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2014-03-03 04:41:38 PM  
My doctor is in worse shape than I am.  And I'm just barely smart enough to know that cheetos aren't that good for you.
 
2014-03-03 05:14:50 PM  
If anyone should be telling you to put the fork down, it's your doctor.
 
2014-03-03 05:30:15 PM  
Isn't the truth an absolute defense against claims of slander or libel?
 
2014-03-03 05:42:38 PM  
The doctor took an oath to do no harm, not to enable Johnny McPorkrind to stay the course.
 
2014-03-03 06:05:40 PM  
They'd certainly hate my doctor.  When I quit smoking I gained 45 pounds in five farking months.  I was at my yearly visit and he pointed out that I had gained a lot of weight, and I told him yeah, but I quit smoking.  He asked me if I would expect congratulations for kicking a cocaine habit only to take up heroin.

Then he called me fat.  Not obese or overweight.  "You're fat, you know that, don't you?  If you get too big smoking might actually be better for you."  So it took me a year, but I lost the weight.
 
2014-03-03 06:12:05 PM  
Huh. See, I visited the doctor a few days ago, and was told to lose some weight. My conclusion was that I should probably eat better instead of whining about it.
 
2014-03-03 06:12:50 PM  
Some doctors tried to tell me that huffing paint wasn't good for me. Stupid doctors. What do they know!
 
2014-03-03 06:14:29 PM  

enry: My doctor is in worse shape than I am.  And I'm just barely smart enough to know that cheetos aren't that good for you.


My doctor is also fatter than I am, but about every 4th visit he tells me I need to exercise more. He is right, I am a fat, lazy bastard.
 
2014-03-03 06:15:19 PM  
How dare they try and save their patients lives!  Bastards.

And I'm saying that as someone who needs to lose around 50 lbs...
 
2014-03-03 06:15:46 PM  
Maybe if you were not so fat, you would not be shamed. Quit bawling about being fat and picked on.

Your doctor just might have some research to go on why being fat is not healthy, just a wild guess....
 
2014-03-03 06:15:51 PM  

enry: My doctor is in worse shape than I am.  And I'm just barely smart enough to know that cheetos aren't that good for you.


My doctor is a *very* in shape MILFY-type that managed to climb Denali (Mt. McKinley) a couple of years ago.  I actually look forward to going to the doctor.**

**/until the farkin needles make an appearance...
 
2014-03-03 06:16:28 PM  
It's my doctor's job to tell me I'm fat. I need him to tell me I'm fat because how I'm treating my body is not working out for me. If I feel shame, that's on me. Pointing out the obvious is not the same as shaming.

"Fat shaming" occurs when people tell thin people that they're not thin enough. Get it right.
 
2014-03-03 06:16:42 PM  
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2014-03-03 06:16:45 PM  
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omnipal doesn't lie
 
2014-03-03 06:19:43 PM  
Thank God someone finally wrote about this.  My doctor's been cholesterol-shaming me for years.
 
2014-03-03 06:20:20 PM  

Elegy: [i.imgur.com image 658x459]


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2014-03-03 06:21:06 PM  

Elegy: [i.imgur.com image 658x459]


What the hell is that fat cow talking about?
 
2014-03-03 06:22:51 PM  
My doctor had the immitigable gall to accuse me of having the physical conditioning of a ninety-year-old man.  So what if I can't walk up a flight of stairs without wheezing, so what if I couldn't run even if I'm being chased by a bear?  It's not my fault the only time I ever get up from the couch or move faster than a slow shuffle is when I need more beer.  It's just nature.
 
2014-03-03 06:24:29 PM  
My doctor keeps telling me to stop drinking. Even I know you can die if you stop drinking.
 
2014-03-03 06:25:15 PM  

Ow! That was my feelings!: Elegy: [i.imgur.com image 658x459]

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You fat-shamer. Take your thing privilege somewhere else.

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2014-03-03 06:25:56 PM  

Di Atribe: It's my doctor's job to tell me I'm fat. I need him to tell me I'm fat because how I'm treating my body is not working out for me. If I feel shame, that's on me. Pointing out the obvious is not the same as shaming.


If it's so obvious why do you need your doctor to tell you you are fat instead of simply noticing it yourself? Heck, I'll tell you that you are fat for half the price. Some people will do it for free, but they are not true professionals.
 
2014-03-03 06:26:52 PM  
People really miss the point on this. No one is pissing and moaning because the doctor called them fat, but because the doctor focuses on the fat to the exclusion of other problems. If a fat person and a thin person both go to the doctor with the same complaint, the thin person gets better treatment because if the doctor can blame the fat, the doctor will blame the fat. With the thin person, the doctor looks for other causes.  This is a well documented bias. You have this bias, too. Imagine the following symptoms assigned to a fat person and a thin person. Knee pain. Sleep disturbance. Chest pain. Shortness of breath. Don't you want to automatically tell the fat person to lose weight for any of those symptoms? But what do you say to the thin person? (Hint: "We better runs some tests.")
 
2014-03-03 06:27:26 PM  
Something to help clear the air a bit.

/I suspect the article writer is part of group two.
 
2014-03-03 06:27:34 PM  
I'm fatter than all of you, and I never get the fat speech. I think my doctors have just given up.

So, clearly, TRY HARDER.
 
2014-03-03 06:28:17 PM  

Elegy: Ow! That was my feelings!: Elegy: [i.imgur.com image 658x459]

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You fat-shamer. Take your thing privilege somewhere else.


Holy Crap.  Well I guess its a good thing that author isn't bitter or anything...
 
2014-03-03 06:28:32 PM  

Elegy: [i.imgur.com image 658x459]


Huh.
Well, if privilege can never earned then I guess there is not actually any such thing as thin privilege.
And by extension, no moral obligation for fat acceptance.
 
2014-03-03 06:28:35 PM  
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2014-03-03 06:30:05 PM  
I avoid doctors like the plague, but when I HAVE to go...I farkin listen to them...
2 years ago or so I developed horrible intestinal disease...pretty much Brock Lesnar style.
Was told that, at 42 years old, my all meat-no/veggie lifestyle had run it's course and was now hurting me.
That, and being 50 pounds overweight...never working out and eating fast food like it was a religion.
Here I sit 2 years later...50 pounds lighter and now, somewhat addicted to working out...
And if I may add...slightly shredded now! And eating all kinds of salads and veggies...meat too, of course...but no where near as much of it as before.
My wife farkin loves my physical change...and was inspired to lose 25 pounds of her own...AND DID!
Now I'm awesome looking and banging a skinny wife!
LISTEN TO YOUR DOCTORS, FATTIES!!!
 
2014-03-03 06:30:30 PM  
My doctor is conserned about my weight. However  seeing as the EKG, Heart Rate, Blood pressure, and blood tests all come back nominal he's not that pushy.
/BP is higher then is should be for a 22  year old but I think that's mostly the salt I get from the American diet.
//He's more focused on getting my depression under control.
 
2014-03-03 06:31:40 PM  
Oh...and I declined the surgery and went with a change in diet and heavy steroids (only to combat the illness!!!) and antibiotics...
After a month and a half of medicine, all symptoms stopped and have gone away...hopefully, forever!
 
2014-03-03 06:32:52 PM  
I wouldn't make a good doctor due to my bluntness. I would imagine the conversation would go something like this.

Dr, why do my ankles and legs hurt all the time, and its hard for me to walk 20 feet without wheezing for my breath and my ass smells like bad cat food and old maxi pads?

Hmm...lets see. You weigh 600 pounds. You are bigger around than you are tall. Smaller women orbit around you like moons, and your blood type is ragu. You are fat, you are grossly fat, and to be honest, if it wasn't for the epic cash i get from these visits, there is no way i would continue to pry apart your labia that looks like a half baked ham and cheese sammich with lots of mayo and crusted hair and dingleberries. Seriously, its like pushing my hand into a ten gallon hat full of warm gone south of cheese mayonnaise. If i wasn't getting a bj under the exam table by the nurse, i would bolt out of the room screaming and gouge out my eyes with a scalpel. Stop farking eating everything in sight, try moving your body further than the dollar store for twinkies, ho hos, and devil dogs. Seriously, if you got any fatter, i would have to hire help to get your ass on the table. Lose....weight....or you will die.


/too much? subtle?
 
2014-03-03 06:33:23 PM  

spinner880: No one is pissing and moaning because the doctor called them fat, but because the doctor focuses on the fat to the exclusion of other problems.


Not according to the anecdotes in TFA.  I'm not saying what you described doesn't happen, just that's not what we are talking about here.
 
2014-03-03 06:34:15 PM  
These type of sensitive Sallies make me just roll my eyes in disgust. If you come to me with an infection, you expect me to treat it. If you come to me with stomach cancer, you expect it to be treated. Obesity is an epidemic in America. It is the #1 preventable cause of death, surpassing cigarettes. If you're in such a rush to the grave that your tender feelings can't handle the truth that your practitioner is obligated to convey by any and every sense of ethics and professionalism, then sit in your house and keep eating until your heart explodes. Avoid all people, because I guarantee they're as repulsed as your physician, you're physician is just kinder and more professional.
 
2014-03-03 06:34:15 PM  

Nidiot: Di Atribe: It's my doctor's job to tell me I'm fat. I need him to tell me I'm fat because how I'm treating my body is not working out for me. If I feel shame, that's on me. Pointing out the obvious is not the same as shaming.

If it's so obvious why do you need your doctor to tell you you are fat instead of simply noticing it yourself? Heck, I'll tell you that you are fat for half the price. Some people will do it for free, but they are not true professionals.


I never said I needed my doctor to tell me in order for me to know. Of course I already know. When my doctor tells me that I need to lose weight, it reinforces that I need to lose weight for my health instead of just vanity. It reinforces that other people notice that I'm fat & it's backed up by this here doctor & a fancy chart based on research & science & all kinds of math.

I guess saying "I need my doctor to tell me" wasn't the best way to phrase it. How about "It's my doctor's job to tell me."
 
2014-03-03 06:34:22 PM  
I'm fat. If someone says I'm fat, my reaction is to agree. I am also tall. It does not upset me when people say that I am tall. People stating the observably obvious has never bothered me.

On the other hand, people don't need to be a-holes about it. Except doctors. Doctors are allowed to be a-holes about it.
 
2014-03-03 06:34:34 PM  
My doctor is concerned about my masterbation habit, mostly in the waiting room though.
 
2014-03-03 06:36:16 PM  
I swear, every other week at least I get another one of these "health at any size/fat shaming is evil" articles on my Facebook feed. I'm about ready to start blocking people.
 
2014-03-03 06:36:28 PM  

spinner880: People really miss the point on this. No one is pissing and moaning because the doctor called them fat, but because the doctor focuses on the fat to the exclusion of other problems. If a fat person and a thin person both go to the doctor with the same complaint, the thin person gets better treatment because if the doctor can blame the fat, the doctor will blame the fat. With the thin person, the doctor looks for other causes.  This is a well documented bias. You have this bias, too. Imagine the following symptoms assigned to a fat person and a thin person. Knee pain. Sleep disturbance. Chest pain. Shortness of breath. Don't you want to automatically tell the fat person to lose weight for any of those symptoms? But what do you say to the thin person? (Hint: "We better runs some tests.")


Every patient gets tests, even fat ones.  The only difference is that obesity is extremely easy to diagnose and has a wide assortment of disorders and maladies associated with it.

If a patient walks in with a gun shot wound to the leg, does too much testing need to be done?
If a patient walks in, weighs 500 pounds and has knee pain, does it really take any testing to figure out why?
 
2014-03-03 06:36:54 PM  

Elegy: Ow! That was my feelings!: Elegy: [i.imgur.com image 658x459]

[farm5.staticflickr.com image 627x479]

You fat-shamer. Take your thing privilege somewhere else.

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2014-03-03 06:36:58 PM  
That isn't just bias, Spinner880, all the conditions you listed have been shown to be caused by being overweight. When there is a big obvious problem that may be the cause it is usually sound practice to address that first and see if that alleviates the condition the patient is complaining of, as other treatments such as medication or surgery can have sometimes dramatic negative affects. There is also the fact that being overweight can cause in some cases imbalances in hormonal levels (not often, but it does happen. IANAD) that can skew diagnostic tests. This applies even outside of your very narrow hypothetical as being overweight has been shown to cause or aggravate a whole host of conditions.
 
2014-03-03 06:37:16 PM  

spinner880: You have this bias, too. Imagine the following symptoms assigned to a fat person and a thin person. Knee pain. Sleep disturbance. Chest pain. Shortness of breath. Don't you want to automatically tell the fat person to lose weight for any of those symptoms? But what do you say to the thin person? (Hint: "We better runs some tests.")


Maybe it's because fatness actually can cause those things and is, in fact, one of the most common causes of them?

If someone who smokes 2 packs a day complains of shortness of breath, the doctor doesn't say "Hmm, that's unusual, let's run some expensive, uncomfortable, and time-consuming tests."  He tells you to stop smoking.  Why?  Because it is very likely to cure or substantially improve the problem, and even if it doesn't completely go away you've done something that is very good for your long-term health.
 
2014-03-03 06:37:49 PM  

Shedim: Something to help clear the air a bit.

/I suspect the article writer is part of group two.


My biggest problem with the Fat Acceptance Movement is the acronym? Why not Fat Acceptance Trend? Or Fat Acceptance Transition? Then they could walk around saying "I'm a member of F.A.T.!"
 
2014-03-03 06:37:50 PM  
10 START CSB
20 TYPE "At Walgreen's today waiting at the pharmacy.  Overweight lady walks slowly, panting loudly. She has a child with her (granddaughter?).  Overweight lady sits down to wait her turn.  When called, she slowly moves to the desk.  While moving (imagine a jello iceberg if you will), her side catches a some product on the display, knocking it to the floor.  She turned to the little girl with her and remarked, "I'm fat.  What can I say?".  No effort to pick it up.  Not even a glance after she knocked it off."
30 STOP CSB
40 EXIT
 
2014-03-03 06:40:03 PM  

Shedim: Something to help clear the air a bit.

/I suspect the article writer is part of group two.


from that link

The National Association to Advance Fat Acceptance: Not to be confused with the National Association for the Advancement of Fat People (NAAFP), a fictitious organisation.
 
2014-03-03 06:40:25 PM  

spinner880: People really miss the point on this. No one is pissing and moaning because the doctor called them fat, but because the doctor focuses on the fat to the exclusion of other problems. If a fat person and a thin person both go to the doctor with the same complaint, the thin person gets better treatment because if the doctor can blame the fat, the doctor will blame the fat. With the thin person, the doctor looks for other causes.  This is a well documented bias. You have this bias, too. Imagine the following symptoms assigned to a fat person and a thin person. Knee pain. Sleep disturbance. Chest pain. Shortness of breath. Don't you want to automatically tell the fat person to lose weight for any of those symptoms? But what do you say to the thin person? (Hint: "We better runs some tests.")


I'll take "what are comorbidities for $500, Alex". Far be it from me to interrupt your laymans persecution complex, but your doctor it right. Obesity has tons (pun intended) of comorbidities. If you are having the symptoms of a comorbidity, despite how much medical fact may hurt your feelings, it's probably directly tied to your obesity. Lose the weight and come back. If the knee pain is still there, we can refer you to ortho.
 
2014-03-03 06:40:41 PM  
My doctor said the next time he sees me he wants my cholesterol and my weight down. I never went back to that quack.
 
2014-03-03 06:41:50 PM  
I thought I read somewhere that fat people don't have feelings...or was it souls that they don't have? Hell, I can't remember.
 
2014-03-03 06:43:06 PM  

zelachang: If a patient walks in, weighs 500 pounds and has knee pain, does it really take any testing to figure out why?


Yes it does. Obesity doesn't cause arthritis, for one thing, so telling the hypothetical patient to lose weight may end up making things worse by exacerbating the untreated arthritis.

You still need to do tests to figure out exactly what is causing the problem, because if you don't you'll likely make the actual problem worse. This is something any competent doctor should be doing - listening to their patient, getting their medical history and performing a proper diagnosis. While the obesity likely isn't helping matters, you still need to figure out the exact cause so you can treat the condition properly.
 
2014-03-03 06:44:06 PM  
TFA makes exactly the right point.  Your doctor (along with extremely close friends and family) is the ONLY appropriate person to constructively criticize your weight.  Anonymous Internet people excepted.

If you as a group of proudly fat Americans "shame" medical professionals into not doing their jobs and advising you on your health, then you're being idiots.

I suspect this could become a real thing; doctors getting discouraged from broaching an unpleasant subject exactly because of fat-pride backlash.  This extreme sensitivity hurts everyone.

"Didn't ask WHAT I eat" -- for farking real?  It's how MUCH you eat.  He or she wasn't offering to draw you up a specific diet, because you're not a child, an invalid, or mentally deficient.  He or she was suggesting that you eat less and exercise more, so you would lose some farking weight.  It's his or her duty.  Buy a silly weight loss book if you're that stupid.

"But l might be eating because of stress."  He or she's not your therapist.  You are overeating.  Stop it.

Shame is for people who do bad things; that's not what this is about.  You don't need to feel shame, just the need to improve your life.

My god, did anyone see Sibourey (spelling) at the Oscars.  That woman has way too much fat pride.  But it must be the KINDS of food she eats, we "put the fork down" people just don't understand, right?  Bollocks.
 
2014-03-03 06:44:24 PM  

Sin_City_Superhero: I thought I read somewhere that fat people don't have feelings...or was it souls that they don't have? Hell, I can't remember.


I'm just amazed the fat people are upset. I thought they were supposed to be jolly.
 
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