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(PJ Media)   That couple that found $10 million in gold coins? They might not lose 50% to the government. They might lose all of it to the government -- except for a 25% finder's reward   (pjmedia.com) divider line 246
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2014-03-04 08:39:12 AM  

rebelyell2006: dready zim: Rhino_man: racists

So, another thread where the only mention of racism is you. This is the only time the word racists is in the entire thread. No racism either.

You love the racism, don`t you.

rape, taxes, rape, racism, rape, terrorism, rape, black people, rape, children, rape, terrorists, rape, abortion, rape, obama.

Sarah Palin.

I bet you just came.

There are many threads on Fark. Do you think this one exists in a vacuum, or that the posters here do not have a reputation from their thousands of previous posts?


I like to think so.
 
2014-03-04 08:41:44 AM  

Sudlow: dready zim

"Your `history` only is as old as my grannies teeth. Show me something from the USA a thousand years old and I`ll be impressed. Then I`ll show you something thousands of years older than even your Jebus"

Old = historic? Or is your point that because there are more artifacts in the UK over 1000 years old some sort of moral superiority is attained?


Well done, you have spotted my fallacy. My argument of course makes no sense and is not a valid one.
 
2014-03-04 08:43:13 AM  

give me doughnuts: dukeblue219: Again, you cannot slowly convert $10MM worth of extremely valuable gold coins into cash without someone noticing. Furthermore, if you're someone barely getting by and suddenly start acquiring millions in cash the IRS is going to notice. You can't deposit the cash in a bank without drawing attention, and are you really going to buy a new car or new house with cash? Hell I'm not even positive you can sell gold coins worth thousands a piece for cash without generating a govt form somewhere.


Hide it in the insulation of your laundry room.
It was good enough for Walter White!


...and even after buying the car wash he ended up with piles of cash in a storage unit because he couldn't spend it or put it in a bank...

These people have a legal claim to the money, so there's no reason to incur the massive cost and risk of hiding/laundering it. Just cash it in, invest it wisely, and move on with your lives.

I would much rather have just $1MM in the bank than $10MM hidden in my attic, living every day terrified of a fire, robbery, or an IRS agent getting word of that guy cashing in lots of old gold for cash.
 
2014-03-04 08:43:38 AM  
Nobody has mentioned that my granny must have been wearing teeth at least a hundred years older than herself yet though.

If it were true I`d bet they were Waterloo teeth.
 
2014-03-04 08:44:20 AM  

Rhino_man: They're going to lose 75% of the $10 million that they didn't have before?

Crimea River.


Because we know what good the government (cough cough NSA cough) will be doing with all that money.
 
2014-03-04 08:45:02 AM  

HindiDiscoMonster: fedex.jpg

Just make sure to package it as a coin collection would be packaged first in case of inspection... send it right to the bank (whom you have made prior arrangements with).


Yeah, good luck with that.

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2014-03-04 08:45:09 AM  

dready zim: rebelyell2006: dready zim: rebelyell2006: dready zim: NEVER tell anyone you just found a load of gold.

Except me of course. I`ll buy it off you for a good price.

Melt it down. Then you just have a load of gold that cannot be traced back to an owner. Turn it into nuggets. Throw the gold onto the ground molten to make nuggets and say you found the nuggets like that to the guy who is buying it without any questions...

Once you have the cash in your hand and can afford a good lawyer THEN say "Look at MEEEEEEE! I`M AN ATTENTION WHORE!!!".

Destroying American history in the name of profit. How very Republican of you.

Your `history` only is as old as my grannies teeth. Show me something from the USA a thousand years old and I`ll be impressed. Then I`ll show you something thousands of years older than even your Jebus.

Also, your political bias is showing.

You do know that Native Americans have been here for thousands of years. And Norsemen showed up a thousand years ago.

And who is Jebus? Is he from the Judeo-Christian pantheon?

Of course I do. I just find it funny when the USA history is regarded as the only one or the only important one. Also when people allude to America existing before whenever (1492? C16? C18? IDK) America wasn`t in existence a thousand years ago so there cannot be any artifacts from America then.

Jebus is the guy the preachers bang on about. You know, the offspring of Yaltabaoth Saklas Samael, who is the corrupted bastard child of sophia. They are another version of Dionysus and others (Born of a Virgin on December 25th, Killed and Resurrected after Three Days)...

The character has been recycled in many religions, not just the judeo-christian one.


So you are referring to the Jesus character from the Christian mythology? Why didn't you just say that? People don't go around talking about Geus or Lochi or Buddma.
 
2014-03-04 08:45:13 AM  
Gold, real money, and you think the State is going to sit idly by?

The coup de grace will be when the State gives them worthless paper trash in return for their very real, never-been-worth-zero gold.
 
2014-03-04 08:46:07 AM  

dukeblue219: give me doughnuts: dukeblue219: Again, you cannot slowly convert $10MM worth of extremely valuable gold coins into cash without someone noticing. Furthermore, if you're someone barely getting by and suddenly start acquiring millions in cash the IRS is going to notice. You can't deposit the cash in a bank without drawing attention, and are you really going to buy a new car or new house with cash? Hell I'm not even positive you can sell gold coins worth thousands a piece for cash without generating a govt form somewhere.


Hide it in the insulation of your laundry room.
It was good enough for Walter White!

...and even after buying the car wash he ended up with piles of cash in a storage unit because he couldn't spend it or put it in a bank...

These people have a legal claim to the money, so there's no reason to incur the massive cost and risk of hiding/laundering it. Just cash it in, invest it wisely, and move on with your lives.

I would much rather have just $1MM in the bank than $10MM hidden in my attic, living every day terrified of a fire, robbery, or an IRS agent getting word of that guy cashing in lots of old gold for cash.


If you have 10M, why are you not in Rio or Thailand or somewhere they really don`t care as long as you spend it?

Turn it into jewels in a private sale to a gold coin collector, go to another country, retire.

There are many more options than `tell the government about something they may want to take from you`
 
2014-03-04 08:48:26 AM  
Why would they have to pay taxes if they get legal ownership of the coins?  It wasn't money from a wage, salary, or tip.  If it was a gift, the giver would have to pay gift tax.  Is there separate tax law just for found money?
 
2014-03-04 08:49:12 AM  

dready zim: Sudlow: dready zim

"Your `history` only is as old as my grannies teeth. Show me something from the USA a thousand years old and I`ll be impressed. Then I`ll show you something thousands of years older than even your Jebus"

Old = historic? Or is your point that because there are more artifacts in the UK over 1000 years old some sort of moral superiority is attained?

Well done, you have spotted my fallacy. My argument of course makes no sense and is not a valid one.


Of course it isn't. If you limit historical boundaries to existing governmental structures you would wipe out the Roman Empire. No more pre-1945 Germany. The Soviet Union would not exist. America would by your definition have more history that Europe, especially considering how there are still some Native American nations still in existence, and their history goes back thousands of years.
 
2014-03-04 08:50:22 AM  

HindiDiscoMonster: Find treasure.

Step 1: move said treasure out of USA to a country known for protecting it's banking customers (you can afford it now)
Step 2: move your family and assets out of the USA to a country where you can live like emperors till the day you die (that are unlikely to cooperate with US authorities
Step 3: obtain citizenship in new country, and renounce US citizenship
Step 4: with the loudest voice you can muster (no posting on the net) say:

[static.planetminecraft.com image 324x324]

Step 5: Enjoy your new life and fortune.


Then they'll just drone you & yours.
 
2014-03-04 08:51:07 AM  

rebelyell2006: dready zim: rebelyell2006: dready zim: rebelyell2006: dready zim: NEVER tell anyone you just found a load of gold.

Except me of course. I`ll buy it off you for a good price.

Melt it down. Then you just have a load of gold that cannot be traced back to an owner. Turn it into nuggets. Throw the gold onto the ground molten to make nuggets and say you found the nuggets like that to the guy who is buying it without any questions...

Once you have the cash in your hand and can afford a good lawyer THEN say "Look at MEEEEEEE! I`M AN ATTENTION WHORE!!!".

Destroying American history in the name of profit. How very Republican of you.

Your `history` only is as old as my grannies teeth. Show me something from the USA a thousand years old and I`ll be impressed. Then I`ll show you something thousands of years older than even your Jebus.

Also, your political bias is showing.

You do know that Native Americans have been here for thousands of years. And Norsemen showed up a thousand years ago.

And who is Jebus? Is he from the Judeo-Christian pantheon?

Of course I do. I just find it funny when the USA history is regarded as the only one or the only important one. Also when people allude to America existing before whenever (1492? C16? C18? IDK) America wasn`t in existence a thousand years ago so there cannot be any artifacts from America then.

Jebus is the guy the preachers bang on about. You know, the offspring of Yaltabaoth Saklas Samael, who is the corrupted bastard child of sophia. They are another version of Dionysus and others (Born of a Virgin on December 25th, Killed and Resurrected after Three Days)...

The character has been recycled in many religions, not just the judeo-christian one.

So you are referring to the Jesus character from the Christian mythology? Why didn't you just say that? People don't go around talking about Geus or Lochi or Buddma.


No, but Jebus is widely used.

You seem a very literal person and deliberately obtuse.

Welcome to FARK. We like your type around here. You`re fun to play with.

(Yeah 7 years, I know)`
 
2014-03-04 08:51:18 AM  
An article written purely on speculation has drawn comparisons to government handouts to illegal immigrants and Nazis. The comments are pure gold. I need to screencap all that mess
 
2014-03-04 08:51:56 AM  

threadjackistan: Except the 25% finders fee is probably going to be far more than the melt value of the entire hordehoard.


A thought missed by most, and while I would fail miserably making the legal argument, here's my thoughts:
The government can argue that they are due $30,000 for their missing property.
Nobody says it has to be that particular set of coins.
When the coins were lost, their value was only face value.
The government could claim the gold has value and instead request payment in the loss of gold.
Again, the loss of gold as priced then or now? Okay, equal amount (melt value).

The value in the hoard is in the collector's value.
Does the government plan to argue that the bank was storing coin in banks in 1900 in order for the collector's value to increase?

So, if the coins are worth in sale $10million, the government cannot value the coins (they want back and as mentioned have to prove) at the price worth to the finders.

The flip side argument (govt case) would state they want their actual coins back, no matter the value.
Any finders fee would be a percentage of the melt value of the metal.
 
2014-03-04 08:55:40 AM  
They need to pay their fair share. That is the liberal thought process, right? How dare they find gold when some people only have an Xbox and a couch?
 
2014-03-04 08:56:51 AM  

htomc: Rhino_man: They're going to lose 75% of the $10 million that they didn't have before?

Crimea River.

Because we know what good the government (cough cough NSA cough) will be doing with all that money.


Yeah, fark roads, bridges, rails, medical care for the poor and elderly, pensions, the military and countless other things that the government does.  I DON'T LIKE THIS ONE THING, SO TAXES ARE EVIL!
 
2014-03-04 08:57:22 AM  

dready zim: rebelyell2006: dready zim: rebelyell2006: dready zim: rebelyell2006: dready zim: NEVER tell anyone you just found a load of gold.

Except me of course. I`ll buy it off you for a good price.

Melt it down. Then you just have a load of gold that cannot be traced back to an owner. Turn it into nuggets. Throw the gold onto the ground molten to make nuggets and say you found the nuggets like that to the guy who is buying it without any questions...

Once you have the cash in your hand and can afford a good lawyer THEN say "Look at MEEEEEEE! I`M AN ATTENTION WHORE!!!".

Destroying American history in the name of profit. How very Republican of you.

Your `history` only is as old as my grannies teeth. Show me something from the USA a thousand years old and I`ll be impressed. Then I`ll show you something thousands of years older than even your Jebus.

Also, your political bias is showing.

You do know that Native Americans have been here for thousands of years. And Norsemen showed up a thousand years ago.

And who is Jebus? Is he from the Judeo-Christian pantheon?

Of course I do. I just find it funny when the USA history is regarded as the only one or the only important one. Also when people allude to America existing before whenever (1492? C16? C18? IDK) America wasn`t in existence a thousand years ago so there cannot be any artifacts from America then.

Jebus is the guy the preachers bang on about. You know, the offspring of Yaltabaoth Saklas Samael, who is the corrupted bastard child of sophia. They are another version of Dionysus and others (Born of a Virgin on December 25th, Killed and Resurrected after Three Days)...

The character has been recycled in many religions, not just the judeo-christian one.

So you are referring to the Jesus character from the Christian mythology? Why didn't you just say that? People don't go around talking about Geus or Lochi or Buddma.

No, but Jebus is widely used.

You seem a very literal person and deliberately obtuse.

Welcome to FARK. We like your type around here. You`re fun to play with.

(Yeah 7 years, I know)`


Not obtuse, just dyslexic. Misspellings throw me off.
 
2014-03-04 08:58:09 AM  

Thunderpipes: They need to pay their fair share. That is the liberal thought process, right? How dare they find gold when some people only have an Xbox and a couch?


So you think that returning stolen property to the original owner is a liberal plot to... do something... because reasons and furthermore and such as.

Got it.
 
2014-03-04 08:58:41 AM  
I mean, I don't see an issue here.  They didn't build those gold coins, somebody else did that.
 
2014-03-04 08:59:08 AM  

HooskerDoo: Those coins are so rare I doubt that one could sell them at all without drawing attention.


Just the thought of the Secret Service reading that one of these is on the market, would be enough reason to have just melted the coins down into nice blobs of untraceable money. ...maybe add a little other metals to completely throw them off the scent... crucible explodes in your face - comedy gold.
 
2014-03-04 09:00:15 AM  

Rhino_man: Thunderpipes: They need to pay their fair share. That is the liberal thought process, right? How dare they find gold when some people only have an Xbox and a couch?

So you think that returning stolen property to the original owner is a liberal plot to... do something... because reasons and furthermore and such as.

Got it.


Don't waste your bandwidth. He never responds.
 
2014-03-04 09:01:59 AM  
Wouldn't these stolen gold coins have been written off back when they were stolen by the government as a loss? At that point aren't they now the property of whoever found them?

Just like when an owner reports a stolen car and the insurance pays them if the car is found it goes to the insurance company and not back to the owners (unless it's super rare).

So if they wrote this off which I'm sure they did the government no longer owns them.
 
2014-03-04 09:02:29 AM  
How long does one have to claim stolen property? If I remember correctly Elizabeth Taylor had took a case to the supreme court over something like this. Except it was a looted Van Gogh.
 
2014-03-04 09:02:36 AM  

GoldSpider: Let's see if thread confirms some of our cherished political stereotypes, such as which party takes the side of the "little guy."


Are you talking about the "little guy" that originally stole these coins?  Who would take a criminals side?
 
2014-03-04 09:05:49 AM  

rebelyell2006: Rhino_man: Thunderpipes: They need to pay their fair share. That is the liberal thought process, right? How dare they find gold when some people only have an Xbox and a couch?

So you think that returning stolen property to the original owner is a liberal plot to... do something... because reasons and furthermore and such as.

Got it.

Don't waste your bandwidth. He never responds.


Has been gnashing his dumb little teeth about liberals for years, though. Gotta admire his dedication.
 
2014-03-04 09:06:05 AM  

Rhino_man: Thunderpipes: They need to pay their fair share. That is the liberal thought process, right? How dare they find gold when some people only have an Xbox and a couch?

So you think that returning stolen property to the original owner is a liberal plot to... do something... because reasons and furthermore and such as.

Got it.


The original owners are long dead. Or is treating banks as people a good thing now?

/don't bother answering, we all know "It's Okay When WE Do It!"
 
2014-03-04 09:06:55 AM  

trappedspirit: GoldSpider: Let's see if thread confirms some of our cherished political stereotypes, such as which party takes the side of the "little guy."

Are you talking about the "little guy" that originally stole these coins?  Who would take a criminals side?


I'd wager the thieves are long dead by now.
 
2014-03-04 09:08:17 AM  

Tatterdemalian: Rhino_man: Thunderpipes: They need to pay their fair share. That is the liberal thought process, right? How dare they find gold when some people only have an Xbox and a couch?

So you think that returning stolen property to the original owner is a liberal plot to... do something... because reasons and furthermore and such as.

Got it.

The original owners are long dead. Or is treating banks as people a good thing now?

/don't bother answering, we all know "It's Okay When WE Do It!"


Oh look, you've come into yet another thread to be completely wrong.  It was stolen directly from the Mint, which is an agency of the United States Government.  I can assure you that the United States Government is not dead, therefore the coins belong to it.
 
2014-03-04 09:11:04 AM  

FnkyTwn: Fox is gonna have a sad.


Is confiscation of your goldline coins next?

/Just asking questions.
//Probably the best thing that could happen before the customers realized that there is only $10 worth of gold in the 'rare coins' they bought for $100.
 
2014-03-04 09:12:19 AM  

HindiDiscoMonster: Cybernetic: The longer I live, the more I learn the value of keeping my mouth shut.

That said, a 25% finder's reward is still $2.5 million, which isn't bad considering all that they did was stumble across some old cans while they were walking their dogs.

it only hurts a little if they rape rape you a little?


$2.5 Million isn't a bad payday for an unemployed whore.
 
2014-03-04 09:12:21 AM  
The article is quite reasonable.  The comments are 24 karat derp.
 
2014-03-04 09:13:49 AM  
Next time, keep your big yapper shut.
 
2014-03-04 09:15:13 AM  
img.photobucket.com
 
2014-03-04 09:17:26 AM  

HindiDiscoMonster: 75% Tax in a system that is supposed to max out at 40%... so how are they not being rape raped again?


Oh they got shafted, no doubt about it. But at the end of the day they might walk away with $2.5 million they never had before, plus a little more wisdom.

Really that's just the difference between owning a luxury yacht and not owning one. Like this one.
 
2014-03-04 09:18:41 AM  

Pants full of macaroni!!: [img.photobucket.com image 800x533]


If it's malevolent AND incompetent, then shouldn't it be accidentally doing good things for the people?  You might want to reevaluate the logical consistency of that image and try again, because right now you're just looking like an ass.
 
2014-03-04 09:22:55 AM  
FTA:
A story that describes a gold heist from the San Francisco Mint at the turn of the century could explain the source of the gold coins worth $10 million that were found last month in California's Mother Lode country.

Government: Yeah, that gold might be ours, so we're just gonna drop by and pick up it in case it is. And if later, it turns out that it wasn't our gold, well the country really thanks you. We really needed 1 more Abrams tank. Will give you a finder's fee, but we gotta tax half that money we give you. It's only fair, you know?
 
2014-03-04 09:23:51 AM  

TerminalEchoes: Satanic_Hamster: Don't click on derp cites.

Like Salon, MSNBC, Think Progress, NPR, and Mother Jones? I don't.


WAT??!!
 
2014-03-04 09:26:30 AM  
They should refer to the "Finders Keepers" vs "Losers Weepers" case of 1952.
 
2014-03-04 09:30:54 AM  
The same thing happened to the heirs of a coin collector who had some stolen never-circulated US gold coins.

http://www.shtfplan.com/headline-news/update-on-80-million-in-seized -g old-coins-judge-rules-they-belong-to-the-u-s-government_09072012
 
2014-03-04 09:35:29 AM  
I'm wondering... what WOULD the melt value of that be?  Not 10M for sure, but what is the weight of all that coin?
 
2014-03-04 09:36:05 AM  

trappedspirit:  Who would take a criminals side?


Half of Farkers religiously take the government's side in everything.
 
2014-03-04 09:37:12 AM  

Rhino_man: If it's malevolent AND incompetent, then shouldn't it be accidentally doing good things for the people?  You might want to reevaluate the logical consistency of that image and try again, because right now you're just looking like an ass.


Logical consistency hasn't been a hallmark of the left since they pretended Dubya was both an evil criminal mastermind and a complete idiot.

/smart enough to trick Democrats into voting for his war
//too stupid to plant WMDs in Iraq for the troops to find
///maybe he was just a human being acting to protect the USA with the information he had
 
2014-03-04 09:37:27 AM  

dukeblue219: SpectroBoy: Life_is_a_carnivore: Or they could have laid low and cashed them in one at a time but they had to be attention whores.

Duh.

This.

My very first thought when the story came out was that they were asking for trouble or taxes, or both.

Best bet would be to sell them one at a time at different coin/gold shops.

Again, you cannot slowly convert $10MM worth of extremely valuable gold coins into cash without someone noticing. Furthermore, if you're someone barely getting by and suddenly start acquiring millions in cash the IRS is going to notice. You can't deposit the cash in a bank without drawing attention, and are you really going to buy a new car or new house with cash? Hell I'm not even positive you can sell gold coins worth thousands a piece for cash without generating a govt form somewhere.

The only option would be to sell them so slowly that nobody notices which kind of defeats the purpose of finding a fortune. Even taking a 75% loss and then investing the remainder would be way more practical.




Selling even on coin would bring the law knocking. Don't think so? Look up the story of 1933 double eagle.
 
2014-03-04 09:38:50 AM  

Rhino_man: Nuclear Monk: Rhino_man: Harlow_B_Ashur: Write the Feds a check for $28,000 and be done with it.

And if they're smart, they'll hire a lawyer that will be able to argue exactly that.  $30,000 in currency was stolen.  $30,000 in currency was returned.

Hell, they could even return it  adjusted for inflation and only have to cut a check for about $900k

That's what I was just calculating too.  Seems like that would be a reasonable argument to make.

To which, I'm sure, the Government would argue that the physical stolen property itself is what must be returned.  The finder's lawyer would surely then argue that the actual currency stolen only needs to be held by the government when used as evidence in a criminal trial against the thief, and since the thief is CLEARLY dead, a return of equivalent face value after inflation should suffice.

It's murky on both sides, and it would depend on the judge if it came to that... but I'm sure most judges would be sympathetic to the finders and agree to the $900k figure.


Might be worth it to just take the 2.5 M in finder's fee rather than let the lawyers have eleventy billion in legal fees. Seems like legal fees could chew up a significant part of 10 M pretty easily.
 
2014-03-04 09:40:06 AM  

HindiDiscoMonster: Find treasure.

Step 1: move said treasure out of USA to a country known for protecting it's banking customers (you can afford it now)
Step 2: move your family and assets out of the USA to a country where you can live like emperors till the day you die (that are unlikely to cooperate with US authorities
Step 3: obtain citizenship in new country, and renounce US citizenship
Step 4: with the loudest voice you can muster (no posting on the net) say:



Step 5: Enjoy your new life and fortune.


There are a lot of people in this thread that seem to think it's easy to either smuggle $10 million on hold out of the country or find a black market buyer fr $10 million in gold.
 
2014-03-04 09:40:42 AM  

MrBeetle: I'm wondering... what WOULD the melt value of that be?  Not 10M for sure, but what is the weight of all that coin?


Looked it up... about 1350 $20 gold coins, which I believe are just under an oz each...

1300 oz x $1300/oz = 1.7M

Should have melted them down...
 
2014-03-04 09:42:02 AM  

colinspooky: Subbs sounds vaguely surprised. I am sure the coins did not belong to the couple, so why would the real owner simply accept the loss after they have been recovered. Possession really does not mean ownership, no matter how often the cliche is trotted out


When the real owner cannot be identified, possession does mean ownership, and in the case of most abandoned money, that's the case. Sadly for them, the real owner was just identified, and still exists.

Though maybe they could strike a deal to give the government the face value plus interest, while allowing them to capitalize on the numismatic value of the hoard. It gets the coins to collectors, gets the couple some income (which they'll pay taxes on!) and the government is made whole.
 
2014-03-04 09:42:05 AM  

Rhino_man: HMS_Blinkin: Marmilman: Wow. The comments in that article are weapons grade retarded.

It's pj media, what did you expect?

Certainly not this:
"Every day the Federal Government steals money from those working and gives it to those who don't and even now they are asking illegal Democrats in Mexico to jump the fence and join in the rape of the United States Cornucopia for free, only their new votes are wanted. It's getting time to water the tree of liberty. "

Or how about more greatest hits from Obama's time machine?
"What if I don't believe the Federal Government? They're making this up, to try to swindle these poor saps who were dumb enough to brag about it. First, they had to pay taxes on material they found on the property they bought, which should at most be capital gains. Now, suddenly the government LOST the money! "

Or whatever the fark this is:
"Anyone who comes into a genuine windfall without the knowledge of the government, and who publicizes it is a living, breathing example of Darwinism in action. This is not our government. It is not our friend. It is not under the control of citizens. It is not held to either the law or the Constitution. If you have any wealth, tangible goods the government might take an interest in, or are not connected with those in power and paying guanxi or blat [блат]; anything you have that you do not want to be confiscated needs to be hidden away and/or removed to another part of the world where the US government cannot reach it. Think a Chinese peasant reacting when there are Mongol horses stirring up dust on the horizon. Think a Jew in Europe during the pogroms."

/and all that was from just the first page.


[1] Yes this article is a perfect example of the government stealing from those working to randomly find stolen goods on their property. Of course this post ends with the standard threat to kill those who disagree with him.
[2] We see now that an idiot's definition of "capital gains" is "anything at all other than a paycheck someone gets for actual work".
[3] I'm sure this person considers himself a patriot.
 
2014-03-04 09:42:50 AM  

Rhino_man: Pants full of macaroni!!: [img.photobucket.com image 800x533]

If it's malevolent AND incompetent, then shouldn't it be accidentally doing good things for the people?  You might want to reevaluate the logical consistency of that image and try again, because right now you're just looking like an ass.


It does. It's wonderful if you are a businessman looking to make a cartel or gain market share through favorable regulation, if you are a banker who wishes to keep your profit and offload your losses, if you are a member of the military-industrial complex that seeks to sell a war, if you are an academic whose 'skills' are unmarketable that needs legitimacy, if you are power-hungry soul that wishes to indulge the libido dominandi, the government is your only avenue. For these people, government is good, great, grand.
 
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