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(Sky.com)   China and Russia are "in agreement" about Ukraine. In other news. It might be time to clear out grandpa's old fallout bunker   (news.sky.com) divider line 321
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2014-03-03 06:49:03 PM  

Practical_Draconian: If Russia succeeds, China wins, as it will get a better idea on options concerning Taiwan, Spratly Islands, etc.

If Russia fails and weakens itself, China wins, as it will get a better idea on options concerning Taiwan, Spratly Islands, etc., and what not to do. And also a timetable on when and what to call Vladivostok since it's "traditional Chinese territories."

Win-win.


mkjon.es
 
2014-03-03 06:49:12 PM  

jim32rr: [cdn.washingtonexaminer.biz image 550x550]


I'd be hedging my bets if I were you. Else you run the risk of looking quite stupid when diplomacy works...

Nah, I'm sure you don't care.
 
2014-03-03 06:49:27 PM  
recessappointment.com
 
2014-03-03 06:49:44 PM  

Nike121: So, what is going to happen with our spaceflights/ folks on the space staion?

Hitching a ride with the Russians wasn't the best idea...


The rockets are actually launched from  Kazakhstan, and the Russians are only renting the Cosmodrome, so they can't be TOO belligerent unless they invade that country as well.
 
2014-03-03 06:51:41 PM  
China likes to pout about getting their feelings hurt, but they have no problem stomping on the toes of others.
 
2014-03-03 06:53:04 PM  

Mad_Radhu: Nike121: So, what is going to happen with our spaceflights/ folks on the space staion?

Hitching a ride with the Russians wasn't the best idea...

The rockets are actually launched from  Kazakhstan, and the Russians are only renting the Cosmodrome, so they can't be TOO belligerent unless they invade that country as well.


much easier, tovarisch, to destabilize said country until the populace beg the kind of benevolent russian army to return. for peace and stability!
 
2014-03-03 06:56:54 PM  

germ78: So tell me how

wellsanctions will work again?

FTFY

Working so well with Iran, No. Korea, and Cuba... they all are doing exactly what the USofA says...
 
2014-03-03 06:58:11 PM  

orclover: Ginnungagap42: TV's Vinnie: kidakita: Maybe the Brits will send in Harry Flashman to clear things up in the Crimea.

Screw that! It's time to call in ACE RIMMER!

[upload.wikimedia.org image 512x384]

What a guy!

"Smoke me a kipper, I'll be back for breakfast!"

-what the fark is a kipper?


static.guim.co.uk
This might be a picture of smoked kipper.
 
2014-03-03 06:58:42 PM  
Submittard doing what submittard does best.

Is Russia or China going to nuke you? No they're not.
 
2014-03-03 06:58:53 PM  

jim32rr: [cdn.washingtonexaminer.biz image 550x550]


You're right, we should follow the Bush doctrine and invade, oh, Ireland.
 
2014-03-03 07:01:26 PM  
Are we going to have to add Vladimir Putin's name to the list of "People That Time Travelers Should Not Go Kill" List, right under Hitler's?
 
2014-03-03 07:02:29 PM  

orclover: Ginnungagap42: TV's Vinnie: kidakita: Maybe the Brits will send in Harry Flashman to clear things up in the Crimea.

Screw that! It's time to call in ACE RIMMER!

[upload.wikimedia.org image 512x384]

What a guy!

"Smoke me a kipper, I'll be back for breakfast!"

-what the fark is a kipper?


Too lazy to Google it?
In that case, a kipper is someone who is sleeping.
 
2014-03-03 07:03:32 PM  

Mad_Radhu: germ78: So tell me how sanctions will work again?

Russia is a kleptocracy, not a dictatorship, so they are very vulnerable to being hit in the wallet. A return to the Cold War would be very bad for business within Russia, so at some point there will be pressure to de-escalate from within the business community because they are losing contracts and it is hurting their bottom line. Sanctions could help accelerate the process by brining the pain more quickly.


Thanks for the long-form answer. Though I'm skeptical in thinking that China could easily do an end-around on the sanctions by helping prop up Russia through hidden means. And then what would we do when we find out? Sanctions on China? I strongly doubt that.
 
2014-03-03 07:03:38 PM  
Well, that should make the euros forget about that little NSA thing. Thanks, Uncle Vlad!
 
2014-03-03 07:04:09 PM  

jim32rr: [cdn.washingtonexaminer.biz image 550x550]


Same as it did under Bush's "Lead With Your Dick" strategy.
 
2014-03-03 07:06:02 PM  

orclover: Ginnungagap42: TV's Vinnie: kidakita: Maybe the Brits will send in Harry Flashman to clear things up in the Crimea.

Screw that! It's time to call in ACE RIMMER!

[upload.wikimedia.org image 512x384]

What a guy!

"Smoke me a kipper, I'll be back for breakfast!"

-what the fark is a kipper?


Split herring, typically served smoked, traditional English breakfast food.
 
2014-03-03 07:07:54 PM  
I think Obama should fart some rainbows and fix everything.  Weren't we all told the entire world loved him and that they'd be falling all over themselves to follow his lead once he took office?

Yes we can!
 
2014-03-03 07:09:04 PM  
About time the West give up on the two decade experiment with Russia. Let them go hand out with what few friends they have left. Belarus, the Central Asian dictatorships, Iran, Syria, and China.
 
2014-03-03 07:09:17 PM  
Erin Burnett is looking very sexy tonight.
 
2014-03-03 07:12:50 PM  

SunsetLament: I think Obama should fart some rainbows and fix everything.  Weren't we all told the entire world loved him and that they'd be falling all over themselves to follow his lead once he took office?

Yes we can!


I know you're a troll, but can you keep your talking points straight. Why did they give him that nobel peace prize again? You're saying it WASNT because they loved him and fell all over themselves now?
 
2014-03-03 07:13:22 PM  

SunsetLament: I think Obama should fart some rainbows and fix everything.  Weren't we all told the entire world loved him and that they'd be falling all over themselves to follow his lead once he took office?

Yes we can!


So what should we have done instead?
 
2014-03-03 07:18:45 PM  
It's time for duct tape and plastic on the windows.
 
2014-03-03 07:21:54 PM  

Mrtraveler01: SunsetLament: I think Obama should fart some rainbows and fix everything.  Weren't we all told the entire world loved him and that they'd be falling all over themselves to follow his lead once he took office?

Yes we can!

So what should we have done instead?


Not signal to the world that the United States isn't going to lift a finger to defend any of our allies because it's too important to follow the lead of the idiot American hippies that helped put him in office.
 
2014-03-03 07:23:53 PM  

TV's Vinnie: kidakita: Maybe the Brits will send in Harry Flashman to clear things up in the Crimea.

Screw that! It's time to call in ACE RIMMER!

[upload.wikimedia.org image 512x384]


Interior Crocodile Alligator ...
 
2014-03-03 07:24:20 PM  

SunsetLament: Mrtraveler01: SunsetLament: I think Obama should fart some rainbows and fix everything.  Weren't we all told the entire world loved him and that they'd be falling all over themselves to follow his lead once he took office?

Yes we can!

So what should we have done instead?

Not signal to the world that the United States isn't going to lift a finger to defend any of our allies because it's too important to follow the lead of the idiot American hippies that helped put him in office.


Once again, offering no solution. Typical conservative. ;)

I ask again, what should have been the solution.
 
2014-03-03 07:24:22 PM  

SunsetLament: Mrtraveler01: SunsetLament: I think Obama should fart some rainbows and fix everything.  Weren't we all told the entire world loved him and that they'd be falling all over themselves to follow his lead once he took office?

Yes we can!

So what should we have done instead?

Not signal to the world that the United States isn't going to lift a finger to defend any of our allies because it's too important to follow the lead of the idiot American hippies that helped put him in office.


Ah, vague platitudes, king of all Republican positions.
 
2014-03-03 07:24:42 PM  

SunsetLament: Mrtraveler01: SunsetLament: I think Obama should fart some rainbows and fix everything.  Weren't we all told the entire world loved him and that they'd be falling all over themselves to follow his lead once he took office?

Yes we can!

So what should we have done instead?

Not signal to the world that the United States isn't going to lift a finger to defend any of our allies because it's too important to follow the lead of the idiot American hippies that helped put him in office.


what's funny is that the original hippies were apart of the peace movement; which was almost entirely funded by the KGB.
 
2014-03-03 07:26:46 PM  

SunsetLament: Mrtraveler01: SunsetLament: I think Obama should fart some rainbows and fix everything.  Weren't we all told the entire world loved him and that they'd be falling all over themselves to follow his lead once he took office?

Yes we can!

So what should we have done instead?

Not signal to the world that the United States isn't going to lift a finger to defend any of our allies because it's too important to follow the lead of the idiot American hippies that helped put him in office.


Wait...when did the goddam Ukranians become our allies?!??
 
2014-03-03 07:27:06 PM  

Mentat: We'll see.  China has always been very leery about encouraging independence movements and they hung Putin out to dry during the Georgia crisis.  If the West pushes things, then we'll see how general the agreement is.


K. So absent the ucraine (or how ever it's, spelled, iphone just wanted to correct to 'curtain') starts lobbing ICBMs why should I care again? I mean other than being white-ish they seem to have a much lower give-a-fark factor than most other currently active hostile inter/intra-national wars with way better PR firms.

Srsly. Why do I care again?
 
2014-03-03 07:29:09 PM  
Honestly, I don't see what the big deal is either.
 
2014-03-03 07:29:35 PM  

Mrtraveler01: SunsetLament: Mrtraveler01: SunsetLament: I think Obama should fart some rainbows and fix everything.  Weren't we all told the entire world loved him and that they'd be falling all over themselves to follow his lead once he took office?

Yes we can!

So what should we have done instead?

Not signal to the world that the United States isn't going to lift a finger to defend any of our allies because it's too important to follow the lead of the idiot American hippies that helped put him in office.

Once again, offering no solution. Typical conservative. ;)

I ask again, what should have been the solution.


Oh I have a solution: Don't posture to the world that your ideology's foundation is "being a gigantic pussy because you might break a nail if you're forced to do what's right."
 
2014-03-03 07:31:05 PM  

TheOther: SunsetLament: Mrtraveler01: SunsetLament: I think Obama should fart some rainbows and fix everything.  Weren't we all told the entire world loved him and that they'd be falling all over themselves to follow his lead once he took office?

Yes we can!

So what should we have done instead?

Not signal to the world that the United States isn't going to lift a finger to defend any of our allies because it's too important to follow the lead of the idiot American hippies that helped put him in office.

Wait...when did the goddam Ukranians become our allies?!??


1994
 
2014-03-03 07:32:23 PM  

SunsetLament: Mrtraveler01: SunsetLament: Mrtraveler01: SunsetLament: I think Obama should fart some rainbows and fix everything.  Weren't we all told the entire world loved him and that they'd be falling all over themselves to follow his lead once he took office?

Yes we can!

So what should we have done instead?

Not signal to the world that the United States isn't going to lift a finger to defend any of our allies because it's too important to follow the lead of the idiot American hippies that helped put him in office.

Once again, offering no solution. Typical conservative. ;)

I ask again, what should have been the solution.

Oh I have a solution: Don't posture to the world that your ideology's foundation is "being a gigantic pussy because you might break a nail if you're forced to do what's right."


Still nothing. I know its hard for conservatives to grasp such things but try...

What should have been done with Ukraine?
 
2014-03-03 07:34:36 PM  

orclover: -what the fark is a kipper?


i.imgur.com

R.I.P. KIPPER THE DOG

/Tiger's a douchebag
 
2014-03-03 07:34:44 PM  
I'll admit, liberals are the most fun right at the moment when they realize the obvious results of their ideology flourishing is that everything goes to shiat.  It's a shame that everything has to actually go to shiat for them to realize it.  It's also a shame that they have to pretend they were not responsible in any way when it happens, too.

Thanks liberals - you're both hilarious and farking terrible.
 
2014-03-03 07:34:45 PM  
So, if we commence with Cold War II: Electric Bugaloo, does that mean that the weapons systems we were going to cancel because they were designed to fight the cold war, will no longer be cancelled?

Maybe not the U2, but certainly the A10, right?
 
2014-03-03 07:34:55 PM  

Frank N Stein: SunsetLament: Mrtraveler01: SunsetLament: I think Obama should fart some rainbows and fix everything.  Weren't we all told the entire world loved him and that they'd be falling all over themselves to follow his lead once he took office?

Yes we can!

So what should we have done instead?

Not signal to the world that the United States isn't going to lift a finger to defend any of our allies because it's too important to follow the lead of the idiot American hippies that helped put him in office.

what's funny is that the original hippies were apart of the peace movement; which was almost entirely funded by the KGB.


what's funny.. and sad...is the Republicans are now toxic because of THEIR big government social issues...
 
2014-03-03 07:35:54 PM  

SuperNinjaToad: Looks like Obama will make the the G8 to be the G6 pretty soon then!


That would have everyone feeling so fly.
 
2014-03-03 07:35:56 PM  

Tillmaster: orclover: Ginnungagap42: TV's Vinnie: kidakita: Maybe the Brits will send in Harry Flashman to clear things up in the Crimea.

Screw that! It's time to call in ACE RIMMER!

[upload.wikimedia.org image 512x384]

What a guy!

"Smoke me a kipper, I'll be back for breakfast!"

-what the fark is a kipper?

Too lazy to Google it?
In that case, a kipper is someone who is sleeping.


Kipper: something like a sardine or an anchovy. But more tasty than the former and less nasty than the latter. But they all come in cans.
 
2014-03-03 07:36:07 PM  
1. If china really is onboard, then I suggest we lease a couple islands from Japan for a US military base
2. We immediately declare the no nuke provisions of Ukraine void as no one is honoring them, and sell them a dozen surplus nuclear missiles and launching systems....for $1 each.  Our way of saying "sorry that agreement about removing your nuclear weapons to protect your borders isnt working out"
 
2014-03-03 07:36:22 PM  
The Reds will always stick together.
 
2014-03-03 07:36:54 PM  
Hahaha, I love the "Military Strength" infographic. Feels like old times in Farkistan: CN.
 
2014-03-03 07:37:58 PM  

assjuice: Honestly, I don't see what the big deal is either.


Ukraine is weak = Obama is weak = Palin should be president

Honestly, when people spoke out against a certain past administration's policies, they were terrorists. Now it's their civic duty not only to make the president seem like he doesn't have support, they want to make sure to undercut his position and make any strong action impossible vis-a-vis Germany and other wavering partners.

/David Kramer in particular needs to shut his blowhole
 
2014-03-03 07:39:29 PM  

jim32rr: [cdn.washingtonexaminer.biz image 550x550]


What would you do? Please cite why you think your plan would work. Use historical examples.
 
2014-03-03 07:39:46 PM  

SunsetLament: gigantic pussy


You realize your retarded tough-guy posturing view of US foreign relations actually makes the USA weaker, don't you?

Other nations know they can count upon the USA's fear of looking cowardly or indecisive because of retards like you screaming for intervention.

People like you are the reason that the USA gets stuck in quagmires like Vietnam and Iraq, and the reason for anti-American Islamic terror which was birthed in the coup in Iran in the 50's.

Back then, the British manipulated the USA into intervening by playing up the communist threat.

And still here you are, being manipulated again.
 
2014-03-03 07:40:36 PM  
I'm trying to comprehend a universe where China would be offended by a large country annnexing a smaller country that declared itself independent while speaking the same language as the larger.

Would never happen unless China wanted a piece of the smaller...
 
2014-03-03 07:41:18 PM  

Nick Nostril: The Reds will always stick together.


China aimed most of their warheads at the USSR, they absolutely hated each other
 
2014-03-03 07:41:24 PM  

Nick Nostril: The Reds will always stick together.


I prefer the Cubs.
 
2014-03-03 07:43:10 PM  

PC LOAD LETTER: jim32rr: [cdn.washingtonexaminer.biz image 550x550]

What would you do? Please cite why you think your plan would work. Use historical examples.


I think Obama should declare itty bitty economic sanctions, sort of like the itty bitty airstrike they were planning against Syria.
 
2014-03-03 07:43:37 PM  

spamdog: SunsetLament: gigantic pussy

You realize your retarded tough-guy posturing view of US foreign relations actually makes the USA weaker, don't you?

Other nations know they can count upon the USA's fear of looking cowardly or indecisive because of retards like you screaming for intervention.

People like you are the reason that the USA gets stuck in quagmires like Vietnam and Iraq, and the reason for anti-American Islamic terror which was birthed in the coup in Iran in the 50's.

Back then, the British manipulated the USA into intervening by playing up the communist threat.

And still here you are, being manipulated again.


Ya know what really makes America look like a pussy?
filipspagnoli.files.wordpress.com
 
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