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2014-03-03 07:43:52 PM  

T-Servo: assjuice: Honestly, I don't see what the big deal is either.

Ukraine is weak = Obama is weak = Palin should be president


Also, if Obama HAD actually sent troops in, or did anything more than a strongly worded letter, he'd be Worse than Hitler because he'd be supporting the MUSLIM Tartars against the Russians. Y'know, like exactly what happened in Libya, Egypt and Syria.

I don't see why Republicans are so upset about Putin, either. I mean, he's a business-friendly, gay-hatin', liberal hatin' thug...Why SHOULDN'T they like him?

/Trick question: Republicans LOVE Putin, which is why they're making him out to be such a badass, instead of the corrupt, thuggish leader of a washed-up, crumbling ex-superpower that couldn't even get its shiat together enough to spruce up the Olympic host city.
//And if he honestly thinks he can take and hold Ukraine, let alone survive sanctions or a farking world war, you can add 'A complete dumbass' to the list of Putin's traits.
 
2014-03-03 07:44:02 PM  

TheOther: SunsetLament: Mrtraveler01: SunsetLament: I think Obama should fart some rainbows and fix everything.  Weren't we all told the entire world loved him and that they'd be falling all over themselves to follow his lead once he took office?

Yes we can!

So what should we have done instead?

Not signal to the world that the United States isn't going to lift a finger to defend any of our allies because it's too important to follow the lead of the idiot American hippies that helped put him in office.

Wait...when did the goddam Ukranians become our allies?!??


Probably around the time they stopped selling arms to Iran.

/so, uh, never
 
2014-03-03 07:44:05 PM  

SunsetLament: I'll admit, liberals are the most fun right at the moment when they realize the obvious results of their ideology flourishing is that everything goes to shiat.  It's a shame that everything has to actually go to shiat for them to realize it.  It's also a shame that they have to pretend they were not responsible in any way when it happens, too.

Thanks liberals - you're both hilarious and farking terrible.


God this is so weak. Dude, the Council of Troll Elders is going to banish you unless you pick your game up. Come on -- I believe in you. You're better than this.
 
2014-03-03 07:45:22 PM  

orclover: Ginnungagap42: TV's Vinnie: kidakita: Maybe the Brits will send in Harry Flashman to clear things up in the Crimea.

Screw that! It's time to call in ACE RIMMER!

[upload.wikimedia.org image 512x384]

What a guy!

"Smoke me a kipper, I'll be back for breakfast!"

-what the fark is a kipper?


A type of fish, traditionally had for breakfast in some places.

/The more you know
 
2014-03-03 07:45:58 PM  

SunsetLament: I'll admit, liberals are the most fun right at the moment when they realize the obvious results of their ideology flourishing is that everything goes to shiat.  It's a shame that everything has to actually go to shiat for them to realize it.  It's also a shame that they have to pretend they were not responsible in any way when it happens, too.

Thanks liberals - you're both hilarious and farking terrible.


K. As a self admitted Libby lib mcLibtardy Libby. WTF R U TALKING ABOUT?????

Sure, war bad. Got that. But what does the US motherfarking A have to do with this? Giving or receiving? Why the fark do I care more or less about this than th multitudes of crap going on all over the world? Except we (the US motherfarking A) seems to have less to do with this than most other probs we stick our unneeded nose into?????

Really!
WHY DO I CARE! PLEASE. TELL ME.
 
2014-03-03 07:46:21 PM  

vernonFL: Six hundred rode into the valley of death.
Cannons to the left of them
Cannons to the right
Into the valley of death rode the six hundred


The light brigade were run headlong into artillery they didn't see and, once they were defeated by their own orders more than anything else their commander had his negros prepare a fancy lunch to console himself.

That poem is a bit of fiction.
 
2014-03-03 07:46:31 PM  
Seriously people even if Obama ordered troops to the Ukraine its very likely we would not yet have boots on the ground, it takes time to organize and set a line of supply and to build a coalition of nations to support the effort.

Seriously the only US Military assets that might have been able to respond by now is the US sixth fleet based in Naples Italy.

Any troops in Europe would need time to supply and permission would be needed to move through allied nations before they could roll for Ukraine.

A small force could be sent by air but not enough to do much of anything beside put Moscow on notice, provided once again we got okay to route through allied air space.
 
2014-03-03 07:48:03 PM  

Greywar: 1. If china really is onboard, then I suggest we lease a couple islands from Japan for a US military base


We already do - we've had a couple of military installations there since WW2.

2. We immediately declare the no nuke provisions of Ukraine void as no one is honoring them, and sell them a dozen surplus nuclear missiles and launching systems....for $1 each.  Our way of saying "sorry that agreement about removing your nuclear weapons to protect your borders isnt working out"

You can't give nukes to a country that's about to be invaded by the Russians.  But we can actually stop dicking around and fill Poland and the Czech Republic full of missile defense systems ... and park a fleet in the Black Sea.
 
2014-03-03 07:48:44 PM  

SunsetLament: I'll admit, liberals are the most fun right at the moment when they realize the obvious results of their ideology flourishing is that everything goes to shiat.  It's a shame that everything has to actually go to shiat for them to realize it.  It's also a shame that they have to pretend they were not responsible in any way when it happens, too.

Thanks liberals - you're both hilarious and farking terrible.


I'm guessing you're a conservative and you vote Republican?

/amirite?
//what do I win?
 
2014-03-03 07:50:24 PM  

Serious Post on Serious Thread: SunsetLament: I'll admit, liberals are the most fun right at the moment when they realize the obvious results of their ideology flourishing is that everything goes to shiat.  It's a shame that everything has to actually go to shiat for them to realize it.  It's also a shame that they have to pretend they were not responsible in any way when it happens, too.

Thanks liberals - you're both hilarious and farking terrible.

K. As a self admitted Libby lib mcLibtardy Libby. WTF R U TALKING ABOUT?????

Sure, war bad. Got that. But what does the US motherfarking A have to do with this? Giving or receiving? Why the fark do I care more or less about this than th multitudes of crap going on all over the world? Except we (the US motherfarking A) seems to have less to do with this than most other probs we stick our unneeded nose into?????

Really!
WHY DO I CARE! PLEASE. TELL ME.


Poland. Estonia. Lithuania. Latvia. Sudetenland.
 
2014-03-03 07:50:27 PM  
weknowmemes.com
 
2014-03-03 07:51:06 PM  

WorldCitizen: China just wants to be able to use that same excuse on the Russian Far East in 30 to 50 years. "We're just moving in our troops to protect the Chinese people in Russia from X excuse".


I've played that game....


upload.wikimedia.org

/ too bad my CD is scratched up...
// probably wouldn't run well on Windows 7 anyways...
 
2014-03-03 07:51:15 PM  

Ow! That was my feelings!: spamdog: SunsetLament: gigantic pussy

You realize your retarded tough-guy posturing view of US foreign relations actually makes the USA weaker, don't you?

Other nations know they can count upon the USA's fear of looking cowardly or indecisive because of retards like you screaming for intervention.

People like you are the reason that the USA gets stuck in quagmires like Vietnam and Iraq, and the reason for anti-American Islamic terror which was birthed in the coup in Iran in the 50's.

Back then, the British manipulated the USA into intervening by playing up the communist threat.

And still here you are, being manipulated again.

Ya know what really makes America look like a pussy?
[filipspagnoli.files.wordpress.com image 850x635]


Our limp wrist President flailing his purse at Putin?
 
2014-03-03 07:52:44 PM  

Ow! That was my feelings!: Ya know what really makes America look like a pussy?


The only reason that you guys look like pussies when people who hate America are killing other people who hate America, is because you didn't supersize the popcorn.
 
2014-03-03 07:53:15 PM  

SunsetLament: Ow! That was my feelings!: spamdog: SunsetLament: gigantic pussy

You realize your retarded tough-guy posturing view of US foreign relations actually makes the USA weaker, don't you?

Other nations know they can count upon the USA's fear of looking cowardly or indecisive because of retards like you screaming for intervention.

People like you are the reason that the USA gets stuck in quagmires like Vietnam and Iraq, and the reason for anti-American Islamic terror which was birthed in the coup in Iran in the 50's.

Back then, the British manipulated the USA into intervening by playing up the communist threat.

And still here you are, being manipulated again.

Ya know what really makes America look like a pussy?
[filipspagnoli.files.wordpress.com image 850x635]

Our limp wrist President flailing his purse at Putin?


War is the answer.

Im guessing thats your solution although you're too chickenshiat to just come out and say that.
 
2014-03-03 07:54:05 PM  

zzrhardy: Ow! That was my feelings!: Ya know what really makes America look like a pussy?

The only reason that you guys look like pussies when people who hate America are killing other people who hate America, is because you didn't supersize the popcorn.


Shut up Icetard, nobody cares what you guys think.
 
2014-03-03 07:54:21 PM  

Ow! That was my feelings!: It's 1979 all over again.
[www.bizpacreview.com image 530x260]


www.ramascreen.com

I'm not overly fond of what comes next
 
2014-03-03 07:55:36 PM  
Somebody doubled the ration of retard juice in the freeper cages this morning I see.
 
2014-03-03 07:56:54 PM  

SunsetLament: I'll admit, liberals are the most fun right at the moment when they realize the obvious results of their ideology flourishing is that everything goes to shiat.  It's a shame that everything has to actually go to shiat for them to realize it.  It's also a shame that they have to pretend they were not responsible in any way when it happens, too.

Thanks liberals - you're both hilarious and farking terrible.


You're funny.
 
2014-03-03 07:57:21 PM  

gdb.rferl.org


"Hello, Barry?  Is it too late to get Hillary back?"

 
2014-03-03 07:57:26 PM  

Ow! That was my feelings!: It's 1979 all over again.
[www.bizpacreview.com image 530x260]


Been saying all along that a repeat of the Carter Administration is a "best case scenario" for Obama.

/we may be headed for the ultimate worst case scenario
 
2014-03-03 07:58:31 PM  

Animatronik: PC LOAD LETTER: jim32rr: [cdn.washingtonexaminer.biz image 550x550]

What would you do? Please cite why you think your plan would work. Use historical examples.

I think Obama should declare itty bitty economic sanctions, sort of like the itty bitty airstrike they were planning against Syria.


Large sanctions and removing Russia from the G8 is in the works. What else? What would you do differently? So far, you agree with him.
 
2014-03-03 07:58:51 PM  

Tatterdemalian: Ow! That was my feelings!: It's 1979 all over again.
[www.bizpacreview.com image 530x260]

Been saying all along that a repeat of the Carter Administration is a "best case scenario" for Obama.

/we may be headed for the ultimate worst case scenario


Hey! I voted against the Mormon, don't blame me.
 
2014-03-03 08:00:51 PM  
Russia and China are on good terms.   Iran is getting back a bit of its strength because the west have caved and eased sanctions.    Nations are making some power moves.

But fear not because the US has Chucky Hagel?    John Kerry?   Barack Obama and Joe Biden ?

Dear God the US is in trouble.
 
2014-03-03 08:02:15 PM  

Serious Post on Serious Thread: Really!WHY DO I CARE! PLEASE. TELL ME.


It's probably a survival instinct. One of the many primitive instincts the less enlightened never outgrow.

/it goes away if you smoke enough pot and drink enough beer
 
2014-03-03 08:02:32 PM  
As smart as he is, I don't think Obama or his team really have the international game down. We involved ourselves in Libya, with far less reason than even for Iraq or especially Afghanistan, against someone who had already surrendered his major military programs to us, and now there's no reliability in surrendering to the U.S. as an agreement. He stood up for protecting Syrian civilians from chemical weapons, then when Syria (or somebody) apparently deployed them, we dicked around until Putin came in and settled the issue to some extent. Now we have Ukraine's quasi-revolution leading to Russia getting militarily involved, an agreement with Ukraine that goes bad for us whether we honor it or lawyer our way out of it, and China flexing its muscles and looking hungrily at Japanese territory for its own ends.

Applying force over Ukraine could lead to a major war. Not applying force could lead to wider conflicts, and a major war.

I'll just have to trust that President Obama makes his decisions for the right reasons, since any one of them could go south in a bad way. But we don't have the credibility to pull off denunciations, sanctions, or ultimatums now.
 
2014-03-03 08:04:34 PM  

Ow! That was my feelings!: Serious Post on Serious Thread: SunsetLament: I'll admit, liberals are the most fun right at the moment when they realize the obvious results of their ideology flourishing is that everything goes to shiat.  It's a shame that everything has to actually go to shiat for them to realize it.  It's also a shame that they have to pretend they were not responsible in any way when it happens, too.

Thanks liberals - you're both hilarious and farking terrible.

K. As a self admitted Libby lib mcLibtardy Libby. WTF R U TALKING ABOUT?????

Sure, war bad. Got that. But what does the US motherfarking A have to do with this? Giving or receiving? Why the fark do I care more or less about this than th multitudes of crap going on all over the world? Except we (the US motherfarking A) seems to have less to do with this than most other probs we stick our unneeded nose into?????

Really!
WHY DO I CARE! PLEASE. TELL ME.

Poland. Estonia. Lithuania. Latvia. Sudetenland.


K. So I'm totes a prick and all. But NONE OF THOSE COUNTRIES MAKE ME GIVE A shiat. (Except maybe Poland, bc vodka). I mean honestly, if u & yrs r affected by this my condolences are sincere. But none of those places mean more or less shiat to me as an American than all the other farked places in the world. Except they kinda mean a little less cause I don't think the US has directly contributed to their particular variety of farked up ness lately.

Again. Disabuse me of my ignorance. But this really seems like some regional BS I don't give a shiat about (ie, we got our own probs, stop farking w others).
 
2014-03-03 08:06:03 PM  
Kipper launching a nuke...

www.arranalexander.co.uk
 
2014-03-03 08:07:46 PM  

Boojum2k: Applying force over Ukraine could lead to a major war. Not applying force could lead to wider conflicts, and a major war.


genius
 
2014-03-03 08:07:48 PM  

Serious Post on Serious Thread: Ow! That was my feelings!: Serious Post on Serious Thread: SunsetLament: I'll admit, liberals are the most fun right at the moment when they realize the obvious results of their ideology flourishing is that everything goes to shiat.  It's a shame that everything has to actually go to shiat for them to realize it.  It's also a shame that they have to pretend they were not responsible in any way when it happens, too.

Thanks liberals - you're both hilarious and farking terrible.

K. As a self admitted Libby lib mcLibtardy Libby. WTF R U TALKING ABOUT?????

Sure, war bad. Got that. But what does the US motherfarking A have to do with this? Giving or receiving? Why the fark do I care more or less about this than th multitudes of crap going on all over the world? Except we (the US motherfarking A) seems to have less to do with this than most other probs we stick our unneeded nose into?????

Really!
WHY DO I CARE! PLEASE. TELL ME.

Poland. Estonia. Lithuania. Latvia. Sudetenland.

K. So I'm totes a prick and all. But NONE OF THOSE COUNTRIES MAKE ME GIVE A shiat. (Except maybe Poland, bc vodka). I mean honestly, if u & yrs r affected by this my condolences are sincere. But none of those places mean more or less shiat to me as an American than all the other farked places in the world. Except they kinda mean a little less cause I don't think the US has directly contributed to their particular variety of farked up ness lately.

Again. Disabuse me of my ignorance. But this really seems like some regional BS I don't give a shiat about (ie, we got our own probs, stop farking w others).


Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it. - a certain fascist apologist
 
2014-03-03 08:08:16 PM  

LordJiro: And if he honestly thinks he can take and hold Ukraine, let alone survive sanctions or a farking world war, you can add 'A complete dumbass' to the list of Putin's traits.


Maybe not the whole of Ukraine, but he can sure foment a civil war.  At worst he'd split the country with a client state in Crimea.  At best he'd keep the whole damned thing as a client state.  He's banking on the fact that nobody outside of Russia and the Ukraine will do anything meaningful, and he's right.  

Nobody's going to get into a shooting war over Ukraine except the Ukrainians.  And nobody outside of the Ukraine is going to do anything but arm the Ukrainians.
 
2014-03-03 08:09:40 PM  
I'm a lib. Sanction the fark out of them. I'd love to see peace bought, and humanity forced to evolve beyond petty violence because it's bad for business.

Farking Star Trek got it wrong. We're more Ferengi than Federation.

/hopeful that changes for the better in the future, but would be satisfied with it working in the present
 
2014-03-03 08:10:20 PM  

toadist: Russia and China are on good terms.   Iran is getting back a bit of its strength because the west have caved and eased sanctions.    Nations are making some power moves.

But fear not because the US has Chucky Hagel?    John Kerry?   Barack Obama and Joe Biden ?

Dear God the US is in trouble.


America and China are also on good terms, and China's economy depends WAY too much on America for them to risk sanctions or a war. Russia is a crumbling, corrupt shiathole that couldn't even put on a good front for the Olympics. Iran's weapons programs are being dismantled under international supervision, and the sanctions will go right back to full strength if they don't comply. Furthermore, pro-West sentiment in Iran is continuing to grow, which is why the rulers of Iran were forced to replace their lunatic president with a relatively moderate one..

But nope, BOMB EVERYTHING! Kill all who don't behave EXACTLY as America thinks they should! We don't want America to look like a PUSSY!
 
2014-03-03 08:10:34 PM  

Babwa Wawa: LordJiro: And if he honestly thinks he can take and hold Ukraine, let alone survive sanctions or a farking world war, you can add 'A complete dumbass' to the list of Putin's traits.

Maybe not the whole of Ukraine, but he can sure foment a civil war.  At worst he'd split the country with a client state in Crimea.  At best he'd keep the whole damned thing as a client state.  He's banking on the fact that nobody outside of Russia and the Ukraine will do anything meaningful, and he's right.  

Nobody's going to get into a shooting war over Ukraine except the Ukrainians.  And nobody outside of the Ukraine is going to do anything but arm the Ukrainians.


Ding. Ding. Ding.

He can do it because he (and everyone else in the world) knows nobody will lift a finger to stop him.
 
2014-03-03 08:10:50 PM  

spamdog: Boojum2k: Applying force over Ukraine could lead to a major war. Not applying force could lead to wider conflicts, and a major war.

genius


It doesn't take one to recognize a damned-if-we-do, damned-if-we-don't scenario. Either call, not just the use of force, can have dangerous long-term consequences.
 
2014-03-03 08:11:04 PM  

Babwa Wawa: LordJiro: And if he honestly thinks he can take and hold Ukraine, let alone survive sanctions or a farking world war, you can add 'A complete dumbass' to the list of Putin's traits.

Maybe not the whole of Ukraine, but he can sure foment a civil war.  At worst he'd split the country with a client state in Crimea.  At best he'd keep the whole damned thing as a client state.  He's banking on the fact that nobody outside of Russia and the Ukraine will do anything meaningful, and he's right.  

Nobody's going to get into a shooting war over Ukraine except the Ukrainians.  And nobody outside of the Ukraine is going to do anything but arm the Ukrainians.


What he's doing is giving Ukrainians an common enemy against whom to unite, especially after the Russians start shooting.
 
2014-03-03 08:11:05 PM  

Serious Post on Serious Thread: Ow! That was my feelings!: Serious Post on Serious Thread: SunsetLament: I'll admit, liberals are the most fun right at the moment when they realize the obvious results of their ideology flourishing is that everything goes to shiat.  It's a shame that everything has to actually go to shiat for them to realize it.  It's also a shame that they have to pretend they were not responsible in any way when it happens, too.

Thanks liberals - you're both hilarious and farking terrible.

K. As a self admitted Libby lib mcLibtardy Libby. WTF R U TALKING ABOUT?????

Sure, war bad. Got that. But what does the US motherfarking A have to do with this? Giving or receiving? Why the fark do I care more or less about this than th multitudes of crap going on all over the world? Except we (the US motherfarking A) seems to have less to do with this than most other probs we stick our unneeded nose into?????

Really!
WHY DO I CARE! PLEASE. TELL ME.

Poland. Estonia. Lithuania. Latvia. Sudetenland.

K. So I'm totes a prick and all. But NONE OF THOSE COUNTRIES MAKE ME GIVE A shiat. (Except maybe Poland, bc vodka). I mean honestly, if u & yrs r affected by this my condolences are sincere. But none of those places mean more or less shiat to me as an American than all the other farked places in the world. Except they kinda mean a little less cause I don't think the US has directly contributed to their particular variety of farked up ness lately.

Again. Disabuse me of my ignorance. But this really seems like some regional BS I don't give a shiat about (ie, we got our own probs, stop farking w others).


NATO.
 
2014-03-03 08:11:34 PM  
Once again to all the hard right, war mongering, "it's Obama's fault"-ers....tool up and get your ass to the Ukraine.  You obviously have a solution in mind and know better than diplomats and the President himself.   So get to it, cowards.
 
2014-03-03 08:12:06 PM  
I find it funny that so many of the conservative analyses of the trouble we're now in, focus on why Obama is at fault and don't really say anything about Putin being involved.

Also note that the US is pushing for strong measures like trade sanctions (Germany is against that ) or cutting Russia out of the international banking system (UK is against that), but we need the whole farking EU to agree to those stronger measures. Those US diplomats the other week who said 'Fark the EU!' were just ahead of the game, I guess.

/but of course Bush would've gotten their support, everyone in Europe loved GW
 
2014-03-03 08:16:20 PM  

meatofmystery: Once again to all the hard right, war mongering, "it's Obama's fault"-ers....tool up and get your ass to the Ukraine.  You obviously have a solution in mind and know better than diplomats and the President himself.   So get to it, cowards.


media.nbcmiami.com
 
2014-03-03 08:16:56 PM  

meatofmystery: Once again to all the hard right, war mongering, "it's Obama's fault"-ers....tool up and get your ass to the Ukraine.  You obviously have a solution in mind and know better than diplomats and the President himself.   So get to it, cowards.


Just remember to burn your passports once you get there.
 
2014-03-03 08:17:50 PM  

T-Servo: I find it funny that so many of the conservative analyses of the trouble we're now in, focus on why Obama is at fault and don't really say anything about Putin being involved.


Obama is our President, we chose him to lead this country, and the honorary title of "leader of the free world" isn't supposed to be a joke. Putin is a challenge to be met, and a dangerous one. It's not like he was an unknown in 2008. You want to be President of the United States? Be able to stand up to the worst of the world, or don't try for the job.

President Obama is trying, at least. He's a lot stronger on domestic and social issues, particularly now, but this is not his area of expertise.
 
2014-03-03 08:17:55 PM  

SunsetLament: I'll admit, liberals are the most fun right at the moment when they realize the obvious results of their ideology flourishing is that everything goes to shiat.  It's a shame that everything has to actually go to shiat for them to realize it.  It's also a shame that they have to pretend they were not responsible in any way when it happens, too.

Thanks liberals - you're both hilarious and farking terrible.


Let's see if I can post links again yet:

If that didn't work, google "UCLA Student Has Total Emotional Breakdown After Anti-Israel Measure Fails" for some more terrible hilarity caught on video.
 
2014-03-03 08:22:03 PM  

Boojum2k: T-Servo: I find it funny that so many of the conservative analyses of the trouble we're now in, focus on why Obama is at fault and don't really say anything about Putin being involved.

Obama is our President, we chose him to lead this country, and the honorary title of "leader of the free world" isn't supposed to be a joke. Putin is a challenge to be met, and a dangerous one. It's not like he was an unknown in 2008. You want to be President of the United States? Be able to stand up to the worst of the world, or don't try for the job.

President Obama is trying, at least. He's a lot stronger on domestic and social issues, particularly now, but this is not his area of expertise.


Obviously. But stand up to the bully now, or pay a way worse price later.
 
2014-03-03 08:22:03 PM  

Boojum2k: As smart as he is, I don't think Obama or his team really have the international game down. We involved ourselves in Libya, with far less reason than even for Iraq or especially Afghanistan, against someone who had already surrendered his major military programs to us, and now there's no reliability in surrendering to the U.S. as an agreement. He stood up for protecting Syrian civilians from chemical weapons, then when Syria (or somebody) apparently deployed them, we dicked around until Putin came in and settled the issue to some extent. Now we have Ukraine's quasi-revolution leading to Russia getting militarily involved, an agreement with Ukraine that goes bad for us whether we honor it or lawyer our way out of it, and China flexing its muscles and looking hungrily at Japanese territory for its own ends.

Applying force over Ukraine could lead to a major war. Not applying force could lead to wider conflicts, and a major war.

I'll just have to trust that President Obama makes his decisions for the right reasons, since any one of them could go south in a bad way. But we don't have the credibility to pull off denunciations, sanctions, or ultimatums now.


I still don't know what you think O could have done differently. I think his big blunder was to say he would do anything at all in Syria. Russia and China clearly indicated they would oppose (militarily) any intervention. That pretty much means we could do nothing if we didn't want a shooting war with 2 nuclear-armed nations. In Ukraine, we can levy sanctions, but literally anything else would be balls-on-head retarded. Same if China takes those uninhabited islands. We won't do crap. For comparison look at North Korea. They have kidnapped and killed US servicemembers and citizens since the Korean war. What did we do? Absolutely nothing. We know where the lines are. We will only attack weaker nations. We won't go head-to-head with Russia or China. It would ruin the global economy.
 
2014-03-03 08:23:48 PM  

T-Servo: I find it funny that so many of the conservative analyses of the trouble we're now in, focus on why Obama is at fault and don't really say anything about Putin being involved.


What do you want the conservative analysis of Putin to be?  "We told you so." = there you go, there's your analysis.  Putin is what conservatives said he is - a person focused on restoring the dominance of the USSR and getting back to the uber-powerful position they were in circa the Carter Administration.  Every conservative knows this and laugh at liberals because they like to pretend it isn't so.  That's why someone as "dumb" as Sarah Palin can point out liberal rule of the United States would result in something like the Ukraine being invaded at Russia's earliest opportunity ... and promptly get laughed at by the liberal intelligentsia.

We told you so.
 
2014-03-03 08:24:50 PM  

i2.cdn.turner.com



"Perhaps you'll consider the cinema of the Ukraine ..."

 
2014-03-03 08:25:36 PM  

Tatterdemalian: SunsetLament: I'll admit, liberals are the most fun right at the moment when they realize the obvious results of their ideology flourishing is that everything goes to shiat.  It's a shame that everything has to actually go to shiat for them to realize it.  It's also a shame that they have to pretend they were not responsible in any way when it happens, too.

Thanks liberals - you're both hilarious and farking terrible.

Let's see if I can post links again yet:

If that didn't work, google "UCLA Student Has Total Emotional Breakdown After Anti-Israel Measure Fails" for some more terrible hilarity caught on video.


Holy shiat that's hilarious and sad.
 
2014-03-03 08:28:06 PM  

SunsetLament: T-Servo: I find it funny that so many of the conservative analyses of the trouble we're now in, focus on why Obama is at fault and don't really say anything about Putin being involved.

What do you want the conservative analysis of Putin to be?  "We told you so." = there you go, there's your analysis.  Putin is what conservatives said he is - a person focused on restoring the dominance of the USSR and getting back to the uber-powerful position they were in circa the Carter Administration.  Every conservative knows this and laugh at liberals because they like to pretend it isn't so.  That's why someone as "dumb" as Sarah Palin can point out liberal rule of the United States would result in something like the Ukraine being invaded at Russia's earliest opportunity ... and promptly get laughed at by the liberal intelligentsia.

We told you so.


You mean the Sarah Palin that blamed the invasion of Georgia on Barack Obama, despite it happening under "Putin has a good soul" Dubya?
 
2014-03-03 08:29:13 PM  
So many people ignorantly armchair politicking, while simultaneously ignorantly mocking politicians. It's....it's beautiful.
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