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(Mets Blog)   Mets to open the 2014 season with a lower payroll than the Royals, Twins and Padres, but assistant GM Ian Faith says not to worry because New York isn't a big baseball town   (metsblog.com) divider line 29
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2014-03-03 10:30:41 AM
The Mets will still have a payroll of $84.5m. For comparison, that's the same payroll as the Cubs.
 
2014-03-03 10:47:00 AM
LOL Marlins and Astros.

Like with other sports, the MLB should also have a *minimum* required payroll. Need to shake out the owners who only own teams so they can use them for tax loopholes.
 
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2014-03-03 10:47:37 AM

WTF Indeed: The Mets will still have a payroll of $84.5m. For comparison, that's the same payroll as the Cubs.


The Cubs aren't paying Bobby Bonilla this year.
 
2014-03-03 10:48:12 AM

WTF Indeed: The Mets will still have a payroll of $84.5m. For comparison, that's the same payroll as the Cubs.




KC's payroll will be around 92 million. We are barely outspending the Mets subby. Also are payroll is a team record. Which is sadder then the Mets lower payroll.
 
2014-03-03 10:52:18 AM

WTF Indeed: The Mets will still have a payroll of $84.5m. For comparison, that's the same payroll as the Cubs.


I hate reading Met's blogs.  The fans want the team to spend money just because "NYC is a large market, we shouldn't have a low payroll."

The reason the Mets are in the position they are in now is because they spent boatloads of cash on crappy contracts that hamstrung them when better players were available.  If we are in contention in July, then lets talk about increasing payroll.  Stephen Drew at $12M/year isn't a wise investment, no matter how bad our shortstop is currently.
 
2014-03-03 11:00:25 AM
I wonder why they are on such a shoestring?

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2014-03-03 11:00:52 AM
The difference between most of those teams is just a single free agent signing, so it's not that great a disparity.
 
2014-03-03 11:06:46 AM

LemSkroob: LOL Marlins and Astros.

Like with other sports, the MLB should also have a *minimum* required payroll. Need to shake out the owners who only own teams so they can use them for tax loopholes.


I'm not sure about that.  The reason MLB has such disparate payrolls is because young players are so ridiculously underpaid.  I mean, Mike Trout just broke the record for richest pre-arbitration contract and he's only making $1m.  Compare that to Eric Fisher's $5m/yr or Anthony Bennett's $5-6m.

If they established a salary floor, that money isn't going to go to young players like it probably should.  It's just going to make the veteran contracts bigger.  And it's not like teams can't win with low payrolls or constantly spend cheaply.  There's usually a pattern of being cheap until you can start winning and then building payroll back up.
 
2014-03-03 11:15:24 AM
Remember all those years when the Mets had the second-highest payroll in baseball, behind only the Yankees, only to get knocked out of playoff contention in mid-August? Good times, good times.
 
2014-03-03 11:21:22 AM
I don't see a problem with pennants being racy.
 
2014-03-03 11:26:26 AM

LemSkroob: LOL Marlins and Astros.


I counter with LOL Phillies.
 
2014-03-03 11:51:37 AM
Could have used at least one more big bat this offseason. Instead we reached on Chris Young, and some old farks in the bullpen. We'll see how that works out, but starting the season with Tejada at short, and no clear answer at first (Duda or Davis?) is not a good start.
 
2014-03-03 12:25:58 PM

mrjared: Could have used at least one more big bat this offseason. Instead we reached on Chris Young, and some old farks in the bullpen. We'll see how that works out, but starting the season with Tejada at short, and no clear answer at first (Duda or Davis?) is not a good start.


I like the idea of Chris Young.  A guy who can play all over the outfield who plays good defense, has some talent with the bat, and is coming off a bad year and maybe could bounce back.  And 7.5m really is nothing.  I just think Chris Young, specifically, sucks.  I hope I'm wrong.

One more big bat would be nice, but don't let anyone fool you into thinking Cruz was the answer.  He's old, completely useless in the field, and his power numbers were greatly helped by Texas.

Also, Tejada's worth a look.  He played alright shortstop for two straight years at the ages of 21 and 22.
 
2014-03-03 12:58:52 PM
Probably better for them to be spending that amount and failing than being of the top 5 spenders in the league and failing. Which they were doing pretty recently.

\Throwing money at the problem ALWAYS fixes it.
\\Isn't that right, Cubs fans?
 
2014-03-03 01:29:05 PM
Meh. It's still a rebuild and Harvey's out anyway. If they don't open the vault more next year, then I'll be more concerned.

I'm also not too concerned about Chris Young. It's just a 1-year deal, and $7ish million isn't a ton these days. Not much risk in that deal.
 
2014-03-03 02:02:32 PM

LemSkroob: LOL Marlins and Astros.


The Astros are in a rebuilding phase, no reason to laugh at them. The Marlins, on the other hand, are owned by an unscrupulous weasel who is being watched closely by MLB and, probably, the IRS. Personally I think Jeffery Loria (the Marlin's owner) should be banned from baseball, but that's just my opinion (but I doubt I'm alone in this).

Like with other sports, the MLB should also have a *minimum* required payroll. Need to shake out the owners who only own teams so they can use them for tax loopholes.

If a team fields a lot of young players their payroll is going to be low. This is the way the Collective Bargaining Agreement structures payroll. It is also what makes it possible for small market teams to be competitive. Your point is well taken though - there are examples of team owners who walk that line and MLB is very slow to respond.
 
2014-03-03 02:05:00 PM
On one hand, I'm sad that the White Sox payroll is almost half of Detroit's. On the other hand, I haven't been to a game in two years, so I can't complain.

/I had free tickets through my daughter being in the kid's club last year, but we still didn't go. I'll try to be a better fan this year.
 
2014-03-03 02:19:12 PM
that list doesn't scream "LOL Marlins/Astros" to me as much as it does "WTF Phillies?!"
 
2014-03-03 02:58:38 PM

The Bestest: that list doesn't scream "LOL Marlins/Astros" to me as much as it does "WTF Phillies?!"


That is what happens when you "maintain your core of veteran players" when you shouldn't.
Phillies fans should be really, really, really grateful for the expanded wild card format.
On the bright side, fans will get to see a lot of young players when the DL starts to fill up.
 
2014-03-03 05:00:28 PM
Twins are outspending Mets by less than $2 million.  Meanwhile, they're paying Joe Mauer $23 million, or a little over 30% of their total payroll.  Without Mauer's contract, they would have the 3rd lowest payroll.
 
2014-03-03 06:34:13 PM

red5ish: The Bestest: that list doesn't scream "LOL Marlins/Astros" to me as much as it does "WTF Phillies?!"

That is what happens when you "maintain your core of veteran players" when you shouldn't.
Phillies fans should be really, really, really grateful for the expanded wild card format.
On the bright side, fans will get to see a lot of young players when the DL starts to fill up.


I think baseball fans should point at this year's Phillies as a counter to the local fans who whine and complain about teams losing their best players to free agency/being traded because they're about to be free agents. Similarly, the Twins made a big deal of locking up Mauer and Morneau. It didn't work out for them. And it's not like losing out on Johan Santana and Francisco Liriano ended up being terrible for them.
 
2014-03-03 06:39:52 PM
Methinks the Tigers are over-paying the talent they have relative to the results they have been getting (not by a massive amount, but they should be getting better results for what they are paying out).
 
2014-03-03 06:43:43 PM

pearls before swine: Twins are outspending Mets by less than $2 million.  Meanwhile, they're paying Joe Mauer $23 million, or a little over 30% of their total payroll.  Without Mauer's contract, they would have the 3rd lowest payroll.


Now *that* is a case of over-paying someone relative to on-field performance. $10-15 million, sure, but $23 million? That was a case of ownership getting baffled by the bullshiat and deciding to back up the money truck.
 
2014-03-03 06:57:23 PM

ClavellBCMI: Methinks the Tigers are over-paying the talent they have relative to the results they have been getting (not by a massive amount, but they should be getting better results for what they are paying out).


Illitch, being one foot in the grave, is desperate for a title before he croaks.
 
2014-03-03 07:16:13 PM
The "Happy Meal" payroll here in Tampa somehow always produces enough "unknowns" to stay relevant in the East. David Price is gone by the All Star break and they will bring up some phenom from AA and plug him in.
 
2014-03-03 09:42:01 PM

ClavellBCMI: Methinks the Tigers are over-paying the talent they have relative to the results they have been getting (not by a massive amount, but they should be getting better results for what they are paying out).


It could be worse.  They could be the Angels or Phillies.
 
2014-03-04 12:41:43 AM
The Mets will exceed expectations this year.  Rather than spend money on long-term deals for expiring contracts, the team has made some great trades to acquire young talent.  The pitching staff will be the envy of MLB in two years.  Getting something in return for those passed over in position battles this Spring Training and having a good off-season in the free agent market next year will equip the team for a playoff run in 2015.
 
2014-03-04 03:09:34 AM

Curt Blizzah: The Mets will exceed expectations this year.  Rather than spend money on long-term deals for expiring contracts, the team has made some great trades to acquire young talent.  The pitching staff will be the envy of MLB in two years.  Getting something in return for those passed over in position battles this Spring Training and having a good off-season in the free agent market next year will equip the team for a playoff run in 2015.


The Twins are going to be good in 2015 too. ;-}
 
2014-03-04 07:35:36 AM

Curt Blizzah: The Mets will exceed expectations this year.  Rather than spend money on long-term deals for expiring contracts, the team has made some great trades to acquire young talent.  The pitching staff will be the envy of MLB in two years.  Getting something in return for those passed over in position battles this Spring Training and having a good off-season in the free agent market next year will equip the team for a playoff run in 2015.


Except you are in the same division with the Braves and Nationals, who seem to have an UNENDING stream of talent coming up. And you almost HAVE to win your division, as there are several good playoff contenders in the NL.

And let's not forget that the dirty semi-secret of both the NFL and MLB is that every single one of these bastards are making money BEFORE they sell a ticket.  MLB rakes in so much from the FOX package, all the merchandising, and especially now all the digital packages like MLB.tv, its pathetic.
 
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