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2014-03-04 03:28:51 PM

tlars699: thurstonxhowell: BalugaJoe: I paid for both of  my degrees.  Why do parents have to pay for anything?

They don't have to pay for anything. It is a tremendous dick move to not at least fill out the FAFSA, though.

Wrong. You sign up for a student loan? Part of the law says that if you default they can hound your parents, too. It's in the contract you sign to get the loan.


Um. No. No it is not. You have to list contacts so if you default and they can't find you, they can contact those people and ask for your contact information. They cannot bill you for a loan you did not cosign.
 
2014-03-04 03:30:18 PM

plcow: Let me guess.  The "friends" house that she is staying at is her boyfriends.  She is probably a catch and their son is probably a dumb jock and they will do anything to lock the relationship down.


If only there were some method by which you could acquire information on this story, and not look like such a retard with your incorrect guessing...
 
2014-03-04 03:30:25 PM

noblewolf: Some would rather be twat waffles and be more of a burden on their family even after they are legally an adult.


So you've met my ex-wife?
 
2014-03-04 03:31:04 PM
He's a lawyer and 'funding the case' to the current tune of 12,000USD.

That doesn't mean he spent $12k on her.  It means that he spent a given amount of time, at some arbitrary x dollars per hour helping her submit a couple of fill-in-the-blanks style forms, and spoke with her about it over dinner.  This behavior is by no means restricted to lawyers.  For example, I self funded a $200,000 computer upgrade for my parents.  I spent about 3 hours fixing up their system last Christmas and after all the various requirements such as travel, lack of payment guarantor, needing to use my own tools, etc -  at around $65k/hr. Since I was paying myself, I waived the costs.  I suppose if I had set up a LLC, I could claim a net loss for tax purposes ...

On the other hand, only lawyers feel the need to publicly state costs like that, usually as an attempt to court public opinion.
 
2014-03-04 03:31:45 PM

tlars699: Wrong. It's in the contract with any public loan company like Sallie Mae, or Great Lakes. In both, if you default, your parents are obligated to assist you in paying those back.


Okay, Ill chalk this one up to either nice troll or you are a potato. Choose only one.
 
2014-03-04 03:32:34 PM

noblewolf: Mikey1969: timujin: The teen in question.


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She's cute, but not $12,000 worth of cute.

$120 though... I'd take her to dinner and a movie, if it meant that I got to take her to town afterwards...

Lawyer in question

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Wow, I want to take a 9-Iron to that guy's jaw for some reason.
 
2014-03-04 03:33:26 PM
Self-important twatwaffle says what?
 
2014-03-04 03:33:26 PM

yet_another_wumpus: Even if parents were divorced, if the mother didn't want the kid in college, is there any state in the union that will force payment to go to the kid (or at least to the college against mom's wishes)?  Fark has assured me that there is zero accountability on where that money goes.


Yes, and that state happens to be New Jersey.
 
2014-03-04 03:34:03 PM
In court papers she claims her father said she was 'more' than just a daughter to him and he kissed her on the cheek inappropriately.

With his dick?  What the hell?
 
2014-03-04 03:34:17 PM

Mikey1969: noblewolf: Mikey1969: timujin: The teen in question.


[img.fark.net image 606x344]


She's cute, but not $12,000 worth of cute.

$120 though... I'd take her to dinner and a movie, if it meant that I got to take her to town afterwards...

Lawyer in question

[assets.nydailynews.com image 635x628]

Wow, I want to take a 9-Iron to that guy's jaw for some reason.


There's a bit of a headwind. Better use a 7 iron.
 
2014-03-04 03:34:37 PM

tlars699: ph0rk: tlars699: 1. Parents are obliged to assist or pay all school loans of the kid going to school especially if the kid defaults. HINT TO IDIOT-GIRL: GO TO COLLEGE. DEFAULT. THEY HAVE TO PAY. DUH!


Not if the parents don't agree in the first place, which they clearly won't in this case.

Wrong. It's in the contract with any public loan company like Sallie Mae, or Great Lakes. In both, if you default, your parents are obligated to assist you in paying those back.
That's why you have to count their income in filling out FAFSA, even if they aren't helping you pay for college. That's also the reasoning behind not being able to discharge the loans via bankruptcy.


You cannot sign a contract for a third party
 
2014-03-04 03:34:43 PM
Sean Canning and his wife Amy have stopped paying Rachel's Catholic school tuition and now owe over $5,000

Oh well why didn't you say so?
 
2014-03-04 03:35:13 PM
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2014-03-04 03:35:17 PM

tlars699: ph0rk: tlars699: 1. Parents are obliged to assist or pay all school loans of the kid going to school especially if the kid defaults. HINT TO IDIOT-GIRL: GO TO COLLEGE. DEFAULT. THEY HAVE TO PAY. DUH!


Not if the parents don't agree in the first place, which they clearly won't in this case.

Wrong. It's in the contract with any public loan company like Sallie Mae, or Great Lakes. In both, if you default, your parents are obligated to assist you in paying those back.
That's why you have to count their income in filling out FAFSA, even if they aren't helping you pay for college. That's also the reasoning behind not being able to discharge the loans via bankruptcy.


That seems a tad farked up and open itself to abuse. You toss your ahole kid out at 18 they go off to college and when they finish you get hassled because the kid dosent think he has to pay.
 
2014-03-04 03:36:11 PM

unchellmatt: rnatalie: Looks like she blew a seal.
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No, that's just a little ice cream.


thread winner
 
2014-03-04 03:36:31 PM

OregonVet: tlars699: Wrong. It's in the contract with any public loan company like Sallie Mae, or Great Lakes. In both, if you default, your parents are obligated to assist you in paying those back.

Okay, Ill chalk this one up to either nice troll or you are a potato. Choose only one.


i.chzbgr.com
 
2014-03-04 03:36:32 PM

rnatalie: Looks like she blew a seal.
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Keep her personal life out of it.
 
2014-03-04 03:36:40 PM
No theories on who's more dysfunctional, but it's weird that her school is keeping her on, right?

My HS would have wished me luck on my GED, then reminded my dad that he was still contractually obligated to pay the remaining fees.  At the very least, you usually see places hold back on the diploma if there is still outstanding stuff.
 
2014-03-04 03:37:01 PM

faultytower: Hmm...I'm calling bullshiat early on this one.  I'm willing to put my chip on the idea that both sides are full of shiat and the truth is somewhere in the middle.

$20 the rest of the family are a pact of religious fundies.


This, except I doubt the truth is "in the middle."  The truth is probably standing out in a lonely field somewhere, abandoned and never to be seen again, except dimly and at a distance.
 
2014-03-04 03:37:41 PM
Yea, guess what. Under state law the terms of my child support obligation continue if my kid decides to pursue a secondary education. For those of you that don't get it - it means you have to keep sending a check for as long as the snowflake is going to college, up until they turn 24, or something.

Thankfully, junior has a real job in manufacturing and supplements his income playing gigs at a Death Metal joint on weekends. If you're ever in Lawrence, Kansas go check them out sometime.

https://www.facebook.com/Species913
 
2014-03-04 03:38:00 PM

tlars699: In both, if you default, your parents are obligated to assist you in paying those back.


If they cosigned. Now, in most cases, Sallie Mae isn't going to offer a loan to a student w/o a cosigner.

tlars699: That's why you have to count their income in filling out FAFSA, even if they aren't helping you pay for college.


Nope. That's to determine who gets what funding. if you didn't use parent info for undergrads, you'd give the Pell Grant to the kid who made zero dollars over the kid who made $6000 working at a grocery store. In reality, the kid who never had a job probably has wealthier parents than the kid who works at the grocery.

tlars699: That's also the reasoning behind not being able to discharge the loans via bankruptcy.


No, that's just sheer dickery.
 
2014-03-04 03:39:08 PM

James Rieper: No theories on who's more dysfunctional, but it's weird that her school is keeping her on, right?

My HS would have wished me luck on my GED, then reminded my dad that he was still contractually obligated to pay the remaining fees.  At the very least, you usually see places hold back on the diploma if there is still outstanding stuff.


Not strange at all, Catholic charity is very giving when it comes to white people.
 
2014-03-04 03:39:29 PM

Degenz: Under state law the terms of my child support obligation


That's because you don't have custody of the child. If you were still married to the child's other parent, you would have no mandated child support obligation.
 
2014-03-04 03:39:33 PM

tlars699: Wrong. It's in the contract with any public loan company like Sallie Mae, or Great Lakes. In both, if you default, your parents are obligated to assist you in paying those back.


I like you. Sure, you're wrong, but you're tenacious. Persistent. It's a great trait to have.
 
2014-03-04 03:40:03 PM
Cops raise shiatbag children? I'm shocked.
 
2014-03-04 03:41:23 PM
My guess was she was being such a huge pain the ass at the new place she was staying that the dad wanted her out and figured this was the easiest way.

But after reading the fark comments...


Yeah is farking her.
 
2014-03-04 03:41:43 PM

TheYeti: tlars699: thurstonxhowell: BalugaJoe: I paid for both of  my degrees.  Why do parents have to pay for anything?

They don't have to pay for anything. It is a tremendous dick move to not at least fill out the FAFSA, though.

Wrong. You sign up for a student loan? Part of the law says that if you default they can hound your parents, too. It's in the contract you sign to get the loan.

They can contact the people that you listed as contacts/references, but if they don't sign off on it (Perkins loans, Stafford) the parents aren't legally required to pay for anything.


Then please explain to me why when my parents never co-signed a loan (because they automatically refuse anything to do with "co-sign"), Sallie Mae kept calling them for payment when I was in default, due to unemployment after graduation.

They are contractually obligated to pay for their children. Said so to me over the phone, when I asked the representative at the time, as I had set up the default terms.
 
2014-03-04 03:42:17 PM
Isn't this a rerun from yesterday?
 
2014-03-04 03:43:22 PM

what_now: tlars699: thurstonxhowell: BalugaJoe: I paid for both of  my degrees.  Why do parents have to pay for anything?

They don't have to pay for anything. It is a tremendous dick move to not at least fill out the FAFSA, though.

Wrong. You sign up for a student loan? Part of the law says that if you default they can hound your parents, too. It's in the contract you sign to get the loan.

Um. No. No it is not. You have to list contacts so if you default and they can't find you, they can contact those people and ask for your contact information. They cannot bill you for a loan you did not cosign.


If you're the parents, you are obligated to help pay for your kids' school loans. Read your fine print.
 
2014-03-04 03:43:30 PM
In her defence, my parents had a education fund for me. Was supposed to kick just before university.

Then my father got a job out west and they cashed it in at the last minute for pennies on the dollar for moving expenses. 

And i had no money. Three student loans later and two years later, I got a better job dropping out that people that finished
 
2014-03-04 03:44:23 PM
The lawyer is probably pretty well of financially.

Seems like most lawyers he is hard to differentiate from a lobbyist or legit law firm.    Either way he seems to have friends in high places.

http://www.njbiz.com/article/20120702/NJBIZ01/120629800/Grapevine:-L ea p-year-for-lobbyists-Roche-rush
 
2014-03-04 03:45:27 PM

scottydoesntknow: Funkyourdaughter: No possible way to pay for college you say?  That pole aint gonna work itself, honey.

There's a porn star (Belle Knox) currently attending Duke.


Duke sucks....and so does Belle!
 
2014-03-04 03:45:33 PM

tlars699: 1. Parents are obliged to assist or pay all school loans of the kid going to school especially if the kid defaults. HINT TO IDIOT-GIRL: GO TO COLLEGE. DEFAULT. THEY HAVE TO PAY. DUH!


ONLY if the parents co signed for the loan are they obligated!  If they didnt, like I didnt, then they are on the hook for themselves.
 
2014-03-04 03:46:20 PM

tlars699: TheYeti: tlars699: thurstonxhowell: BalugaJoe: I paid for both of  my degrees.  Why do parents have to pay for anything?

They don't have to pay for anything. It is a tremendous dick move to not at least fill out the FAFSA, though.

Wrong. You sign up for a student loan? Part of the law says that if you default they can hound your parents, too. It's in the contract you sign to get the loan.

They can contact the people that you listed as contacts/references, but if they don't sign off on it (Perkins loans, Stafford) the parents aren't legally required to pay for anything.

Then please explain to me why when my parents never co-signed a loan (because they automatically refuse anything to do with "co-sign"), Sallie Mae kept calling them for payment when I was in default, due to unemployment after graduation.

They are contractually obligated to pay for their children. Said so to me over the phone, when I asked the representative at the time, as I had set up the default terms.


Oh, well hell, if a bill collector said it to you over the phone, it might as well have been the word of god.
 
2014-03-04 03:46:40 PM

tlars699: Then please explain to me why when my parents never co-signed a loan (because they automatically refuse anything to do with "co-sign"), Sallie Mae kept calling them for payment when I was in default, due to unemployment after graduation.

They are contractually obligated to pay for their children. Said so to me over the phone, when I asked the representative at the time, as I had set up the default terms.


Well. It looks like you have a lawsuit.

Seriously. Sallie Mae lied to you. If your parents didn't cosign, the only thing SM can do is call to ask for your contact info, and if your parents refuse to divulge it and tell them not to call again, they are legally not allowed to contact them.

If you have documentation of ANY of this, call a lawyer.  IF you don't have documentation, call the Consumer Finance Protection Bureau. They have an open file on Sallie Mae, and they should be able to help.

Totally, 100% not making this up.

EIP if you have questions.
 
2014-03-04 03:48:30 PM

Dr.Fey: scottydoesntknow: youmightberight: scottydoesntknow: Funkyourdaughter: No possible way to pay for college you say?  That pole aint gonna work itself, honey.

There's a porn star (Belle Knox) currently attending Duke.

Pics or she's just one of those imaginary strippers who are working their way through college.

http://playboysfw.kinja.com/meet-belle-knox-the-duke-porn-star-as-yo u- might-have-1535822551/@sarah-hedgecock

Very NSFW pic in comments.


Whoops! Sorry I actually didn't click on the link because I didn't want porn-star showing up in my history. I thought the playboysfw meant ok.

My bad to anyone! Mods feel free to delete or add NSFW tag.
 
2014-03-04 03:49:44 PM

stonicus: tlars699: TheYeti: tlars699: thurstonxhowell: BalugaJoe: I paid for both of  my degrees.  Why do parents have to pay for anything?

They don't have to pay for anything. It is a tremendous dick move to not at least fill out the FAFSA, though.

Wrong. You sign up for a student loan? Part of the law says that if you default they can hound your parents, too. It's in the contract you sign to get the loan.

They can contact the people that you listed as contacts/references, but if they don't sign off on it (Perkins loans, Stafford) the parents aren't legally required to pay for anything.

Then please explain to me why when my parents never co-signed a loan (because they automatically refuse anything to do with "co-sign"), Sallie Mae kept calling them for payment when I was in default, due to unemployment after graduation.

They are contractually obligated to pay for their children. Said so to me over the phone, when I asked the representative at the time, as I had set up the default terms.

Oh, well hell, if a bill collector said it to you over the phone, it might as well have been the word of god.


LOL!!    Sucker born every minute!  Ill bet the Rep got employee of the month.
 
2014-03-04 03:50:22 PM
Okay, let's annalyze this...

Her side:
"My parents put unrealistic restrictions on my lifestyle.  Meaning, I have to follow a curfew, and drop my loser boyfriend.  So, I left the house.  To punish me, they now refuse to pay for all of the things that support my life."

The parent's side:
"We lay down rules to keep her safe, including, following a curfew, and dropping the boyfriend that is a bad influence on her life.  She didn't agree with that, so she left to live with him.  So, I don't see why we should be paying for her.  She's an adult.  She made a decision to move out."

I'm pretty sure I've got that right.
How any court could hold up a case on this, is beyond me.  The fact that her boyfriend's father is footing the legal bill, potentially says there is more to her side of the story, in that she got him to believe she HAD to leave that horrible situation.
But the fact is, she walked out.  She wasn't kicked out.  She voluntarily left.  Yet she still expects her parents to foot the bill for her life.

It would be idiotic for the courts to even entertain this.  But, if they are willing to pay for it, the courts will have to, I suppose.
 
2014-03-04 03:50:43 PM

what_now: Degenz: Under state law the terms of my child support obligation

That's because you don't have custody of the child. If you were still married to the child's other parent, you would have no mandated child support obligation.


Wow, thanks. You might have guessed from the context of my post that the kid is of majority, but thanks for sharing.
 
2014-03-04 03:53:02 PM

tlars699: TheYeti: tlars699: thurstonxhowell: BalugaJoe: I paid for both of  my degrees.  Why do parents have to pay for anything?

They don't have to pay for anything. It is a tremendous dick move to not at least fill out the FAFSA, though.

Wrong. You sign up for a student loan? Part of the law says that if you default they can hound your parents, too. It's in the contract you sign to get the loan.

They can contact the people that you listed as contacts/references, but if they don't sign off on it (Perkins loans, Stafford) the parents aren't legally required to pay for anything.

Then please explain to me why when my parents never co-signed a loan (because they automatically refuse anything to do with "co-sign"), Sallie Mae kept calling them for payment when I was in default, due to unemployment after graduation.

They are contractually obligated to pay for their children. Said so to me over the phone, when I asked the representative at the time, as I had set up the default terms.


Collection agents will call anyone they think they might get money from, that doesn't mean they are actually responsible for the debt.
 
2014-03-04 03:53:02 PM

tlars699: TheYeti: tlars699: thurstonxhowell: BalugaJoe: I paid for both of  my degrees.  Why do parents have to pay for anything?

They don't have to pay for anything. It is a tremendous dick move to not at least fill out the FAFSA, though.

Wrong. You sign up for a student loan? Part of the law says that if you default they can hound your parents, too. It's in the contract you sign to get the loan.

They can contact the people that you listed as contacts/references, but if they don't sign off on it (Perkins loans, Stafford) the parents aren't legally required to pay for anything.

Then please explain to me why when my parents never co-signed a loan (because they automatically refuse anything to do with "co-sign"), Sallie Mae kept calling them for payment when I was in default, due to unemployment after graduation.

They are contractually obligated to pay for their children. Said so to me over the phone, when I asked the representative at the time, as I had set up the default terms.


Parents are not responsible for repaying their child's federal student loans even if the child is or was underage. Federal student loans are not subject to the defense of infancy, per sections 484A(b)(2) and (3) of the Higher
Education Act of 1965.

 Federal Parent PLUS is a cosigned loan, so if it were that case your parents did cosign and are on the hook.

Sallie Mae is a private loan company, and they were getting calls because.

a. they were listed as alternate contacts for you, and were merely trying to hunt you down, and con your parents into a payment.

b. Most Sallie Mae loans are cosigned.
 
2014-03-04 03:54:11 PM

~Parents are not responsible for repaying their child's federal student loans even if the child is or was underage. Federal student loans are not subject to the defense of infancy, per sections 484A(b)(2) and (3) of the Higher Education Act of 1965.


~The FAFSA is also a prerequisite for the Federal Parent PLUS loan starting with the 2011-12 award year. The Parent PLUS loan is borrowed by the parent of an undergraduate student to help pay for the student's college costs. Only the parent is responsible for repaying a Parent PLUS loan, but there is no obligation to borrow a Parent PLUS loan. (Some parents will enter into a side agreement with their child where the child agrees to make payments on the parent's Parent PLUS loan. But late payments on a Parent PLUS loan will still be reported on the parent's credit history.)


~Private student loans, also known as alternative student loans, often require a cosigner such as a parent. If a parent is willing to cosign a loan <<a BIG if>>, it increases the student's chances of getting the loan and may yield a lower interest rate. Eligibility and interest rates are based on the higher of the two credit scores. But a cosigner is a co-borrower, equally obligated to repay the loan. Late payments and defaults on a private student loan are reported on the credit history of both the student borrower and the cosigner. Often lenders of private student loans will start seeking payments from the cosigner after the student is just a few days late in making a payment. Even if all of the payments are made on time, the cosigned loan will still show up as an obligation on the cosigner's credit history. This can sometimes affect the cosigner's ability to get additional credit, such as a home mortgage, since the cosigned loan will be counted in the cosigner's debt-to-income ratios.

 
2014-03-04 03:55:07 PM

durbnpoisn: Okay, let's annalyze this...

Her side:
"My parents put unrealistic restrictions on my lifestyle.  Meaning, I have to follow a curfew, and drop my loser boyfriend.  So, I left the house.  To punish me, they now refuse to pay for all of the things that support my life."

The parent's side:
"We lay down rules to keep her safe, including, following a curfew, and dropping the boyfriend that is a bad influence on her life.  She didn't agree with that, so she left to live with him.  So, I don't see why we should be paying for her.  She's an adult.  She made a decision to move out."

I'm pretty sure I've got that right.
How any court could hold up a case on this, is beyond me.  The fact that her boyfriend's father is footing the legal bill, potentially says there is more to her side of the story, in that she got him to believe she HAD to leave that horrible situation.
But the fact is, she walked out.  She wasn't kicked out.  She voluntarily left.  Yet she still expects her parents to foot the bill for her life.

It would be idiotic for the courts to even entertain this.  But, if they are willing to pay for it, the courts will have to, I suppose.


No, he's footing the bill cuz she is slobbing on his knob.
 
2014-03-04 03:55:31 PM

what_now: tlars699: Then please explain to me why when my parents never co-signed a loan (because they automatically refuse anything to do with "co-sign"), Sallie Mae kept calling them for payment when I was in default, due to unemployment after graduation.

They are contractually obligated to pay for their children. Said so to me over the phone, when I asked the representative at the time, as I had set up the default terms.

Well. It looks like you have a lawsuit.

Seriously. Sallie Mae lied to you. If your parents didn't cosign, the only thing SM can do is call to ask for your contact info, and if your parents refuse to divulge it and tell them not to call again, they are legally not allowed to contact them.

If you have documentation of ANY of this, call a lawyer.  IF you don't have documentation, call the Consumer Finance Protection Bureau. They have an open file on Sallie Mae, and they should be able to help.

Totally, 100% not making this up.

EIP if you have questions.


I think the bolded may have happened.
This was a couple of years ago, mind you, and as I have the loans on autopay now that I have a job, then they have no reason to call in the first place.


I guess I have to dig through my loan info to see if my parents ever did sign something they weren't supposed to, though.

Thanks, Fark! 

hocho064: stonicus: tlars699: TheYeti: tlars699: thurstonxhowell: BalugaJoe: I paid for both of  my degrees.  Why do parents have to pay for anything?

They don't have to pay for anything. It is a tremendous dick move to not at least fill out the FAFSA, though.

Wrong. You sign up for a student loan? Part of the law says that if you default they can hound your parents, too. It's in the contract you sign to get the loan.

They can contact the people that you listed as contacts/references, but if they don't sign off on it (Perkins loans, Stafford) the parents aren't legally required to pay for anything.

Then please explain to me why when my parents never co-signed a loan (because they automatically refuse anything to do with "co-sign"), Sallie Mae kept calling them for payment when I was in default, due to unemployment after graduation.

They are contractually obligated to pay for their children. Said so to me over the phone, when I asked the representative at the time, as I had set up the default terms.

Oh, well hell, if a bill collector said it to you over the phone, it might as well have been the word of god.

LOL!!    Sucker born every minute!  Ill bet the Rep got employee of the month.


Um, no. Nobody has money for that nonsense of paying them back all at once.
Not saying you're wrong about the sucker part, though.
Luckily for them, my parents are tightwads when it comes to helping anybody else financially.
 
2014-03-04 03:57:37 PM

groppet: tlars699: ph0rk: tlars699: 1. Parents are obliged to assist or pay all school loans of the kid going to school especially if the kid defaults. HINT TO IDIOT-GIRL: GO TO COLLEGE. DEFAULT. THEY HAVE TO PAY. DUH!


Not if the parents don't agree in the first place, which they clearly won't in this case.

Wrong. It's in the contract with any public loan company like Sallie Mae, or Great Lakes. In both, if you default, your parents are obligated to assist you in paying those back.
That's why you have to count their income in filling out FAFSA, even if they aren't helping you pay for college. That's also the reasoning behind not being able to discharge the loans via bankruptcy.

That seems a tad farked up and open itself to abuse. You toss your ahole kid out at 18 they go off to college and when they finish you get hassled because the kid dosent think he has to pay.


Government gets their money back, though, so what do they care?
Also, having/getting your kid claimed as an independent is open for abuse, really.
 
2014-03-04 03:57:50 PM
Sean Canning, a former police chief


Meh, you probably have a lot of bad karma built up. How many teens lives have you ruined arresting them for pot?
 
2014-03-04 03:57:54 PM
Wow.  I got emancipated (at 16) so that my parents and I  could pay for my undergrad (in-state tuition).

This seems kinda ass-backward.

// You can still be legally a dependent at 18 if your parents are still claiming you.  At 18 they have the option of not doing so, though, or rather there's no extra emancipation paperwork beyond not listing you as a dependent on their taxes.
 
2014-03-04 04:00:57 PM
This situation feels kind of like the people that lived in our house before we bought it.  Our neighbors actually found them likeable, but the stories they would tell after the fact were super long on the crazy.

The thing was, they actually looked like normal people.  Then one day the dysfunction just broke out in a way they couldn't hide anymore.

I'm kind of waiting with some popcorn for things to really start breaking loose here.
 
2014-03-04 04:01:25 PM
theflatline: If you are 18 and live at home you should follow the rules.

"The rules" should be something you collectively agree on, not something that old rich people get to dictate because they're old and rich. We're all assholes, and the fact that old people are assholes in a different way than young people doesn't make them right.
 
2014-03-04 04:02:56 PM
 
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