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(Atomic Scientists Bulletin)   That time the US dropped a hydrogen bomb on someone's back yard in South Carolina   (thebulletin.org) divider line 54
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2014-03-04 12:18:57 PM
Oh this story again?
 
2014-03-04 12:30:54 PM

ubermensch: Oh this story again?

 
2014-03-04 12:32:25 PM
It must be a really slow news day.
 
2014-03-04 12:43:34 PM
Its still down there in the mud I think

In case anyone wants an h bomb
 
2014-03-04 12:47:14 PM
Maybe if y'all put the effort into providing quality content that you do chasing ads, the revenue problem would fix itself.
 
2014-03-04 12:48:40 PM
Not many people masturbating into Cheese Wheels I see. Must be a slow news day.
 
2014-03-04 01:04:31 PM
I have a hard time getting all worked up about an unarmed nuclear device. There were plenty of ones that actually had their cores installed lost to freak out over one without a core.

When it comes from the same bunch that keeps wringing their hands over that bullshiat Doomsday Clock it's even harder to give a damn. We've been five minutes to midnight or something on that stupid thing for decades... nobody's nuked anybody else, and if it actually happens it's likely to happen before some self important blowhards put out a press release about their meaningless clock.
 
2014-03-04 01:09:29 PM

ubermensch: Oh this story again?


Actually, this is about more than one incident, and includes at least TWO hilarious instances of these bombs getting jettisoned because someone stumbles in the bomb bay, and grabs the manual release for support. Seriously, this wasn't a Looney Tunes cartoon... This is actually a far more detailed story than subby's headline let on.

akula:
When it comes from the same bunch that keeps wringing their hands over that bullshiat Doomsday Clock it's even harder to give a damn. We've been five minutes to midnight or something on that stupid thing for decades... nobody's nuked anybody else, and if it actually happens it's likely to happen before some self important blowhards put out a press release about their meaningless clock.

Hey, without that clock, Iron Maiden would never have been able to write Two Minutes to Midnight, so I think we owe these people at least SOME thanks.
 
2014-03-04 01:19:20 PM
Best part is that they only talk about the ones we do know about. I've heard interesting rumors from some guys about the huge number of secret or unknown nuclear accidents.
 
2014-03-04 01:21:38 PM
Meh, wake me when we drop an H-Bomb on Sevastopol, that will show those freaking Ruskies.
 
2014-03-04 01:32:35 PM
Is it really a nuclear bomb if it didn't have a nuclear core?

It was a potential nuclear bomb.   it was a real bomb that dropped on their house, and did damage, like you would expect a real bomb to do, but it wasn't nuclear, as it contained no radioactive material.
 
2014-03-04 01:32:35 PM

trotsky: Best part is that they only talk about the ones we do know about. I've heard interesting rumors from some guys about the huge number of secret or unknown nuclear accidents.


The guys to ask are Marines.  They're the ones guarding the Navy's nukes.  Ask somebody about the Broken Arrows at the Delta Dock.  If they tell you anything and you don't get a visit from grumpy men in black suits, you'll hear some shiat that'll curdle your piss
 
2014-03-04 01:37:09 PM
upload.wikimedia.org

They even made a movie loosely based on this story.
 
2014-03-04 01:38:27 PM

Smeggy Smurf: Broken Arrows


You don't really want to know about that stuff.
Took me two decades to be able to sleep at night with out being drunk or grinding my teeth.

They cover a lot of shait up, too.
They hate it when a SP goes by the book and follows reporting procedures.
 
2014-03-04 01:48:43 PM

vudukungfu: Smeggy Smurf: Broken Arrows

You don't really want to know about that stuff.
Took me two decades to be able to sleep at night with out being drunk or grinding my teeth.

They cover a lot of shait up, too.
They hate it when a SP goes by the book and follows reporting procedures.


I heard some of it from my old man from his time in the Marines.  He re-enlisted in the USCG afterwards to help atone for what had to be done.
 
2014-03-04 01:51:33 PM

Smeggy Smurf: trotsky: Best part is that they only talk about the ones we do know about. I've heard interesting rumors from some guys about the huge number of secret or unknown nuclear accidents.

The guys to ask are Marines.  They're the ones guarding the Navy's nukes.  Ask somebody about the Broken Arrows at the Delta Dock.  If they tell you anything and you don't get a visit from grumpy men in black suits, you'll hear some shiat that'll curdle your piss


My brother used to do that when he was a Marine up at NAS Brunswick in Maine.

Nuclear depth charges for the P3 Orions.
 
2014-03-04 02:02:04 PM

Doktor_Zhivago: Its still down there in the mud I think

In case anyone wants an h bomb


You are thinking about the one they dropped near Savannah, GA:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1958_Tybee_Island_mid-air_collision

The one in this article is a different incident.
 
2014-03-04 02:04:30 PM

StrikitRich: [upload.wikimedia.org image 305x457]

They even made a movie loosely based on this story.


I think the book and movie are based more on the conflict at the beginning of the book.
 
2014-03-04 02:14:28 PM

StrikitRich: They even made a movie loosely based on this story.


Now that is a generous assessment... :-) Book was awesome, movie was terrible. (MHO, of course)
 
2014-03-04 02:15:39 PM
read the rest of that book - the US had some brass ones in the late 40's and early 50's.  big brass ones.
 
2014-03-04 02:17:13 PM

Smeggy Smurf: trotsky: Best part is that they only talk about the ones we do know about. I've heard interesting rumors from some guys about the huge number of secret or unknown nuclear accidents.

The guys to ask are Marines.  They're the ones guarding the Navy's nukes.  Ask somebody about the Broken Arrows at the Delta Dock.  If they tell you anything and you don't get a visit from grumpy men in black suits, you'll hear some shiat that'll curdle your piss


Delta Dock in South America?
The first few pages of GS results don't look informative.  Can you offer any links or other clues?
 
2014-03-04 02:17:35 PM

Driedsponge: Doktor_Zhivago: Its still down there in the mud I think

In case anyone wants an h bomb

You are thinking about the one they dropped near Savannah, GA:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1958_Tybee_Island_mid-air_collision

The one in this article is a different incident.

Yeah came here to say this. No, no, this was the other bomb dropped near Savannah in early 1958.
 
2014-03-04 02:18:45 PM
ojhsspartanchronicles.com

Atomic Bomb Retriever. Hero
 
2014-03-04 02:20:14 PM
Thanks to the farker who turned me on to the Command and Control book mentioned in tfa. It's a very gripping book and I'd recommend it to anyone interested in this stuff.
 
2014-03-04 02:29:39 PM

lifeboat: Thanks to the farker who turned me on to the Command and Control book mentioned in tfa. It's a very gripping book and I'd recommend it to anyone interested in this stuff.


having worked inside a world not unlike SAC, i am amazed we are not all dead.  the incident that showed how insane it all was/is is the fuel leak in 79.  the RFHCO suits, they do nothing!
 
2014-03-04 02:37:11 PM
Destructor: Now that is a generous assessment... :-) Book was awesome, movie was terrible. (MHO, of course)

Seconded.  Didn't even pay attention to the movie; the subsequent books were good as well, "Debt of Honor" and "Executive Orders"
 
2014-03-04 02:40:46 PM

Odd Bird: Smeggy Smurf: trotsky: Best part is that they only talk about the ones we do know about. I've heard interesting rumors from some guys about the huge number of secret or unknown nuclear accidents.

The guys to ask are Marines.  They're the ones guarding the Navy's nukes.  Ask somebody about the Broken Arrows at the Delta Dock.  If they tell you anything and you don't get a visit from grumpy men in black suits, you'll hear some shiat that'll curdle your piss

Delta Dock in South America?
The first few pages of GS results don't look informative.  Can you offer any links or other clues?


Bangor Sub Base in Washington.  It's across the Puget Sound from Seattle
 
2014-03-04 02:41:54 PM
....yes? What about that time? Come back and finish your sentence, subby.
 
2014-03-04 02:44:01 PM

Rwa2play: Destructor: Now that is a generous assessment... :-) Book was awesome, movie was terrible. (MHO, of course)

Seconded.  Didn't even pay attention to the movie; the subsequent books were good as well, "Debt of Honor" and "Executive Orders"


Third.  "Debt of Honor", for me, wasn't as good as the earlier ones.  Not sure if I've read "Executive Orders", most of them began blending together.
If you haven't read "Without Remorse", pick it up.
 
2014-03-04 02:46:37 PM
Never heard about the one in ABQ before. Not surprised; there's probably all kinds of crap buried one way or another in the wastelands around Kirtland.
 
2014-03-04 02:50:28 PM

Odd Bird: Rwa2play: Destructor: Now that is a generous assessment... :-) Book was awesome, movie was terrible. (MHO, of course)

Seconded.  Didn't even pay attention to the movie; the subsequent books were good as well, "Debt of Honor" and "Executive Orders"

Third.  "Debt of Honor", for me, wasn't as good as the earlier ones.  Not sure if I've read "Executive Orders", most of them began blending together.
If you haven't read "Without Remorse", pick it up.


Clancy tanked for me with "Rainbow Six".

Prior to that, his books were worth getting in hardcover.  Some were better than others, but all were decent enough (and "Without Remorse" is excellent).  After that, I just waited until they were bargain-basement paperbacks, if I bothered at all.
 
2014-03-04 03:35:44 PM

dittybopper: Odd Bird: Rwa2play: Destructor: Now that is a generous assessment... :-) Book was awesome, movie was terrible. (MHO, of course)

Seconded.  Didn't even pay attention to the movie; the subsequent books were good as well, "Debt of Honor" and "Executive Orders"

Third.  "Debt of Honor", for me, wasn't as good as the earlier ones.  Not sure if I've read "Executive Orders", most of them began blending together.
If you haven't read "Without Remorse", pick it up.

Clancy tanked for me with "Rainbow Six".

Prior to that, his books were worth getting in hardcover.  Some were better than others, but all were decent enough (and "Without Remorse" is excellent).  After that, I just waited until they were bargain-basement paperbacks, if I bothered at all.


I stuck it out with his Ryan series. But I still agree... with Rainbow Six he started going downhill. They were still entertaining but just didn't have the greatness of his earlier works.

Mikey1969: Hey, without that clock, Iron Maiden would never have been able to write Two Minutes to Midnight, so I think we owe these people at least SOME thanks.


Got me there. That's an awesome song.
 
2014-03-04 03:45:25 PM
ubermensch
2014-03-04 12:18:57 PM


Oh this story again?

^This...... Isn't this the 5th time we've had this thread in the past 6 m?
 
2014-03-04 03:45:41 PM

Odd Bird: Rwa2play: Destructor: Now that is a generous assessment... :-) Book was awesome, movie was terrible. (MHO, of course)

Seconded.  Didn't even pay attention to the movie; the subsequent books were good as well, "Debt of Honor" and "Executive Orders"

Third.  "Debt of Honor", for me, wasn't as good as the earlier ones.  Not sure if I've read "Executive Orders", most of them began blending together.


Well..."TSOAF" spun to "Debt of Honor" and "Executive Orders" picks up where "Debt" left off.

If you haven't read "Without Remorse", pick it up.

I understand it's a "Year One" story about Clark, never have gotten the chance to pick it up.
 
2014-03-04 03:50:07 PM
Three years later, they dropped two more on Faro, North Carolina.
 
2014-03-04 03:54:32 PM

Rwa2play: I understand it's a "Year One" story about Clark, never have gotten the chance to pick it up.


Dude, you're missing out. Yes, it explains Clark's back story. It's a great book. IMO, it would itself make for an awesome movie even if you stripped out all the stuff that links it to the rest of the Clancy stuff. One of the original Navy SEALs, dealing with his demons, has his girlfriend murdered and now he has nothing left to lose...

If that isn't watchable I don't know what would be.
 
2014-03-04 04:03:41 PM

akula: Rwa2play: I understand it's a "Year One" story about Clark, never have gotten the chance to pick it up.

Dude, you're missing out. Yes, it explains Clark's back story. It's a great book. IMO, it would itself make for an awesome movie even if you stripped out all the stuff that links it to the rest of the Clancy stuff. One of the original Navy SEALs, dealing with his demons, has his girlfriend murdered and now he has nothing left to lose...

If that isn't watchable I don't know what would be.


Yeah, it's about a white boy.  'Ceptin' he was green.
 
2014-03-04 04:06:36 PM

akula: I stuck it out with his Ryan series. But I still agree... with Rainbow Six he started going downhill. They were still entertaining but just didn't have the greatness of his earlier works.


The thing that got me was the whole "DKL Lifeguard" thing.  Don't make dowsing rods your amazing new technology.
 
2014-03-04 04:17:13 PM
I'm from SC, born and raised not far from Mars Bluff. My grandfather knew the guy whose land it fell on. I kind of regret never seeing the spot.

I'm sure it's not interesting in and of itself, one slightly drier piece of swamp looks like another, but how many times did we accidently drop nukes on ourselves? (It was about three right? Three times?)
 
2014-03-04 04:33:07 PM

Zarquon's Flat Tire: I'm from SC, born and raised not far from Mars Bluff. My grandfather knew the guy whose land it fell on. I kind of regret never seeing the spot.

I'm sure it's not interesting in and of itself, one slightly drier piece of swamp looks like another, but how many times did we accidently drop nukes on ourselves? (It was about three right? Three times?)

 Not quite.
 
2014-03-04 04:43:07 PM

Driedsponge: Zarquon's Flat Tire: I'm from SC, born and raised not far from Mars Bluff. My grandfather knew the guy whose land it fell on. I kind of regret never seeing the spot.

I'm sure it's not interesting in and of itself, one slightly drier piece of swamp looks like another, but how many times did we accidently drop nukes on ourselves? (It was about three right? Three times?)
 Not quite.


Well shiat.
 
2014-03-04 04:57:23 PM
OK folks you hit the target but it didn't go off - South Carolina is still there. Do again and do it right
 
2014-03-04 05:36:01 PM

asciibaron: i am amazed we are not all dead.


Yup, that's pretty much the exact thought I had all throughout that book.  Fascinating but yet very scary at the same time.
 
2014-03-04 05:36:52 PM

dittybopper: akula: I stuck it out with his Ryan series. But I still agree... with Rainbow Six he started going downhill. They were still entertaining but just didn't have the greatness of his earlier works.

The thing that got me was the whole "DKL Lifeguard" thing.  Don't make dowsing rods your amazing new technology.


This. To say that eroded my ability to get caught up in the book would be a mild understatement.

You know, like "the sun is hot"
 
2014-03-04 07:16:56 PM
Well, that explains Nikki Haley.
 
2014-03-04 08:53:36 PM

Zarquon's Flat Tire: I'm from SC, born and raised not far from Mars Bluff. My grandfather knew the guy whose land it fell on. I kind of regret never seeing the spot.

I'm sure it's not interesting in and of itself, one slightly drier piece of swamp looks like another, but how many times did we accidently drop nukes on ourselves? (It was about three right? Three times?)


Zarquan, please allow me.  I took these on an....um....unauthorized expedition to the Mars Bluff impact site a couple years ago.  It's private property now, and the area has become a bit sketchy - but it was a (you'll pardon the pun) blast.


img.fark.net
This is the SE corner of the Gregg house.

img.fark.net

The actual impact crater.

And I just couldn't resist doing this one for a friend:

img.fark.net
 
2014-03-04 09:16:01 PM

Doktor_Zhivago: Its still down there in the mud I think

In case anyone wants an h bomb


The fact that it's electronic components have decayed to the point that it would be impossible to trigger the detonation sequence, and that's good.

The fact that once the casing has corroded away, there's going to be a huge amount of plutonium contamination for hundreds if not thousands of miles in the ocean currents, and that's bad.

simpsonswiki.com
 
2014-03-04 09:39:15 PM
"And the notion that a madman could deliberately start a world war became plausible, not long after the forgery appeared, when an American mechanic stole a B-45 bomber from Alconbury Air Force Base in England and took it for a joyride. The mechanic, who'd never received flight training, crashed the jet not long after takeoff and died. "

I may be wrong, but I think I gotta call shenanigans on this claim. The B-45 could not be started then flown off by a lone person. It's engines required external equipment to "spin up" the engines (or in some circumstances, a cartridge much like a blank shotgun shell was mounted inside the front and fired manually to released the gas compression to begin turbine spinup). This guy could not have started up the engines then managed to climb into the cockpit. It's a 2-man operation (pilot and ground crewman).
 
2014-03-04 09:55:05 PM

TV's Vinnie: "And the notion that a madman could deliberately start a world war became plausible, not long after the forgery appeared, when an American mechanic stole a B-45 bomber from Alconbury Air Force Base in England and took it for a joyride. The mechanic, who'd never received flight training, crashed the jet not long after takeoff and died. "

I may be wrong, but I think I gotta call shenanigans on this claim. The B-45 could not be started then flown off by a lone person. It's engines required external equipment to "spin up" the engines (or in some circumstances, a cartridge much like a blank shotgun shell was mounted inside the front and fired manually to released the gas compression to begin turbine spinup). This guy could not have started up the engines then managed to climb into the cockpit. It's a 2-man operation (pilot and ground crewman).


Wellll.....this isn't absolute proof, but:


i145.photobucket.com
 
2014-03-04 10:33:11 PM

ubermensch: Oh this story again?


It was new to me.
 
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