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2014-03-03 12:26:36 AM  
Hmmm, interesting.  If this works, then Crimea might become an autonomous region of Russia.

/I guess what BO said to PuttyPut had some nails after all
 
2014-03-03 12:27:00 AM  
FTA:
"I, Berezovsky Denis, swear allegiance to the Crimean people and pledge to protect it, as required by the [army] regulations. I swear to take orders of Crimea and Sevastopol's Supreme Commander,"

I'm glad the US army doesn't have you swear allegiance to your hometown.  All of the gang bangers and poors would defect and declare the sovereignty of Detriot.
 
2014-03-03 12:27:13 AM  
but will they get to see montana?
 
2014-03-03 12:27:56 AM  
RT is run by the Kremlin, so I'll wait for independent confirmation on this.
 
2014-03-03 12:28:54 AM  
rt.com?

As if these current events: That's totally legit, man!
 
2014-03-03 12:28:55 AM  
FTFA "Today the majority of the Ukrainian armed forces deployed in Crimea passed to the side of the authorities of the Crimean autonomous region. The transition was absolutely peaceful, without a single shot fired either by the military or by the forces of self-defense," a source told RIA Novosti news agency.

Well, that might make Russia think twice, at least for a minute...assuming that a peaceful transition means the forces are still at least somewhat functional.  They could still crush them, but the cost might not be considered worth it anymore.
 
2014-03-03 12:29:48 AM  

HotWingAgenda: RT is run by the Kremlin, so I'll wait for independent confirmation on this.


Farking THIS.  Also, I'm pretty sure the Crimean Navy chief got sacked.
 
2014-03-03 12:32:17 AM  

Rhino_man: HotWingAgenda: RT is run by the Kremlin, so I'll wait for independent confirmation on this.

Farking THIS.  Also, I'm pretty sure the Crimean Navy chief got sacked.


shiat just got metal
 
2014-03-03 12:32:34 AM  

HotWingAgenda: RT is run by the Kremlin, so I'll wait for independent confirmation on this.


From the BBC:  http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-26410431#TWEET1059881
 
2014-03-03 12:33:09 AM  

RogermcAllen: FTA:
"I, Berezovsky Denis, swear allegiance to the Crimean people and pledge to protect it, as required by the [army] regulations. I swear to take orders of Crimea and Sevastopol's Supreme Commander,"

I'm glad the US army doesn't have you swear allegiance to your hometown.  All of the gang bangers and poors would defect and declare the sovereignty of Detriot.


Yeah, that would be a dreadful loss.
 
2014-03-03 12:34:40 AM  

Emposter: FTFA "Today the majority of the Ukrainian armed forces deployed in Crimea passed to the side of the authorities of the Crimean autonomous region. The transition was absolutely peaceful, without a single shot fired either by the military or by the forces of self-defense," a source told RIA Novosti news agency.

Well, that might make Russia think twice, at least for a minute...assuming that a peaceful transition means the forces are still at least somewhat functional.  They could still crush them, but the cost might not be considered worth it anymore.


No it won't.  They're on Russia's side now.

Also:

Rhino_man: HotWingAgenda: RT is run by the Kremlin, so I'll wait for independent confirmation on this.

Farking THIS.  Also, I'm pretty sure the Crimean Navy chief got sacked.


HotWingAgenda: RT is run by the Kremlin, so I'll wait for independent confirmation on this.



How about a video of him announcing the defection on the BBC?  He was sacked as a response to this, as were the treason charges filed against him.  If the Kiev government ever gets a hold of him, he'll be facing a firing squad five minutes later.
 
2014-03-03 12:34:56 AM  
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2014-03-03 12:35:35 AM  

RogermcAllen: FTA:
"I, Berezovsky Denis, swear allegiance to the Crimean people and pledge to protect it, as required by the [army] regulations. I swear to take orders of Crimea and Sevastopol's Supreme Commander,"

I'm glad the US army doesn't have you swear allegiance to your hometown.  All of the gang bangers and poors would defect and declare the sovereignty of Detriot.


Herpyjerpy racialderp
 
2014-03-03 12:36:19 AM  
There's no way Crimea can be an independent state.  It is far too dependent on everyone around them for virtually everything to be economically viable.
 
2014-03-03 12:38:54 AM  
Still a fair amount of bullshiat flying in there. FTFA:

A Russian media report on Saturday also claimed that Ukraine's Navy flagship, the Hetman Sahaidachny frigate has refused to follow orders from Kiev, came over to Russia's side and was returning home from the Gulf of Aden flying the Russian naval flag.

... which is being disputed by non-Russian media (cannot specify which, WSJ paywall)
 
2014-03-03 12:39:57 AM  
"I should have liked to see Montana"
 
2014-03-03 12:41:04 AM  
Also in other news, the G7 pulled out of the conference later this year .  It's starting to look like the G8 will quickly become the G7 in name as well.
 
2014-03-03 12:41:24 AM  
If Ukraine is smart, they'll give every citizen a sniper rifle and tell them to start plinking away. If helicopter gunships come in, they'll hand out hand-held anti-aircraft missile launchers to every citizen. What Ukraine doesn't want to do is try to fight the Russians with conventional weapons. Just wear them down. Oh and IEDs.
 
2014-03-03 12:46:25 AM  
Saw a newspaper thread blaming Obama for the Russian invasion of Georgia in 2008, several months before he took office. There's no part of this that isn't a clusterfark, so Crimea declaring independence seems reasonable.
 
2014-03-03 12:47:07 AM  

thetrenchcoat: HotWingAgenda: RT is run by the Kremlin, so I'll wait for independent confirmation on this.

From the BBC:  http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-26410431#TWEET1059881


OK. So, a comparative analysis of the objective international report and the state-run Russian news shows that one jackass declared his allegiance to another nation, was fired and is facing charges, and has no authority over any vessel bigger than the rubber ducky in his bathtub.
 
2014-03-03 12:48:20 AM  

NEDM: Also in other news, the G7 pulled out of the conference later this year .  It's starting to look like the G8 will quickly become the G7 in name as well.


That seems like it's rather a big deal.
 
2014-03-03 12:49:07 AM  

TheShavingofOccam123: If Ukraine is smart, they'll give every citizen a sniper rifle and tell them to start plinking away. If helicopter gunships come in, they'll hand out hand-held anti-aircraft missile launchers to every citizen. What Ukraine doesn't want to do is try to fight the Russians with conventional weapons. Just wear them down. Oh and IEDs.


Ukraine transferred all of their nuclear weapons to Russia in 1996. If they'd been sensible, they'd have hung on to a couple.
 
2014-03-03 12:53:06 AM  
Putin will do what he wants. He baited, then humiliated Obama during the Syrian crisis. Obama was baited into going all in - only to find out he had no international support whatsoever. The rest of the world, led by Putin, just laughed their ass off. An embarrassment for Obama, humiliating for our position in the world. Obama will sit this one out.
 
2014-03-03 12:55:16 AM  

r1niceboy: There's no part of this that isn't a clusterfark, so Crimea declaring independence seems reasonable.


not really, because

Gawdzila: There's no way Crimea can be an independent state.  It is far too dependent on everyone around them for virtually everything to be economically viable.


Crimea is almost an island, but it is a peninsula connected to the rest of Ukraine by a relatively tiny isthmus which provides Crimea with the bulk of its electricity and such -from Ukraine-.
 
2014-03-03 12:55:26 AM  

WhoopAssWayne: Putin will do what he wants. He baited, then humiliated Obama during the Syrian crisis. Obama was baited into going all in - only to find out he had no international support whatsoever. The rest of the world, led by Putin, just laughed their ass off. An embarrassment for Obama, humiliating for our position in the world. Obama will sit this one out.


I'm going to miss chickens once they go extinct.
 
2014-03-03 12:57:01 AM  
Did Ukraine seriously think that Sevastopol and the Crimean would actually stay with them? LOL.

Better fortify Odessa fast.
 
2014-03-03 12:57:53 AM  

The Bestest: r1niceboy: There's no part of this that isn't a clusterfark, so Crimea declaring independence seems reasonable.

not really, because
Gawdzila: There's no way Crimea can be an independent state.  It is far too dependent on everyone around them for virtually everything to be economically viable.

Crimea is almost an island, but it is a peninsula connected to the rest of Ukraine by a relatively tiny isthmus which provides Crimea with the bulk of its electricity and such -from Ukraine-.


Also the bulk of their water. The place is a barren desert
 
2014-03-03 12:59:34 AM  

The Bestest: Crimea is almost an island, but it is a peninsula...


Latin:
"paene" = "almost"
"insula" = "island"
 
2014-03-03 01:00:37 AM  

echomike23: but will they get to see montana?


and the dental floss ranches?
 
2014-03-03 01:02:17 AM  

Mentat: I'm going to miss chickens once they go extinct.


Were you a chicken when war-hawking for a new war in Syria?

All the Bush protest flags got rolled up. Put up under your beds. Until, of course, Obama wanted to start a new middle-east war, then we saw the greatest Fark anti-war liberals promote war every day.

Your guy is in office. Time for a new war?
 
2014-03-03 01:03:39 AM  

WhoopAssWayne: Putin will do what he wants. He baited, then humiliated Obama during the Syrian crisis. Obama was baited into going all in - only to find out he had no international support whatsoever. The rest of the world, led by Putin, just laughed their ass off. An embarrassment for Obama, humiliating for our position in the world. Obama will sit this one out.


That is an interesting alternate reality you live in.
 
2014-03-03 01:04:22 AM  

ski9600: Hmmm, interesting.  If this works, then Crimea might become an autonomous region of Russia.

/I guess what BO said to PuttyPut had some nails after all


Yeah, there's the other likely possibility, the rest of the world responds to Russia's stupidity, destroys their economy and they withdraw.  Once that happens, this asshat is a traitor and hung.

Great idea there bud.
 
2014-03-03 01:05:01 AM  

TheShavingofOccam123: If Ukraine is smart, they'll give every citizen a sniper rifle and tell them to start plinking away. If helicopter gunships come in, they'll hand out hand-held anti-aircraft missile launchers to every citizen. What Ukraine doesn't want to do is try to fight the Russians with conventional weapons. Just wear them down. Oh and IEDs.


Well, that's certainly worked out well for the Chechens.
 
2014-03-03 01:05:36 AM  

WhoopAssWayne: Mentat: I'm going to miss chickens once they go extinct.

Were you a chicken when war-hawking for a new war in Syria?

All the Bush protest flags got rolled up. Put up under your beds. Until, of course, Obama wanted to start a new middle-east war, then we saw the greatest Fark anti-war liberals promote war every day.

Your guy is in office. Time for a new war?


What color is the sky where you live?  Also, how is it always falling?
 
2014-03-03 01:05:59 AM  

ongbok: That is an interesting alternate reality you live in.


That Obama pushed for a Syrian war, over and over, and the world and country stood up and shouted that dumbass down? That is the world *we* live in.
 
2014-03-03 01:07:10 AM  

Cagey B: TheShavingofOccam123: If Ukraine is smart, they'll give every citizen a sniper rifle and tell them to start plinking away. If helicopter gunships come in, they'll hand out hand-held anti-aircraft missile launchers to every citizen. What Ukraine doesn't want to do is try to fight the Russians with conventional weapons. Just wear them down. Oh and IEDs.

Well, that's certainly worked out well for the Chechens.


Yeah, about that.  Ukraine is second only to the US in production of amazingly accurate anti aircraft systems.  Hell, even Russia buys them.  The Chechens, not so much.
 
2014-03-03 01:07:33 AM  

WhoopAssWayne: ongbok: That is an interesting alternate reality you live in.

That Obama pushed for a Syrian war, over and over, and the world and country stood up and shouted that dumbass down? That is the world *we* live in.


That's.. not what happened.. at all.
 
2014-03-03 01:08:28 AM  

WhoopAssWayne: ongbok: That is an interesting alternate reality you live in.

That Obama pushed for a Syrian war, over and over, and the world and country stood up and shouted that dumbass down? That is the world *we* live in.


"The President would be better off focusing clearly on the one thing that is in our national security interests: securing Syria's large stockpile of chemical weapons," Sen. Cruz said. "We know Assad has used these weapons, and there is good reason to suspect the al Qaida-affiliated rebels would use them as well if they could get their hands on them. This poses an intolerable threat not only to our friends in the region, but also to the United States. We need to be developing a clear, practical plan to go in, locate the weapons, secure or destroy them, and then get out. The United States should be firmly in the lead to make sure the job is done right."
Ted Cruz June 20, 2013

"This is not a world we should accept.  This is what's at stake.  And that is why, after careful deliberation, I determined that it is in the national security interests of the United States to respond to the Assad regime's use of chemical weapons through a targeted military strike.  The purpose of this strike would be to deter Assad from using chemical weapons, to degrade his regime's ability to use them, and to make clear to the world that we will not tolerate their use."
President Obama September 10, 2013

"Obama is too willing to use U.S. military might in defense of international norms in Syria in a way that is not in the interest of protecting our national security,"
Ted Cruz September 11 2013


You see the problem here?
 
2014-03-03 01:11:07 AM  

rohar: WhoopAssWayne: ongbok: That is an interesting alternate reality you live in.

That Obama pushed for a Syrian war, over and over, and the world and country stood up and shouted that dumbass down? That is the world *we* live in.

"The President would be better off focusing clearly on the one thing that is in our national security interests: securing Syria's large stockpile of chemical weapons," Sen. Cruz said. "We know Assad has used these weapons, and there is good reason to suspect the al Qaida-affiliated rebels would use them as well if they could get their hands on them. This poses an intolerable threat not only to our friends in the region, but also to the United States. We need to be developing a clear, practical plan to go in, locate the weapons, secure or destroy them, and then get out. The United States should be firmly in the lead to make sure the job is done right."
Ted Cruz June 20, 2013

"This is not a world we should accept.  This is what's at stake.  And that is why, after careful deliberation, I determined that it is in the national security interests of the United States to respond to the Assad regime's use of chemical weapons through a targeted military strike.  The purpose of this strike would be to deter Assad from using chemical weapons, to degrade his regime's ability to use them, and to make clear to the world that we will not tolerate their use."
President Obama September 10, 2013

"Obama is too willing to use U.S. military might in defense of international norms in Syria in a way that is not in the interest of protecting our national security,"
Ted Cruz September 11 2013


You see the problem here?


You might wanna tie down any goalposts you have lying around.
 
2014-03-03 01:11:09 AM  

ongbok: WhoopAssWayne: Putin will do what he wants. He baited, then humiliated Obama during the Syrian crisis. Obama was baited into going all in - only to find out he had no international support whatsoever. The rest of the world, led by Putin, just laughed their ass off. An embarrassment for Obama, humiliating for our position in the world. Obama will sit this one out.

That is an interesting alternate reality you live in.


While I don't think we were humiliated by Syria, (and I *DO* think we should sorta sit this out militarily, our best weapon here is economically), I will say I *WAS* farking pissed at the international community during that bullshiat.

Instead of going alone, for once, America goes "Holy crap, they are using chemical weapons on civilians. This is horrendous and cannot be allowed. We should do something."

*Rest of Europe* "NOT IT."

(But yeah that guy lives in an alternate reality, I agree with that.)
 
2014-03-03 01:13:24 AM  

Felgraf: ongbok: WhoopAssWayne: Putin will do what he wants. He baited, then humiliated Obama during the Syrian crisis. Obama was baited into going all in - only to find out he had no international support whatsoever. The rest of the world, led by Putin, just laughed their ass off. An embarrassment for Obama, humiliating for our position in the world. Obama will sit this one out.

That is an interesting alternate reality you live in.

While I don't think we were humiliated by Syria, (and I *DO* think we should sorta sit this out militarily, our best weapon here is economically), I will say I *WAS* farking pissed at the international community during that bullshiat.

Instead of going alone, for once, America goes "Holy crap, they are using chemical weapons on civilians. This is horrendous and cannot be allowed. We should do something."

*Rest of Europe* "NOT IT."

(But yeah that guy lives in an alternate reality, I agree with that.)


He lives in the timeline where Obama has a goatee.
 
2014-03-03 01:14:14 AM  
This is all a bunch of stupid crap! They must be trying to draw our attention from some REAL shiz going down somewheres
 
2014-03-03 01:14:16 AM  

Rhino_man: rohar: WhoopAssWayne: ongbok: That is an interesting alternate reality you live in.

That Obama pushed for a Syrian war, over and over, and the world and country stood up and shouted that dumbass down? That is the world *we* live in.

"The President would be better off focusing clearly on the one thing that is in our national security interests: securing Syria's large stockpile of chemical weapons," Sen. Cruz said. "We know Assad has used these weapons, and there is good reason to suspect the al Qaida-affiliated rebels would use them as well if they could get their hands on them. This poses an intolerable threat not only to our friends in the region, but also to the United States. We need to be developing a clear, practical plan to go in, locate the weapons, secure or destroy them, and then get out. The United States should be firmly in the lead to make sure the job is done right."
Ted Cruz June 20, 2013

"This is not a world we should accept.  This is what's at stake.  And that is why, after careful deliberation, I determined that it is in the national security interests of the United States to respond to the Assad regime's use of chemical weapons through a targeted military strike.  The purpose of this strike would be to deter Assad from using chemical weapons, to degrade his regime's ability to use them, and to make clear to the world that we will not tolerate their use."
President Obama September 10, 2013

"Obama is too willing to use U.S. military might in defense of international norms in Syria in a way that is not in the interest of protecting our national security,"
Ted Cruz September 11 2013


You see the problem here?

You might wanna tie down any goalposts you have lying around.


I'm often entertained by inanimate objects becoming animate.  Sorry dude, I gotta see what happens.
 
2014-03-03 01:16:08 AM  

ongbok: Felgraf: ongbok: WhoopAssWayne: Putin will do what he wants. He baited, then humiliated Obama during the Syrian crisis. Obama was baited into going all in - only to find out he had no international support whatsoever. The rest of the world, led by Putin, just laughed their ass off. An embarrassment for Obama, humiliating for our position in the world. Obama will sit this one out.

That is an interesting alternate reality you live in.

While I don't think we were humiliated by Syria, (and I *DO* think we should sorta sit this out militarily, our best weapon here is economically), I will say I *WAS* farking pissed at the international community during that bullshiat.

Instead of going alone, for once, America goes "Holy crap, they are using chemical weapons on civilians. This is horrendous and cannot be allowed. We should do something."

*Rest of Europe* "NOT IT."

(But yeah that guy lives in an alternate reality, I agree with that.)

He lives in the timeline where Obama has a goatee.


Obama would honestly probably look pretty farking awesome in a goatee.

Though I admit I'd start to picture him as Xanatos from gargoyles if he did that.
 
2014-03-03 01:17:46 AM  
Putin humiliated Obama during the Syrian Crisis, owned him. That failure means we can't intervene in Crimea or Ukraine. Putin can do what he wants.
 
2014-03-03 01:18:51 AM  

rohar: Yeah, about that.  Ukraine is second only to the US in production of amazingly accurate anti aircraft systems.  Hell, even Russia buys them.  The Chechens, not so much.


I see. Passing out sophisticated anti-aircraft weaponry from Kiev's infinite stockpile of such weapons to random Ukrainians, in order to fight some sort of guerrilla war against conventional Russian forces, makes total sense now.
 
2014-03-03 01:20:01 AM  

WhoopAssWayne: Putin humiliated Obama during the Syrian Crisis, owned him. That failure means we can't intervene in Crimea or Ukraine. Putin can do what he wants.


You are confusing realities again dude. Get on your meds and step back into the real world.
 
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2014-03-03 01:20:02 AM  

HotWingAgenda: RT is run by the Kremlin, so I'll wait for independent confirmation on this.


Hahah!... "independent"...

The worldwide media is divided into two sides about this, and there almost no middle ground. Each side only reports part of the facts. Stick to your "independent" sources if you want, but there's a lot of stuff that they're refusing to report on, just like the pro-Russian half have their own blind spots.
 
2014-03-03 01:20:04 AM  

ransack.: RogermcAllen: FTA:
"I, Berezovsky Denis, swear allegiance to the Crimean people and pledge to protect it, as required by the [army] regulations. I swear to take orders of Crimea and Sevastopol's Supreme Commander,"

I'm glad the US army doesn't have you swear allegiance to your hometown.  All of the gang bangers and poors would defect and declare the sovereignty of Detroit.

Herpyjerpy racialderp


I'll take the herpy derp, but not the racial derp.  This guy defected because his hometown was under a perceived threat and he feels compelled to protect it by the [army] regulations of the Ukraine.  It is fairly well known (I am lazy, so I'll pretend like wiki counts as a real citation http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gang_presence_in_the_United_States_milit a ry ) that there is a strong gang presence in the United States military.  If these gang members were to swear allegiance to their homeland of Detroit, SoCal, or any other place that gang members live instead of the US Army, then we could potentially face a situation where Detroit gang members declared sovereignty or the Sureño could decide to take SoCal back to Mexico.  We could also imagine a situation where Tea Baggers declare the rule of Obama void, swear allegiance to the South, and declare themselves a sovereign nation.  Since the US is a giant tossed salad, we can everyone in on the action.  Chicago would become part of Poland, Minnesota would be annexed by Sweeden, Miami would go to Cuba, and we would gladly give Wisconsin back to the Germans.
 
2014-03-03 01:20:14 AM  

Cagey B: TheShavingofOccam123: If Ukraine is smart, they'll give every citizen a sniper rifle and tell them to start plinking away. If helicopter gunships come in, they'll hand out hand-held anti-aircraft missile launchers to every citizen. What Ukraine doesn't want to do is try to fight the Russians with conventional weapons. Just wear them down. Oh and IEDs.

Well, that's certainly worked out well for the Chechens.


You mean the White Tights? The Olympics just ended so the "biatch-cuckoos" will be in fine form for shooting Russian officers.

/40 years of rumors about female snipers blasting away at Soviets and Russians
/apparently, we later figured out that jihadists were in country during the break up of Yugoslavia, chopping off heads and in other ways taking revenge against Muslim killers. But it took years to confirm that or at least admit it
 
2014-03-03 01:21:07 AM  

Cagey B: rohar: Yeah, about that.  Ukraine is second only to the US in production of amazingly accurate anti aircraft systems.  Hell, even Russia buys them.  The Chechens, not so much.

I see. Passing out sophisticated anti-aircraft weaponry from Kiev's infinite stockpile of such weapons to random Ukrainians, in order to fight some sort of guerrilla war against conventional Russian forces, makes total sense now.


I'm not that sure, we got our dicks in a pretty solid knot when they sold that same hardware to Iran 2 years ago.  Hardly random or guerilla.  On this subject, they're state of the farking art.
 
2014-03-03 01:21:18 AM  

WhoopAssWayne: Putin humiliated Obama during the Syrian Crisis, owned him. That failure means we can't intervene in Crimea or Ukraine. Putin can do what he wants.


Are you talking about the failure that resulted in chemical weapons removal -without- having to commit US military forces?
 
2014-03-03 01:22:31 AM  

HotWingAgenda: thetrenchcoat: HotWingAgenda: RT is run by the Kremlin, so I'll wait for independent confirmation on this.

From the BBC:  http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-26410431#TWEET1059881

OK. So, a comparative analysis of the objective international report and the state-run Russian news shows that one jackass declared his allegiance to another nation, was fired and is facing charges, and has no authority over any vessel bigger than the rubber ducky in his bathtub.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDy4PZPMDwU
 
2014-03-03 01:23:02 AM  

WhoopAssWayne: Putin humiliated Obama during the Syrian Crisis, owned him. That failure means we can't intervene in Crimea or Ukraine. Putin can do what he wants.


Why SHOULD we intervene in Crimea or Ukraine? Because Putin beefed up the Russian presence at the Russian port in mostly-Russian Crimea after violent revolutionaries overthrew Ukraine's government?

I know you idiots have a massive nostalgia-boner for the Cold War, but it's not happening. Get over it.
 
2014-03-03 01:24:48 AM  

The Bestest: Are you talking about the failure that resulted in chemical weapons removal -without- having to commit US military forces?


The Russians pressured them into that - not us. And the deal was, they had to turn those weapons over to the Russians - their stalwart allies. Many believe, those weapons didn't go anywhere.
 
2014-03-03 01:25:43 AM  

WhoopAssWayne: The Bestest: Are you talking about the failure that resulted in chemical weapons removal -without- having to commit US military forces?

The Russians pressured them into that - not us. And the deal was, they had to turn those weapons over to the Russians - their stalwart allies. Many believe, those weapons didn't go anywhere.


..and -why- did the Russians pressure them into that?
 
2014-03-03 01:26:36 AM  

WhoopAssWayne: Putin humiliated Obama during the Syrian Crisis, owned him. That failure means we can't intervene in Crimea or Ukraine. Putin can do what he wants.


Keep f*cking that Chechen.
 
2014-03-03 01:27:07 AM  

WhoopAssWayne: The Bestest: Are you talking about the failure that resulted in chemical weapons removal -without- having to commit US military forces?

The Russians pressured them into that - not us. And the deal was, they had to turn those weapons over to the Russians - their stalwart allies. Many believe, those weapons didn't go anywhere.


The deal was that the chemical weapons, and the equipment for making them, were to be destroyed, under the UN's supervision. Nice try, liar.
 
2014-03-03 01:27:10 AM  
rohar:

I'm often entertained by inanimate objects becoming animate.  Sorry dude, I gotta see what happens.

He will ignore it, not reply to your destruction of his point, and instead repost the same bullshiat in reply to others in order to get another round of shiat flying.

In fact a quick look shows he has already done this. It is twatwaffle tactic 17 I think.
 
2014-03-03 01:28:02 AM  

LordJiro: Why SHOULD we intervene in Crimea or Ukraine?

I know you idiots have a massive nostalgia-boner for th Cold War, but it's not happening. Get over it.

Are you on crack cocaine fool? I'm advocating for non-intervention and peace.
 
2014-03-03 01:28:19 AM  

The Bestest: WhoopAssWayne: The Bestest: Are you talking about the failure that resulted in chemical weapons removal -without- having to commit US military forces?

The Russians pressured them into that - not us. And the deal was, they had to turn those weapons over to the Russians - their stalwart allies. Many believe, those weapons didn't go anywhere.

..and -why- did the Russians pressure them into that?


This guy doesn't read any actual news does he? He gets all of his "news" from FWD:FWD:FWD emails.
 
2014-03-03 01:28:51 AM  

WhoopAssWayne: Putin humiliated Obama during the Syrian Crisis, owned him. That failure means we can't intervene in Crimea or Ukraine. Putin can do what he wants.


 I assume you are referring to when Assad pledged to give up his chemical weapon stockpiles for destruction under the watch of the international community. Yup. Totally pwnd Obama by getting rid of the primary target of the military strikes and prevented the.S. from blowing millions in guided munitions and stepping into another Middle East quagmire.
 
2014-03-03 01:29:34 AM  
WhoopAssWayne is a flouride conspiracy theorist.
 
2014-03-03 01:30:43 AM  

thehobbes: WhoopAssWayne: Putin humiliated Obama during the Syrian Crisis, owned him. That failure means we can't intervene in Crimea or Ukraine. Putin can do what he wants.

 I assume you are referring to when Assad pledged to give up his chemical weapon stockpiles for destruction under the watch of the international community. Yup. Totally pwnd Obama by getting rid of the primary target of the military strikes and prevented the.S. from blowing millions in guided munitions and stepping into another Middle East quagmire.


Hey, someone's got to cheer for the Russian totalitarian and against the elected POTUS. I'm just glad the GOP has found a proper role for the party out of power.
 
2014-03-03 01:31:13 AM  

spamdog: WhoopAssWayne is a flouride conspiracy theorist.

WhoopAssWayne

thinks he's John Wayne.
 
2014-03-03 01:31:14 AM  

WhoopAssWayne: LordJiro: Why SHOULD we intervene in Crimea or Ukraine?I know you idiots have a massive nostalgia-boner for th Cold War, but it's not happening. Get over it.

Are you on crack cocaine fool? I'm advocating for non-intervention and peace.


Which is totally consistent with you blasting Obama for not bombing Syria.
 
2014-03-03 01:31:47 AM  

WhoopAssWayne: ongbok: That is an interesting alternate reality you live in.

That Obama pushed for a Syrian war, over and over, and the world and country stood up and shouted that dumbass down? That is the world *we* live in.


Republicans and "patriots" are aiding and abetting Putin, Assad, etc, in committing war crimes and genocide just so they can score tiny amounts of points against Obama on the sunday talkshows. But they got Jesus on their side, so that's alright.
 
2014-03-03 01:32:10 AM  
<b>whoopmyasswayne</b>

let me get this straight - you are upset because you believe that obama wanted to intervene in syria and you are upset that he didn't intervene in syria?
 
2014-03-03 01:32:25 AM  

LordJiro: The deal was that the chemical weapons, and the equipment for making them, were to be destroyed, under the UN's supervision. Nice try, liar.


Putin was behind that deal. Obama folded liked a cheap suit, hid under his desk, and pissed in his pants. Putin made that happen. That's why we have so little international standing now. Obama's failure as a leader at any level.
 
2014-03-03 01:32:44 AM  
Crimean Navy doesn't warrant a "Spiffy" tag?
 
2014-03-03 01:34:20 AM  

21-7-b: <b>whoopmyasswayne</b>

let me get this straight - you are upset because you believe that obama wanted to intervene in syria and you are upset that he didn't intervene in syria?


It's going to take him a minute to answer. He has to look through his FWD:FWD:FWD emails for a talking point to address that.
 
2014-03-03 01:35:04 AM  

scotchlandia: Crimean Navy doesn't warrant a "Spiffy" tag?


why would it?
 
2014-03-03 01:35:11 AM  

WhoopAssWayne: LordJiro: The deal was that the chemical weapons, and the equipment for making them, were to be destroyed, under the UN's supervision. Nice try, liar.

Putin was behind that deal. Obama folded liked a cheap suit, hid under his desk, and pissed in his pants. Putin made that happen. That's why we have so little international standing now. Obama's failure as a leader at any level.


you mean when obama threatened a strike unless action was taken to remove the chemical weapon stockpiles, which led to a plan to remove the chemical weapon stockpiles?
 
2014-03-03 01:35:29 AM  

WhoopAssWayne: LordJiro: The deal was that the chemical weapons, and the equipment for making them, were to be destroyed, under the UN's supervision. Nice try, liar.

Putin was behind that deal. Obama folded liked a cheap suit, hid under his desk, and pissed in his pants. Putin made that happen. That's why we have so little international standing now. Obama's failure as a leader at any level.


Yes, I'm sure Putin was just jumping for joy at the prospect of having a close ally disarm themselves under UN supervision.
 
2014-03-03 01:36:41 AM  

ongbok: 21-7-b: <b>whoopmyasswayne</b>

let me get this straight - you are upset because you believe that obama wanted to intervene in syria and you are upset that he didn't intervene in syria?

It's going to take him a minute to answer. He has to look through his FWD:FWD:FWD emails for a talking point to address that.


he probably prints the emails off and stores them in binders in his "library"
 
2014-03-03 01:37:08 AM  

WhoopAssWayne: LordJiro: The deal was that the chemical weapons, and the equipment for making them, were to be destroyed, under the UN's supervision. Nice try, liar.

Putin was behind that deal. Obama folded liked a cheap suit, hid under his desk, and pissed in his pants. Putin made that happen. That's why we have so little international standing now. Obama's failure as a leader at any level.


Getting us out of a 10 year oil war in Iraq and out of Afghanistan is the kind of failure I like. He's also finally trying jihadists in the US justice system and not in military tribunals--another failure I appreciate. He managed to get Congress to pass serious healthcare reform. Again, another failure in leadership I like.

We need more failures like Obama. And not any more great leaders like Bush and Cheney.
 
2014-03-03 01:37:11 AM  
Having not kept up on this is saying that you support the people of Crimea a pro Ukraine or pro Russia statement? It sounds like half the people in that area identify as Russian.

Or is Crimea trying to angle for an independent state status inside of Russia? Good luck with that.

Course he could just be hedging his bets and can say later on that Ukraine or Russia betrayed the Crimean people yada yada.
 
2014-03-03 01:40:40 AM  
The Bestest
Are you talking about the failure that resulted in chemical weapons removal -without- having to commit US military forces?

The real objective in that affair was to invent a casus belli to bomb the Baathist military. It came shortly after Hezbollah entered the war and started pisspounding the rebels. Citation: obv obv obv
 
2014-03-03 01:41:16 AM  

lelio: Having not kept up on this is saying that you support the people of Crimea a pro Ukraine or pro Russia statement? It sounds like half the people in that area identify as Russian.

Every person in this pic supported the ending of the Florida recount.


broadcatching.files.wordpress.com
Every. Single. One. Of. Them.

I wouldn't believe too much of anything coming out of Russia. Truth is the first casualty and it's been pretty ill in Russia for a long time.
 
2014-03-03 01:41:27 AM  

TheShavingofOccam123: Getting us out of a 10 year oil war in Iraq and out of Afghanistan is the kind of failure I like.


He said he was going to do that 6 months into his first term, or would you like to deny that?

I woke up in Nov 2008, when Obama won, and thought "We're going to be ok, he'll get us out of this mess"

Here we are today.
 
2014-03-03 01:41:29 AM  

21-7-b: WhoopAssWayne: LordJiro: The deal was that the chemical weapons, and the equipment for making them, were to be destroyed, under the UN's supervision. Nice try, liar.

Putin was behind that deal. Obama folded liked a cheap suit, hid under his desk, and pissed in his pants. Putin made that happen. That's why we have so little international standing now. Obama's failure as a leader at any level.

you mean when obama threatened a strike unless action was taken to remove the chemical weapon stockpiles, which led to a plan to remove the chemical weapon stockpiles?


No. That was Putin that threatened a strike while Obama hid in a closet in the Oval office curled up in a fetal position and crying.

This is the reality that he lives in. I bet he even believes that Obama didn't order the operation that killed Bin Laden. He probably believes that it was the military that seized power from Obama and ordered the raid because Obama wouldn't do it.
 
2014-03-03 01:42:25 AM  

rohar: ski9600: Hmmm, interesting.  If this works, then Crimea might become an autonomous region of Russia.

/I guess what BO said to PuttyPut had some nails after all

Yeah, there's the other likely possibility, the rest of the world responds to Russia's stupidity, destroys their economy and they withdraw.  Once that happens, this asshat is a traitor and hung.

Great idea there bud.


Unlike the US, Ukraine doesn't have murder by the state.
 
2014-03-03 01:43:03 AM  

lelio: Having not kept up on this is saying that you support the people of Crimea a pro Ukraine or pro Russia statement? It sounds like half the people in that area identify as Russian.

Or is Crimea trying to angle for an independent state status inside of Russia? Good luck with that.

Course he could just be hedging his bets and can say later on that Ukraine or Russia betrayed the Crimean people yada yada.


It's complicated.

Crimea is already an autonomous region within Ukraine with its own PM and everything and the majority of its population is Russian, however, it still relies on Ukraine for resources, defense, etc. It could not survive as a totally independent state. Russia has military bases within Crimea including a major naval base and a standing forces agreement regarding those bases. Russia's stance is that its recent asset activity is within the bounds of that agreement.
 
2014-03-03 01:44:01 AM  
This rocks.
 
2014-03-03 01:47:13 AM  

ongbok: 21-7-b: WhoopAssWayne: LordJiro: The deal was that the chemical weapons, and the equipment for making them, were to be destroyed, under the UN's supervision. Nice try, liar.

Putin was behind that deal. Obama folded liked a cheap suit, hid under his desk, and pissed in his pants. Putin made that happen. That's why we have so little international standing now. Obama's failure as a leader at any level.

you mean when obama threatened a strike unless action was taken to remove the chemical weapon stockpiles, which led to a plan to remove the chemical weapon stockpiles?

No. That was Putin that threatened a strike while Obama hid in a closet in the Oval office curled up in a fetal position and crying.

This is the reality that he lives in. I bet he even believes that Obama didn't order the operation that killed Bin Laden. He probably believes that it was the military that seized power from Obama and ordered the raid because Obama wouldn't do it.


it's hard to believe, but i think he thinks he's funny.
 
2014-03-03 01:49:04 AM  
"You just don't in the 21st century behave in 19th-century fashion by invading another country on [a] completely trumped up pretext," Kerry said.

You've got to have some balls to say those words, as an American, I mean.
 
2014-03-03 01:49:17 AM  
we'd all like the ukraine to be free of russia and able to make its own decisions. sadly, there is not much we in the west can do other than send moral support.
 
2014-03-03 01:49:24 AM  

WhoopAssWayne: TheShavingofOccam123: Getting us out of a 10 year oil war in Iraq and out of Afghanistan is the kind of failure I like.

He said he was going to do that 6 months into his first term, or would you like to deny that?

I woke up in Nov 2008, when Obama won, and thought "We're going to be ok, he'll get us out of this mess"

Here we are today.


Well, you didn't listen to the man when he was running for his first term.

He very clearly said he would withdraw troops from Iraq--which he did--and move them into Afghanistan--which he did. He said he was going to shut down Gitmo then Congress--in the middle of two wars--attached an amendment to the defense spending bill that forbade the president from shutting down Gitmo and from moving prisoners onto US soil.

I'm glad George Bush didn't get to privatize Social Security. Imagine--after Enron and after a 10 year oil war fought on the backs of volunteers who joined because they were told they were going to hunt down OBL--what Bush-Cheney would have done to SS during the financial meltdown.
 
2014-03-03 01:50:25 AM  

21-7-b: it's hard to believe, but i think he thinks he's funny.


Or, I think you're funnier.
 
2014-03-03 01:51:55 AM  

21-7-b: ongbok: 21-7-b: WhoopAssWayne: LordJiro: The deal was that the chemical weapons, and the equipment for making them, were to be destroyed, under the UN's supervision. Nice try, liar.

Putin was behind that deal. Obama folded liked a cheap suit, hid under his desk, and pissed in his pants. Putin made that happen. That's why we have so little international standing now. Obama's failure as a leader at any level.

you mean when obama threatened a strike unless action was taken to remove the chemical weapon stockpiles, which led to a plan to remove the chemical weapon stockpiles?

No. That was Putin that threatened a strike while Obama hid in a closet in the Oval office curled up in a fetal position and crying.

This is the reality that he lives in. I bet he even believes that Obama didn't order the operation that killed Bin Laden. He probably believes that it was the military that seized power from Obama and ordered the raid because Obama wouldn't do it.

it's hard to believe, but i think he thinks he's funny.


I don't know. The stuff he is saying is almost word for word with I here from other derpers. It is like they all subscribe to the same newsgroups and mailing list
 
2014-03-03 01:53:40 AM  

WhoopAssWayne: 21-7-b: it's hard to believe, but i think he thinks he's funny.

Or, I think you're funnier.


aw, bless
 
2014-03-03 01:55:27 AM  
TheShavingofOccam123
He very clearly said he would withdraw troops from Iraq--which he did

Maliki refused to grant US troops immunity.
 
2014-03-03 01:55:44 AM  
 
2014-03-03 01:58:37 AM  

ongbok: 21-7-b: ongbok: 21-7-b: WhoopAssWayne: LordJiro: The deal was that the chemical weapons, and the equipment for making them, were to be destroyed, under the UN's supervision. Nice try, liar.

Putin was behind that deal. Obama folded liked a cheap suit, hid under his desk, and pissed in his pants. Putin made that happen. That's why we have so little international standing now. Obama's failure as a leader at any level.

you mean when obama threatened a strike unless action was taken to remove the chemical weapon stockpiles, which led to a plan to remove the chemical weapon stockpiles?

No. That was Putin that threatened a strike while Obama hid in a closet in the Oval office curled up in a fetal position and crying.

This is the reality that he lives in. I bet he even believes that Obama didn't order the operation that killed Bin Laden. He probably believes that it was the military that seized power from Obama and ordered the raid because Obama wouldn't do it.

it's hard to believe, but i think he thinks he's funny.

I don't know. The stuff he is saying is almost word for word with I here from other derpers. It is like they all subscribe to the same newsgroups and mailing list

 i know, but if you look through his oeuvre you can see how desperate he is
 
2014-03-03 02:00:41 AM  

21-7-b: ongbok: 21-7-b: ongbok: 21-7-b: WhoopAssWayne: LordJiro: The deal was that the chemical weapons, and the equipment for making them, were to be destroyed, under the UN's supervision. Nice try, liar.

Putin was behind that deal. Obama folded liked a cheap suit, hid under his desk, and pissed in his pants. Putin made that happen. That's why we have so little international standing now. Obama's failure as a leader at any level.

you mean when obama threatened a strike unless action was taken to remove the chemical weapon stockpiles, which led to a plan to remove the chemical weapon stockpiles?

No. That was Putin that threatened a strike while Obama hid in a closet in the Oval office curled up in a fetal position and crying.

This is the reality that he lives in. I bet he even believes that Obama didn't order the operation that killed Bin Laden. He probably believes that it was the military that seized power from Obama and ordered the raid because Obama wouldn't do it.

it's hard to believe, but i think he thinks he's funny.

I don't know. The stuff he is saying is almost word for word with I here from other derpers. It is like they all subscribe to the same newsgroups and mailing list
 i know, but if you look through his oeuvre you can see how desperate he is


Don't they always get desperate and start with the goalpost moving once you hit them with facts? I wouldn't be surprised if he started reporting people to the mods for harassment.
 
2014-03-03 02:00:55 AM  

RanDomino: TheShavingofOccam123
He very clearly said he would withdraw troops from Iraq--which he did

Maliki refused to grant US troops immunity.


Maliki said that in 2011. Obama ran for office in 2007.

He did withdraw troops from Iraq and sent them into Afghanistan, as he said he would in his campaign. He didn't believe fighting a 10 year oil war in a country that had nothing to do with the 9-11 attacks would lessen the chances of any further terror attack coming out of Afghanistan.
 
2014-03-03 02:01:45 AM  
Occam - I'm a little deep on the brew side here - if you'd like to follow up, cool, but a bit deep in the cups - let me know if you want email - god bless bro
 
2014-03-03 02:03:47 AM  

HotWingAgenda: thetrenchcoat: HotWingAgenda: RT is run by the Kremlin, so I'll wait for independent confirmation on this.

From the BBC:  http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-26410431#TWEET1059881

OK. So, a comparative analysis of the objective international report and the state-run Russian news shows that one jackass declared his allegiance to another nation, was fired and is facing charges, and has no authority over any vessel bigger than the rubber ducky in his bathtub.


The ducky was already burned at the steak.

/and then slow roasted the rest of the way
 
2014-03-03 02:06:14 AM  

ongbok: 21-7-b: ongbok: 21-7-b: ongbok: 21-7-b: WhoopAssWayne: LordJiro: The deal was that the chemical weapons, and the equipment for making them, were to be destroyed, under the UN's supervision. Nice try, liar.

Putin was behind that deal. Obama folded liked a cheap suit, hid under his desk, and pissed in his pants. Putin made that happen. That's why we have so little international standing now. Obama's failure as a leader at any level.

you mean when obama threatened a strike unless action was taken to remove the chemical weapon stockpiles, which led to a plan to remove the chemical weapon stockpiles?

No. That was Putin that threatened a strike while Obama hid in a closet in the Oval office curled up in a fetal position and crying.

This is the reality that he lives in. I bet he even believes that Obama didn't order the operation that killed Bin Laden. He probably believes that it was the military that seized power from Obama and ordered the raid because Obama wouldn't do it.

it's hard to believe, but i think he thinks he's funny.

I don't know. The stuff he is saying is almost word for word with I here from other derpers. It is like they all subscribe to the same newsgroups and mailing list
 i know, but if you look through his oeuvre you can see how desperate he is

Don't they always get desperate and start with the goalpost moving once you hit them with facts? I wouldn't be surprised if he started reporting people to the mods for harassment.


i think he starts off with the idea that he can wind people up with what he sees as his rapier-like wit. once that fails it seems we must face pig-like squealing
 
2014-03-03 02:14:10 AM  

WhoopAssWayne: Putin will do what he wants. He baited, then humiliated Obama during the Syrian crisis. Obama was baited into going all in - only to find out he had no international support whatsoever. The rest of the world, led by Putin, just laughed their ass off. An embarrassment for Obama, humiliating for our position in the world. Obama will sit this one out.


www.quickmeme.com
 
2014-03-03 02:18:01 AM  

WhoopAssWayne: ongbok: That is an interesting alternate reality you live in.

That Obama pushed for a Syrian war, over and over, and the world and country stood up and shouted that dumbass down? That is the world *we* live in.


Has anyone ever suggested to you that your unhealthy fixation on Barrack Obama might stem from unwanted urges you've been suppressing?
 
2014-03-03 02:18:18 AM  
is it war yet?
 
2014-03-03 02:19:56 AM  

21-7-b: i think he starts off with the idea that he can wind people up with what he sees as his rapier-like wit. once that fails it seems we must face pig-like squealing


I, personally, have enjoyed watching WhoopAssWayne prompt you liberals to cut and run for excuses for your dear leader, just as you did in 2008 when President Obama failed to react appropriately to the Russian invasion of Georgia.
 
2014-03-03 02:21:09 AM  
Judging from this thread, looks like I need to update my list again. Let's see, where did we leave off?

4,283: I can't fit into my college tuxedo anymore
4,284: A lot of times when you get fish in restaurants it isn't the kind they say it is
4,285: South Pole research stations are on New Zealand time
4,286: Nothing really bad ever happened to the kids who bullied me in high school, like I'd hoped
4,287: My polar vortex survival stories are underwhelming
4,288: I tried to rent  The Dark Knight Rises but accidentally spent $1.99 on  The Dark Knight, which I'd already seen

Ah, here we go. Okay:

4,289: A nuclear power is acting as though it had some influence in a region where everyone speaks its language and it already had 26,000 troops and half a navy.

For all of these things and more,

i.imgur.com
 
2014-03-03 02:24:40 AM  

Dimensio: 21-7-b: i think he starts off with the idea that he can wind people up with what he sees as his rapier-like wit. once that fails it seems we must face pig-like squealing

I, personally, have enjoyed watching WhoopAssWayne prompt you liberals to cut and run for excuses for your dear leader, just as you did in 2008 when President Obama failed to react appropriately to the Russian invasion of Georgia.


1.bp.blogspot.com
 
2014-03-03 02:25:32 AM  

Dimensio: 21-7-b: i think he starts off with the idea that he can wind people up with what he sees as his rapier-like wit. once that fails it seems we must face pig-like squealing

I, personally, have enjoyed watching WhoopAssWayne prompt you liberals to cut and run for excuses for your dear leader, just as you did in 2008 when President Obama failed to react appropriately to the Russian invasion of Georgia.


The active Russo-Georgian conflict happened on August 7, 2008. Barack Obama didn't become President-Elect until Nov. 7, 2008. He did not become acting president until January 17, 2009.

So whoever was President before him would technically be responsible for doing or not doing something about that conflict. Whoever that person was. Probably another cut and run limp-wristed pussy liberal.
 
2014-03-03 02:26:23 AM  

Weatherkiss: The active Russo-Georgian conflict happened on August 7, 2008. Barack Obama didn't become President-Elect until Nov. 7, 2008. He did not become acting president until January 17, 2009.


[thats_the_joke.jpg]
 
2014-03-03 02:28:14 AM  

Dimensio: 21-7-b: i think he starts off with the idea that he can wind people up with what he sees as his rapier-like wit. once that fails it seems we must face pig-like squealing

I, personally, have enjoyed watching WhoopAssWayne prompt you liberals to cut and run for excuses for your dear leader, just as you did in 2008 when President Obama failed to react appropriately to the Russian invasion of Georgia.


Sara Palin isn't going to fark you. We went through all this last night cubby.
 
2014-03-03 02:28:19 AM  
The Island of Crimea.
 
2014-03-03 02:28:37 AM  

Dimensio: Weatherkiss: The active Russo-Georgian conflict happened on August 7, 2008. Barack Obama didn't become President-Elect until Nov. 7, 2008. He did not become acting president until January 17, 2009.

[thats_the_joke.jpg]


Well, double dumbass on me then.
 
2014-03-03 02:31:50 AM  

Weatherkiss: Dimensio: Weatherkiss: The active Russo-Georgian conflict happened on August 7, 2008. Barack Obama didn't become President-Elect until Nov. 7, 2008. He did not become acting president until January 17, 2009.

[thats_the_joke.jpg]

Well, double dumbass on me then.


it's still technically obama's fault
 
2014-03-03 02:33:10 AM  

Weatherkiss: Dimensio: Weatherkiss: The active Russo-Georgian conflict happened on August 7, 2008. Barack Obama didn't become President-Elect until Nov. 7, 2008. He did not become acting president until January 17, 2009.

[thats_the_joke.jpg]

Well, double dumbass on me then.


Were Barack Obama not President, I would have been unable to issue the sarcastic statement, and thus you would not have mistaken my sarcastic statement for a sincere expression.

Therefore, President Obama is to blame for your error.
 
2014-03-03 02:33:19 AM  

WhoopAssWayne: Putin will do what he wants. He baited, then humiliated Obama during the Syrian crisis. Obama was baited into going all in - only to find out he had no international support whatsoever. The rest of the world, led by Putin, just laughed their ass off. An embarrassment for Obama, humiliating for our position in the world. Obama will sit this one out.


No, he's already drawn the 'red line' again - by saying there will be 'consequences'.
 
2014-03-03 02:34:08 AM  

Dimensio: Weatherkiss: The active Russo-Georgian conflict happened on August 7, 2008. Barack Obama didn't become President-Elect until Nov. 7, 2008. He did not become acting president until January 17, 2009.

[thats_the_joke.jpg]

[the_joke_is_in_your_pants.jpg]

See I can do it too.
 
2014-03-03 02:34:43 AM  

Dimensio: Weatherkiss: Dimensio: Weatherkiss: The active Russo-Georgian conflict happened on August 7, 2008. Barack Obama didn't become President-Elect until Nov. 7, 2008. He did not become acting president until January 17, 2009.

[thats_the_joke.jpg]

Well, double dumbass on me then.

Were Barack Obama not President, I would have been unable to issue the sarcastic statement, and thus you would not have mistaken my sarcastic statement for a sincere expression.

Therefore, President Obama is to blame for your error.


Damn that Obama.
 
2014-03-03 02:37:04 AM  

WhoopAssWayne: Mentat: I'm going to miss chickens once they go extinct.

Were you a chicken when war-hawking for a new war in Syria?

All the Bush protest flags got rolled up. Put up under your beds. Until, of course, Obama wanted to start a new middle-east war, then we saw the greatest Fark anti-war liberals promote war every day.

Your guy is in office. Time for a new war?


I don't recall war hawking for Syria.  In fact, I think Obama handled Syria just fine using diplomacy.  I was simply making a chicken farker joke.
 
2014-03-03 02:39:14 AM  

Dimensio: Weatherkiss: Dimensio: Weatherkiss: The active Russo-Georgian conflict happened on August 7, 2008. Barack Obama didn't become President-Elect until Nov. 7, 2008. He did not become acting president until January 17, 2009.

[thats_the_joke.jpg]

Well, double dumbass on me then.

Were Barack Obama not President, I would have been unable to issue the sarcastic statement, and thus you would not have mistaken my sarcastic statement for a sincere expression.

Therefore, President Obama is to blame for your error.

img.pandawhale.com
 
2014-03-03 02:39:31 AM  

RogermcAllen: FTA:
"I, Berezovsky Denis, swear allegiance to the Crimean people and pledge to protect it, as required by the [army] regulations. I swear to take orders of Crimea and Sevastopol's Supreme Commander,"

I'm glad the US army doesn't have you swear allegiance to your hometown.  All of the gang bangers and poors would defect and declare the sovereignty of Detriot.


Then we could finally clean it up properly with a nice military sweep.
 
2014-03-03 02:43:25 AM  

Mentat: WhoopAssWayne: Mentat: I'm going to miss chickens once they go extinct.

Were you a chicken when war-hawking for a new war in Syria?

All the Bush protest flags got rolled up. Put up under your beds. Until, of course, Obama wanted to start a new middle-east war, then we saw the greatest Fark anti-war liberals promote war every day.

Your guy is in office. Time for a new war?

I don't recall war hawking for Syria.  In fact, I think Obama handled Syria just fine using diplomacy.  I was simply making a chicken farker joke.


What "war hawking" might look like:

86bb71d19d3bcb79effc-d9e6924a0395cb1b5b9f03b7640d26eb.r91.cf1.rackcdn.com
 
2014-03-03 02:47:01 AM  
I already had  Dimensio farkied as "Poe's Law up in this biatch" so I'm getting a kick...
 
2014-03-03 02:54:56 AM  

Dimensio: Weatherkiss: The active Russo-Georgian conflict happened on August 7, 2008. Barack Obama didn't become President-Elect until Nov. 7, 2008. He did not become acting president until January 17, 2009.

[thats_the_joke.jpg]


Okay fair dues. But the state of the boards lately can you really blame me?
 
2014-03-03 02:55:42 AM  

Dimensio: Weatherkiss: Dimensio: Weatherkiss: The active Russo-Georgian conflict happened on August 7, 2008. Barack Obama didn't become President-Elect until Nov. 7, 2008. He did not become acting president until January 17, 2009.

[thats_the_joke.jpg]

Well, double dumbass on me then.

Were Barack Obama not President, I would have been unable to issue the sarcastic statement, and thus you would not have mistaken my sarcastic statement for a sincere expression.

Therefore, President Obama is to blame for your error.


i28.photobucket.com
 
2014-03-03 02:56:09 AM  

ScaryBottles: Dimensio: Weatherkiss: The active Russo-Georgian conflict happened on August 7, 2008. Barack Obama didn't become President-Elect until Nov. 7, 2008. He did not become acting president until January 17, 2009.

[thats_the_joke.jpg]

Okay fair dues. But the state of the boards lately can you really blame me?


Alt-like typin' detected.
 
2014-03-03 03:03:38 AM  

HotWingAgenda: ScaryBottles: Dimensio: Weatherkiss: The active Russo-Georgian conflict happened on August 7, 2008. Barack Obama didn't become President-Elect until Nov. 7, 2008. He did not become acting president until January 17, 2009.

[thats_the_joke.jpg]

Okay fair dues. But the state of the boards lately can you really blame me?

Alt-like typin' detected.


Are you implying I'm his alt?
 
2014-03-03 03:05:24 AM  
I seem to recall that this guy was put in charge of the military after the deposed president pulled the general that wouldn't follow the orders to attack the civilians.   Now the military still did not attack the civies...so I assume this fellows words are pretty impotent.  Maybe he has control of the navy, maybe not.
 
2014-03-03 03:08:00 AM  

Dimensio: 21-7-b: i think he starts off with the idea that he can wind people up with what he sees as his rapier-like wit. once that fails it seems we must face pig-like squealing

I, personally, have enjoyed watching WhoopAssWayne prompt you liberals to cut and run for excuses for your dear leader, just as you did in 2008 when President Obama failed to react appropriately to the Russian invasion of Georgia.


well since that happened in august 7-16 of 2008 and he wasn't even elected yet I think we aren't really reaching.
 
2014-03-03 03:10:51 AM  

bromah: Dimensio: 21-7-b: i think he starts off with the idea that he can wind people up with what he sees as his rapier-like wit. once that fails it seems we must face pig-like squealing

I, personally, have enjoyed watching WhoopAssWayne prompt you liberals to cut and run for excuses for your dear leader, just as you did in 2008 when President Obama failed to react appropriately to the Russian invasion of Georgia.

well since that happened in august 7-16 of 2008 and he wasn't even elected yet I think we aren't really reaching.


Alright now I'm confused did I just pseudo apologize idiot or not?
 
2014-03-03 03:14:26 AM  

ScaryBottles: bromah: Dimensio: 21-7-b: i think he starts off with the idea that he can wind people up with what he sees as his rapier-like wit. once that fails it seems we must face pig-like squealing

I, personally, have enjoyed watching WhoopAssWayne prompt you liberals to cut and run for excuses for your dear leader, just as you did in 2008 when President Obama failed to react appropriately to the Russian invasion of Georgia.

well since that happened in august 7-16 of 2008 and he wasn't even elected yet I think we aren't really reaching.

Alright now I'm confused did I just pseudo apologize to an idiot or not?


Dammit!
 
2014-03-03 03:17:51 AM  
non-flushable wipes thread has more posts in it than this one.  what's that tell ya?
 
2014-03-03 03:35:27 AM  
I hope this doesn't screw up my deal for my mail order bride.
 
2014-03-03 03:42:35 AM  
I wish we had a president who had some kind of expert knowledge of Russia, maybe even spoke the language. Well, maybe next time...
 
2014-03-03 03:57:25 AM  
TheShavingofOccam123
He did withdraw troops from Iraq

He tried to keep troops in Iraq as that article clearly states.

and sent them into Afghanistan, as he said he would in his campaign.

Implying that somehow Afghanistan could be 'salvaged' (whatever that means- turned into yet another resource colony, like the good old days, maybe?)

He didn't believe fighting a 10 year oil war in a country that had nothing to do with the 9-11 attacks would lessen the chances of any further terror attack coming out of Afghanistan.

You presume to be able to know what Obama "believes". Did you look deep into his eyes and read the measure of his soul, perhaps? It's just as likely, based on his actions, that Obama is cynically manipulative, defending the status quo while painting it with a big smiley face so liberals will think there's something progressive about all of it. Citation: He's a politician.  For good reason, the most hated class of people in the country, if not the world, yet this one is somehow honestly a good person. Okay then.
 
2014-03-03 04:06:21 AM  
Gooooood Morning Crimea!!

pbs.twimg.com
 
2014-03-03 04:36:01 AM  
'Muricans are confused as to who to bomb due a lack of brown people in the region.
 
2014-03-03 04:41:57 AM  

Dimensio: Weatherkiss: The active Russo-Georgian conflict happened on August 7, 2008. Barack Obama didn't become President-Elect until Nov. 7, 2008. He did not become acting president until January 17, 2009.

[thats_the_joke.jpg]


Even more important is the argument that Putin might have felt "emboldened" by Obama's inaction to move into Crimea is BS.
In 2008 when he invaded an entire country with a non-Russian majority, he was dealing with a war hawk in the WH, surrounded by neocons.
South Ossetia as a strategic objective is not even remotely comparable to the Russian Black Sea bases in Crimea.
And guess what? Putin invaded anyway. He didn't give a fark about the US might say because it was obvious that not even GWB would be able to get the US involved in a conflict with Russia... over farking _Georgia_.

Geo-politically, places like Crimea are simply Russia's turf. Putin is gonna do what he's gonna do, regardless of what the US might threaten. Best the US can do is impose economic sanctions but that's about it.
Now if Putin decides to invade the rest of Ukraine that might be a different discussion, but I have a feeling that he would have done that as part of the initial effort rather than wait for the Ukrainians to mobilize first.
 
2014-03-03 04:47:43 AM  

Gawdzila: There's no way Crimea can be an independent state.  It is far too dependent on everyone around them for virtually everything to be economically viable.


It's on a peninsula a lot larger than say San Francisco, and well....it can happen.
 
2014-03-03 04:54:28 AM  
oi58.tinypic.com
 
2014-03-03 04:57:39 AM  

HotWingAgenda: Alt-like typin' detected.


..close enuff..
 
2014-03-03 05:03:53 AM  

RogermcAllen: ransack.: RogermcAllen: FTA:
"I, Berezovsky Denis, swear allegiance to the Crimean people and pledge to protect it, as required by the [army] regulations. I swear to take orders of Crimea and Sevastopol's Supreme Commander,"

I'm glad the US army doesn't have you swear allegiance to your hometown.  All of the gang bangers and poors would defect and declare the sovereignty of Detroit.

Herpyjerpy racialderp

I'll take the herpy derp, but not the racial derp.  This guy defected because his hometown was under a perceived threat and he feels compelled to protect it by the [army] regulations of the Ukraine.  It is fairly well known (I am lazy, so I'll pretend like wiki counts as a real citation http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gang_presence_in_the_United_States_milit a ry ) that there is a strong gang presence in the United States military.  If these gang members were to swear allegiance to their homeland of Detroit, SoCal, or any other place that gang members live instead of the US Army, then we could potentially face a situation where Detroit gang members declared sovereignty or the Sureño could decide to take SoCal back to Mexico.  We could also imagine a situation where Tea Baggers declare the rule of Obama void, swear allegiance to the South, and declare themselves a sovereign nation.  Since the US is a giant tossed salad, we can everyone in on the action.  Chicago would become part of Poland, Minnesota would be annexed by Sweeden, Miami would go to Cuba, and we would gladly give Wisconsin back to the Germans.


Now I want to play Shadowrun.
 
2014-03-03 05:07:50 AM  

WhoopAssWayne: LordJiro: The deal was that the chemical weapons, and the equipment for making them, were to be destroyed, under the UN's supervision. Nice try, liar.

Putin was behind that deal. Obama folded liked a cheap suit, hid under his desk, and pissed in his pants. Putin made that happen. That's why we have so little international standing now. Obama's failure as a leader at any level.


Lol ok
 
2014-03-03 05:14:22 AM  

Dimensio: 21-7-b: i think he starts off with the idea that he can wind people up with what he sees as his rapier-like wit. once that fails it seems we must face pig-like squealing

I, personally, have enjoyed watching WhoopAssWayne prompt you liberals to cut and run for excuses for your dear leader, just as you did in 2008 when President Obama failed to react appropriately to the Russian invasion of Georgia.


You're kidding, right? President Obama in 2008?
 
2014-03-03 05:21:35 AM  

ransack.: Dimensio: 21-7-b: i think he starts off with the idea that he can wind people up with what he sees as his rapier-like wit. once that fails it seems we must face pig-like squealing

I, personally, have enjoyed watching WhoopAssWayne prompt you liberals to cut and run for excuses for your dear leader, just as you did in 2008 when President Obama failed to react appropriately to the Russian invasion of Georgia.

You're kidding, right? President Obama in 2008?


Rhino_man: I already had  Dimensio farkied as "Poe's Law up in this biatch" so I'm getting a kick...


There goes another bite.  He's not  PocketNinja, but he's pretty good.
 
2014-03-03 05:22:45 AM  
I've really enjoyed watching everyone tear WAWayne apart for two and a half pages. Thanks for brightening my day, lords and ladies.
 
2014-03-03 05:25:30 AM  

ski9600: Hmmm, interesting.  If this works, then Crimea might become an autonomous region of Russia.

/I guess what BO said to PuttyPut had some nails after all


Autonomous... Russia...

Those words don't go together.
 
2014-03-03 05:30:51 AM  
All this is going to make my petrol price go up!
//Shakes tiny fist at despute
 
2014-03-03 06:05:57 AM  

flamingboard: ski9600: Hmmm, interesting.  If this works, then Crimea might become an autonomous region of Russia.

/I guess what BO said to PuttyPut had some nails after all

Autonomous... Russia...

Those words don't go together.


You'd be surprised, actually.
 
2014-03-03 06:55:03 AM  

LordJiro: WhoopAssWayne: LordJiro: Why SHOULD we intervene in Crimea or Ukraine?I know you idiots have a massive nostalgia-boner for th Cold War, but it's not happening. Get over it.

Are you on crack cocaine fool? I'm advocating for non-intervention and peace.

Which is totally consistent with you blasting Obama for not bombing Syria.


You missed the point.

No one wanted Obama to bomb Syria other than McCain of course. But to say he didn't look foolish when he drew his red line in the sand and had Kerry out in the world making sound bites about justification for bombing the Syrians is revisionist history.
 
2014-03-03 07:05:10 AM  

RogermcAllen: FTA:
"I, Berezovsky Denis, swear allegiance to the Crimean people and pledge to protect it, as required by the [army] regulations. I swear to take orders of Crimea and Sevastopol's Supreme Commander,"

I'm glad the US army doesn't have you swear allegiance to your hometown.  All of the gang bangers and poors would defect and declare the sovereignty of Detriot.


Are you saying that like it's a bad thing?
 
2014-03-03 07:08:17 AM  

WhoopAssWayne: LordJiro: The deal was that the chemical weapons, and the equipment for making them, were to be destroyed, under the UN's supervision. Nice try, liar.

Putin was behind that deal. Obama folded liked a cheap suit, hid under his desk, and pissed in his pants. Putin made that happen. That's why we have so little international standing now. Obama's failure as a leader at any level.


If I'm a bully who's gonna kick some kid's ass on the playground and the kid's friend can't stop me and tells the kid to give me his lunch money, I'm not the one who is humiliated.
 
2014-03-03 07:11:57 AM  
Huh, did not expect to wake up and find I got a greenlight on an international conflict headline that included the word "y'all".
 
2014-03-03 07:34:58 AM  

Kuta: The Bestest: Crimea is almost an island, but it is a peninsula...

Latin:
"paene" = "almost"
"insula" = "island"


fc09.deviantart.net

/may have known that, but if so I forgot, so thanks
 
2014-03-03 07:40:16 AM  
I wonder how far into barry's, "sniveling pleading begging please don't do this mr. President Putin sir" phone call did Putin tell obama to shut up, to not attempt to get involved with experienced world leader affairs and to just focus on his dopey obamacare train wreck scheme like he's been doing for the past 5 years.
I also wonder if barry whined about how the other world leaders laughed at obama's obvious lack of leadership or knowledge in these matters.
I also wonder if barry will be dropping some more of his "don't cross the redline" fake threats anytime soon.
 
2014-03-03 07:57:19 AM  

Launch Code: I wonder how far into barry's, "sniveling pleading begging please don't do this mr. President Putin sir" phone call did Putin tell obama to shut up, to not attempt to get involved with experienced world leader affairs and to just focus on his dopey obamacare train wreck scheme like he's been doing for the past 5 years.
I also wonder if barry whined about how the other world leaders laughed at obama's obvious lack of leadership or knowledge in these matters.
I also wonder if barry will be dropping some more of his "don't cross the redline" fake threats anytime soon.


Well, all that wondering should keep you out from underfoot, won't it?
 
2014-03-03 08:08:49 AM  
This thread should be marched into the woods and shot.
 
2014-03-03 08:17:09 AM  

Emposter: FTFA "Today the majority of the Ukrainian armed forces deployed in Crimea passed to the side of the authorities of the Crimean autonomous region. The transition was absolutely peaceful, without a single shot fired either by the military or by the forces of self-defense," a source told RIA Novosti news agency.

Well, that might make Russia think twice, at least for a minute...assuming that a peaceful transition means the forces are still at least somewhat functional.  They could still crush them, but the cost might not be considered worth it anymore.


Bullshiat, can we not link to Russian news sources. Not the most objectve on this subject. Ukrainian naval commanders have all reinforced loyalty to Ukraine (BBC)
 
2014-03-03 08:21:12 AM  

Debeo Summa Credo: This thread should be marched into the woods and shot.


The weather is especially derby today.
 
2014-03-03 08:24:48 AM  

Launch Code: I wonder how far into barry's, "sniveling pleading begging please don't do this mr. President Putin sir" phone call did Putin tell obama to shut up, to not attempt to get involved with experienced world leader affairs and to just focus on his dopey obamacare train wreck scheme like he's been doing for the past 5 years.
I also wonder if barry whined about how the other world leaders laughed at obama's obvious lack of leadership or knowledge in these matters.
I also wonder if barry will be dropping some more of his "don't cross the redline" fake threats anytime soon.


Sooooooo weeeeeeakkkkk...
 
2014-03-03 08:25:17 AM  
What danzak said. Crimea does not have their own navy, they have their own traitor of an ex-Ukrainin Navy Chief, that's it.

Also nobody is willingly going to the Russian side. At most a bunch of Russian military with AK-74s and APCs forced their way into a military installation and pushed the defenders out of a couple of buildings with flashbangs. Nobody returned fire because current Ukrainian leadership doesn't want to be the first one to fire (although in my book running around a foreign country with assault rifles and armored vehicles, throwing flashbangs constitutes the first shot).
 
2014-03-03 08:35:28 AM  

hestheone: I hope this doesn't screw up my deal for my mail order bride.


i was actually in ukraine just last month meeting the girl i met on a mail order bride site.  i'm sort of freaking out about this too.  as long as there is still uncertainty in kiev, she can't go and apply for her visa.  and she happens to live in odessa, which is just across the bay from the crimea.  i kind of feel lucky that i managed to go and visit her before the whole country fell apart, but now i'm wondering when i'll be able to see her again.
 
2014-03-03 08:40:27 AM  
Part of what people are overlooking here are the full implications of failing to honor the '94 treaty.

Sure - it damages our reputation (and Britain's, and Russia's).

But that's not all.

If we're going to take nuclear disarmament seriously, if countries are to be willing to bargain away their nuclear weapons for promises of territorial integrity, people have to be able to rely upon those treaties to do what their nuclear weapons did for them..

Failing to honor '94 means the NEXT nuclear power can't be negotiated into giving up their weapons. Not with promises that are empirically meaningless. We're supposedly negotiating with Iran to stop getting nukes. They're probably looking at Ukraine and thinking, "Nope - there is no substitute for having a nuke."

And that's the real tragedy of the '94 agreement; not the obviousness of being unwilling to help, not the fact that we're confirming to Eastern Europeans that nothing's changed, and not the "no shiat" that this isn't a Soviet thing but a Russian thing to be a domineering asshole. It's that we've just removed the single most powerful tool we had to minimize the number of nukes in the world.
 
2014-03-03 08:41:27 AM  
Well, since I can't post links, maybe I can post a news article, and y'all can Google it.

(Reuters) - President Barack Obama was caught on camera on Monday assuring outgoing Russian President Dmitry Medvedev that he will have "more flexibility" to deal with contentious issues like missile defense after the U.S. presidential election.

Obama, during talks in Seoul, urged Moscow to give him "space" until after the November ballot, and Medvedev said he would relay the message to incoming Russian president Vladimir Putin.

The unusually frank exchange came as Obama and Medvedev huddled together on the eve of a global nuclear security summit in the South Korean capital, unaware their words were being picked up by microphones as reporters were led into the room.

U.S. plans for an anti-missile shield have bedeviled relations between Washington and Moscow despite Obama's "reset" in ties between the former Cold War foes. Obama's Republican opponents have accused him of being too open to concessions to Russia on the issue.

Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney seized on Obama's comment, calling it "alarming and troubling."

"This is no time for our president to be pulling his punches with the American people," Romney said in a campaign speech in San Diego.

/it's on the internet
//it will never go away
 
2014-03-03 08:41:50 AM  

tlchwi02: we'd all like the ukraine to be free of russia and able to make its own decisions. sadly, there is not much we in the west can do other than send moral support.


Here are a few things that could help:

1) financial aid. After decades of corruption, Ukraine is broke. Aid from the EUROPEAN, US, Canada etc would go a very long way to stabilizing the situation in Ukraine. The current uncertain situation is really helping Putin. Some stability would help with securing the East and unoccupied parts of the South.

2) international pressure: economic sanctions, asset freezes and removal from the G8 (7). Russian economy relies heavily on oil and gas. That dependence can be exploited and sanctions would have an effective result. Threatening profits will put pressure on Putin from within.

3) military support: not boots on the ground, but NATO could help Ukraine secure its airspace but only if requested (which I think they have already). NATO or UN forces could also send observers to both Crimea and Kyiv (symbolic at this point). The worst case right now is for any side to start shooting, in fact I think Putins plan was that Ukrainian troops or self defense forces would do just that. The fact that they didn't has exposed him diplomatically.

4) give Putin a quiet way out of this. The man is an egomaniac, no way he leaves right now with all the international attention. He needs a quiet, backchannel way to end this.

Just my. 02
 
2014-03-03 08:49:39 AM  

Tatterdemalian: Well, since I can't post links, maybe I can post a news article, and y'all can Google it.

(Reuters) - President Barack Obama was caught on camera on Monday assuring outgoing Russian President Dmitry Medvedev that he will have "more flexibility" to deal with contentious issues like missile defense after the U.S. presidential election.

Obama, during talks in Seoul, urged Moscow to give him "space" until after the November ballot, and Medvedev said he would relay the message to incoming Russian president Vladimir Putin.

The unusually frank exchange came as Obama and Medvedev huddled together on the eve of a global nuclear security summit in the South Korean capital, unaware their words were being picked up by microphones as reporters were led into the room.

U.S. plans for an anti-missile shield have bedeviled relations between Washington and Moscow despite Obama's "reset" in ties between the former Cold War foes. Obama's Republican opponents have accused him of being too open to concessions to Russia on the issue.

Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney seized on Obama's comment, calling it "alarming and troubling."

"This is no time for our president to be pulling his punches with the American people," Romney said in a campaign speech in San Diego.

/it's on the internet
//it will never go away


This will have serious consequences in the next presidential election.
 
2014-03-03 09:03:30 AM  
Wow, just looked at a map of Crimea, there's actually a river that runs through the middle of Crimea named Crimea River. As in "Cry Me A River", haha. Awesome. I'm just catching up to you folks who already knew that...
 
2014-03-03 09:20:50 AM  

The Bestest: WhoopAssWayne: Putin humiliated Obama during the Syrian Crisis, owned him. That failure means we can't intervene in Crimea or Ukraine. Putin can do what he wants.

Are you talking about the failure that resulted in chemical weapons removal -without- having to commit US military forces?


Sorry buddy - they are still there.
 
2014-03-03 09:28:31 AM  

youmightberight: The Bestest: WhoopAssWayne: Putin humiliated Obama during the Syrian Crisis, owned him. That failure means we can't intervene in Crimea or Ukraine. Putin can do what he wants.

Are you talking about the failure that resulted in chemical weapons removal -without- having to commit US military forces?

Sorry buddy - they are still there.


http://www.business-standard.com/article/news-ians/new-shipment-of-c he mical-weapons-leave-syria-114022700022_1.html
 
2014-03-03 10:39:30 AM  

Agarista: A good re-cap for those of us who woke up late

http://www.forbes.com/sites/gregsatell/2014/03/01/5-things-you-shoul d- know-about-putins-incursion-into-crimea/


Thanks for the link.
 
2014-03-03 10:43:17 AM  

JackalRabbit: non-flushable wipes thread has more posts in it than this one.  what's that tell ya?


I'm starting to think this thread IS a non-flushable wipe.
 
2014-03-03 11:21:39 AM  

Scorpitron is reduced to a thin red paste: Tatterdemalian: Well, since I can't post links, maybe I can post a news article, and y'all can Google it.

(Reuters) - President Barack Obama was caught on camera on Monday assuring outgoing Russian President Dmitry Medvedev that he will have "more flexibility" to deal with contentious issues like missile defense after the U.S. presidential election.

Obama, during talks in Seoul, urged Moscow to give him "space" until after the November ballot, and Medvedev said he would relay the message to incoming Russian president Vladimir Putin.

The unusually frank exchange came as Obama and Medvedev huddled together on the eve of a global nuclear security summit in the South Korean capital, unaware their words were being picked up by microphones as reporters were led into the room.

U.S. plans for an anti-missile shield have bedeviled relations between Washington and Moscow despite Obama's "reset" in ties between the former Cold War foes. Obama's Republican opponents have accused him of being too open to concessions to Russia on the issue.

Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney seized on Obama's comment, calling it "alarming and troubling."

"This is no time for our president to be pulling his punches with the American people," Romney said in a campaign speech in San Diego.

/it's on the internet
//it will never go away

This will have serious consequences in the next presidential election.


Yeah Zer0bummeroingo is definitely NOT getting re-elected again
 
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