Delawheredad: Jerry, a huge portion of the population right NOW is stoned. Society functions well despite the stoners not because of it
RobSeace: borg: MaudlinMutantMollusk: Oh, him? He's harmless. Back in the sixties, he was part of the free speech movement at Berkeley/I think he did a little too much LDSJerry Brown was never part of the free speech movement at Berkeley he graduated in 1961 and was long gone not to mention his dad was governor of California at the time and he would not have wanted to harm his father's chances for reelection or a run for president. Brown is an out of touch moron who will sadly be reelected to a 4th term as governor. I'd rather see Gavin Newsome in that office.*WOOOSH*That was the sound of two humpback whales flying over your head...
MaudlinMutantMollusk: Oh, him? He's harmless. Back in the sixties, he was part of the free speech movement at Berkeley/I think he did a little too much LDS
TuteTibiImperes: I'd say it's more of a cultural shift than an ideological one. Younger voters are pushing for legalization because it doesn't have the negative stigma to them that it does to the boomers.
Triumph: whidbey: As if anyone needed any additional proof that Jerry Brown is full of shiat, or that he does not speak for progressives.Legalizing pot has never been on the liberal agenda, but it has been a libertarian talking point for decades.
PawisBetlog: MayoSlather: Sgygus: The state exists for the good of the individual in these here United States, not the other way around. You are speaking like a fascist, Governor Brown.This seems to be lost politicians and big business. The population exists only as a pool of resources to them, and the idea people may not want to participate in their machine scares them. Marijuana poses no real threat in this regard, but it's funny how they squirm at the idea it might.Furthermore, personal liberty should always trump what government believes is best for us, as it relates to our own personal choices and the risks we willingly expose ourselves to.Until it potentially has a negative impact on your fellow man, then there needs to be a collective discussion and decision about it because we are a society, not a landmass with 300 million individual states.If your exposing yourself to risks by extension exposes ME to risks, don't you think I should have some say in the matter? If not why not?
TwistedFark: MayoSlather: This is largely a giant equivocation trying to hide behind pragmatism.I get that you doubt my sincerity, but my points can't be so easily dismissed. I already said I support decriminalization, I just would like it to be done, oh I don't know, better than we usually do things - which is fark all thought into it and badly.
TwistedFark: Think of it this way, he's using the scientific method and collecting empirical evidence before issuing another experiment. I think this is a smart thing to do.
Notabunny: I don't think Brown is the least bit disingenuous or insincere. My guess is that he'll watch Colorado and Washington for a couple of years before taking a firm policy position.
whidbey: As if anyone needed any additional proof that Jerry Brown is full of shiat, or that he does not speak for progressives.
Peki: Radak: whidbey: CauseI HATE YOUI BERATE YOUAnd I can't wait to get to you!AlaMEEda?Nuclear wessels./even Chekov got the nuclear part right though. :p
Triumph: Triumph: whidbey: As if anyone needed any additional proof that Jerry Brown is full of shiat, or that he does not speak for progressives.Legalizing pot has never been on the liberal agenda, but it has been a libertarian talking point for decades.I don't mean to suggest there aren't plenty of liberals who want to see it legalized, just that if it was a big priority of "progressives," it would have been legalized long ago in states more "progressive" than Colorado and countries more progressive than the U.S. I think it's a confluence of moderates that made it happen, not radicals.
TuteTibiImperes: MaudlinMutantMollusk:/I think he did a little too much LDSHe's a mormon?
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