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(Vice)   Area man takes issue with American Exceptionalism, and American car ads selling Amurica instead of cars   (vice.com) divider line 38
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2014-03-04 01:51:48 PM  
5 votes:
OK, so I watched the electric caddy commercial.  It's actually not a bad effort, considering they're trying to sell an electric car to a group of people who have been told FOR YEARS by their Republican masters that electric cars suck...
2014-03-04 03:25:07 PM  
4 votes:
I know I'm late to the party, but:

CAR AD DUDE:  "Europe and other countries enjoy their free time, leisure, and spending time with their family.  Us?  We work our fingers to the bone for no real remuneration but a sense of how tremendous we are.  Look at me.  I'm going in to work because I am a soulless drone leveraged to my gills and can't stand my family.  I'll die of a heart attack soon, all because 'I make my own luck!'

"Just kidding!  I'm a paid actor.  Suckers!  You bought that bullcrap!"
2014-03-04 01:47:51 PM  
4 votes:
FTFA:

Me? I'm a libertarian, so I don't give a shiat about the politics expressed in a car ad.

*scrolls down a few seeing a sh*t load of words*

Yeah, you don't care. Sure thing, buddy.

*closes window*
2014-03-04 02:31:29 PM  
3 votes:
That commercial was embarrassing enough that I knew which one we were talking about without having to look. Some of us in the US don't want to be associated with that kind of arrogant douchebaggery.

The bit where they tried to tell us that barely getting any vacation in this country is somehow an awesome thing was an especially nice touch. If you think the 1% in this country don't take all sorts of long, expensive vacations, you're dumb enough to buy one of these cars.
2014-03-04 02:09:20 PM  
3 votes:

The Muthaship: Young people don't want to hear about American exceptionalism because they're afraid it means they're going to have to work at some point to maintain it.


No, they don't want to hear about it because they know no matter how hard they work, they're not going to be commensurately rewarded, compared to how baby boomers were. When state university tuition is $20k per year and up (in states where it was virtually free until the '90s), life actually IS harder and less rewarding for middle class kids.

/I'm Generation W, the thin slice between boomers and Xers. I worked for peanuts after college, but I owed only $3k.
2014-03-04 01:52:52 PM  
3 votes:
I would love to see someone do a remake of the Cadillac commercial set in Europe. The owner could go on about how wonderful the car and his life is, then finish with the line, "...and I get four weeks vacation."
2014-03-04 06:11:47 PM  
2 votes:

akula: doubled99: Patriotic pride denotes ignorance-unless it's another country than this one.

Makes you wonder if the asshole who wrote TFA also freaks out when Volkswagen touts their "German engineering" or when Fiat talks about "Italian style."


Both of those have to do with the actual car. "German engineering" implies that it is a safe and well-built vehicle, while "Italian style" implies that the car is artistic and luxurious. All this commercial sells is US arrogance; it's message is "yeah you're an asshole who thinks nobody with less money than you works hard and that furners are spineless whiny cretins! This is a car for assholes like that!! Buy it you farking asshole piece of shiat goddamn it BUY THE CAAAR!".

Not only is it not selling the car, it's not selling the car buy selling smug, privileged condescension with the face of an actor best known for playing a murderous, torturing-fetishist and child molester. So basically, it hit all the marks it needed to hit to sell this to their target demo; petty-rich Conservatives who like to think they're richer than they are, and that they matter.
2014-03-04 02:10:10 PM  
2 votes:
I expected The Onion from subby's headline.

Oh, and midway through the writer's "thousand words so I get paid today" article I spotted a key joke. How do you spot a Libertarian? Don't worry, they'll tell you.
2014-03-04 01:50:18 PM  
2 votes:
My god, the amount of butthurt is astonishing.
2014-03-04 01:49:16 PM  
2 votes:
It's the rich, smug asshole market. It has been around forever.  Nothing says 'I'm better than you' better than a fancy overpriced car.
2014-03-04 01:29:42 PM  
2 votes:
Anyone that would pay $75K (base price) for a tarted up Volt really isn't really the savviest consumer to begin with.
2014-03-04 01:15:34 PM  
2 votes:

Prey4reign: When you really don't have anything to sell about the product that sets you apart, you sell Amurica or manliness or sexual allure (which usually doesn't have anything to do with the product).


or just 'cause

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And I love a company that had to have a bail out talk to me about being a bad arse.
2014-03-04 12:17:51 PM  
2 votes:
When you really don't have anything to sell about the product that sets you apart, you sell Amurica or manliness or sexual allure (which usually doesn't have anything to do with the product).
2014-03-04 06:12:54 PM  
1 votes:

jacknifetrucker: Sybarite: Anyone that would pay $75K (base price) for a tarted up Volt really isn't really the savviest consumer to begin with.

Where the hell do you car shop, 42k in TX for a loaded volt. Just bought my wife a new car for xmas . Didn't get a volt though.


OK, either I'm missing something or you're having a reading comprehension fail today. "$75K (base price) for a tarted up Volt" is in reference to the CADDY IN THE COMMERCIAL being a tarted-up Volt that costs $75k, not to the Volt itself being $75k.
2014-03-04 05:14:13 PM  
1 votes:

Lucky LaRue: There will always be people who aren't driven to succeed and who are content to wallow in mediocrity and complain loudly and vociferously about successful Americans and America's success-driven culture.


As will there always be people so facile in their drive for success they think they are above the populace, and deserve exponentially more for mostly having a big ego and a position of power. They will fallaciously believe their drive for more is worthwhile and will bring happiness only to find themselves always wanting more while driving a society off a cliff in their pursuits.
2014-03-04 05:06:27 PM  
1 votes:
I'd like to see a commercial featuring the guy who's like "I make a modest yet comfortable living, and I traded a raise for more vacation time. That's why I bought this other car. Life's too short to be conned by your company."
2014-03-04 04:40:53 PM  
1 votes:

Because nothing says "American Quality" like a gigantic cheap plastic grill with a thin coat of silver paint that will be pock-marked with black divots within a matter of months.

i.imgur.com

2014-03-04 03:59:10 PM  
1 votes:
Commercials and advertisements of almost every sort are a poison that should be expunged from society as soon as possible.
2014-03-04 03:56:36 PM  
1 votes:

akula: And again, non sequitur selling points are STANDARD in advertising. Hell, it's the most common selling point- you don't buy X because you need something that does what X does. They sell you X by telling you that having an X makes you more than just yourself; you're a member of a community, smarter, more with it than the dumbasses who bought Y instead.


That was one of the largest plot points in Mad Men: you're not selling a product, but rather, you're selling emotion.  They do it because an emotional choice is stronger than a logical one.

Problem is, for people not swayed by emotional ads, the ads come off as simplistic, juvenile and condescending.  Which is how we ended up with several pages of ranting in the linked article.


/if you don't like the ads, invest in a DVR and skip past them
//then subscribe to product review magazine or website when you're ready to buy
2014-03-04 03:28:31 PM  
1 votes:

Scorpitron is reduced to a thin red paste: I am a soulless drone leveraged to my gills and can't stand my family


We had that commercial
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2014-03-04 03:27:46 PM  
1 votes:

the_foo: That commercial was embarrassing enough that I knew which one we were talking about without having to look. Some of us in the US don't want to be associated with that kind of arrogant douchebaggery.

The bit where they tried to tell us that barely getting any vacation in this country is somehow an awesome thing was an especially nice touch. If you think the 1% in this country don't take all sorts of long, expensive vacations, you're dumb enough to buy one of these cars.


I don't think it's simple arrogant douchebaggery.  What's striking is how stupid it is, how stupid the guy is.  What a stupid ideology -- work! work! work!

Where's the remit for increased productivity?  We certainly aren't seeing it, as workers.  So fark that work! work! work! bullshiat.  Cram your conspicuous consumption up your collective arses.
2014-03-04 03:02:58 PM  
1 votes:

The Muthaship: Young people don't want to hear about American exceptionalism because they're afraid it means they're going to have to work at some point to maintain it.


Or they've lived online long enough to have friends in other countries, which are also exceptional and don't need the comforting blanket that they live in some special chosen country...
2014-03-04 02:47:28 PM  
1 votes:

akula: Makes you wonder if the asshole who wrote TFA also freaks out when Volkswagen touts their "German engineering" or when Fiat talks about "Italian style."


Except German engineering and Italian style are actual features of the product they are hawking.
2014-03-04 02:42:31 PM  
1 votes:
The only car commercials I'm offended by are the ones that Lexus puts out every Christmastime. Like do these asswipes actually think that there really is that large of a demographic of rich fathers buying crappy cars as a gift for their daughters and/or wives?

2minutefinance.com

See? This guy shows his love by giving his wife a brand-new car! What did you get your wife last Christmas? A Keurig coffee maker? HUR HUR HUR! How cute.
2014-03-04 02:37:36 PM  
1 votes:
Oikophobia/Oikophobes:

"It's from Roger Scruton, a British political philosopher:

This repudiation is the result of a peculiar frame of mind that has arisen throughout the Western world since the second world war, and which is particularly prevalent among the intellectual and political élites. No adequate word exists for this attitude, though its symptoms are instantly recognised: namely, the disposition, in any conflict, to side with 'them' against 'us', and the felt need to denigrate the customs, culture and institutions that are identifiably 'ours'. Being the opposite of xenophobia I propose to call this state of mind oikophobia, by which I mean (stretching the Greek a little) the repudiation of inheritance and home. Oikophobia is a stage through which the adolescent mind normally passes. But it is a stage in which some people-intellectuals especially-tend to become arrested. As George Orwell pointed out, intellectuals on the Left are especially prone to it, and this has often made them willing agents of foreign powers."


More: http://www.civitas.org.uk/pdf/cs49-8.pdf
2014-03-04 02:22:59 PM  
1 votes:
What would you have them do with the 40 billion of exceptionalism we gave them, build exceptional cars?
2014-03-04 02:21:45 PM  
1 votes:
Ralph sport sports of Ralph sport sports motors will sell you a car with fully paintable surface and four count them four fully inflatable tires.
2014-03-04 02:18:55 PM  
1 votes:
sendtodave:

Why does he sound so whiny in his music?

Also, is he a sell out?  I mean, flag waving car commercial... Isn't he supposed to be some sort of anti-establishment hippie type or something?

Either way, he's old.


Don't ask me, I like his voice and think he still kicks ass. I don't think he is a sell out. And he never wanted any of those labels people put on him to be put on him.

yes, he was so much older than, he is younger than that now.
2014-03-04 02:13:14 PM  
1 votes:

The Muthaship: Young people don't want to hear about American exceptionalism because they're afraid it means they're going to have to work at some point to maintain it.


American exceptionalism has nothing to do with money, btw. It doesn't refer to getting less vacation than Europeans. It refers to our disinterested, enlightened foreign policy in matters like Wilson's 14 Points, and the Marshall Plan.

My take on it is that we are most American we we act exceptionally. American exceptionalism isn't  a birthright; it's something we have done in the past, and need to live up to.
2014-03-04 01:56:10 PM  
1 votes:

The Goddamn Batman: My god, the amount of butthurt is astonishing.


Yeah, that's pretty bad. It's like he has no clue what advertising is supposed to do. Good advertising sells a product. Great advertising sells a lifestyle. There's a reason you don't see appliances sold saying "They'll cook your food well." Instead you see "These are stylish and advanced," with the implication that those who buy them are similarly stylish and advanced. The same reason beer commercials don't say "buy our cheap swill and you'll get wasted," they give images of people getting together and having a good time.
2014-03-04 01:53:00 PM  
1 votes:

abhorrent1: Is Area man a super hero?


Area Man, Area Man
Has more dimensions than Particle Man
2014-03-04 01:52:59 PM  
1 votes:

busy chillin': FTFA:

Me? I'm a libertarian, so I don't give a shiat about the politics expressed in a car ad.

*scrolls down a few seeing a sh*t load of words*

Yeah, you don't care. Sure thing, buddy.

*closes window*


... About the politics.

He cares about the shiatty car ads, obviously.  Because that's what TFA is about.
2014-03-04 01:52:52 PM  
1 votes:
He's right. F*ck American car makers and their shiatty hyper-Americana advertising.
2014-03-04 01:52:08 PM  
1 votes:
I would very much like to purchase things made in America. Last time I checked we don't sell children to employers, we don't burn hundreds of people to death because of locked doors, we don't crush hundreds of employees in buildings that are structurally unsound.

So tell me more about your American-made products. I have money to burn.
2014-03-04 01:51:42 PM  
1 votes:
Don't care. I love that Cadillac commercial.
2014-03-04 01:51:17 PM  
1 votes:

busy chillin': FTFA:

Me? I'm a libertarian, so I don't give a shiat about the politics expressed in a car ad.

*scrolls down a few seeing a sh*t load of words*

Yeah, you don't care. Sure thing, buddy.

*closes window*


This.  Dude sure did write a lot of words about something he purports to not care about.  He also sounds poor.
2014-03-04 01:48:10 PM  
1 votes:
From the ad with the creepy psycho dude from Justified: "We went to the moon and you know what we got? Bored. So we left. We left a car up there with the keys in it because we're the only ones going back up there."

static.guim.co.uk
LOLWUT?
2014-03-04 01:15:58 PM  
1 votes:
There will always be people who aren't driven to succeed and who are content to wallow in mediocrity and complain loudly and vociferously about successful Americans and America's success-driven culture.
 
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