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(The Daily Caller)   News: DC has perhaps nation's largest number of "green energy buildings." Fark: they use more energy than buildings which did NOT get certification   (dailycaller.com) divider line 11
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2014-03-04 07:25:48 AM
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Logically it would make sense for the buildings which use the most energy to be converted to take advantage of modern efficiencies while buildings which use less energy would be lest cost efficient to update.

Since we are dealing with Daily Make Shiat Up here I am going to assume that logic never entered into the creation of the linked article.
2014-03-04 06:59:54 AM
2 votes:
I have been a little suspicious of just what LEED green certification means.

But a report from the Daily Caller and some right wing "environmental policy institute" report?

Yeah, right.
2014-03-04 01:29:51 PM
1 votes:

Destructor: Should the devil himself were to appear and make statements; would it be wise to discard it?


If the article is about a quote by the devil no.

If the devil says 8 out of 10 people love being stabbed with a fork, then I'm going to need to see his data before I post it. Then again I'm not a partisan hack like those and the daily caller.
2014-03-04 11:48:30 AM
1 votes:

Destructor: Trust, but verify. Its okay to be skeptical, very skeptical... But not necessarily out-of-the-box dismissive.


A good sentiment. I'm assuming that is directed at the Daily Caller, telling them to verify before posting such a poorly tested observation? And not to the people who know what daily caller is and know that it is a usless collection of partisan hacks.
2014-03-04 08:56:23 AM
1 votes:

Destructor: Here's something for you guys to consider who are quick to dismiss the article.

What right wing greedy money grubbing corporation wouldn't like to SAVE money by building a green building? That's the point, right? Use less energy both in heating and cooling? That's less money and more evil PROFIT$.

(Besides, from a technological point of view, they're just plain cool.)

So, if they're not as green as they say they are, that's actually news EVERYONE can use. If the right wing rag IS lying about it, how come someone like MSNBC doesn't get on the ball, and call them out. It would be a wonderful scandal, they'd sell lots of airtime and ad space. And it would be wonderful, too.

But, no, lets just ignore it because its evil right wing propaganda straight from the Koch bros or something...

*sigh*


But that would require companies to spend more capital today to make the repairs. Improving the electricity bill 4 quarters from now isn't going to help with investors. Plus If we admit any green benefits we'd be admitting that green technology is good and not a scam. If we do that people might want us to stop pollution or stop using so much oil.

By giving voice to people with bad models of testing we are still validating what they say, and with the number of outright lies coming from the conservatives they would have to dedicate their entire broadcast to slowly explaining the lies. Not to mention the fact that conservatives wouldn't believe it was a lie even though they were walked through step by step.
2014-03-04 08:47:14 AM
1 votes:

Destructor: What right wing greedy money grubbing corporation wouldn't like to SAVE money by building a green building?


The same conservatives who drive SUVs, fight against fuel efficiency standards, and work to maintain higher pollution emissions in vehicles and powerplants.
2014-03-04 08:32:21 AM
1 votes:
part of leed is also reusing recycled materials in construction and reducing construction waste. while these are good, they wouldn't influence operating energy consumption at all.
2014-03-04 08:31:27 AM
1 votes:
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What DC Green Energy might look like
2014-03-04 08:28:32 AM
1 votes:
Office buildings may use more energy than a warehouse of comparable size.

Who knew?
2014-03-04 08:12:51 AM
1 votes:
Yeah, stopped reading at "The free-market group." Send me a note when there is actual evidence.
2014-03-04 08:12:06 AM
1 votes:

TwoHead: Logically it would make sense for the buildings which use the most energy to be converted to take advantage of modern efficiencies while buildings which use less energy would be lest cost efficient to update.

Since we are dealing with Daily Make Shiat Up here I am going to assume that logic never entered into the creation of the linked article.


This is the first thing that came to mind other than outright fabrication.  The comparison should obviously be power consumption of the same building with and without the modern technology or at least compare it to a similar building with a similar function.
 
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