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(Montgomery Police Reporter)   Not news: Woman detained for shoplifting at Walmart. Maybe news: Also charged meth possession. Fark: Also charged with having sex with her brother after they were caught making out through the bars of their adjoining cells   (montgomerycountypolicereporter.com) divider line 123
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2014-03-03 01:20:45 PM  

mr smart the great: its not incest if she is just a step sister............ or in his case he could be the adopted one


LOOP HOLES!!


They both have the same mother via blood.
 
2014-03-03 01:28:22 PM  

shortymac: jim32rr: shortymac: jim32rr: gfid: KidneyStone: It boggles my my how anyone could think using meth is a good idea.  Or heroin.  Or crack.

I sometimes think about it.   I wouldn't want to be an addict though.  I'm sure no one tries any of those drugs thinking they'll end up "needing" them every day.

The thing is it's probably much easier to give in to the temptation to try a drug if it's often available.  True story, bro.  I once took a hit off a crack pipe.  I think it was cashed because I didn't feel anything and it just tasted metallic.  I was drunk and had been unsuccessful at scoring any pot that night and it was offered to me.

Crack seems like a really bad idea, but the person who handed me the crack pipe wouldn't smoke pot because of employment drug tests.  That's farked up.

If heroin were made legal and over the counter I could maybe see getting in to that.  Apparently most of the problems with heroin have to do with scoring it and not knowing how it's cut and how pure it is and dirty needles.  And I have loved all the opiates I've consumed.  I've somehow managed not to get a habit, but

I'd probably prefer just to smoke some opium though.  I guess until I built up a tolerance and needed MORE!

/had some opium many years ago and it was awesome.
//not anything like pot, but the cool thing is the pipe we smoked it from was used for pot and all the pot we smoked out of it tasted like opium for at least a month

I'm a disabled vet sitting here in pain and going through withdrawals at the same time from running out of my pain medicine of choice, Vicodin. So farked then

Get thee to either Washington or Colorado my friend.

Pot isn't the panacea hippies claim it to me but at the very least you won't go through withdrawal.

I tried that once before with a local Voodoo Doctor .... paranoia will destroy you. Very different stuff from what I enjoyed in my youth, must be missing the paraquat.

The trick is to either eat it or vap it in SMALL amounts. I would also lo ...


Thanks for the ProTip, sorry for the thread jacking. Back to the incest, that's why we're here
 
2014-03-03 01:36:36 PM  
They're idiots, e.g., don't agree to a car search unless you know it's clean, but I see nothing immoral in their relationship. Half-siblings are no more related than first cousins, which is even legal in about half the states, and even first-degree relatedness matters naught when they don't reproduce. If it's okay for consenting adults to do extreme BDSM why forbid incest?
 
2014-03-03 01:44:31 PM  

The One True TheDavid: They're idiots, e.g., don't agree to a car search unless you know it's clean, but I see nothing immoral in their relationship. Half-siblings are no more related than first cousins, which is even legal in about half the states, and even first-degree relatedness matters naught when they don't reproduce. If it's okay for consenting adults to do extreme BDSM why forbid incest?


Uh...I think if you share the same mother then you are more related than first cousins who, by definition, share the same grandmother.
 
2014-03-03 01:47:51 PM  

VladTheEmailer: The One True TheDavid: They're idiots, e.g., don't agree to a car search unless you know it's clean, but I see nothing immoral in their relationship. Half-siblings are no more related than first cousins, which is even legal in about half the states, and even first-degree relatedness matters naught when they don't reproduce. If it's okay for consenting adults to do extreme BDSM why forbid incest?

Uh...I think if you share the same mother then you are more related than first cousins who, by definition, share the same grandmother.


Shhh, don't tell him that. He's banging his half sister, and needs to believe this.
 
2014-03-03 01:53:03 PM  
i.imgur.com

You have never slept as peacefully.
 
2014-03-03 02:04:43 PM  
Oh brother. Well, that's enough Internet for today.

/and I just got here
//thanks Obama
 
2014-03-03 02:08:52 PM  

Witness99: Oh brother.



That's what she said!
 
2014-03-03 02:38:25 PM  

al's hat: Witness99: Oh brother.


That's what she said!


Well, you just got my vote.
 
2014-03-03 03:54:05 PM  

shortymac: Mid_mo_mad_man: I wonder how often someone is charged for sexual conduct with a adult sibling. I wouldn't think it's a common thing*.

* With the exception of Kansas of course.

The problem with incest, even among Adults, is that there are power dynamics at play that can fark with your head. Parent-child and older sibling-younger sibling relationships are inherently unbalanced.


Not really.  Most incidences of adult incest are a result of GSA, i.e. people reuniting after being separated for the part of their lives where power dynamics form.

Moreover, you have the issue with grooming the children to think that this is normal. It's a boundary you shouldn't step over.

Is this along the lines of "gay parents will make their kids gay?"  Because that's nonsense.

Then finally you have issues with inbreeding, which can result in horrific deformities.

The genetic dangers of isolated inbreeding/backbreeding in human beings are highly overblown.  The two in the article have less to worry about in terms of having unhealthy children than a couple over 40.  Repeated inbreeding is highly dangerous, but also astronomically unlikely to result from GSA couples.

The One True TheDavid: Half-siblings are no more related than first cousins


Actually, they're "twice as related" on average. They are between 0 and 50% homozygous, (average 25%) while first cousins are between 0 and 25% homozygous.  However it is correct to say that they are "no more related" than double cousins, (i.e. the children of you and your brother, when your brother marries your wife's sister).

The One True TheDavid: I see nothing immoral in their relationship.


Also, I agree with this. No abuse of underage family members = none of anyone's goddamned business.
 
2014-03-03 04:15:45 PM  
Elbow sex.
 
2014-03-03 04:16:05 PM  

Tyrone Slothrop: whosits_112: cchris_39: Buggar: Its called mental disorder. And there are kids involved so it sucks.

They use to say that about gays.

I'm gonna go with "they are consenting adults and it's nobody else's business".

Actually, unlike being gay, sister/brother f*ckin' is a mental disorder. I'm pretty sure that human brains are wired up so that siblings are meant to be repulsive in that regards, so as to limit inbreeding, and therefore causing sever birth defects in children.

I'm all for "let consenting adults do what they want", but even I think this goes beyond and should be a no-no.

Not true, prohibitions against incest are a social constraint, not something that's genetically wired.


It's actually not that clear-cut.  The incest taboo is certainly a social phenomenon, and is not universal across cultures.  However, there is some evidence that we have an inbuilt psychological mechanism that keeps us from finding certain people attractive.  It's not based on consanguinity, but rather on proximity during formative years.

The result is that since most people who have sibs (or parents) are raised with them, most people are sexually desensitized to their "close" relatives.  It's normal to find your sister "icky" despite the fact that she is likely to have many traits that you'd normally find attractive in a person: similar facial structure, eye color, hair color, and particularly body odor.  We then project that ickiness outward as a social norm and ostracize those who don't conform, in much the same way that we have done with homosexuality.  Most of the religious and pseudo-scientific justifications you hear for the taboo are just rationalizations for an emotional aversion resulting from a lack of empathy.

Because over 100K kids are adopted into non-genetically-related families each year, and grow up apart from their blood sibs and parents, a significant number of reunions occur that are likely to produce relationships that defy this norm.  Something like 50% of reunited sibs report strong sexual feelings for one another if they were separated at a young enough age.  It's become fairly widespread, and scientists have coined the term "Genetic Sexual Attraction" to help describe and differentiate it from incest, which carries the connotation of child abuse.

You are  correct though, that there's really no logical reason that these people should be ostracized.  They don't pose a significant danger to society.  We should just leave them alone.
 
2014-03-03 04:42:56 PM  
but i've been reassured here on fark that meth has got a bad rap.  it's not that bad at all.

/don't care if i'm late
/meth is bad  mmm k
 
2014-03-03 04:57:20 PM  

inner ted: but i've been reassured here on fark that meth has got a bad rap.  it's not that bad at all.

/don't care if i'm late
/meth is bad  mmm k


People on here on Fark also claim that heroin isn't that bad, it is bad heroin that is bad.
 
2014-03-03 05:04:20 PM  

Z-clipped: Tyrone Slothrop: whosits_112: cchris_39: Buggar: Its called mental disorder. And there are kids involved so it sucks.

They use to say that about gays.

I'm gonna go with "they are consenting adults and it's nobody else's business".

Actually, unlike being gay, sister/brother f*ckin' is a mental disorder. I'm pretty sure that human brains are wired up so that siblings are meant to be repulsive in that regards, so as to limit inbreeding, and therefore causing sever birth defects in children.

I'm all for "let consenting adults do what they want", but even I think this goes beyond and should be a no-no.

Not true, prohibitions against incest are a social constraint, not something that's genetically wired.

It's actually not that clear-cut.  The incest taboo is certainly a social phenomenon, and is not universal across cultures.  However, there is some evidence that we have an inbuilt psychological mechanism that keeps us from finding certain people attractive.  It's not based on consanguinity, but rather on proximity during formative years.

The result is that since most people who have sibs (or parents) are raised with them, most people are sexually desensitized to their "close" relatives.  It's normal to find your sister "icky" despite the fact that she is likely to have many traits that you'd normally find attractive in a person: similar facial structure, eye color, hair color, and particularly body odor.  We then project that ickiness outward as a social norm and ostracize those who don't conform, in much the same way that we have done with homosexuality.  Most of the religious and pseudo-scientific justifications you hear for the taboo are just rationalizations for an emotional aversion resulting from a lack of empathy.

Because over 100K kids are adopted into non-genetically-related families each year, and grow up apart from their blood sibs and parents, a significant number of reunions occur that are likely to produce relationships that defy this norm.  Somethi ...


It didn't actually say if these two half-siblings grew up together or not. If they did then I'd be worried about a possible mental problem existing in order to overcome the built-in repulsion that would normally be there.

If not, well as long as they don't ever reproduce with each other, not a huge deal. But I certainly would feel happier if they'd stop sharing the same bed with the twin daughters.

For that matter, has anyone checked who the father of those little kids is?
 
2014-03-03 05:15:57 PM  

Nidiot: It didn't actually say if these two half-siblings grew up together or not. If they did then I'd be worried about a possible mental problem existing in order to overcome the built-in repulsion that would normally be there.


FTA: Ellet was then removed and taken back to another office and questioned about the strange relationship. She told them she was adopted and had the same biological mother but a different father. She stated that Beck had been in prison and they had been writing each other.

Adopted, so most likely they didn't grow up together.

Nidiot: If not, well as long as they don't ever reproduce with each other, not a huge deal.


I'd be more worried about the fact that they're drug addicts than the fact that they're related when it comes to having kids.
 
2014-03-03 05:16:36 PM  
I thought if two people loved each other...
 
2014-03-03 05:46:59 PM  

shortymac: Mid_mo_mad_man: I wonder how often someone is charged for sexual conduct with a adult sibling. I wouldn't think it's a common thing*.

* With the exception of Kansas of course.

The problem with incest, even among Adults, is that there are power dynamics at play that can fark with your head. Parent-child and older sibling-younger sibling relationships are inherently unbalanced.

Moreover, you have the issue with grooming the children to think that this is normal. It's a boundary you shouldn't step over.

Then finally you have issues with inbreeding, which can result in horrific deformities.


Even leaving out the issues of inbreeding, which some people are arguing are not as problematic as claimed, the power imbalance is enough for me to consider it to be as much of a no-go area as doctor/patient or teacher/student type relationships.

I just recently heard of a case where it was claimed that the relationship was a 'consensual one between adults', except it turned out the girl was first molested by her older sibling when she was thirteen. It makes me wonder if she would have consented to sex with her sibling as an adult, had she not been molested while in her formative years.

I'm in favour of adults doing anything they want with other consenting adults, but please leave children and animals well out of it.
 
2014-03-03 08:09:24 PM  
Approves.
 
2014-03-03 08:24:41 PM  

shortymac: They both have the same mother via blood.


Or DNA even
 
2014-03-03 09:10:26 PM  

Mell of a Hess: whosits_112: gfid: is it worse to have sex with a 300 pound black dude named Bubba than your sister when you're in prison?

You guys do what you want, I'll be with my sister.

Man, that's a tough call. How about "neither"? Is "neither" ok? Is that an option? Because if it isn't, I think I'll just cut off my junk, k?

That won't deter Bubba.


So you get your sister to sleep with Bubba, problem solved.
 
2014-03-03 10:04:35 PM  
But if I find brother-on-brother sex revolting, I'm homophobic, right?
 
2014-03-04 09:03:46 AM  

Alleyoop: But if I find brother-on-brother sex revolting, I'm homophobic, right?


or racist.
 
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