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(Daily Mail)   Well there might be some ethnic cleansing of the native Tartars in Crimea if Russia sticks around. No word on how this will affect fish dipping   (dailymail.co.uk) divider line 75
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2014-03-04 12:09:16 PM
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2014-03-04 12:09:51 PM

Cold_Sassy: syrynxx: probesport: The best tartar sauce recipe

1 cup Mayo (more or less to taste)
1 finely chopped red onion
1/4 cup chopped bread & butter pickles
1/4 cup chopped kosher dill pickles
1 clove garlic, fresh pressed
dash of freshly ground mustard
salt & pepper to taste

Or you could just use Miracle Whip.

Miracle Whip isn't dressing.  Can't believe it is still on grocery store shelves.


So I realize this will sound horrible, but a Miracle Whip-peanut butter sandwich is delicious.
 
2014-03-04 12:19:54 PM
Ready for battle:

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2014-03-04 12:27:13 PM

Tyrone Slothrop: Cold_Sassy: syrynxx: probesport: The best tartar sauce recipe

1 cup Mayo (more or less to taste)
1 finely chopped red onion
1/4 cup chopped bread & butter pickles
1/4 cup chopped kosher dill pickles
1 clove garlic, fresh pressed
dash of freshly ground mustard
salt & pepper to taste

Or you could just use Miracle Whip.

Miracle Whip isn't dressing.  Can't believe it is still on grocery store shelves.

So I realize this will sound horrible, but a Miracle Whip-peanut butter sandwich is delicious.


Try adding some lettuce to that!!!
 
2014-03-04 12:27:45 PM

Shadi: native Tartars

They're not really "natives" of the region.  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mongol_Empire

Native is such a BS word anyways.


Their language would tend to indicate that they are mainly descended from Turkic-speaking people who lived in the area for several centuries before the Mongols arrived.

There are Tatars on the Volga, too, who have in recent history had pretty good relations with their Russian and Finnic neighbors.
 
2014-03-04 12:31:26 PM
And here I thought Tartar was a grumpy cat.
 
2014-03-04 12:32:08 PM

space1999: My father is a Crimean Tatar who fled with his family 70 years ago when the Russians came.


That must be why you can spell it correctly
 
2014-03-04 12:35:16 PM
It's probably their diet.

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2014-03-04 12:38:11 PM

cretinbob: space1999: My father is a Crimean Tatar who fled with his family 70 years ago when the Russians came.

That must be why you can spell it correctly


Hmm... I just noticed that everyone else is misspelling it.  Brilliant.  Here's a hint, people:

Tartar -- a sauce made from mayonnaise
Tatar -- an ethnic people in and near Crimea
 
2014-03-04 12:48:10 PM

BlackMtnMan: And here I thought Tartar was a grumpy cat.


Her name is Tardar
 
2014-03-04 12:58:57 PM

ShadowKamui: BlackMtnMan: And here I thought Tartar was a grumpy cat.

Her name is Tardar


Technically, her name is "Champion Mountcascade's Starlight".  We call her Tar-tar for short:

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2014-03-04 01:14:48 PM

CRIMEA RIVER!!!

 
2014-03-04 01:15:27 PM
Whatever..... Tardar Sauce disapproves.
 
2014-03-04 01:33:08 PM

space1999: cretinbob: space1999: My father is a Crimean Tatar who fled with his family 70 years ago when the Russians came.

That must be why you can spell it correctly

Hmm... I just noticed that everyone else is misspelling it.  Brilliant.  Here's a hint, people:

Tartar -- a sauce made from mayonnaise
Tatar -- an ethnic people in and near Crimea


"Tartar" is, or once was, at least, an acceptable alternative rendering of "Tatar."  This rhyme about John Keats, attributed to Lord Byron, is evidence:

Who killed John Keats?
I, says the Quarterly,
So savage and Tartarly;
"Twas one of my feats."

http://izquotes.com/quote/215813
 
2014-03-04 01:53:22 PM
Not to diminish the plight of the Crimean Tartars, but the Tartars aren't considered ethnic Ukrainians, and prior to 1954, Crimea was never considered to be a part of Ukraine.  Also, historically, prior to Crimean being annexed by the Russian Empire in 1783, the Ukrainians and the Crimean Tartars were generally enemies.  The Tartars, both as the Khanate of Crimea and under the Ottoman Empire ran an extensive slave trade by raiding Ukraine and other neighboring regions to capture slaves which were then exported all over.  Obviously, it's not fair to judge a people by the sins of their ancestors, especially concerning events that happened three centuries ago, but the point I'm trying to make is that the ethnic make-up and history of Crimea is of almost no legitimate relevance when it comes to debating what Crimea's future should be in relation to Ukraine.  The persecution of the Crimean Tartars all took place prior to Crimea becoming part of Ukraine, or in other words, for the entire history of Crimea being under Ukrainian rule, the population of Crimea has been majority ethnic Russians, and thus it's disingenuous to use the historical persecution of the Crimean Tartars as an argument either for or against Kiev's future authority over Crimea.  The debate should focus entirely on the will of the people living there now, the will of the displaced Tartars, the rights Crimea should have had, if any, when the Soviet Union collapsed, and on the legitimacy and wisdom of the tranfer of Crimea from USSR to Ukraine SSR in 1954.
 
2014-03-04 02:09:29 PM

Shadi: native Tartars

They're not really "natives" of the region.  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mongol_Empire

Native is such a BS word anyways.


No, it's really not.  That's like saying "tall" is a "BS word" because most people are shorter than 2 meters.  They're "native" if there were there before anyone else.  They're certainly more native than the Russians.
 
2014-03-04 02:14:07 PM

Amish Tech Support: Weatherkiss: Amish Tech Support: That's why you don't choose something stupid for your civilizations name. Tartar screams invade me. You need something badass sounding, like Klingon or Furian.

How did that turn out for the Furians?

Well they did get hunted to near extinction by the Necromongers. But the Russians never invaded them. So they have that going for them, which is nice.


I dread the day when the Rusomongers begin their invasion.
 
2014-03-04 03:26:38 PM

johnny_vegas: space1999: My father is a Crimean Tatar who fled with his family 70 years ago when the Russians came.

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Look, I know sometimes you gotta spank the monkey but how about we aim that somewhere beside the tater tots next time, okay? That's just unsanitary.
 
2014-03-04 06:36:35 PM
Stalin exiled the Crimean Tatars from Crimea permanently as punishment for being Nazi supporters during WWII.

Before that, in the 19th century, the Tatars ran the largest slavery operation outside Africa, kidnapping and enslaving 2 million Russians for sale to the Ottoman Empire.

Fark 'em. There are far too many good people suffering every day for me to care about this nasty little tribe. Suits me just fine if Russia throws them out again after they've taken Crimea over.
 
2014-03-04 08:23:59 PM

Beowoolfie: Stalin exiled the Crimean Tatars from Crimea permanently as punishment for being Nazi supporters during WWII.


Actually, that's a story that Stalin made up (or at least, grossly exaggerated -- there were Nazi collaborators in every country the Germans invaded) to ensure the hostility of the remaining/imported population of Crimea and to justify the deportation and genocide.

But hey, if it helps you remain detached from an authentic emotional response to reality, you go with that story.
 
2014-03-04 08:40:25 PM

czetie: Beowoolfie: Stalin exiled the Crimean Tatars from Crimea permanently as punishment for being Nazi supporters during WWII.

Actually, that's a story that Stalin made up (or at least, grossly exaggerated -- there were Nazi collaborators in every country the Germans invaded) to ensure the hostility of the remaining/imported population of Crimea and to justify the deportation and genocide.

But hey, if it helps you remain detached from an authentic emotional response to reality, you go with that story.


This. Stalin wasn't exactly known for the accuracy of statements he made about people who pissed him off.
 
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2014-03-04 08:55:46 PM

Shadi: native Tartars

They're not really "natives" of the region.  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mongol_Empire

Native is such a BS word anyways.


While I would normally be all about your semantic argument, any more than 500 years of ancestry and you should be able to call yourself "native."  The Mongols first showed up in the region nearly 800 years ago and the Tatars have been there ever since.
 
2014-03-04 09:15:05 PM

czetie: Well there might be some ethnic cleansing of the native Tartars again in Crimea if Russia sticks around

FTF those unfamiliar with 20th century Russian history.

(Short version: the reason Crimea has a large Russian-speaking population in the first place is because Stalin deported 200,000 Crimeans in 1944 -- half of them died in the first year -- and gave their jobs and properties to imported Russians.)


Kind of like how Americans and Canadians seized the property of ethnic Japanese American/Canadian citizens and forcibly placed them all into internment camps during WWII?
Yeah, stfu. Goddamn hypocrites.
 
2014-03-05 05:45:40 AM
You all realize that Tartars are from a violent stock and are generally Muslims with "tendencies"

Putin has a thing for violent Muslims blowing things up. At some level one should analyze how much rubbish these Tartar Muslims have done to piss off the Russians.
 
2014-03-05 06:02:15 AM

Cold_Sassy: Miracle Whip isn't dressing. Can't believe it is still on grocery store shelves.


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