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(Slate)   President Obama's big mistake in the Ukraine situation? Even suggesting there would be "consequences" for Russia if they invade Ukraine, because there are exactly two things we can do about it: jack, and shiat   (slate.com) divider line 24
    More: Obvious, President Obama, Ukraine, Russia, West Berlin, Nikita Khrushchev, Crimean, Russian Navy, Secretary of State John Kerry  
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2014-03-03 01:03:05 PM
3 votes:
Right wingers demand that Obama takes an action immediately so they know sooner what opposite stance to take.
2014-03-03 03:15:32 PM
2 votes:

Almost Everybody Poops: This is more about Putin being a megalomaniac than anything Obama has said or done.


No, this is about "respect", and who Putin would or wouldn't.  Because that's what's really important on the world stage:  Who a Russian strongman would respect.

You wouldn't understand, because you're a libtard and probably a homosexual.  What the US needs is a muscular international presence, one backed by a credible, masculine military that can project its power with deep thrusts into the yielding core of even the most hardened opponent.  That is the only way you can stay on top and show the bear who's boss.
2014-03-03 12:59:12 PM
2 votes:

NeoAnderthal: This reminds me of Bill Clinton constantly wagging his impotent finger at Saddam Hussein. we all saw what that got us. This is exactly why liberals have the deserved reputation for being pussies on the world stage.

Calls us pussies while wetting himself over Putin's unstopable power..... His manly and disturbingly sexual power.

Its a rerun from last night but fark it.

www.quickmeme.com
2014-03-03 08:18:38 PM
1 votes:

ongbok: SunsetLament: Zeppelininthesky: SunsetLament: Zeppelininthesky: SunsetLament: Zeppelininthesky: SunsetLament: Zeppelininthesky: SunsetLament: Zeppelininthesky: SunsetLament: Wow, even Slate is pointing out President Dipshiat's farkups now?  LOL

Which farkups?

You might want to read the thread title before posting.

How is it a farkup to disapprove of Russia massing its military at the border of Ukraine? What specifically would you have Obama do?

Well, either (a) not behave and campaign like a limp wrist for the last 5-6 years, or (b) not threaten something he has absolutely no intention of following through with (again).

Considering there may be sanctions. We get it, you hate Obama no matter what he does.

Oh noes!!!1!!  Not sanctions!!!!  Will there be a sternly worded letter too?

What would you have Obama do, exactly?


1. Dump as many anti-missile systems into Poland and the Czech Republic as they can hold
2. Put a naval fleet in the Black Sea
3. Cut off all diplomatic contact with Russia
4. Statement to the country affirming our 1994 treaty with the Ukraine and that we intend to uphold our obligations
5. Uphold our obligations.

What obligations? You do realize we have literally no interests in the region at all. Ukraine is not a UN country. Putting troops and any American interests in harms way would be foolish. Plus, you would find a way to criticize Obama if he enacted your plan.

It takes a truly stupid person to declare that "we have literally no interests in the region at all."  We hold a treaty with them.  Even if you believe it's a stupid treaty ... demonstrating to the world that we uphold our treaty obligations is an obvious national interest.

We hold no treaty with Ukraine. Your constant insisting that we do shows just how much knowledge you have of the situation and how much credibility your opinions hold.


http://www.larouchepub.com/eiw/public/2014/2014_1-9/2014-08/pdf/34-3 5_ 4108.pdf
2014-03-03 05:41:39 PM
1 votes:
Obama should have learned after he fumbled Syria, to never make threats he will not back up.
2014-03-03 04:52:20 PM
1 votes:

geek_mars: That's some great journalism, right there. First he says there are no "consequences" and Obama was foolish for suggesting there were. Then, he says there are things that the U.S. can do, but suggests Putin won't care. Then he suggests things that Obama should have done but also says Putin might not care about those things, either.

/might get twitter just to follow this intellectual giant


So, you too felt that the author was making unsupportable statements and undermining his own arguments? It's as if he didn't know where he was going and boldly going there.
2014-03-03 04:29:39 PM
1 votes:

BSABSVR: Almost Everybody Poops, meet Cup_O-Jo.


It takes the "Almost" out of that username?
2014-03-03 04:03:23 PM
1 votes:
The American Military Complex doesn't function optimally unless there's a person in charge of a foreign state (or similar organization) onto whom all the idealized attributes of pure evil can be projected.

Tough luck, Kim Jong-Un, you haven't paid enough dues to be a main eventer yet.  For the time being, it's Vladimir "The Russian Bear" Putin that gets to wear the Big Gold Belt formerly held by Bin Laden, Hussein, Khomeini, Gorbachev, Tojo, Hitler, etc.
2014-03-03 04:00:02 PM
1 votes:

Cup_O_Jo: China (owns us)


Jesus christ, do you get your news from your cereal box or the daily show or something?
2014-03-03 02:25:21 PM
1 votes:

Mentat: davynelson: I'm sorry, but what right does the USA have to piss on ANYBODY regarding illegally invading another country?

fark you and your hypocritical bullshiat.

Mind your own business and you'll notice your country is in the crapper.

Hi, I'm Billy Mays!  Are you tired of America lecturing you over their own fark ups?  Have you been enviously eying a chunk of your neighbor only to have a hypocritical America wag its finger at you?  Then you need IraqAway!  IraqAway is the radical new foreign policy that allows you to seize assets from your neighbor without worrying about what America thinks!  So go ahead China, bite off a chunk of Japan.  Kashmir not enough for you India?  Grab whatever pieces of Pakistan you like.  And we haven't forgotten about you Turkey!  This is your chance to put those dreams of a free Kurdistan in the crapper once and for all!  Today only, America farked up and YOU get the prize!  Every ethnic-majority region must go!  Call now and we'll even throw in a free Alsace-Lorraine!  This offer won't last, so act now!


France eyes Quibec.... the rest of Canada seen in the backgound doing a happy dance.
2014-03-03 01:41:40 PM
1 votes:

TV's Vinnie: Believe me. Sooner or later, one way or another, this will end up biting Putin in the ass. Obama never forgets, and Obama keeps score, and payback always happens eventually.


We do not forgive.
We do not forget.
Expect us.
Obamanonymous.
2014-03-03 01:30:45 PM
1 votes:

jchuffyman: Also, as someone whose salary is paid in rubles, I am not enjoying this.


they should pay you in gum! or vodka or gum flavored vodka.
2014-03-03 01:29:24 PM
1 votes:

NeoAnderthal: This reminds me of Bill Clinton constantly wagging his impotent finger at Saddam Hussein. we all saw what that got us. This is exactly why liberals have the deserved reputation for being pussies on the world stage.


Potatoed in the Boobies.
2014-03-03 01:18:21 PM
1 votes:

Isitoveryet: it would be like that scene in Conan the Barbarian (the old one, not the crappy new one) when Conan (Putin) gets seduced by the witch (Palin) who eventually turns into a ball of blue flame & exits the scene when she realizes that Conan has bested her both physically and sexually.

what i'm saying is that Palin is a worthless lash batter.


No lash batter can withstand the Putin baby batter.
2014-03-03 01:13:32 PM
1 votes:
Oh, so now he wants to pretend like he doesn't have a time machine.
2014-03-03 01:02:07 PM
1 votes:

danknerd: Because Ukraine gave up their nukes for protection by the U.S. (and others), if the U.S. doesn't honor the treaty, the U.S.


It's not a treaty.

www.palmtalk.org


According to the memorandum, Russia, the US, and the UK confirmed, in recognition of Ukraine becoming party to the Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons and in effect abandoning its nuclear arsenal to Russia, that they would:

Respect Ukrainian independence and sovereignty within its existing borders. Refrain from the threat or use of force against Ukraine.
Refrain from using economic pressure on Ukraine in order to influence its politics.
Seek United Nations Security Council action if nuclear weapons are used against Ukraine.
Refrain from the use of nuclear arms against Ukraine.
Consult with one another if questions arise regarding these commitments.[6]
2014-03-03 12:54:09 PM
1 votes:

NeoAnderthal: This reminds me of Bill Clinton constantly wagging his impotent finger at Saddam Hussein. we all saw what that got us. This is exactly why liberals have the deserved reputation for being pussies on the world stage.


I really wish these pussy liberals would toughen up and start a war like real republican men.
2014-03-03 12:51:25 PM
1 votes:

pup.socket: Actually, there is a lot Obama and the US can do about it that doesn't involve military action.


Yeah but that doesn't let chickenhawks feel better about having small dicks.
2014-03-03 12:51:13 PM
1 votes:
Monday Morning Obamaphobia Butthurt Brigade in full force.
2014-03-03 12:37:00 PM
1 votes:

clancifer: NeoAnderthal: This reminds me of Bill Clinton constantly wagging his impotent finger at Saddam Hussein. we all saw what that got us. This is exactly why liberals have the deserved reputation for being pussies on the world stage.
It got us not having a trillion+ spent on an unnecessary war? It got us not having 4k dead soldiers and tens of thousands wounded?


If thousands of Soldiers aren't being sent around the world to dig holes and refill them, while we increase the national debt to give Halliburton blank checks, it just isn't a proper military action.

Dumbass liberals want to use boring concepts like technology and diplomacy to resolve conflicts. We're just "pussies" that way.
2014-03-03 12:22:46 PM
1 votes:
This is the dumbest talking point since the last time Obama was talked about.
2014-03-03 10:37:18 AM
1 votes:

WTF Indeed: The Russian economy, and therefore all of Putin's power, is based around the Oligarchs. If the West was the freeze their funds outside of the country and make it extremely hard for them to do business outside of the country, the Russian economy would crumble.


it's already in bad shape. and their markets are down 10 percent today. russia needs foreign investment. this is not going to work out well for putin.
2014-03-03 10:05:19 AM
1 votes:
We still have nukes, don't we?
2014-03-03 09:57:22 AM
1 votes:
This reminds me of Bill Clinton constantly wagging his impotent finger at Saddam Hussein. we all saw what that got us. This is exactly why liberals have the deserved reputation for being pussies on the world stage.
 
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