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(Talking Points Memo)   Steve Stockan (R - TX) wants you to know that if you've been helping to spread that old booking photo of his around the internet, you dun goofed   (talkingpointsmemo.com ) divider line
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2014-03-03 04:56:22 PM  
he's such a funny girl.
 
2014-03-03 05:09:37 PM  
I may have accidently reposted this article on FB.
I hope he threatens me with jail.
 
2014-03-03 05:15:07 PM  
trailblazersblog.dallasnews.com

I'm so scared.
 
2014-03-03 05:23:27 PM  
Come get me you tub o'lard:

a1.img.talkingpointsmemo.com

/and don't call me during the Oscars
 
2014-03-03 05:34:24 PM  
I can't think of a better way to ensure widespread distribution of the mugshot photo.
 
2014-03-03 05:34:33 PM  
Mr. Stockman, can I introduce you to Ms. Streisand?
 
2014-03-03 05:35:14 PM  
I don't think he thought his cunning plan all the way through.
 
2014-03-03 05:36:15 PM  
He should get a celebrity to help him bury this pernicious story. Someone with broad appeal, like Streisand.

/I know, I know, they prefer to be called dames
 
2014-03-03 05:36:33 PM  
now that's the kind of personal responsibility that all Republicans can appreciate.
 
2014-03-03 05:36:37 PM  
Once again another quality greenlit headline unmarred by proofreading.
 
2014-03-03 05:37:09 PM  
He seems all stressed out about it.

I wonder if he can get his hands on some Valium....
 
2014-03-03 05:37:39 PM  
He's only a set of crazy eyes away:

law2.umkc.edu
 
2014-03-03 05:37:41 PM  

pueblonative: Mr. Stockman, can I introduce you to Ms. Streisand?


*tiny fist*
 
2014-03-03 05:38:52 PM  
Did he ever answer the question as to what happened to those pills back in the 1970s?

Just asking a question.
 
2014-03-03 05:39:45 PM  
This is the guy who wants to take Cornyn's seat? LOLLERSKATES. Sounds like this is the first mouthful as the Republicans start eating themselves. Stay classy, Cornyn's anoynmous SuperPAC that can't be traced back to his campaign because of several shell companies and proxies.
 
2014-03-03 05:40:00 PM  
img.fark.net

What, this picture?
 
2014-03-03 05:42:01 PM  
So he wasn't convicted.
Neither was I.
But he was still arrested.
So was I.
I always disclose my arrest, Mr. Stockman.
And this is why
 
2014-03-03 05:42:58 PM  

s3.amazonaws.com

 
2014-03-03 05:43:14 PM  
One one hand, this guy is nuts, on the other hand, he is running against Cornyn... i have no idea whom to support =(
 
2014-03-03 05:43:28 PM  
Candidate Stockman Threatens Jail To Anyone Who Publishes His Mugshot


i2.kym-cdn.com
 
2014-03-03 05:43:41 PM  
Whose Steve Stockan?
 
2014-03-03 05:44:28 PM  

Dinobot: One one hand, this guy is nuts, on the other hand, he is running against Cornyn... i have no idea whom to support =(


That sounds like a perfect opportunity for a Libertarian to win.
 
2014-03-03 05:44:38 PM  
Time to start tweetin' that motherfarker...
 
2014-03-03 05:44:58 PM  
As I understand it, under Michigan's compiled laws, making an arrest record nonpublic simply makes the record exempt from the state's Freedom of Information laws, so that the state cannot release that records pursuant to a request.

It says absolutely zip, as far as I know, about anyone else disclosing his arrest record.
 
2014-03-03 05:45:11 PM  
Maybe he ought to, you know, propose a bill that old shiat like this gets taken down eventually?
 
2014-03-03 05:46:47 PM  
I'm sure that if he wins, he'll be fast-tracked onto a committee responsible for Internet regulation.
 
2014-03-03 05:47:12 PM  

RexTalionis: As I understand it, under Michigan's compiled laws, making an arrest record nonpublic simply makes the record exempt from the state's Freedom of Information laws, so that the state cannot release that records pursuant to a request.

It says absolutely zip, as far as I know, about anyone else disclosing his arrest record.


Let it be noted that I'm not stating anything beyond a personal opinion and not a legal opinion.
 
2014-03-03 05:47:18 PM  
"Yet a man named Stephen Ernest Stockman with the same birthday as Stockman was arrested in Michigan in 1977 and initially charged with felony possession of diazepam, also known as Valium, records show. What's more, Stockman spoke openly about such an incident during his first term in Congress in the mid-1990s."

Well, now, I'm just not sure what to make of all these strange coincidences.
 
2014-03-03 05:47:35 PM  
 
2014-03-03 05:48:07 PM  
I hate TX politics.   Who gives a fark if he was arrested in 36 years ago for a (dismissed) possession charge?  If that weighs in your decision as to how you vote then you fail as a voter.

If you vote for any of these GOP or Teabagger dickholes anyway then you fail as a human being.
 
2014-03-03 05:51:20 PM  
I could give two shiats if the guy was busted for having Valium 40 years ago.

His outraged reaction to this is far more enlightening about his character, however.
 
2014-03-03 05:52:57 PM  
i277.photobucket.com

Suck it, Stockman!
 
2014-03-03 05:53:43 PM  

fusillade762: I could give two shiats if the guy was busted for having Valium 40 years ago.

His outraged reaction to this is far more enlightening about his character, however.


It also says something about his grasp of the American political and legal system, if he actually thinks doing this

a1.img.talkingpointsmemo.com

is illegal and/or can even be stopped.
 
2014-03-03 05:54:51 PM  

HortusMatris: Steve Stockman's arrest record.

/Come at me, bro.


Detective Fattome? Is that pronounced as in
i.dawn.com
"fat tome,"  or "it's still fat to me, damn it."
 
2014-03-03 05:57:43 PM  

Paris1127: HortusMatris: Steve Stockman's arrest record.

/Come at me, bro.

Detective Fattome? Is that pronounced as in
[i.dawn.com image 608x325]
"fat tome,"  or "it's still fat to me, damn it."


Perhaps it's "fuh toe may"?
 
2014-03-03 05:58:51 PM  
The Streisand Effect is on a 3 day roll on Fark.
 
2014-03-03 05:59:01 PM  

So, it sounds like he's not denying that he was arrested and charged with felony possession of Valium, but the charges were dismissed and expunged? And that thus, both of these pictures:

a1.img.talkingpointsmemo.com


show the same, innocent man?

OK. The press can have fun asking him about whether he thinks drug prosecutions are too lenient, too harsh, or about right; and asking him about whether he rejects the existence of rights such as "innocence until proven guilty in a court of law" that are non-enumerated in the Bill Of Rights.
 
2014-03-03 06:03:10 PM  
Jeezus, just own it. Not that he would win anyway, but it definitely shows how clueless and out of touch he is.
 
2014-03-03 06:06:01 PM  

Ow! That was my feelings!: Jeezus, just own it. Not that he would win anyway, but it definitely shows how clueless and out of touch he is.


You have no idea. Try visiting his Facebook page. The derp is stunning.
 
2014-03-03 06:08:00 PM  
10, 7, 67, 47, 7.  Sounds like a repeating code from Contact or some other alien movie. Must mean something. Can't we meme him?
 
2014-03-03 06:13:28 PM  
The man had the nerve to support increasing penalties and mandatory minimum sentences for drug traffickers, and the death penalty for international ones. That man is a real class act.
 
2014-03-03 06:23:54 PM  
Stockan's new campaign song.
 
2014-03-03 06:34:31 PM  

mcreadyblue: Whose Steve Stockan?


MINE!
 
2014-03-03 06:49:13 PM  
Fark, I am disappoint.

static.fjcdn.com


i4.photobucket.com
 
2014-03-03 07:01:04 PM  

Gotfire: I hate TX politics.   Who gives a fark if he was arrested in 36 years ago for a (dismissed) possession charge?  If that weighs in your decision as to how you vote then you fail as a voter.

If you vote for any of these GOP or Teabagger dickholes anyway then you fail as a human being.




I'm voting for him tomorrow. Him and Cruz together will provide years of Fark headlines!
 
2014-03-03 07:17:19 PM  
I will be so glad when tomorrow is over. The radio and TV stations around here have been nothing but commercials stating "X is a true Conservative, unlike his opponent Y" and of course they all promise to "fight Obama's liberal agenda", even the guy running for dogcatcher.
 
2014-03-03 07:20:50 PM  

LukeR: I will be so glad when tomorrow is over. The radio and TV stations around here have been nothing but commercials stating "X is a true Conservative, unlike his opponent Y" and of course they all promise to "fight Obama's liberal agenda", even the guy running for dogcatcher.


I know. I actually scream at my TV every time they air. Ignorant folks will eat up the lies.
 
2014-03-03 07:48:37 PM  

Smeggy Smurf: img.fark.net

What, this picture?


Yes. What? I'm just quoting Smeggy Smurf with pic and all for context
 
2014-03-03 07:55:34 PM  
rather than being an adult and admitting that as a youth he made a mistake that many others have done.  That perhaps the drug enforcement laws in this nation are too strict and that if he had not had access to the resources he did his life story might be very different.  But no, he acts like a fat asshole.   fark this guy and his human failings.
 
2014-03-03 08:15:43 PM  

TedCruz'sCrazyDad: Gotfire: I hate TX politics.   Who gives a fark if he was arrested in 36 years ago for a (dismissed) possession charge?  If that weighs in your decision as to how you vote then you fail as a voter.

If you vote for any of these GOP or Teabagger dickholes anyway then you fail as a human being.

I'm voting for him tomorrow. Him and Cruz together will provide years of Fark headlines!


It's not worth it.
 
2014-03-03 08:19:30 PM  
See, if I were running for office it would go a little something like this right off the bat:

"I've been arrested and put in the county jail when I was in my 20's because, like most of us, I was a dumbass in my 20's. I just happened to get caught being a dumbass. I've also picked up fat chicks at closing time, experimented with various illegal substances, drank to excess and puked on somebody else's property. During a period of unemployment, I've fallen behind on my bills. I've wanted to tell the boss to fark off more than once. Hell, I even quit a job without notice one time. In short, I'm pretty much like everybody else that's lived life without having everything handed to them. Any questions?"
 
2014-03-03 08:19:45 PM  
So what Steve Stockman is saying is that he was arrested for a felony in 1977? Why doesn't Steve Stockman just own the fact he was arrest in 1977 for having drugs? I mean, the fact that Steve Stockman was arrested in 1977 for having Valium wouldn't affect my opinion of whether or not to vote for him. Steve Stockman shouldn't be making a big deal about being arrested in 1977. I mean, I've googled plenty of stuff on google, but until today didn't even know that Steve Stockman was arrested in Michigan in 1977. The fact that Steve Stockman was arrested in 1977 wasn't really a big deal until Steve Stockman decided to put it at the fore of his mind. He (Steve Stockman) obviously didn't think of the Streisand Effect when he decided to go after the people who were talking about Steve Stockman being arrested in Michigan in 1977 with Valium.

Steve Stockman, I have some advice to you about your felony arrest in 1977 in Michigan. That advice is simple: Steve Stockman should embrace his felony arrest in 1977 in Michigan with Valium. Failure to acknowledge, or threatening to sue, anyone posting the old booking photo of your (Steve Stockman) arrest in 1977 in Michigan while possessing Valium is counterproductive.
 
2014-03-03 08:24:07 PM  
That photo needs to be plastered on every light pole in Texas.
 
2014-03-03 08:36:06 PM  

inglixthemad: So what Steve Stockman is saying is that he was arrested for a felony in 1977? Why doesn't Steve Stockman just own the fact he was arrest in 1977 for having drugs? I mean, the fact that Steve Stockman was arrested in 1977 for having Valium wouldn't affect my opinion of whether or not to vote for him. Steve Stockman shouldn't be making a big deal about being arrested in 1977. I mean, I've googled plenty of stuff on google, but until today didn't even know that Steve Stockman was arrested in Michigan in 1977. The fact that Steve Stockman was arrested in 1977 wasn't really a big deal until Steve Stockman decided to put it at the fore of his mind. He (Steve Stockman) obviously didn't think of the Streisand Effect when he decided to go after the people who were talking about Steve Stockman being arrested in Michigan in 1977 with Valium.

Steve Stockman, I have some advice to you about your felony arrest in 1977 in Michigan. That advice is simple: Steve Stockman should embrace his felony arrest in 1977 in Michigan with Valium. Failure to acknowledge, or threatening to sue, anyone posting the old booking photo of your (Steve Stockman) arrest in 1977 in Michigan while possessing Valium is counterproductive.


Nice.
 
2014-03-03 08:46:59 PM  
img.fark.net

Is this the photo in question? I'm just asking questions.
 
2014-03-03 09:01:19 PM  
Steve Stockman is in a state with a robust anti-SLAPP law, and this threat falls squarely into SLAPP territory. So if he tries it, he better have money ready to pay up.

/He's already suing groups for defamation by telling the truth (that he's been in jail more than once), so I bet that doesn't matter to him that much...
 
2014-03-03 09:06:12 PM  
img.fark.net
 
2014-03-03 09:15:21 PM  
I don't think he's objecting to the information about his arrest. I think he objects to people knowing how creepy he looked.
 
2014-03-03 09:20:23 PM  
This is just begging for a quality photoshop contest.
 
2014-03-03 09:55:01 PM  
He also doesn't want to talk about that unfortunate incident in the showers or being passed around for a pack of smokes.
 
2014-03-03 09:58:41 PM  
I couldn't get past the felony arrest for Valium without laughing to hard to read.
 
2014-03-03 10:05:49 PM  

anfrind: TedCruz'sCrazyDad: Gotfire: I hate TX politics.   Who gives a fark if he was arrested in 36 years ago for a (dismissed) possession charge?  If that weighs in your decision as to how you vote then you fail as a voter.

If you vote for any of these GOP or Teabagger dickholes anyway then you fail as a human being.

I'm voting for him tomorrow. Him and Cruz together will provide years of Fark headlines!

It's not worth it.




The Democratic nominee is a Lyndon LaRouche supporter, so it's really a toss up.
 
2014-03-03 10:14:31 PM  

SeedFreak: 10, 7, 67, 47, 7.  Sounds like a repeating code from Contact or some other alien movie. Must mean something. Can't we meme him?


If you plug it into google maps, it gives a location in cancun! foreign sleeper agent!!!11
 
2014-03-03 11:02:07 PM  
My question is this: Was the record supposed to be expunged?  Were the charges dropped?

If these are true, then Stockman has done nothing wrong, nor is his hiding anything.

However, it doesn't really matter, because public record is public record. Freedom of speech and all that.
 
2014-03-03 11:04:16 PM  

Smeggy Smurf: Dinobot: One one hand, this guy is nuts, on the other hand, he is running against Cornyn... i have no idea whom to support =(

That sounds like a perfect opportunity for a Libertarian to win.


There is never a perfect opportunity for a libertarian to win.  My opinion of course, just happens to be correct. :-)
 
2014-03-03 11:14:12 PM  

Darth_Lukecash: My question is this: Was the record supposed to be expunged?  Were the charges dropped?

If these are true, then Stockman has done nothing wrong, nor is his hiding anything.

However, it doesn't really matter, because public record is public record. Freedom of speech and all that.


It's wrong to threaten to jail people simply because they acknowledge reality. It shows that even as a congressman, he has no grasp at all of what the first amendment is all about.
 
2014-03-03 11:14:41 PM  

Darth_Lukecash: My question is this: Was the record supposed to be expunged?  Were the charges dropped?

If these are true, then Stockman has done nothing wrong, nor is his hiding anything.

However, it doesn't really matter, because public record is public record. Freedom of speech and all that.


Expunged arrest records mean you are allowed to truthfully answer "no" to "Have you been arrested..." type questions on employment forms, applications, and other legal documents.  They mean the arrest  legally is treated as if it didn't happen.  However, it still happened in a reality sense, and saying that it happened is absolutely not legally actionable defamation.  We're mocking him for acting as if it is.
 
2014-03-03 11:15:35 PM  
Remastered and re-relased on its own recognition
img.fark.net
 
2014-03-03 11:27:52 PM  

HortusMatris: Paris1127: HortusMatris: Steve Stockman's arrest record.

/Come at me, bro.

Detective Fattome? Is that pronounced as in
[i.dawn.com image 608x325]
"fat tome,"  or "it's still fat to me, damn it."

Perhaps it's "fuh toe may"?


"Bouquet."

/saw Mr. Bucket on an old Doctor Who the other night
//he was pretty good actually
 
2014-03-04 12:04:41 AM  

firefly212: Darth_Lukecash: My question is this: Was the record supposed to be expunged?  Were the charges dropped?

If these are true, then Stockman has done nothing wrong, nor is his hiding anything.

However, it doesn't really matter, because public record is public record. Freedom of speech and all that.

It's wrong to threaten to jail people simply because they acknowledge reality. It shows that even as a congressman, he has no grasp at all of what the first amendment is all about.


You misunderstand: I was saying that his opponents were saying he was hiding a criminal record. If the record was to be expunged, then he didn't hide anything.

As for his petulant sue happy comments. Freedom of speech means he can to act like a cry baby. I get to point and laugh.
 
2014-03-04 12:28:00 AM  

Mithiwithi: Expunged arrest records mean you are allowed to truthfully answer "no" to "Have you been arrested..." type questions on employment forms, applications, and other legal documents. They mean the arrest legally is treated as if it didn't happen. However, it still happened in a reality sense, and saying that it happened is absolutely not legally actionable defamation. We're mocking him for acting as if it is.


QFT.  Steve Stockman seems to think that there is an additional magical process that goes back in time and edits the memories of anyone who might have known that Steve Stockman was arrested in 1977 for possession of Valium without a prescription (aka illegal drugs).  The government agencies that would or could retrieve his arrest records cannot divulge that Steve Stockman was arrested in 1977 with illegal drugs, but everyone else on earth who isn't in that government agency (or those agencies) have no restriction about knowing or telling others that Steve Stockman was arrested in 1977 for possessing drugs illegally.

Steve Stockman's not understanding the laws regarding his arrest in 1977 for possessing illegal drugs makes him rather unqualified for any job as a legislator.
 
2014-03-04 01:04:23 AM  
So the War on Civil Liberties Drugs isn't such a hot idea when a slimebag Republican (but I repeat myself) gets hauled in.

christopherfountain.files.wordpress.com
 
2014-03-04 01:09:05 AM  

mofa: Mithiwithi: Expunged arrest records mean you are allowed to truthfully answer "no" to "Have you been arrested..." type questions on employment forms, applications, and other legal documents. They mean the arrest legally is treated as if it didn't happen. However, it still happened in a reality sense, and saying that it happened is absolutely not legally actionable defamation. We're mocking him for acting as if it is.

QFT.  Steve Stockman seems to think that there is an additional magical process that goes back in time and edits the memories of anyone who might have known that Steve Stockman was arrested in 1977 for possession of Valium without a prescription (aka illegal drugs).  The government agencies that would or could retrieve his arrest records cannot divulge that Steve Stockman was arrested in 1977 with illegal drugs, but everyone else on earth who isn't in that government agency (or those agencies) have no restriction about knowing or telling others that Steve Stockman was arrested in 1977 for possessing drugs illegally.

Steve Stockman's not understanding the laws regarding his arrest in 1977 for possessing illegal drugs makes him rather unqualified for any job as a legislator.


Ah, but you see, you cannot expunge an arrest record. The arrest record stays forever and ever, amen. You can expunge the CRIMINAL record, and have removed, sealed or expunged such things as your conviction (if any), your plea deal (if any), the transcripts and "identifying information." There seems to be a lot of conflicting information on the Intertubes about this, and it varies wildly from state to state.

What I do know from my own experience is this: Even if you were never charged, the best you can do is ask to have the arrest record sealed. It doesn't automatically happen. Also, even if you ask to have the record sealed (as Stockman obviously didn't do, because it wasn't), they don't magically erase everything, they just take out "identifying information." So some of it is still there. And finally, your FI (field interrogation) card, is likely still floating around somewhere, as is the original police report, unless you were lucky enough to be arrested in the Olden Days before such things went digital.

Bottom line, as a deputy told me when I was a tiny little ex-felon: Even if your records were sealed, always tell the truth. If anyone asks if you were convicted, say you weren't convicted; but if anyone asks if you were arrested, say you were arrested. Because it's much much easier to explain "Yes, I was arrested for being young and stupid but I got over it," than to explain why you lied about it later on. Right, Mr. Stockman?
 
2014-03-04 08:45:35 AM  

inglixthemad: So what Steve Stockman is saying is that he was arrested for a felony in 1977? Why doesn't Steve Stockman just own the fact he was arrest in 1977 for having drugs? I mean, the fact that Steve Stockman was arrested in 1977 for having Valium wouldn't affect my opinion of whether or not to vote for him. Steve Stockman shouldn't be making a big deal about being arrested in 1977. I mean, I've googled plenty of stuff on google, but until today didn't even know that Steve Stockman was arrested in Michigan in 1977. The fact that Steve Stockman was arrested in 1977 wasn't really a big deal until Steve Stockman decided to put it at the fore of his mind. He (Steve Stockman) obviously didn't think of the Streisand Effect when he decided to go after the people who were talking about Steve Stockman being arrested in Michigan in 1977 with Valium.

Steve Stockman, I have some advice to you about your felony arrest in 1977 in Michigan. That advice is simple: Steve Stockman should embrace his felony arrest in 1977 in Michigan with Valium. Failure to acknowledge, or threatening to sue, anyone posting the old booking photo of your (Steve Stockman) arrest in 1977 in Michigan while possessing Valium is counterproductive.


Bill Gates was aressted in 1977 in Albuquerque and turned his life around. 
Why can't this fat asshole?
 
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