Novosibirsk?

Well, those Moscowites have it coming, and Novosibirsk is just a bunch of siberian bears pretending to be human, but barely able to walk on their hinder legs, but could you please leave Petersburg intact? It's dangerously close to actual people, you know. You take out Petersburg, Finland, Latvia and Estonia are going under the mushroom cloud with it.

This is a price I'm (as a Latvian) not willing to pay. Thank you very much.

Plus, Petersburg is a rather nice place, populated with relatively nice, by Russian measures, apathetic people who aren't prone to invading anyone or support any kind of action, military or other. It's no threat!

How about we just not nuke civilian populations at all, since:
1) Civilians aren't a threat.
2) Civilians have farkall to do with decision-making.
3) Dead civilians only enrage the rest of the population, making for more (and angrier) troops.

...and I'd like to add the fact that this little country, that was sadly invaded by Russia, has caused us nothing but trouble over the past couple of decades, so destroying the world over it seems a bit silly.


They caused economic trouble, maybe even diplomatic trouble... but they were never a threat to the military stability of the world or even the region.  I don't think they deserved to be invaded.

But yeah, let's not blow up the world.
 
2014-03-05 03:05:16 AM  
www.keeneys.com
You're very tough, Vladimir Vladimirovitch. And handsome. And tall, very tall. Not short at all.
 
2014-03-05 03:07:25 AM  

Vacation Bible School: zamboni: Kiriyama9000: I was 3 when the last Cold War ended and have no recollection of it. Glad to see that I'll get to finally get to experience one :)

Oh, you're going to love it! Countries will do things for absolutely no logical reason whatsoever! It was thrilling!

And this
[upload.wikimedia.org image 220x323]

This
[upload.wikimedia.org image 313x430]

And this
[img.fark.net image 600x399]

Will be in heavy rotation...


/the chair is against the wall...


This was worse.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5AUYCnzmDJY (full movie)
 
2014-03-05 03:11:27 AM  

Daedalus27: Vacation Bible School: zamboni: Kiriyama9000: I was 3 when the last Cold War ended and have no recollection of it. Glad to see that I'll get to finally get to experience one :)

Oh, you're going to love it! Countries will do things for absolutely no logical reason whatsoever! It was thrilling!

And this
[upload.wikimedia.org image 220x323]

This
[upload.wikimedia.org image 313x430]

And this
[img.fark.net image 600x399]

Will be in heavy rotation...


/the chair is against the wall...

This was worse.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5AUYCnzmDJY (full movie)


Movie still scares the crap out of me. Cold war was bad, youngsters. I remember my dad saying how he thought we should just open a bottle of champagne and go up on the roof to watch the bombs go off if it happened. 

Then I did a science fair project where I looked at presumed targeting data and damage radiuses, and figured out that there would be no bombs to see from our house, but a massive fallout cloud within 2-3 days that would easily kill us all.

God that was depressing. I was 12.
 
2014-03-05 06:54:26 AM  
US Secretary of State John Kerry: "The US will stand with the Ukrainian people"
(FTFA)

But the US doesn't stand by the Ukraine people waving Russian flags, because that's un-American.

/amidoingthisright?
 
2014-03-05 12:43:35 PM  

Gyrfalcon: lennavan: Oh great thanks, I was just wondering that.  Hey, what's the status of their nukes?

Same as ours, only slightly less of them.

And our subs generally don't sink in port.

Why are we making WWIII out of a minor incursion into Ukraine?


Neunundneunzig Luftballoon am ihrem Weg zum Horizont...
 
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