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(National Journal)   NASA accident report shows that Italian astronaut with water-filled helmet was dangerously close to becoming Major Tom   (nationaljournal.com) divider line 51
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2014-03-03 12:50:22 PM  
Good thing he wasn't trying to change a light bulb.
 
2014-03-03 12:55:26 PM  
What shirt was he wearing?
 
2014-03-03 01:10:10 PM  
A gay misician?
 
2014-03-03 01:10:50 PM  
Bet he didn't take his protein pills before putting his helmet on.
 
2014-03-03 01:12:09 PM  
Badiba boopi?
 
2014-03-03 01:14:06 PM  
Drowning in space? Wow, what a weird way to have died.
 
2014-03-03 01:14:08 PM  
This would have never happened to Jeb.

/unplanned detonations on launch... maybe
 
2014-03-03 01:14:20 PM  
Italian astronaut specimen

FTFY
 
2014-03-03 01:14:35 PM  

Resident Muslim: Badiba boopi?


And just in case you were worried that I had suffered a stroke:


http://youtu.be/9JhuOicPFZY
 
2014-03-03 01:15:13 PM  
A junkie? Strung out in heaven's high? Hitting an all-time low?
 
2014-03-03 01:16:14 PM  
mantiseye.com
 
2014-03-03 01:17:11 PM  
When a goldfish swam by they knew it was serious.
 
2014-03-03 01:18:21 PM  
so if he did paste, i wonder what the protocol is;  does NASA have like, a cold room, or do they just strap him in "weekend at bernie's" style and try to avoid the odor.  or, could he like, in his will say, "if i die in space, i request that my body be sent out viking funeral style"?

or, is mission protocol that they would terminate the mission and come bck home.  curious.
 
2014-03-03 01:20:11 PM  
Mars ain't the kind of place to raise your kids.
 
2014-03-03 01:20:22 PM  
You mean Major Thom?
 
2014-03-03 01:21:37 PM  

rickythepenguin: so if he did paste, i wonder what the protocol is;  does NASA have like, a cold room, or do they just strap him in "weekend at bernie's" style and try to avoid the odor.  or, could he like, in his will say, "if i die in space, i request that my body be sent out viking funeral style"?

or, is mission protocol that they would terminate the mission and come bck home.  curious.


Probably keep him in the suit. Can freeze him outside pretty easily.
 
2014-03-03 01:22:29 PM  
kerbalspaceprogram.com
 
2014-03-03 01:22:52 PM  
Hates surprises!

stuckbetweenstations.org
 
2014-03-03 01:23:59 PM  

rickythepenguin: so if he did paste, i wonder what the protocol is;  does NASA have like, a cold room, or do they just strap him in "weekend at bernie's" style and try to avoid the odor.  or, could he like, in his will say, "if i die in space, i request that my body be sent out viking funeral style"?

or, is mission protocol that they would terminate the mission and come bck home.  curious.


I don't know for sure, but if someone died in space, I bet NASA would want to do an autopsy. I suspect they'd call off the mission (unless it was a critical one) and bring the deceased home.
 
2014-03-03 01:26:10 PM  
Man... if I only had a dollar for every time my helmet inexplicably filled with water...

:(
 
2014-03-03 01:29:38 PM  

cgraves67: I bet NASA would want to do an autopsy. I suspect they'd call off the mission (unless it was a critical one) and bring the deceased home.


yeha, but in this csae specifically i'm pretty sure they'd know the cause of death.  i mean in general, what is the protocol.  scrub the mission?


I'm reading Chris Hadfield's book



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right now, and it is prety fascinating. he talks about how they have protocols for everything, like literaly checklists, and dying in space hasn't come up yet.

he was on Nerdist podcast a few months back, it was a fantastic listen. dude seems cool as shiat.

/and last month i got to meet Captain Mark Kelly, husband of Gabby Giffords, who did what, 3 Shuttle missions? We talked for a bit, and Gabby was a few feet away. I said, "oh wow, I'd like to meet her, but I don't want to bother her" and left. of course 5 minutes later i was like, "dammit, why didn't i go say hi?"
 
2014-03-03 01:30:43 PM  
I thought they would say urine trouble. Yuck!
 
2014-03-03 01:31:10 PM  

cgraves67: rickythepenguin: so if he did paste, i wonder what the protocol is;  does NASA have like, a cold room, or do they just strap him in "weekend at bernie's" style and try to avoid the odor.  or, could he like, in his will say, "if i die in space, i request that my body be sent out viking funeral style"?

or, is mission protocol that they would terminate the mission and come bck home.  curious.

I don't know for sure, but if someone died in space, I bet NASA would want to do an autopsy. I suspect they'd call off the mission (unless it was a critical one) and bring the deceased home.


They'd probably send him back to earth in a Soyuz. Strap him in and go back down like you would any other crew change- there are capsules always docked at the ISS just in case, they might use one of those, they might leave the body around in the suit until a mission could be shot up with replacement crew.
 
2014-03-03 01:32:11 PM  
We all breathed liquid for 9 months, his body will remember
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2014-03-03 01:34:27 PM  

cptjeff: Strap him in and go back down like you would any other crew change- there are capsules always docked at the ISS just in case, they might use one of those, they might leave the body around in the suit until a mission could be shot up with replacement crew.



I watched STar Wars yesterday, and I just flashed on the scene from the first one where R2 and 3PO jettison off the little ship, and the imperial dudes are like, "blast that one!"  "No....no life forms detected aboard. must have been a short circuit."   no life forms aboard.
 
2014-03-03 01:38:54 PM  
Saw this cheesy conspiracy show on Netflix and the one episode was covering a story about two guys who were picking up radio signals from Russian cosmonauts, starting with a heartbeat which was later deteremined to be a dog. Then later on there was one incident where they could hear a womans voice and she was saying she was burning. Even if fake that still pretty creepy.
 
2014-03-03 01:42:13 PM  

Onkel Buck: Saw this cheesy conspiracy show on Netflix and the one episode was covering a story about two guys who were picking up radio signals from Russian cosmonauts, starting with a heartbeat which was later deteremined to be a dog. Then later on there was one incident where they could hear a womans voice and she was saying she was burning. Even if fake that still pretty creepy.


about a year ago some recordings surfaced of a mid 60s mission where some Soviet dude was coming down, and there was smoe malfunction or whatever but basically, he was a dead man and knew it.  the story was posted here.

in the thread, people started telling stories like yours, but iwth "my grandad worked at NASA / spied on the Soviets / heard classified recordings", etc., with various horrific claims of like, hearing people die or a mission where they didn't have the right reentry velocity and/or angle and "bounced" off the earth's atmosphere, never to be herad from again.  crazy shiat.
 
2014-03-03 01:52:41 PM  
More like Maggiore Tomas.
 
2014-03-03 01:58:16 PM  

Onkel Buck: Saw this cheesy conspiracy show on Netflix and the one episode was covering a story about two guys who were picking up radio signals from Russian cosmonauts, starting with a heartbeat which was later deteremined to be a dog. Then later on there was one incident where they could hear a womans voice and she was saying she was burning. Even if fake that still pretty creepy.


I've heard that recording, first thing I've heard on the internet that's left me shaken for a hot minute.

Here it is:

http://youtu.be/9Sgc1I9sjfc
 
2014-03-03 02:01:03 PM  
All that's missing is William Shatner "singing" Rocket Man.
 
2014-03-03 02:13:12 PM  

Slypork: We all breathed liquid for 9 months, his body will remember
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Dammit, exactly I was thinking!

static4.fjcdn.com
 
2014-03-03 02:14:57 PM  

rickythepenguin: Onkel Buck: Saw this cheesy conspiracy show on Netflix and the one episode was covering a story about two guys who were picking up radio signals from Russian cosmonauts, starting with a heartbeat which was later deteremined to be a dog. Then later on there was one incident where they could hear a womans voice and she was saying she was burning. Even if fake that still pretty creepy.

about a year ago some recordings surfaced of a mid 60s mission where some Soviet dude was coming down, and there was smoe malfunction or whatever but basically, he was a dead man and knew it.  the story was posted here.

in the thread, people started telling stories like yours, but iwth "my grandad worked at NASA / spied on the Soviets / heard classified recordings", etc., with various horrific claims of like, hearing people die or a mission where they didn't have the right reentry velocity and/or angle and "bounced" off the earth's atmosphere, never to be herad from again.  crazy shiat.


The way the Soviets would "unperson " people that pissed off the top men, its not inconcievable that they would have "unpersoned" people that died in failed missions.
 
2014-03-03 02:17:55 PM  
Though I'm past one hundred thousand miles, I'm feeling very still
And I think my spaceship knows which way to go
Tell my wife I... blub-blub-gurgle-glubglubglub...
Ground control to major Tom, your circuits dead, there's something wrong
Can you hear me, major Tom?
 
2014-03-03 02:51:35 PM  
Sounds like they need a mod to the suit that gives the astronaut a mouthpiece to breathe from, when needed.  As soon as it is engaged, the suite should automatically decouple the suit interior air from the breathing air.  There could be other circumstances where that would make sense, such as an electrical fire in the suit.  The fire could still burn the astronaut and cause problems with vision (eye irritation), but at least he would not be breathing smoke-filled air.  It would also be possible to replace the in-suit air with another mix, such as pure N2 (which would extinguish the fire) as needed.

Suit makers have probably thought of all of this already.
 
2014-03-03 03:00:47 PM  

tillerman35: Sounds like they need a mod to the suit that gives the astronaut a mouthpiece to breathe from, when needed.  As soon as it is engaged, the suite should automatically decouple the suit interior air from the breathing air.  There could be other circumstances where that would make sense, such as an electrical fire in the suit.  The fire could still burn the astronaut and cause problems with vision (eye irritation), but at least he would not be breathing smoke-filled air.  It would also be possible to replace the in-suit air with another mix, such as pure N2 (which would extinguish the fire) as needed.

Suit makers have probably thought of all of this already.


Yeah they did. Of course I now have this image of a spacesuit with a scuba snorkel sticking out of the top, flippers on the boots and blow up water wings on the arms.

\I think I better up my medication when I start thinking things like this.
 
2014-03-03 03:03:43 PM  
I remember diving in a faulty Kirby Morgan and having the helmet fill. Scary shiat, especially when the assholes tending you aren't paying attention to emergency ascent signals you are giving your line. I had to dump weight and swim up manually. Thankfully the surface was only 30 feet away.
 
2014-03-03 03:21:56 PM  
"Don't worry about it Luca, it's probably just urine!"
 
2014-03-03 03:43:07 PM  

Oldiron_79: rickythepenguin: Onkel Buck: Saw this cheesy conspiracy show on Netflix and the one episode was covering a story about two guys who were picking up radio signals from Russian cosmonauts, starting with a heartbeat which was later deteremined to be a dog. Then later on there was one incident where they could hear a womans voice and she was saying she was burning. Even if fake that still pretty creepy.

about a year ago some recordings surfaced of a mid 60s mission where some Soviet dude was coming down, and there was smoe malfunction or whatever but basically, he was a dead man and knew it.  the story was posted here.

in the thread, people started telling stories like yours, but iwth "my grandad worked at NASA / spied on the Soviets / heard classified recordings", etc., with various horrific claims of like, hearing people die or a mission where they didn't have the right reentry velocity and/or angle and "bounced" off the earth's atmosphere, never to be herad from again.  crazy shiat.

The way the Soviets would "unperson " people that pissed off the top men, its not inconcievable that they would have "unpersoned" people that died in failed missions.



Conspiracy Theory time!  This page is a fun read.
 
2014-03-03 03:56:28 PM  

ReverendJynxed: I remember diving in a faulty Kirby Morgan and having the helmet fill. Scary shiat, especially when the assholes tending you aren't paying attention to emergency ascent signals you are giving your line. I had to dump weight and swim up manually. Thankfully the surface was only 30 feet away.


Could have been worse.
 
2014-03-03 04:09:13 PM  

Slypork: We all breathed liquid for 9 months, his body will remember
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Actually, we didn't breath liquid since we weren't breathing.
 
2014-03-03 04:09:21 PM  

rickythepenguin: so if he did paste, i wonder what the protocol is;  does NASA have like, a cold room, or do they just strap him in "weekend at bernie's" style and try to avoid the odor.  or, could he like, in his will say, "if i die in space, i request that my body be sent out viking funeral style"?

or, is mission protocol that they would terminate the mission and come bck home.  curious.


I remember one of the astronauts from the Gemini program talking about the first U.S. EVA.  He said he was called into a private meeting and was told if anything happened to the other astronaut who was outside the capsule, he should leave him tethered and bring him back through re-entry (intentionally reducing him to a cinder).  The reason given was they didn't want a dead astronaut orbiting the earth, seeing as how there were amateur astronomers that track even orbiting space debris for fun.  This was bad news even for the guy in the capsule as the rope was tied to a point inside and leaving the line connected would mean going through re-entry with the door open.
 
2014-03-03 04:12:23 PM  
I'm betting it's because it's a 35-year-old suit. Our space-faring infrastructure is Cold-War era, and we rely on a country we're close to being in another proxy-war with to get us to the ISS and back.

You know how they say "Lead, follow, or get out of the way" -- Well, we're not leading anymore.
 
2014-03-03 04:28:54 PM  

bikerbob59: Slypork: We all breathed liquid for 9 months, his body will remember
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Actually, we didn't breath liquid since we weren't breathing.


Are you really that obtuse or am I being trolled? No, the fetus doesn't "breathe" air. However the lungs move the amniotic fluid in and out in a breathing motion. This starts at approximately the 10th gestational week.
 
2014-03-03 04:32:51 PM  

Oldiron_79: rickythepenguin: Onkel Buck: Saw this cheesy conspiracy show on Netflix and the one episode was covering a story about two guys who were picking up radio signals from Russian cosmonauts, starting with a heartbeat which was later deteremined to be a dog. Then later on there was one incident where they could hear a womans voice and she was saying she was burning. Even if fake that still pretty creepy.

about a year ago some recordings surfaced of a mid 60s mission where some Soviet dude was coming down, and there was smoe malfunction or whatever but basically, he was a dead man and knew it.  the story was posted here.

in the thread, people started telling stories like yours, but iwth "my grandad worked at NASA / spied on the Soviets / heard classified recordings", etc., with various horrific claims of like, hearing people die or a mission where they didn't have the right reentry velocity and/or angle and "bounced" off the earth's atmosphere, never to be herad from again.  crazy shiat.

The way the Soviets would "unperson " people that pissed off the top men, its not inconcievable that they would have "unpersoned" people that died in failed missions.


If you fail in a space mission with 1960's tech, you don't have be unpersoned. That's automatic.
 
2014-03-03 04:47:12 PM  

Slypork: bikerbob59: Slypork: We all breathed liquid for 9 months, his body will remember
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Actually, we didn't breath liquid since we weren't breathing.

Are you really that obtuse or am I being trolled? No, the fetus doesn't "breathe" air. However the lungs move the amniotic fluid in and out in a breathing motion. This starts at approximately the 10th gestational week.


So we all moved amniotic fluid in and out of our lungs for about 7.5 months.

Doesn`t really sound the same. What a way to ruin a good quote.
 
2014-03-03 05:42:24 PM  
My god, its full of... water???
 
2014-03-03 08:43:14 PM  
It was probably just wine.  Also, if he was concerned he should have aborted and gone back in the ship.
 
2014-03-03 09:03:20 PM  

uncleacid: When a goldfish swam by they knew it was serious.


You know which other Italian slept with the fishes?

img4.wikia.nocookie.net
 
2014-03-03 09:36:43 PM  
Just give him a good spin. The water will sling towards the arms. Do I have to think of everything around here?
 
2014-03-03 09:57:02 PM  

MBooda: uncleacid: When a goldfish swam by they knew it was serious.

You know which other Italian slept with the fishes?

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RIP  Andrew Napolitano

 
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