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(The New York Times)   Germany will be crucial in ending Russian invasion of Ukraine. Yeah, like that worked so well the last time   ( divider line
    More: Followup, Ukraine, Russians, Vladimir Putin, Peterson Institute for International Economics, German Chancellor, invasions, Russian President, Mikhail Khodorkovsky  
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2014-03-04 01:26:52 PM  
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hardinparamedic: The Germans were doing pretty well until Hitler decided to order them to fight General Winter.

Had Hitler stayed out of WWII and let his Generals manage things, the world might look quite differently today. Luckily for us, we had a micromanaging egotistical moron in charge of Nazi Germany.

Yep, but there are lot of what-if's.  What if Hitler hadn't allied with Mussolini, and then had to delay Barbarossa for six weeks to help Italy conquer Yugoslavia (because Italy couldn't do it by themselves).  That's six more weeks of campaigning weather the Germans would have had.

What if Goering didn't keep changing his mind about the goals of the Battle of Britain.  The Luftwaffe came very close to knocking the UK out of the war, which would have allowed Germany to focus on the USSR.

Yeah, Germany lost, but everybody seems to forget just how farking close they came to winning, and they were essentially fighting the whole world.
2014-03-04 08:32:40 AM  
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cgraves67: vygramul: TheVeryDeadIanMartin: Wasn't Ukraine the easy bit for them?

In '41. It got substantially less easy for all involved after that.

In fact, March of '41. This is all happening on the 73rd anniversary of Crimea being overrun by Nazi Germany.

I think you mean 1942; the Germans didn't invade the Soviet Union at all until June of 1941.
2014-03-04 08:03:34 AM  
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dready zim: Rhino_man: Animatronik: Dahnkster: Hey, no harm, no foul. I apologize for all my shortcomings in advance.

You should definitely apologize, because this is FARK, where rape jokes are funny but Obama jokes are not, if you're a lefty Farmer.

And we have another Republican talking about rape, completely unprompted.

7:45 AM is a bit early to be drinking.

All they think of is rape, rape, children, black people, terrorists, rape and rape. Oh, and guns. Also Obama is black, did you know?

When they aren`t thinking about rape of people, they like to think about rape of countries, populations, and businesses.

Nice othering.
2014-03-04 08:00:57 AM  
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The Muthaship: It would be fun to see all the old Soviet States get together and smite the Russians over this.

As long as we stay out of it.....

Wait a goddamned minute!

What do you think old Soviet States are??!! Military powerhouse? We are tiny states with miniscule armies, we pay our NATO dues and lick your balls precisely to have some resemblance of protection from Russia, however unlikely it is we'll ever get it if shiat will hit the fan.

You know what are the engagement plans of Latvian army (my country) in case of _any_ conflict with Russia? Delay Russian troops for 3 hours, while everyone who is in his right mind is running towards Polish border from a standing start. I actually have my Emergency Escape Kit and have some offshore accounts with tiny money for the last 20 years, precisely for that occasion.

Oh, and I'm not stopping in Poland. New Zealand is wonderful this time of the year, or so I've read.

Everyone also has a supply of Russian/Soviet flags/ribbons, to wave towards incoming Russian troops, shouting "thanks for saving us from those imperialist pigs, Russian brothers! Hurray!" In case we are not fast enough for that dash to the Polish border.

So don't even think about this!
2014-03-04 07:41:46 AM  
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Dahnkster: Hey, no harm, no foul. I apologize for all my shortcomings in advance.

You should definitely apologize, because this is FARK, where rape jokes are funny but Obama jokes are not, if you're a lefty Farmer.
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