tlars699: TheYeti: tlars699: thurstonxhowell: BalugaJoe: I paid for both of my degrees. Why do parents have to pay for anything?They don't have to pay for anything. It is a tremendous dick move to not at least fill out the FAFSA, though.Wrong. You sign up for a student loan? Part of the law says that if you default they can hound your parents, too. It's in the contract you sign to get the loan.They can contact the people that you listed as contacts/references, but if they don't sign off on it (Perkins loans, Stafford) the parents aren't legally required to pay for anything.Then please explain to me why when my parents never co-signed a loan (because they automatically refuse anything to do with "co-sign"), Sallie Mae kept calling them for payment when I was in default, due to unemployment after graduation.They are contractually obligated to pay for their children. Said so to me over the phone, when I asked the representative at the time, as I had set up the default terms.
scottydoesntknow: That's gonna be an awkward Thanksgiving
namatad: Call them adults, toss the case out, laugh at the distraught parents who think they can control who their daughter dates.
Joe Blowme: [fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net image 701x573]
tlars699: Boys: Invest early, watch payoffs after 10 years of doing well.
Fissile: Crewmannumber6: Fissile: Apparently dad kicked out his little snowflake because he didn't approve of her boyfriend. I'm gonna guess the boyfriend was too, oh, I don't know, too black? Jersey cops are so racist, they make the KKK look like the Rainbow coalition by comparison.Nothing like a little unfounded speculation to unnecessarily inflame a thread.How many Jersey cops do you know? Didn't like the boyfriend usually means he's not white, or mooslime, or some such thing. If he was a juiced-up thug, like dad, on the other hand, is OK.
profplump: theflatline: If you are 18 and live at home you should follow the rules."The rules" should be something you collectively agree on, not something that old rich people get to dictate because they're old and rich. We're all assholes, and the fact that old people are assholes in a different way than young people doesn't make them right.
durbnpoisn: Okay, let's annalyze this...Her side:"My parents put unrealistic restrictions on my lifestyle. Meaning, I have to follow a curfew, and drop my loser boyfriend. So, I left the house. To punish me, they now refuse to pay for all of the things that support my life."The parent's side:"We lay down rules to keep her safe, including, following a curfew, and dropping the boyfriend that is a bad influence on her life. She didn't agree with that, so she left to live with him. So, I don't see why we should be paying for her. She's an adult. She made a decision to move out."I'm pretty sure I've got that right.How any court could hold up a case on this, is beyond me. The fact that her boyfriend's father is footing the legal bill, potentially says there is more to her side of the story, in that she got him to believe she HAD to leave that horrible situation.But the fact is, she walked out. She wasn't kicked out. She voluntarily left. Yet she still expects her parents to foot the bill for her life.It would be idiotic for the courts to even entertain this. But, if they are willing to pay for it, the courts will have to, I suppose.
tlars699: In both, if you default, your parents are obligated to assist you in paying those back.
tlars699: That's why you have to count their income in filling out FAFSA, even if they aren't helping you pay for college.
tlars699: That's also the reasoning behind not being able to discharge the loans via bankruptcy.
tlars699: 1. Parents are obliged to assist or pay all school loans of the kid going to school especially if the kid defaults. HINT TO IDIOT-GIRL: GO TO COLLEGE. DEFAULT. THEY HAVE TO PAY. DUH!2. If they set up a college fund in her name, then she gets that money for school, regardless of house rules.3. You are considered a child by FAFSA until the ripe old age of 26- when you are no longer able to be carried on your parents' health insurance.4. You aren't supposed to claim a dependent on your taxes, unless they've lived with you for over 6 months of the year, or you are paying for their schooling.5. She is totes banging the lawyer.
UGOTPZD: I like the parents totally normal rules for an 18 year old of telling her who she can date, what time she has to be in the house, etc.18 Years olds don't need to be told these things
tlars699: 1. Parents are obliged to assist or pay all school loans of the kid going to school especially if the kid defaults. HINT TO IDIOT-GIRL: GO TO COLLEGE. DEFAULT. THEY HAVE TO PAY. DUH!
GORDON: Jim from Saint Paul: So.... at 18 you are not a legal adult now?"a parent has an obligation to support any child who cannot stand on his or her own financially. "Key word: Child.Which she is not, legally, anymore.Unless I'm wrong of course.I think Obamacare made it so that anyone under 25 was a child, and can be on mom/dad's insurance.
Jim from Saint Paul: So.... at 18 you are not a legal adult now?"a parent has an obligation to support any child who cannot stand on his or her own financially. "Key word: Child.Which she is not, legally, anymore.Unless I'm wrong of course.
OregonVet: Diogenes: I was wondering why emancipation even entered the picture. This would appear to explain that.Huh. I arrested a kid in Massachusetts years ago (70 in a 25 - through a stop sign). He claimed to be emancipated when I called for an unmarked car to come pick him up (SOP for minors at the time). I said fine (checked and he was listed as such), let's go then. Later during booking he tried to play the "I'm underage" card. "Sorry, bro. If you want to be an adult you are going to be treated as such." He was a dick on top of all that.
what_now: Both sides will be in court Tuesday. Rachel Canning wants the court not to emancipate her, because under the law, a parent has an obligation to support any child who cannot stand on his or her own financially.Um. Bullshiat. You're 18 years old. You aren't a child.Rachel also said every piece of financial paperwork she fills out asks her that question and shows she clearly doesn't have the means to support herself.If you're filling out financial aid paperwork for college, you are using your parents information. If your parents won't fill out the forms, you are just right farked.
Ennuipoet: Let's get down to the important bits: Can I, as a 45 year old, sue MY parents for not paying for my college? If so, can I also for the interest on my student loans as damages?God bless America!
Diogenes: I was wondering why emancipation even entered the picture. This would appear to explain that.
faultytower: Diogenes: Oh, I suppose it's possible. But my gut tells me this has everything to do with the kid and attorney John Inglesino.Time will potentially tell.My other gut option is she's sleeping with the other dad, either way we'll see this all repeated in a Lifetime movie within a year.
Diogenes: Oh, I suppose it's possible. But my gut tells me this has everything to do with the kid and attorney John Inglesino.Time will potentially tell.
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