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2014-03-04 03:19:54 PM

TV's Vinnie: The only car commercials I'm offended by are the ones that Lexus puts out every Christmastime. Like do these asswipes actually think that there really is that large of a demographic of rich fathers buying crappy cars as a gift for their daughters and/or wives?

[2minutefinance.com image 637x349]

See? This guy shows his love by giving his wife a brand-new car! What did you get your wife last Christmas? A Keurig coffee maker? HUR HUR HUR! How cute.


Actually yes, yes there are. The same guy owns both the Land Rover and the Lexus dealership in Tulsa. While I owned a Land Rover I got friendly with everyone over there. Great people with a great product. One day I was dropping off my Land Rover for an oil change and Gary the head of service looked whipped. I asked him what was wrong and he told me he was tired after helping the Lexus dealership unload their truck. I said "don't you just drive the cars off?" His retort "No the effing giant bows came in today". That's right! So many people buy those things and want to recreate those commercials that the Lexus dealership orders the bows in bulk!!

And I agree with your assessment, I hate Lexus.
 
2014-03-04 03:22:59 PM

Lucky LaRue: There will always be people who aren't driven to succeed and who are content to wallow in mediocrity and complain loudly and vociferously about successful Americans and America's success-driven culture.


I like you
 
2014-03-04 03:24:17 PM

akula: Of course non-US automakers aren't harping on the pride of one's heritage there; that's not going to play well in foreign nations. Doesn't matter if the Mitsubishi Lancer is made in the US out of mostly American parts, Mitsubishi isn't a US nameplate and trying to beat the drum of one's heritage is going to have people linking it to the Mitsubishi A6M over Pearl Harbor. Not a good way to sell vehicles.


When you're selling a Lamborghini you don't need anything else. Just run videos of the Stig running laps in it, over and over and over again.
 
2014-03-04 03:25:07 PM
I know I'm late to the party, but:

CAR AD DUDE:  "Europe and other countries enjoy their free time, leisure, and spending time with their family.  Us?  We work our fingers to the bone for no real remuneration but a sense of how tremendous we are.  Look at me.  I'm going in to work because I am a soulless drone leveraged to my gills and can't stand my family.  I'll die of a heart attack soon, all because 'I make my own luck!'

"Just kidding!  I'm a paid actor.  Suckers!  You bought that bullcrap!"
 
2014-03-04 03:26:34 PM
My main counter-argument to the annoying flag-waving shiat is that the company that produces most of its cars here, using US-sourced parts and American labor in the greatest proportions... is  Toyota.

Especially trucks.  The only trucks built entirely in the US down to the bolt are the Tundra and the Tacoma (both Toyota).  And if an ad says anything about Texas (a lot of them do, not farkin' sure why), the only truck plant that does final assembly in Texas is... a Tundra plant, for Toyota again.

So the goddamned  Japanese company is what you want to buy if you're trying to buy american and support US workers.
 
2014-03-04 03:27:46 PM

the_foo: That commercial was embarrassing enough that I knew which one we were talking about without having to look. Some of us in the US don't want to be associated with that kind of arrogant douchebaggery.

The bit where they tried to tell us that barely getting any vacation in this country is somehow an awesome thing was an especially nice touch. If you think the 1% in this country don't take all sorts of long, expensive vacations, you're dumb enough to buy one of these cars.


I don't think it's simple arrogant douchebaggery.  What's striking is how stupid it is, how stupid the guy is.  What a stupid ideology -- work! work! work!

Where's the remit for increased productivity?  We certainly aren't seeing it, as workers.  So fark that work! work! work! bullshiat.  Cram your conspicuous consumption up your collective arses.
 
2014-03-04 03:28:31 PM

Scorpitron is reduced to a thin red paste: I am a soulless drone leveraged to my gills and can't stand my family


We had that commercial
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2014-03-04 03:29:58 PM
Mark " Copyranter" Duffy?

Anyone have any info on this guy? I can't seem to find out what community college he attended.
 
2014-03-04 03:31:58 PM
 
2014-03-04 03:32:45 PM

FarkinNortherner: doubled99: Just about every European I've ever met would agree that they are better


Exactly. When they think it, it's because they're smarter and they know it. When we think it, it's because we are ignorant rubes.

I do wonder what kind of massive douchebag you have to be to even get into that conversation with someone from another country. Although that may just be my sense of superiority coming out.


It depends if they open with "fark you, American asshole" or not.

To be fair, the Europeans I've met were all at expat bars.
 
2014-03-04 03:37:11 PM

jacknifetrucker: Sybarite: Anyone that would pay $75K (base price) for a tarted up Volt really isn't really the savviest consumer to begin with.

Where the hell do you car shop, 42k in TX for a loaded volt. Just bought my wife a new car for xmas . Didn't get a volt though.


If you shopped in a Caddy dealership you would find a Volt with a $75k (before options) price tag.  It would be labeled "XLR".  GM has only had two years of actual Tesla model S production to understand that a $75k volt isn't an option.  Give them a few more years (they've sold 99 so far, I'm sure plenty of dealers are just waiting to have one sit on their lot).

I wouldn't claim (as others have) that this is as bad as a Cimarron.  There is nothing inherently bad about the Volt (unlike the Cavalier of the day), but much like how badly the rest of the Cadillac line was outclassed by Mercedes Benz, the current XLR is outclassed by the the Tesla.  Badge engineering only works when you can legitimately claim that your tarted up chevy is as good as anything else at that price (which was pretty much true 1950-1975).
 
2014-03-04 03:38:01 PM

illogic: [i.imgur.com image 600x600]


His dong is pretty exceptional
 
2014-03-04 03:43:53 PM
THat commercial wasn't that bad. There was some really cool camera work in it, McDonough was pretty cool throughout(Don't know why it matters to TFA of TFA that he's a "devout Catholic", BTW), and it was kind of funny. As some have pointed out, this is no different than Volkswagen's 'German Engineering' commercials, and he sure as hell didn't "shat on the world". Author needs some industrial grade:

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And I thought the bit about leaving a car on the moon with the keys on it was awesome. BTW, nobody else HAS gone back. Robots aren't people, the Chinese, the Russians, they still haven't sent a manned expedition.
 
2014-03-04 03:45:42 PM

doubled99: Patriotic pride denotes ignorance-unless it's another country than this one.


"Patriotism is the belief your country is superior to all other countries because you were born in it." --GB Shaw
 
2014-03-04 03:46:47 PM
It reads much better if you hear it in this kids voice:

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2014-03-04 03:56:36 PM

akula: And again, non sequitur selling points are STANDARD in advertising. Hell, it's the most common selling point- you don't buy X because you need something that does what X does. They sell you X by telling you that having an X makes you more than just yourself; you're a member of a community, smarter, more with it than the dumbasses who bought Y instead.


That was one of the largest plot points in Mad Men: you're not selling a product, but rather, you're selling emotion.  They do it because an emotional choice is stronger than a logical one.

Problem is, for people not swayed by emotional ads, the ads come off as simplistic, juvenile and condescending.  Which is how we ended up with several pages of ranting in the linked article.


/if you don't like the ads, invest in a DVR and skip past them
//then subscribe to product review magazine or website when you're ready to buy
 
2014-03-04 03:59:10 PM
Commercials and advertisements of almost every sort are a poison that should be expunged from society as soon as possible.
 
2014-03-04 04:00:51 PM
Neal McDonough kicks ass in the Exceptionalism ad.
 
2014-03-04 04:01:08 PM
To be fair, those commercials suck all the dicks.
 
2014-03-04 04:02:26 PM

natmar_76: To be fair, those commercials suck all the dicks.


Let's be honest here.
 
2014-03-04 04:07:34 PM

FarkinNortherner: The car in the advert is on the GM Delta II platform, which was designed and developed in Germany.

[upload.wikimedia.org image 220x270]An exceptional American, pictured earlier


Some say that he's hypocritical; but call him, instead, apolitical:  "Once ze rockets are up who cares where zhey come down?  Zhat's not my depahtment!" says Werner Von Braun.
 
2014-03-04 04:13:57 PM

ikanreed: natmar_76: To be fair, commercials suck all the dicks.

Let's be honest here.


I'll drink to that.
 
2014-03-04 04:14:21 PM

TV's Vinnie: The only car commercials I'm offended by are the ones that Lexus puts out every Christmastime. Like do these asswipes actually think that there really is that large of a demographic of rich fathers buying crappy cars as a gift for their daughters and/or wives?

[2minutefinance.com image 637x349]

See? This guy shows his love by giving his wife a brand-new car! What did you get your wife last Christmas? A Keurig coffee maker? HUR HUR HUR! How cute.


Heh, I actually got a car for Christmas this year! Actually, we needed a car, and it happened to be in December, so...Merry Christmas Combustion!
 
2014-03-04 04:20:57 PM

Lucky LaRue: There will always be people who aren't driven to succeed and who are content to wallow in mediocrity and complain loudly and vociferously about successful Americans and America's success-driven culture.


Have you SEEN Cleveland?

Or Buffalo?

Or Detroit?

Or Atlanta?

Or Memphis that isn't Beale Street or FedEx?

Pittsburgh's OK, I suppose. Nice setting.

As for that Cadillac commercial with the gay stormtrooper, if you want to buy an electric car for 75K, you'd probably do better with a Tesla S. More time to work out the bugs.

Now this is a car commercial.
 
2014-03-04 04:25:52 PM
its funny how they have to go back at least 50 years to cite any real american accomplishments.

Just because we can't admit that we're now basically a 3rd world country doesn't mean it's not true.
 
2014-03-04 04:35:02 PM
gifs.gifbin.com
 
2014-03-04 04:40:53 PM

Because nothing says "American Quality" like a gigantic cheap plastic grill with a thin coat of silver paint that will be pock-marked with black divots within a matter of months.

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2014-03-04 04:41:13 PM
This commercial has already gotten some press: Liberals hate it; conservatives love it. Me? I'm a libertarian, so I don't give a shiat about the politics expressed in a car ad.


A libertarian so he doesn't understand basic economics, human behavior and can't learn from history but he knows what a good car ad should look like.
 
2014-03-04 04:56:31 PM
My favorite part was how they never actually showed the car moving.

Also, what an ugly shiatbox.  There are Hyundais I'd honestly rather drive than that thing.

/32, not the target demo, I know
 
2014-03-04 04:59:56 PM
Did they ever get the old man smell out of the Cadillacs?

The d-bag in the Caddy commercial is trying to sell style. He buttoned both buttons of his two button jacket. That's shows they don't know anything about style right there.
 
2014-03-04 05:03:23 PM

natmar_76: I'll drink to that.


Yeah, but what should we drink...

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2014-03-04 05:06:27 PM
I'd like to see a commercial featuring the guy who's like "I make a modest yet comfortable living, and I traded a raise for more vacation time. That's why I bought this other car. Life's too short to be conned by your company."
 
2014-03-04 05:14:13 PM

Lucky LaRue: There will always be people who aren't driven to succeed and who are content to wallow in mediocrity and complain loudly and vociferously about successful Americans and America's success-driven culture.


As will there always be people so facile in their drive for success they think they are above the populace, and deserve exponentially more for mostly having a big ego and a position of power. They will fallaciously believe their drive for more is worthwhile and will bring happiness only to find themselves always wanting more while driving a society off a cliff in their pursuits.
 
2014-03-04 05:16:26 PM

tricycleracer: It's aimed at the richest 1%
Not so, says Mr. Bierley. Rather than millionaires, the spot's targeted at customers who make around $200,000 a year.


So it's aimed at the richest 6%, then?
 
2014-03-04 05:17:10 PM

busy chillin': sendtodave: busy chillin': FTFA:

Me? I'm a libertarian, so I don't give a shiat about the politics expressed in a car ad.

*scrolls down a few seeing a sh*t load of words*

Yeah, you don't care. Sure thing, buddy.

*closes window*

... About the politics.

He cares about the shiatty car ads, obviously.  Because that's what TFA is about.

Well, I quit reading TFA obviously.


Hmmm... You didn't even read the snippet you posted?
 
2014-03-04 05:18:11 PM

xBIGxEASYx: busy chillin': sendtodave: busy chillin': FTFA:

Me? I'm a libertarian, so I don't give a shiat about the politics expressed in a car ad.

*scrolls down a few seeing a sh*t load of words*

Yeah, you don't care. Sure thing, buddy.

*closes window*

... About the politics.

He cares about the shiatty car ads, obviously.  Because that's what TFA is about.

Well, I quit reading TFA obviously.

Hmmm... You didn't even read the snippet you posted?


nope. I didn't even read this post.
 
2014-03-04 05:21:24 PM
What's worse was the Presidents' Day ads that basically had Lincoln and T. Roosevelt endorse for Jeep or whatever.
 
2014-03-04 05:27:59 PM
its funny how they have to go back at least 50 years to cite any real american accomplishments.

Just because we can't admit that we're now basically a 3rd world country doesn't mean it's not true


I agree with your first sentence but find it sad, not funny.

However, a complete dismissal of any American exceptionalism would require skipping  twentieth century history.
 
2014-03-04 05:28:43 PM
The Stealth Hippopotamus: Yeah, but what should we drink...

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I would drink her, yes.
 
2014-03-04 06:10:27 PM

TV's Vinnie: See? This guy shows his love by giving his wife a brand-new car! What did you get your wife last Christmas? A Keurig coffee maker? HUR HUR HUR! How cute.


Yeah, those piss me off too. What's puzzling is I really don't think the "buys a Lexus for Christmas" demographic is that large at all, so I can't figure out where the advantage for them comes in poking the 95% in the eye with a sharp stick.
 
2014-03-04 06:11:47 PM

akula: doubled99: Patriotic pride denotes ignorance-unless it's another country than this one.

Makes you wonder if the asshole who wrote TFA also freaks out when Volkswagen touts their "German engineering" or when Fiat talks about "Italian style."


Both of those have to do with the actual car. "German engineering" implies that it is a safe and well-built vehicle, while "Italian style" implies that the car is artistic and luxurious. All this commercial sells is US arrogance; it's message is "yeah you're an asshole who thinks nobody with less money than you works hard and that furners are spineless whiny cretins! This is a car for assholes like that!! Buy it you farking asshole piece of shiat goddamn it BUY THE CAAAR!".

Not only is it not selling the car, it's not selling the car buy selling smug, privileged condescension with the face of an actor best known for playing a murderous, torturing-fetishist and child molester. So basically, it hit all the marks it needed to hit to sell this to their target demo; petty-rich Conservatives who like to think they're richer than they are, and that they matter.
 
2014-03-04 06:12:54 PM

jacknifetrucker: Sybarite: Anyone that would pay $75K (base price) for a tarted up Volt really isn't really the savviest consumer to begin with.

Where the hell do you car shop, 42k in TX for a loaded volt. Just bought my wife a new car for xmas . Didn't get a volt though.


OK, either I'm missing something or you're having a reading comprehension fail today. "$75K (base price) for a tarted up Volt" is in reference to the CADDY IN THE COMMERCIAL being a tarted-up Volt that costs $75k, not to the Volt itself being $75k.
 
2014-03-04 06:34:12 PM

wantingout: Just because we can't admit that we're now basically a 3rd world country doesn't mean it's not true.


I would love to hear your justification of the statement "we're now basically a 3rd world country". I'm having a bad day and could use a laugh.
 
2014-03-04 07:37:47 PM

Fuggin Bizzy: TV's Vinnie: See? This guy shows his love by giving his wife a brand-new car! What did you get your wife last Christmas? A Keurig coffee maker? HUR HUR HUR! How cute.

Yeah, those piss me off too. What's puzzling is I really don't think the "buys a Lexus for Christmas" demographic is that large at all, so I can't figure out where the advantage for them comes in poking the 95% in the eye with a sharp stick.


I think it's the 1%ers' overwhelming fetish for being dicks. Even more so at Christmas time, when they can flaunt their money in everyone else's faces.
 
2014-03-04 07:45:52 PM

TV's Vinnie: Fuggin Bizzy: TV's Vinnie: See? This guy shows his love by giving his wife a brand-new car! What did you get your wife last Christmas? A Keurig coffee maker? HUR HUR HUR! How cute.

Yeah, those piss me off too. What's puzzling is I really don't think the "buys a Lexus for Christmas" demographic is that large at all, so I can't figure out where the advantage for them comes in poking the 95% in the eye with a sharp stick.

I think it's the 1%ers' overwhelming fetish for being dicks. Even more so at Christmas time, when they can flaunt their money in everyone else's faces.


You sound oppressed
 
2014-03-04 08:42:33 PM

jim32rr: TV's Vinnie: Fuggin Bizzy: TV's Vinnie: See? This guy shows his love by giving his wife a brand-new car! What did you get your wife last Christmas? A Keurig coffee maker? HUR HUR HUR! How cute.

Yeah, those piss me off too. What's puzzling is I really don't think the "buys a Lexus for Christmas" demographic is that large at all, so I can't figure out where the advantage for them comes in poking the 95% in the eye with a sharp stick.

I think it's the 1%ers' overwhelming fetish for being dicks. Even more so at Christmas time, when they can flaunt their money in everyone else's faces.

You sound oppressed


Oh, it's you again.

If you're not part of the 1%, then you ARE oppressed, whether you want to recognize it or not.
 
2014-03-04 08:55:10 PM

TV's Vinnie: jim32rr: TV's Vinnie: Fuggin Bizzy: TV's Vinnie: See? This guy shows his love by giving his wife a brand-new car! What did you get your wife last Christmas? A Keurig coffee maker? HUR HUR HUR! How cute.

Yeah, those piss me off too. What's puzzling is I really don't think the "buys a Lexus for Christmas" demographic is that large at all, so I can't figure out where the advantage for them comes in poking the 95% in the eye with a sharp stick.

I think it's the 1%ers' overwhelming fetish for being dicks. Even more so at Christmas time, when they can flaunt their money in everyone else's faces.

You sound oppressed

Oh, it's you again.

If you're not part of the 1%, then you ARE oppressed, whether you want to recognize it or not.


If you buy a new Lexus without being part of the 1%, are you oppressed or not?
 
2014-03-04 09:07:23 PM

TV's Vinnie: jim32rr: TV's Vinnie: Fuggin Bizzy: TV's Vinnie: See? This guy shows his love by giving his wife a brand-new car! What did you get your wife last Christmas? A Keurig coffee maker? HUR HUR HUR! How cute.

Yeah, those piss me off too. What's puzzling is I really don't think the "buys a Lexus for Christmas" demographic is that large at all, so I can't figure out where the advantage for them comes in poking the 95% in the eye with a sharp stick.

I think it's the 1%ers' overwhelming fetish for being dicks. Even more so at Christmas time, when they can flaunt their money in everyone else's faces.

You sound oppressed

Oh, it's you again.

If you're not part of the 1%, then you ARE oppressed, whether you want to recognize it or not.


Thought maybe you were trying to out yourself as the writer of the story. Still friends?
 
2014-03-04 09:40:10 PM
America
America
America, fark Yeah!
Comin' again to save the motherfarkin' day, Yeah
America, fark Yeah!
Freedom is the only way, Yeah
Terrorists, your game is through
'cause now you have ta answer to
America, fark yeah!
So lick my butt and suck on my balls
America, fark Yeah!
Whatcha' gonna do when we come for you now
It's the dream that we all share
It's the hope for tomorrow
(fark Yeah!)
McDonald's (fark Yeah!)
Wal-Mart (fark Yeah!)
The Gap (fark Yeah!)
Baseball (fark Yeah!)
The NFL (fark Yeah!)
Rock N' Roll (fark Yeah!)
The Internet (fark Yeah!)
Slavery (fark Yeah!)
fark Yeah!
Starbucks (fark Yeah!)
Disneyworld (fark Yeah!)
Porno (fark Yeah!)
Valium (fark Yeah!)
Reeboks (fark Yeah!)
Fake Tits (fark Yeah!)
Sushi (fark Yeah!)
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Rodeos (fark Yeah!)
Bed, Bath and Beyond (fark yeah..fark Yeah)
Liberty (fark Yeah!)
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The Alamo (fark Yeah!)
Band-aids (fark Yeah!)
Las Vegas (fark Yeah!)
Christmas (fark Yeah!)
Immigrants (fark Yeah!)
Popeyes (fark Yeah!)
Democrats (fark Yeah!)
Republicans (..fark Yeah..fark Yeah)
Sportsmanship (...)
Books (....)
 
2014-03-04 09:42:13 PM
Half time shows have sucked for the last 10yrs. I watch porn.
 
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