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(DC Media Group)   Students to Obama: Take this pipeline and shove it up your ass   (dcmediagroup.us) divider line 166
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2014-03-03 12:47:03 AM  
You're drilling for some dirty crude, subby. What is it with college students always acting like f*cking retards? Go get high, drunk, and have a lot of sex or something. Maybe learn something or watch the news, Obama's cautious stance is the only reason the pipeline hasn't been built already. But yes, ziptie yourself to the President's fence and act like fools anyway. You're in college, therefore you're excused from critical thinking.
 
2014-03-03 12:52:58 AM  
Yeah, because it's Obama that's driving the bus on this issue.
 
2014-03-03 01:04:44 AM  
This is a little ironic considering taxes from the pipeline are going to pay for social services I'm sure are near and dear to these students' hearts.  Also, something has to pay for that research into renewable energy, and it's not renewable energy.
 
2014-03-03 01:10:56 AM  
Yes, because "student activists" who have never had a job in their lives and whose total knowledge on the subject of climate change is having watched An Inconvenient Truth while stoned are my go-to sources for political leadership.  What they didn't have the time to whip together a few papier mache puppets to have them wallow in the oil spill tarp to hike up the drama a bit?
 
2014-03-03 01:11:14 AM  
Purple hair is apparently trendy now.
 
2014-03-03 01:17:37 AM  
why isnt the keystone pipeline using existing right of ways that all the other existing pipelines currently use ??
seriously

people against the new pipeline know that there are millions of miles of existing pipelines in the country already, right?
 
2014-03-03 01:24:52 AM  

namatad: why isnt the keystone pipeline using existing right of ways that all the other existing pipelines currently use ??


Because it's new?  I don't understand what you're asking.  Right of way is granted by a landowner or public entity, but it's usually measured in inches on either side of a pipeline.  You can't just plop another pipe next to an existing one without a new right of way.
 
2014-03-03 02:27:25 AM  
Boy, the 101st Keyboardist Brigade hit this thread hard and fast.
 
2014-03-03 02:36:03 AM  

Mentat: Boy, the 101st Keyboardist Brigade hit this thread hard and fast.


The generational butthurt is strong with these Farkers.
 
2014-03-03 02:46:13 AM  

Peki: Mentat: Boy, the 101st Keyboardist Brigade hit this thread hard and fast.

The generational butthurt is strong with these Farkers.


Indeed
 
2014-03-03 02:47:17 AM  
Are they gonna let us wheeze the ju-uice?
 
2014-03-03 02:47:49 AM  
Students are going to be awfully miffed when the rail cares carrying oil to the same refinery in the US blows up at their school because there was no pipeline.  It will happen because Karma is a biatch.
 
2014-03-03 02:48:58 AM  

Mentat: Boy, the 101st Keyboardist Brigade hit this thread hard and fast.


Three of the first four posts here are flagged in tard pink. My question is, are the apologists paid by the petrol company or are they doing it for free?
 
2014-03-03 02:52:16 AM  

tbeatty: Students are going to be awfully miffed when the rail cares carrying oil to the same refinery in the US blows up at their school because there was no pipeline.  It will happen because Karma is a biatch.


More or less upset than when the pipeline contaminates into the groundwater?
 
2014-03-03 02:54:25 AM  
Word is that Fartbongo can bogart a pipe like a champ. While he may cash the stash, he throws out a few good turd nuggets of wisdom. Just rememer, he's an ace player of a shiat game whose rules were written by the top. 01% before he even created a character sheet.
 
2014-03-03 02:57:16 AM  
Is this one of those threads where we have to pretend what this kids think has value simply because "they are getting involved!" or "they are so engaged!" or "this is the smartest most politically savvy generation of all time!"

It's a handful of dopey kids that took ten minutes away from sitting in their dorm rooms watching SpongeBob Squarepants and putting on the freshman fifteen to go out an "make a difference" regarding a subject they know absolutely nothing about other than having watched a YouTube video made by a different dopey kid sitting in his dorm room.  They are less than a dime a dozen.
 
2014-03-03 03:05:18 AM  

SunsetLament: Is this one of those threads where we have to pretend what this kids think has value simply because "they are getting involved!" or "they are so engaged!" or "this is the smartest most politically savvy generation of all time!"

It's a handful of dopey kids that took ten minutes away from sitting in their dorm rooms watching SpongeBob Squarepants and putting on the freshman fifteen to go out an "make a difference" regarding a subject they know absolutely nothing about other than having watched a YouTube video made by a different dopey kid sitting in his dorm room.  They are less than a dime a dozen.


So...pretty much the college version of Tea Bagger activists, eh?
 
2014-03-03 03:12:03 AM  
must have been finals week. would have done anything to get out of finals week. cept maybe milk a cat....
 
2014-03-03 03:17:04 AM  

DeArmondVI: SunsetLament: Is this one of those threads where we have to pretend what this kids think has value simply because "they are getting involved!" or "they are so engaged!" or "this is the smartest most politically savvy generation of all time!"

It's a handful of dopey kids that took ten minutes away from sitting in their dorm rooms watching SpongeBob Squarepants and putting on the freshman fifteen to go out an "make a difference" regarding a subject they know absolutely nothing about other than having watched a YouTube video made by a different dopey kid sitting in his dorm room.  They are less than a dime a dozen.

So...pretty much the college version of Tea Bagger activists, eh?


That would explain why Sunset is so intimately familiar with their motivations and daily activities.
 
2014-03-03 03:19:55 AM  

unlikely: Mentat: Boy, the 101st Keyboardist Brigade hit this thread hard and fast.

Three of the first four posts here are flagged in tard pink. My question is, are the apologists paid by the petrol company or are they doing it for free?


Since you decided to quote one of the first four, he must not be in "tard pink"? Therefore I'm a paid petrol apologist or something? Go chain yourself to the Whitehouse lawn, like a good pink tard. I support the President for stopping Keystone XL and feel no need to shiat on his lawn. If Canada wants to put their tar shiat on the market they can pipe it across their pristine British Colombia and not our bread basket.
 
2014-03-03 03:23:22 AM  
That oil,one way or another, is coming out of the ground. It will either

(1) Go to China via Ship
(2) Go to the US via Rail (a MUCH more dangerous option)
(3) Go to the US via Pipeline.

Pick one.
 
2014-03-03 03:29:38 AM  
I don't really get why this pipeline is such a big deal compared to all the others.
 
2014-03-03 03:31:50 AM  

TheZorker: That oil,one way or another, is coming out of the ground. It will either

(1) Go to China via Ship
(2) Go to the US via Rail (a MUCH more dangerous option)
(3) Go to the US via Pipeline.

Pick one.


This. No one is going to stop the oil from being pumped. No one. Ever. We can either build the pipeline and get it ourselves in the safest way we know, use a more unsafe method, or let the Chinese have it. Now you might not think any of those options are good. But two of them are far worse than the other.
 
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2014-03-03 03:32:23 AM  
It gives them something to do.  Not like they're out looking for jobs anyway.

 
2014-03-03 03:34:04 AM  

TheZorker: That oil,one way or another, is coming out of the ground. It will either

(1) Go to China via Ship
(2) Go to the US via Rail (a MUCH more dangerous option)
(3) Go to the US via Pipeline.

Pick one.


It's still winding up in China from the pipleline, so I'd just as soon have Canada barge it away.
 
2014-03-03 03:36:59 AM  
Whatever it takes. This government will do the right thing if enough get on board with a renewable energy future.
 
2014-03-03 03:42:50 AM  

whidbey: Whatever it takes. This government will do the right thing

for their own interests if enough get on board with a renewable energy future.

I love the idea of microwave power from a solar strip around the moon (or whatever it takes) but its not politically expedient enough.

www-tc.pbs.org

'Why aren't we going to Mars? There's no monetary, political or military pressure to do it'
 
2014-03-03 03:48:32 AM  

tfresh: This government will do the right thing

for their own interest


Fair enough. This particular government's "interests" ultimately include a populace satisfied that their government did the right thing despite pressure from Big Oil.
 
2014-03-03 03:50:25 AM  
I can't believe how misguided and easily fooled these kids are.

The climate is already screwed and the existence or lack thereof of this pipeline will have no effect on that.
 
2014-03-03 03:53:51 AM  

Scythed: I can't believe how misguided and easily fooled these kids are.

The climate is already screwed and the existence or lack thereof of this pipeline will have no effect on that.


Actually, mainstream science has many recommendations, including the reduction of greenhouse gases by using less fossil fuel. Thanks for playing.
 
2014-03-03 03:55:30 AM  

tfresh: I love the idea of microwave power from a solar strip around the moon (or whatever it takes) but its not politically expedient enough.

'Why aren't we going to Mars? There's no monetary, political or military pressure to do it'


But there is another pressure you do not know about....me.
 
2014-03-03 03:56:32 AM  

mr lawson: tfresh: I love the idea of microwave power from a solar strip around the moon (or whatever it takes) but its not politically expedient enough.

'Why aren't we going to Mars? There's no monetary, political or military pressure to do it'

But there is another pressure you do not know about....me.


Honestly, if you've got a way to strongarm these guys you aren't telling us about, I'd like to hear about it.

Mars would be awesome.
 
2014-03-03 03:57:59 AM  

gadian: TheZorker: That oil,one way or another, is coming out of the ground. It will either

(1) Go to China via Ship
(2) Go to the US via Rail (a MUCH more dangerous option)
(3) Go to the US via Pipeline.

Pick one.

It's still winding up in China from the pipleline, so I'd just as soon have Canada barge it away.


Seriously. If Canada wants to sell this gawdawful crap to the Chinese, let them fark up their own groundwater to do it. It ain't worth the 37 jobs.
 
2014-03-03 04:02:27 AM  

whidbey: Honestly, if you've got a way to strongarm these guys you aren't telling us about, I'd like to hear about it.

Mars would be awesome.


Simple really...fark them
See...my degree is not in aerospace, nor computer science, nor military even though I know these subjects (self-taught and served)
No...my degree is in Econ/political science.
I don't need nor want their help.
I am raising the money myself and plan to do it without their help.
I will be seeking like minded individuals to come along for the ride.
Like I said, I am using their system (capitalism) against them.
It is quite poetic.
 
2014-03-03 04:05:00 AM  

DeArmondVI: SunsetLament: Is this one of those threads where we have to pretend what this kids think has value simply because "they are getting involved!" or "they are so engaged!" or "this is the smartest most politically savvy generation of all time!"

It's a handful of dopey kids that took ten minutes away from sitting in their dorm rooms watching SpongeBob Squarepants and putting on the freshman fifteen to go out an "make a difference" regarding a subject they know absolutely nothing about other than having watched a YouTube video made by a different dopey kid sitting in his dorm room.  They are less than a dime a dozen.

So...pretty much the college version of Tea Bagger activists, eh?


It must annoy the shiat out of you that, without the Tea Party, the liberals would still have complete control of the Federal government (and the majority of state legislatures); you could ban guns; you could raise taxes; you could funnel more money to unions.  Instead?  You can't do dick.  Thanks Tea Party!
 
2014-03-03 04:05:10 AM  
Also, student activism pretty much ended the war in Vietnam and Apartheid and got civil rights passed in this country as well as women's rights, so all you folks screaming "Get off Obama's lawn!" can just shut it.
 
2014-03-03 04:06:09 AM  

tbeatty: Students are going to be awfully miffed when the rail cares carrying oil to the same refinery in the US blows up at their school because there was no pipeline.  It will happen because Karma is a biatch.

The idea is that the oil doesn't get dug up at all.

whidbey: This particular government's "interests" ultimately include a populace satisfied that their government did the right thing despite pressure from Big Oil.

God damn you are a funny guy.
 
2014-03-03 04:09:27 AM  

mr lawson: I am raising the money myself and plan to do it without their help.


It's certainly possible. Look at Paul Allen. If they'd pool the money they use for Celebrity Space Flights and use it for what you're into, it would go a long way.
 
2014-03-03 04:12:05 AM  

RanDomino: tbeatty: Students are going to be awfully miffed when the rail cares carrying oil to the same refinery in the US blows up at their school because there was no pipeline.  It will happen because Karma is a biatch.
The idea is that the oil doesn't get dug up at all.
whidbey: This particular government's "interests" ultimately include a populace satisfied that their government did the right thing despite pressure from Big Oil.
God damn you are a funny guy.


So you think that any protesting is moot, that our "corporate masters" have already set up shop and are sending us our 6 digit set of binary ID codes, yes I know.

If you had read between the lines, I was actually imagining this from a grassroots activist perspective, but oh well. If that's how easily entertained you are, fine.
 
2014-03-03 04:13:12 AM  

whidbey: t's certainly possible. Look at Paul Allen. If they'd pool the money they use for Celebrity Space Flights and use it for what you're into, it would go a long way.


lol...think bigger
like i said..i'm pretty good with computers. stats and econ.
 
2014-03-03 04:19:30 AM  
So after screwing up their country every which way but loose, these students... Are decrying Obama for messing with their future... By daring to even consider development of energy infrastructure.
 
2014-03-03 04:20:42 AM  

ginandbacon: Also, student activism pretty much ended the war in Vietnam and Apartheid and got civil rights passed in this country as well as women's rights, so all you folks screaming "Get off Obama's lawn!" can just shut it.


Oh, I'd be right there with them, if only in internet spirit, and also if only the President wasn't already on their side. So yeah. The lawn looks well tended.
 
2014-03-03 04:22:01 AM  

mr lawson: whidbey: Honestly, if you've got a way to strongarm these guys you aren't telling us about, I'd like to hear about it.

Mars would be awesome.

Simple really...fark them
See...my degree is not in aerospace, nor computer science, nor military even though I know these subjects (self-taught and served)
No...my degree is in Econ/political science.
I don't need nor want their help.
I am raising the money myself and plan to do it without their help.
I will be seeking like minded individuals to come along for the ride.
Like I said, I am using their system (capitalism) against them.
It is quite poetic.


Mmhmm.  Good luck finding like-minded capital that isn't already in SpaceX etc.
 
2014-03-03 04:23:10 AM  

mr lawson: whidbey: t's certainly possible. Look at Paul Allen. If they'd pool the money they use for Celebrity Space Flights and use it for what you're into, it would go a long way.

lol...think bigger
like i said..i'm pretty good with computers. stats and econ.


You'd have to have a fleet of Price is Right Girls to convince those farks to give up any money. ;)
 
2014-03-03 04:29:06 AM  

Monkeyfark Ridiculous: Mmhmm.  Good luck finding like-minded capital that isn't already in SpaceX etc.


whidbey: You'd have to have a fleet of Price is Right Girls to convince those farks to give up any money. ;)


You have missed the point.
I DON'T NEED NOR WANT their money.
(Well, just a few folks, but that part has already been figured out which you will see how in the next couple of months)

Let'em try and stop me.
 
2014-03-03 04:30:40 AM  

mr lawson: Monkeyfark Ridiculous: Mmhmm.  Good luck finding like-minded capital that isn't already in SpaceX etc.

whidbey: You'd have to have a fleet of Price is Right Girls to convince those farks to give up any money. ;)

You have missed the point.
I DON'T NEED NOR WANT their money.
(Well, just a few folks, but that part has already been figured out which you will see how in the next couple of months)

Let'em try and stop me.


All right man. DO IT. NEXT STOP EUROPA.
 
2014-03-03 04:31:35 AM  

violentsalvation: ginandbacon: Also, student activism pretty much ended the war in Vietnam and Apartheid and got civil rights passed in this country as well as women's rights, so all you folks screaming "Get off Obama's lawn!" can just shut it.

Oh, I'd be right there with them, if only in internet spirit, and also if only the President wasn't already on their side. So yeah. The lawn looks well tended.


Is he though? The State Department report is pretty suspect and he certainly had input on that fiasco. To what end?
 
2014-03-03 04:32:05 AM  

whidbey: Scythed: I can't believe how misguided and easily fooled these kids are.

The climate is already screwed and the existence or lack thereof of this pipeline will have no effect on that.

Actually, mainstream science has many recommendations, including the reduction of greenhouse gases by using less fossil fuel. Thanks for playing.


No kidding?

Now all we have to do is convince the 80% of the world contributing fairly negligible amounts of CO2 to stop trying to develop themselves out of crushing poverty (so they don't get to American standards of living where we contribute 20% of CO2 emissions while only being 5% of the population) while we find a solution that they can actually afford and implement before they ruin the environment.

i think the world needs to face up to the fact that climate change is nothing more than a Malthusian Catastrophe we have the benefit of knowing about in advance. This pipeline is nothing more than your classic free-rider problem: If we don't built it, someone else will eventually offer enough money to make it economical within Canada because they care far more about improving their own living standards than they doc about reducing emissions. That's going to be true of basically anything, and that's doubly harmful since CO2 emissions are cumulative and the rate at which they're flushed from the environment doesn't much change with the amount in the atmosphere.
 
2014-03-03 04:33:12 AM  

whidbey: All right man. DO IT. NEXT STOP EUROPA.


actually it would be Callisto for the Jupiter moons. Europa has too much radiation.
 
2014-03-03 04:44:43 AM  

LordJiro: tbeatty: Students are going to be awfully miffed when the rail cares carrying oil to the same refinery in the US blows up at their school because there was no pipeline.  It will happen because Karma is a biatch.

More or less upset than when the pipeline contaminates into the groundwater?


To the both of you:

They won't care.

These protests are in DC. These are Georgetown, George Washington, Howard, and American University students. The closest any of them have been to the Keystone XL pipeline is probably Leesburg. Many of them have probably used the term "flyover country" seriously. Put simply: they don't give a flying fark about the people Keystone XL would actually help or harm.

This is a symptom of the colonial injuries that are being inflicted on the Great Plains. It's an American Orientalism inflicted on its own people. They think they not only know what is best for us, but that they know US without bothering to learn about us, or even care about us. Which of them will ever be harmed by an oil spill in Nebraska? Which of them will genuinely care about those who are?
 
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