palelizard: vharshyde: MikeyFuccon: HotWingConspiracy: "Women are just like that," Derbyshire said. "One thing we might try would be putting some alpha males up front, instead of mealy-mouthed cringing betas."Oh god, he reads 4chan as well.More likely the "men's rights"/"manosphere" fever swamp. 4chan I presume he leaves to his half-Asian children.Yes, he has children. No, they're not white, and I hope for their sake they didn't inherit that neck.[www.rawstory.com image 615x345]All fooling aside, the editor of Derbyshire's new magazine (Taki Theodoracopulos) has a habit of romanticizing the Greek junta along with Vladimir Putin and other tough guys who make life more difficult for the "rootless cosmopolitans," mostly out of spite that they have the nerve to buy villas next door to his own in any number of fancy resorts. Birds of a feather."Where's your neck!? Where's your farking Neck!?"Why is it the greatest champions of the white race always turn out to be the worst examples of it? YOU! Where the fark is your CHIN?
Harbinger of the Doomed Rat: You do realize that one can recognize and acknowledge problematic behavior without hating the people exhibiting that behavior, right? Besides, have you spent any time around programmers? There's a whole lot of angry white guys in that industry.
Chameleon: Do you not remember 1994? "Angry white male" is a particular demographic--specifically one who is upset that non-white, non-males have a say in society. The guy was not likely actually denigrating the white race, dude.
nmrsnr: factoryconnection: Choice A: dilute the party's hard-line stance against gays, immigrants, the poor, and other sacred cows---Pro: less alienation of independents, less chance of derp-storm candidates like that "shut the whole thing down" guy---Con: they alienate their own base of voters and become a diet version of the Democratic partyChoice B: stick to their guns---Pro: they get to feel good, keep their base, and hey... guns!---Con: they get bred out of relevance, increased chance of more derp-storm candidatesThis is really no choice at all, and is merely the evolution of a party. At some point it becomes clear that the majority of Americans no longer believe in what you are selling (in this case, the nostalgic days of women in the kitchen, gays nonexistent, and being poor meant being lazy). When this happens there will eventually be a point at which it becomes clear that there is no longer any way to win large scale elections, and winning regional elections becomes increasingly rare. When one party looks to become monopolistic, either the weakening party will adopt some of the less offensive to its principles of the opposing party in the hopes of siphoning off voters, or the larger party itself will fracture, since there are always many disparate voices in a big tent party. The pieces then coalescing into the new two party system.
God-is-a-Taco: What other group of people welcomes extremely large and unsustainable amounts of outsiders of various cultures and ethnicities
DROxINxTHExWIND: TheShavingofOccam123: [www.rawstory.com image 546x307]"Look on my works, ye whitey, and despair."Where is that cartoon about white supremecists having weak chins when I need it?
IrishFarmer: Teufelaffe: IrishFarmer: The left-leaning folks here are going to condescend about this, but I don't see how the left's tendency towards thinly veiled disdain for white males people in a place of privilege who not only refuse to acknowledge their privilege, they attempt to play the victim whenever said privilege is mentioned to them is morally superior.FTFYWhite people, in my experience, generally acknowledge their privilege (except a lot of conservatives, but they aren't the brightest bulbs on the tree anyway). But what's so surprising about the ethnic core of a nation privileging itself? That's the reason nations exist in the first place, really. In fact, pretty much every (non-white) nation on the planet does this, except it's only a problem when pale-faces do it because....because....I don't know, you tell me. I never actually heard a reason why white people doing what every other nation/race does is wrong, it's just assumed everyone should have a problem with it apparently.Those who play the victim card implicitly buy into the whole white guilt narrative, that's why they try and trump progressives by saying they're also victims and deserve of (ironically enough) the privileges of victimhood.
IrishFarmer: Harbinger of the Doomed Rat: You do realize that one can recognize and acknowledge problematic behavior without hating the people exhibiting that behavior, right? Besides, have you spent any time around programmers? There's a whole lot of angry white guys in that industry.Yeah, and there's too many angry black criminals in society. Would it upset you if someone said that? Probably, since I had an emotional reaction just writing it. Do me a solid and look past the content though, I said it strictly to illustrate a point.When someone tells me there are too many angry white men in programming, they (or you in hindsight) can try and hide behind plausible deniability, but it's pretty clear what that means: White men are ruining the career, because by virtue of their whiteness they suck (or at least are more likely to suck). Non-whites don't get angry, it's strictly a silly white person thing, so getting more non-whites in the career field surely will not result in angry non-whites.Simply pointing out that there are a lot of angry white men isn't the problem with what he said. There was a difference between the way you put it and the way he put it, namely that you were simply stating a statistically verifiable fact(?), while he was making an argument explaining why white men are inherently awful. It might be easier to see in context of the speech, perhaps.I'm not playing the victim card, I don't think white men are victimized by this mentality. White men (mostly) have it pretty good, and will continue to have it pretty good, that's not what I'm talking about. But unless you apply some convenient and implausible mental gymnastics to what he said, it's anti-white male sentiment. I don't buy privilege as a reason why his anti-white attitude is morally superior to pro-white attitudes, but perhaps you and a lot of other people here do because racism is only racism if you have power and you're racist against those without power. In my estimation, though, it w ...
Weaver95: Well at least he is honest enough to admit to beliefs that many conservatives silently agree with and pretend they don't share.
Animatronik: Weaver95: Well at least he is honest enough to admit to beliefs that many conservatives silently agree with and pretend they don't share.This guy was kicked out for being a fringe racist, but you want to paint all conservatives as being exactly like him.Does that mean I can call you and all of your Progressive friends communists who want to make our country into Soviet Russia and exile and imprison anyone with a different opinion?
rewind2846: There aren't a majority of these types, but they are one thing that other voters aren't - CONSISTENT. That is their strength. If democrats and non-crazy republicans would get out and vote the way the nut jobs do, the tea party wouldn't even exist.
jso2897: Contrarian? Crybaby is more like it. Grow the f**k up, and count your blessings. You were born on third base, and have never faced institutional racism (the ONLY kind that matters ) in your soft, pampered little life, and never will.You are spoiled, ungrateful, and a crybaby - grow up.
Animatronik: This guy was kicked out for being a fringe racist, but you want to paint all conservatives as being exactly like him.
Monkeyfark Ridiculous: There's nothing "surprising" or unique about racism on behalf of any race. People have a problem with it, especially on an institutional level, because it's stupid and divisive and backwards and fundamentally unjust. You are apparently aware of complaints about racism against, say, black people in the US, and unaware of complaints about racism against Uyghurs in China or Armenians in Turkey or Koreans in Japan or Tutsis in Rwanda or Indians in Fiji or Amerindians in Mexico - or whatever - possibly because (1) US news hits closer to home for you and (2) knowing about this other stuff might make it harder for you to feel like people only have a problem with your racism because you're white.
IrishFarmer: Monkeyfark Ridiculous: There's nothing "surprising" or unique about racism on behalf of any race. People have a problem with it, especially on an institutional level, because it's stupid and divisive and backwards and fundamentally unjust. You are apparently aware of complaints about racism against, say, black people in the US, and unaware of complaints about racism against Uyghurs in China or Armenians in Turkey or Koreans in Japan or Tutsis in Rwanda or Indians in Fiji or Amerindians in Mexico - or whatever - possibly because (1) US news hits closer to home for you and (2) knowing about this other stuff might make it harder for you to feel like people only have a problem with your racism because you're white.My real original complaint, and what I leave you guys with is this: That those who are supposed to be against racism against minorities don't have a problem with negative sentiments (what you might call racism, if you're inclined) against the majority. I don't care if you guys want to call out white racism against any other race in America, I have a general dislike for racism of any kind because it's typically irrational and usually it's an ineffectual way of addressing a real world problem, for instance the claim that blacks are more prone to violence because they're black, rather than say endemic poverty, failed public institutions, dissolution of the family unit, discriminatory laws/justice system and so on....even if race was a factor, it's the least significant factor and since you can't change race anyway there's no point in even considering it regardless.But the anti-white male sentiments that the left is known for, even if we leave open the possibility that the perception is unwarranted, is bad PR for the left. Even if I were sympathetic to liberal values, I'd always feel unwelcome in the movement because it seems there are a lot of people in it that don't have a lot of regard for me. Call me a crybaby all you want, but I'm not going to waste m ...
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