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(Washington Post)   Republicans, one week ago: Obama's sweeping use of imperial power makes him a king, a God-king, a dictator ruling every facet of our lives. This week: OMG, why is Obama so feeble and weak?   (washingtonpost.com) divider line 163
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2014-03-04 11:42:40 AM

Wooly Bully: hubiestubert: In fairness, a weakened Ukraine, even a Ukraine minus Crimea if they break off isn't exactly a bad outcome for the Europeans

True, the Europeans have their reasons for being reluctant to go along with sanctions, although they've, uh, made mistakes before.

But I was just saying the idea that Obama's weak for not taking unilateral action is ludicrous (as I'm sure you'd agree).


I was more looking to back up the point, that trying to get anything like a consensus for action in this case is MORE than just trying to herd cats. It's not just Russia that is looking at a shake up in Ukraine as an opportunity. Europe is more than willing to let Ukraine burn down a few buildings, and shoot some civilians, if it gets them a better deal on gas and goods, and while Europe is willing to let them shoot up their own populace for a while, Russia has assets that they really don't won't f*cked with, and are willing to prove that point by sending in troops to keep folks from the western portion of the country the heck out of their backyard. That Russia stepped in before folks started shooting one another IS decisive action, and in this case, it might actually work to get the factions to focus on something OTHER than each other and their mutual distrust and bad blood. The Crimea looking to leave, and with backing, might actually be the best thing for these folks, and lead to a lot less bloodshed.
 
2014-03-04 11:43:38 AM

hubiestubert: The Stealth Hippopotamus:  Ok, lets be perfectly clear. I do not want to "do something" if that includes gun powder or jet fuel.

In that case, I apologize. These threads it's sometimes hard to keep track, but it IS on me to do so. Mea culpa.


He just wants Obama to STAND UP to Putin and BE TOUGH to KEEP HIM IN LINE, but without Obama actually doing anything.
 
2014-03-04 11:46:12 AM

Lucky LaRue: My observation that this wouldn't be necessary if he was possessed of true leadership ability isn't just confined to how Farkers react, but to how the entire liberal machine reacts.


There's a big distinction between defending Obama and being fed up with inconsistencies on the part of the GOP. Example: Lindsay Graham decrying Pentagon budget cuts, when he was central to the sequestration in the first place. I'm not in any way defending the White house budget, I'm saying Graham is a liar and a dumbass.
 
2014-03-04 11:48:36 AM
BTW, Kerry is giving a press conference now- he only just learned from Andrea Mitchell than Putin denied any Russian troops in Crimea. Kerry's double-take was pretty funny.

/well, if this were a funny situation
 
2014-03-04 11:48:38 AM

Satanic_Hamster: hubiestubert: The Stealth Hippopotamus:  Ok, lets be perfectly clear. I do not want to "do something" if that includes gun powder or jet fuel.

In that case, I apologize. These threads it's sometimes hard to keep track, but it IS on me to do so. Mea culpa.

He just wants Obama to STAND UP to Putin and BE TOUGH to KEEP HIM IN LINE, but without Obama actually doing anything.


I won't speak for anyone else, but from my own perspective, I regret that Obama has projected such a milquetoast image that Putin feels confident in thumbing his nose at the United States and its international interests.  If we had a stronger leader that made more confident foreign policy decisions and wasn't seen as unwilling to back his own policy decisions (as Obama did with Syria), then perhaps Putin would have been more inclined to have taken US interests into account.
 
2014-03-04 11:48:46 AM

Lucky LaRue: the entire liberal machine


What exactly is the liberal machine?
 
2014-03-04 11:48:52 AM
he should put out a photo of himself riding a bull shirtless.
 
2014-03-04 11:48:56 AM

threedingers: It's simple. When Obama decides to take unilateral action that the GOP doesn't like he's a tyrant. When he doesn't take unilateral action that the GOP wants, he's spineless.

Clearly Obama needs to anticipate exactly what the GOP wants him to do, when they want him to do it and just get on with it. It's what a true leader would do.


avcssbasketball.com

GOP FOUL CALLED!

Obama is Presidenting While Black!
 
2014-03-04 11:49:07 AM

RexTalionis: What's also funny is that I'm starting to hear people praising Putin because they think Putin is making Obama look bad.

For instance:

https://www.teaparty.org/giuliani-putin-leader-obama-read-latest-bre ak ing-news-newsmax-com-httpwww-newsmax-comnewsfrontrudolph-giuliani-vlad imir-putin-leader-ukraine20140303id555803ixzz2uwj1p3-36100/

http://www.teaparty.org/romney-putin-better-president-obama-33576/

https://www.teaparty.org/putin-humiliates-obama-u-s-media-ukraine-35 95 9/

http://www.teaparty.org/kristol-putin-acts-obama-affirms-35902/


If Obama could act the same way Putin can in Russia, Fox News would now be owned by the US government, Roger Ailes would be  serving 20 years for tax evasion, 1500 right wing radio stations would be playing nothing but country music, and the teaparty.org people would all be mysteriously murdered.

/I'm not kidding.
//Putin is a stone cold ruthless dictator.
///When China and Russia agree it's ok and Europe is as weak as ever, there is no play for the US. Don't care who is President.
 
2014-03-04 11:49:47 AM

Lucky LaRue: thamike: Lucky LaRue: In politics, if you aren't staying in the public conscious (whether its with GOP wishy-washy nothingness or Democrats promise of rainbows and unicorns), then you aren't even playing the game.

You were talking about people's reactions on Fark, which has f*ck-all to do with anything important.

Every time the GOP puts out a talking point critical of Obama and his foreign policy debacles (whether real or construed), the liberal machine leaps into action with a vociferous defense of their party's leader.  My observation that this wouldn't be necessary if he was possessed of true leadership ability isn't just confined to how Farkers react, but to how the entire liberal machine reacts.


Really?

I live in a  liberal paradise (according to people who have no idea what the place is like), and many of the people around me are upset the President threatened Putin with "consequences"(nebulous as those may be), because they are tired of war, and tired of the President bombing people with drones, and generally mucking about as a hegemon.
 
2014-03-04 11:49:49 AM

The Stealth Hippopotamus: UrukHaiGuyz: Russia would have just immediately vetoed Peace Keeping UN forces from it's spot on the Security Council. Wasn't ever an option.

Perfect. Then Russia admits that the UN is useless waste of the world's time or they have to admit that the people's well being isn't a concern.


It all happened too fast. The Russians military in Crimea (which Russia still claims are mostly independent Crimean militias) had a plan ready to execute the moment Yanukovych was deposed, it seems. I'm not even sure that a resolution on the use of force could even come to a vote without Russia's support. The U.N. is notoriously slow to act. Obama has a firmer footing dealing with NATO for the moment, especially as that appears to be Russia's primary concern regarding Ukraine.
 
2014-03-04 11:50:44 AM
Lucky LaRue:
Every time the GOP puts out a talking point critical of Obama and his foreign policy debacles (whether real or construed), the liberal machine leaps into action with a vociferous defense of their party's leader.  My observation that this wouldn't be necessary if he was possessed of true leadership ability isn't just confined to how Farkers react, but to how the entire liberal machine reacts.

Can you actually make some sort of point?  You come one here kvetching that Obama isn't showing "leadership" and when asked simply to describe how Obama is being weak and what he should be doing differently you immediately retreated into "the liberal machine is defends Obama no matter what!"

Since you seem unable to actually articulate what the hell it is you think Obama is doing wrong you have pretty much given up your right to b pissy that people are defending him against your vague and hyperbolic accusations.
 
2014-03-04 11:51:40 AM

hubiestubert: That Russia stepped in before folks started shooting one another IS decisive action, and in this case, it might actually work to get the factions to focus on something OTHER than each other and their mutual distrust and bad blood


Wow, you really are much more optimistic than me. I see everything Russia has done there as deliberately stoking partisan hatred.
 
2014-03-04 11:53:04 AM

Satanic_Hamster: hubiestubert: The Stealth Hippopotamus:  Ok, lets be perfectly clear. I do not want to "do something" if that includes gun powder or jet fuel.

In that case, I apologize. These threads it's sometimes hard to keep track, but it IS on me to do so. Mea culpa.

He just wants Obama to STAND UP to Putin and BE TOUGH to KEEP HIM IN LINE, but without Obama actually doing anything.


No, he was right. I took his stance to be something else, and I can accept being called on something. I know it's not proper Internet protocol, but I am old fashioned.
 
2014-03-04 11:53:37 AM

T-Servo: Lucky LaRue: My observation that this wouldn't be necessary if he was possessed of true leadership ability isn't just confined to how Farkers react, but to how the entire liberal machine reacts.

There's a big distinction between defending Obama and being fed up with inconsistencies on the part of the GOP. Example: Lindsay Graham decrying Pentagon budget cuts, when he was central to the sequestration in the first place. I'm not in any way defending the White house budget, I'm saying Graham is a liar and a dumbass.


Thanks, that's a perfect example.  I am not motivated in any way to put up a vociferous defense on Lindsay Graham's behalf.  That is how you can tell that Graham is an effective leader - nobody needs to try to shout down the partisan chaff when it arises.
 
2014-03-04 11:54:33 AM

BSABSVR: King Something: Republicans would side with Hitler before they would side with Obama.

"At least Hitler was decisive and patriotic!"


He was way too anti gun.
 
2014-03-04 11:55:51 AM

Lucky LaRue: thamike: Lucky LaRue: In politics, if you aren't staying in the public conscious (whether its with GOP wishy-washy nothingness or Democrats promise of rainbows and unicorns), then you aren't even playing the game.

You were talking about people's reactions on Fark, which has f*ck-all to do with anything important.

Every time the GOP puts out a talking point critical of Obama and his foreign policy debacles (whether real or construed), the liberal machine leaps into action with a vociferous defense of their party's leader.  My observation that this wouldn't be necessary if he was possessed of true leadership ability isn't just confined to how Farkers react, but to how the entire liberal machine reacts.


Crazy-like typing detected.

Imaginary conspiracies always give you folks away.
 
2014-03-04 11:57:48 AM

Lucky LaRue: T-Servo: Lucky LaRue: My observation that this wouldn't be necessary if he was possessed of true leadership ability isn't just confined to how Farkers react, but to how the entire liberal machine reacts.

There's a big distinction between defending Obama and being fed up with inconsistencies on the part of the GOP. Example: Lindsay Graham decrying Pentagon budget cuts, when he was central to the sequestration in the first place. I'm not in any way defending the White house budget, I'm saying Graham is a liar and a dumbass.

Thanks, that's a perfect example.  I am not motivated in any way to put up a vociferous defense on Lindsay Graham's behalf.  That is how you can tell that Graham is an effective leader - nobody needs to try to shout down the partisan chaff when it arises.


Okay

Okay

You got me.

I giggled at that one. I love your act, Lucky!
 
2014-03-04 11:58:52 AM

Wooly Bully: hubiestubert: That Russia stepped in before folks started shooting one another IS decisive action, and in this case, it might actually work to get the factions to focus on something OTHER than each other and their mutual distrust and bad blood

Wow, you really are much more optimistic than me. I see everything Russia has done there as deliberately stoking partisan hatred.


Which will push Crimea to look on them as protectors, which will keep them in their sphere of influence. It's power politics to be certain, and hardly subtle, but it might wind up with less civilians killed in shelling and quiet disappearances. The rest of Ukraine, maybe not so much, but if Crimea goes, then they'll have other fires to put out, and they'll be looking to Europe further, and that will mean having to play nice.

It's not so much optimistic, than looking the pig in the face and seeing all the spots.
 
2014-03-04 12:02:18 PM

menschenfresser: Lucky LaRue: thamike: Lucky LaRue: In politics, if you aren't staying in the public conscious (whether its with GOP wishy-washy nothingness or Democrats promise of rainbows and unicorns), then you aren't even playing the game.

You were talking about people's reactions on Fark, which has f*ck-all to do with anything important.

Every time the GOP puts out a talking point critical of Obama and his foreign policy debacles (whether real or construed), the liberal machine leaps into action with a vociferous defense of their party's leader.  My observation that this wouldn't be necessary if he was possessed of true leadership ability isn't just confined to how Farkers react, but to how the entire liberal machine reacts.

Crazy-like typing detected.

Imaginary conspiracies always give you folks away.


img.fark.net
 
2014-03-04 12:04:06 PM

UrukHaiGuyz: It all happened too fast. The Russians military in Crimea (which Russia still claims are mostly independent Crimean militias) had a plan ready to execute the moment Yanukovych was deposed, it seems. I'm not even sure that a resolution on the use of force could even come to a vote without Russia's support. The U.N. is notoriously slow to act. Obama has a firmer footing dealing with NATO for the moment, especially as that appears to be Russia's primary concern regarding Ukraine.


The UN is very slow to act. That's the whole point. They'd gum up the works and get in the way. And it was just begging Russia or China to veto

Putin had this all planned from the get go, so we are playing catch up.
 
2014-03-04 12:05:02 PM

Lucky LaRue: threedingers: It's simple. When Obama decides to take unilateral action that the GOP doesn't like he's a tyrant. When he doesn't take unilateral action that the GOP wants, he's spineless.

Clearly Obama needs to anticipate exactly what the GOP wants him to do, when they want him to do it and just get on with it. It's what a true leader would do.

The fact that the GOPs talking points send you guys into such a tizzy every freaking time is evidence enough of his lack of leadership on foreign policy issues. If he was a "true leader" his followers wouldn't have to scramble to do damage control every time he speaks on international issues.


Tizzy = pointing and laughing at the internal inconsistencies of GOP talking points.

Got it.
 
2014-03-04 12:14:25 PM
I'm just really concerned that Obama isn't a strong enough leader and his inability to stand up to Putin makes us look weak... Don't ask me what he should be doing differently, of course, but he should definitely be doing something different.

*rolls eyes* Give me a farking break.
 
2014-03-04 12:14:45 PM

Lucky LaRue: T-Servo: Lucky LaRue: My observation that this wouldn't be necessary if he was possessed of true leadership ability isn't just confined to how Farkers react, but to how the entire liberal machine reacts.

There's a big distinction between defending Obama and being fed up with inconsistencies on the part of the GOP. Example: Lindsay Graham decrying Pentagon budget cuts, when he was central to the sequestration in the first place. I'm not in any way defending the White house budget, I'm saying Graham is a liar and a dumbass.

Thanks, that's a perfect example.  I am not motivated in any way to put up a vociferous defense on Lindsay Graham's behalf.  That is how you can tell that Graham is an effective leader - nobody needs to try to shout down the partisan chaff when it arises.


i457.photobucket.com
 
2014-03-04 12:16:15 PM

Lucky LaRue: I regret that Obama has projected such a milquetoast image that Putin feels confident in thumbing his nose at the United States and its international interests.


Funny since the old talking point was that Obama was a warmonger for using drones and intervening in Libya.
 
2014-03-04 12:38:34 PM

The Stealth Hippopotamus: UrukHaiGuyz: It all happened too fast. The Russians military in Crimea (which Russia still claims are mostly independent Crimean militias) had a plan ready to execute the moment Yanukovych was deposed, it seems. I'm not even sure that a resolution on the use of force could even come to a vote without Russia's support. The U.N. is notoriously slow to act. Obama has a firmer footing dealing with NATO for the moment, especially as that appears to be Russia's primary concern regarding Ukraine.

The UN is very slow to act. That's the whole point. They'd gum up the works and get in the way. And it was just begging Russia or China to veto

Putin had this all planned from the get go, so we are playing catch up.


My point is that in this instance (and in any instance where a member of the Security Council is acting aggressively) the U.N. is not helpful in any way, as it will not act unless sanctioned by the Security Council. NATO is the traditional (and more effective) deterrent against Russian aggression, and should be the unified front in opposing Putin.
 
2014-03-04 12:55:48 PM

Lucky LaRue: I won't speak for anyone else, but from my own perspective, I regret that Obama has projected such a milquetoast image that Putin feels confident in thumbing his nose at the United States and its international interests. If we had a stronger leader that made more confident foreign policy decisions and wasn't seen as unwilling to back his own policy decisions (as Obama did with Syria), then perhaps Putin would have been more inclined to have taken US interests into account.


Your ability to contort reality to fit your preconceptions would be impressive to watch if you weren't so gleefully rooting for the decline of your own country.
 
2014-03-04 01:09:31 PM
It's easier to curse the darkness than to light a candle.
 
2014-03-04 01:10:42 PM

UrukHaiGuyz: My point is that in this instance (and in any instance where a member of the Security Council is acting aggressively) the U.N. is not helpful in any way, as it will not act unless sanctioned by the Security Council. NATO is the traditional (and more effective) deterrent against Russian aggression, and should be the unified front in opposing Putin.


Sorry, I think I didn't explain myself well. I dont think the UN will fix anything! Never has, never will. But what they are good at is gumming up the works and slowing things down. Which is what we need right now. I think the Ukraine is just the first step. Maybe if we slow it down enough the other countries in the area can get on a war footing it may make Putin think twice. And if Putin doesn't want to play along with the statesmanship he will lose China. Either way we just need to buy time right now.

Russian troops along the LIT and Poland boarder
 
2014-03-04 01:20:24 PM
He is all things to all the wrong people.

Monday - He's a racist, spear-chucking, ni-bong monkey... a handin' out Food Stamps and rapin' our white women.
Tuesday - Dope smoking, abortionist who is forcing gay marriage down our throats and appointin' "activist judges".
Wednesday - Power-grabbing megalomaniac who refuses to compromise or work with House & Senate Republicans.
Thursday - Gun-grabbing, homo loving abortionist who should be impeached for destroying our Constitution.
Friday - Arugula-eating Poupon-slathering Harvard elitist with questionable college transcripts.
Saturday - Cowardly, weak-on-defense. drone shooting Commander-in-Cheat troops-hater that is destroying the military.
Sunday - Christian-bashing Kenyan Muslim usurper who worships Satan and Rev Jeremiah Wright with no presidential experience other than being a "Chicago politics" community organizer.

And the worst of ALL? HE'S BLACK!!!
 
2014-03-04 01:27:49 PM

Lucky LaRue: menschenfresser: Lucky LaRue: thamike: Lucky LaRue: In politics, if you aren't staying in the public conscious (whether its with GOP wishy-washy nothingness or Democrats promise of rainbows and unicorns), then you aren't even playing the game.

You were talking about people's reactions on Fark, which has f*ck-all to do with anything important.

Every time the GOP puts out a talking point critical of Obama and his foreign policy debacles (whether real or construed), the liberal machine leaps into action with a vociferous defense of their party's leader.  My observation that this wouldn't be necessary if he was possessed of true leadership ability isn't just confined to how Farkers react, but to how the entire liberal machine reacts.

Crazy-like typing detected.

Imaginary conspiracies always give you folks away.

[img.fark.net image 530x260]


The ironing is delicious.
 
2014-03-04 01:33:01 PM

thamike: Lucky LaRue: menschenfresser: Lucky LaRue: thamike: Lucky LaRue: In politics, if you aren't staying in the public conscious (whether its with GOP wishy-washy nothingness or Democrats promise of rainbows and unicorns), then you aren't even playing the game.

You were talking about people's reactions on Fark, which has f*ck-all to do with anything important.

Every time the GOP puts out a talking point critical of Obama and his foreign policy debacles (whether real or construed), the liberal machine leaps into action with a vociferous defense of their party's leader.  My observation that this wouldn't be necessary if he was possessed of true leadership ability isn't just confined to how Farkers react, but to how the entire liberal machine reacts.

Crazy-like typing detected.

Imaginary conspiracies always give you folks away.

[img.fark.net image 530x260]

The ironing is delicious.


Well, assuming you meant "irony":

www.charlieglickman.com
 
2014-03-04 01:33:09 PM

Dahnkster: He is all things to all the wrong people.

Monday - He's a racist, spear-chucking, ni-bong monkey... a handin' out Food Stamps and rapin' our white women.
Tuesday - Dope smoking, abortionist who is forcing gay marriage down our throats and appointin' "activist judges".
Wednesday - Power-grabbing megalomaniac who refuses to compromise or work with House & Senate Republicans.
Thursday - Gun-grabbing, homo loving abortionist who should be impeached for destroying our Constitution.
Friday - Arugula-eating Poupon-slathering Harvard elitist with questionable college transcripts.
Saturday - Cowardly, weak-on-defense. drone shooting Commander-in-Cheat troops-hater that is destroying the military.
Sunday - Christian-bashing Kenyan Muslim usurper who worships Satan and Rev Jeremiah Wright with no presidential experience other than being a "Chicago politics" community organizer.

And the worst of ALL? HE'S BLACK!!!


my, you're a bitter little closet racist, aren't you?
 
2014-03-04 01:41:33 PM
What is this "liberal machine"  people are always talking about.
 
2014-03-04 01:43:38 PM
 Well, assuming you meant "irony":

Truly, a rapier wit, this one.
 
2014-03-04 01:44:52 PM

durasells: What is this "liberal machine"  people are always talking about.


site.unbeatablesale.com

The gateway Liberal Machine.
 
2014-03-04 01:48:55 PM

thamike: Well, assuming you meant "irony":

Truly, a rapier wit, this one.


Now *that's* ad hominem.  Keep working at it.  You'll get all the pieces to come together eventually and then you will really be able to put me in my place.
 
2014-03-04 01:51:03 PM
img.fark.net
 
2014-03-04 01:54:27 PM
Then, from what I'm told, it leads to:


ecx.images-amazon.com


s3.amazonaws.com


www.smartusa.com


img.fark.netimg.fark.netmiamiherald.typepad.comtheallegiant.comimg.fark.netimg.fark.netkattankudi.info

 
2014-03-04 01:55:54 PM

Lucky LaRue: thamike: Well, assuming you meant "irony":

Truly, a rapier wit, this one.

Now *that's* ad hominem.  Keep working at it.  You'll get all the pieces to come together eventually and then you will really be able to put me in my place.


You're already fully wedged in your place, apparently.
 
2014-03-04 01:56:52 PM
colon_pow:
my, you're a bitter little closet racist, aren't you?

Google any of the terms and phrases I used next to the word "Obama" and then tell me where I'm wrong.
Yes, clearly I'm the "racist" for pointing out your racism...
What, when you buy a white hood and robe like this I bet you get a free bowl of soup, huh?
Oh, it looks good on you though.
 
2014-03-04 02:05:42 PM

Lucky LaRue: Now *that's* ad hominem.


Somewhere, someone is deeply regretting teaching you that word.
 
2014-03-04 02:08:34 PM

udhq: Lucky LaRue: Now *that's* ad hominem.

Somewhere, someone is deeply regretting teaching you mentioning that word in your presence.


Sorry, I hate FTFYs too, but it applies to him.
 
2014-03-04 02:10:35 PM

Dahnkster: colon_pow:
my, you're a bitter little closet racist, aren't you?

Google any of the terms and phrases I used next to the word "Obama" and then tell me where I'm wrong.
Yes, clearly I'm the "racist" for pointing out your racism...
What, when you buy a white hood and robe like this I bet you get a free bowl of soup, huh?
Oh, it looks good on you though.


ok.  i googled "obama rapes white women".
didn't see any accusations.
you're making this shiat up, aren't you, you pesky little race baiter.
run along now.
 
2014-03-04 02:12:49 PM
Lucky LaRue:

Well, assuming you meant "irony":

[www.charlieglickman.com image 300x183]


No irony pretty much nails it.  You jump on this thread making a series of ad hominem attacks on Obama (you can't even articulate what you think he should be doing) and then spend the rest of the thread getting angry at "ad hominem" attacks being directed at you.
 
2014-03-04 02:17:25 PM

durasells: What is this "liberal machine"  people are always talking about.


www.strangecosmos.com
 
2014-03-04 02:23:39 PM

amiable: No irony pretty much nails it.  You jump on this thread making a series of ad hominem attacks on Obama (you can't even articulate what you think he should be doing) and then spend the rest of the thread getting angry at "ad hominem" attacks being directed at you.


If he mentions "obfuscation" Mandy Patinkin's going to reach through the internet and piss on his bagel.
 
2014-03-04 02:28:30 PM

amiable: Lucky LaRue:

Well, assuming you meant "irony":

[www.charlieglickman.com image 300x183]

No irony pretty much nails it.  You jump on this thread making a series of ad hominem attacks on Obama (you can't even articulate what you think he should be doing) and then spend the rest of the thread getting angry at "ad hominem" attacks being directed at you.


That is due to the inarguable fact that he is rubber, and you are glue.  Whatever insults you hurl at him immediately bounce off, due to his consistency, and invariably stick to you.

/Checkmate, Libtard
//Time to fold your cards.
 
2014-03-04 02:36:48 PM

udhq: Lucky LaRue: I won't speak for anyone else, but from my own perspective, I regret that Obama has projected such a milquetoast image that Putin feels confident in thumbing his nose at the United States and its international interests. If we had a stronger leader that made more confident foreign policy decisions and wasn't seen as unwilling to back his own policy decisions (as Obama did with Syria), then perhaps Putin would have been more inclined to have taken US interests into account.

Your ability to contort reality to fit your preconceptions would be impressive to watch if you weren't so gleefully rooting for the decline of your own country.


I dunno, his brand of willful ignorance and absolute lack of self awareness are sort of cute. Like a kitten stalking a full grown goat...
 
2014-03-04 03:38:13 PM

Lucky LaRue: It's obvious he is showing weakness in this particular political situation, just like he showed weakness on the Syria question.


Donnchadha: [data3.whicdn.com image 420x294]


Nothing more to be said. Vague platitudes that essential boil down to, 'Obama bad.'

Literally everything he does is wrong to these people, no matter what he chooses. The fact that they can't even recognize it with themselves is the most pathetic part. "yeah I can't say what he should have done that I would quantify as 'right,' but it was still wrong, whatever he did that I don't even know about"
 
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