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(PennLive)   "Sorry ma'am, you can't get unemployment because you quit your job because you didn't want to drive 35 miles to work. Deal with it"   (pennlive.com) divider line 211
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2014-03-02 06:46:40 PM  
Yup. You quit your job, no unemployment. You have to get laid off.
 
2014-03-02 06:46:40 PM  
The US system is broken.
 
2014-03-02 06:47:07 PM  
Turns out the Republicans were right.  We need to deregulate the streets.
 
2014-03-02 06:48:05 PM  

Tillmaster: The US system is broken.


Any system that doesn't allow for an unwillingness to work within a 50 mile radius of Philadelphia is, by nature, a broken system.
 
2014-03-02 06:49:00 PM  
A 35 mile commute for a job that pays $11.48/hr?

Brutal.
 
2014-03-02 06:50:32 PM  
Can her unemployment pay for all the cheap make up?

www.pahorseproperty.com
 
2014-03-02 06:50:38 PM  
Thanks Bush/Clinton/Bush/Obama/NAFTA
 
2014-03-02 06:51:05 PM  
35 miles?  Lightweight.
 
2014-03-02 06:51:07 PM  
In before the idiots flood this thread to suggest that she should have moved closer to work.
 
2014-03-02 06:51:25 PM  

mbillips: Yup. You quit your job, no unemployment. You have to get laid off.



So refusing to be transferred 35 miles away is now "quitting"? Especially for a $11 an hour job?
 
2014-03-02 06:51:25 PM  
A boss actually said to me "I will not lay you off, I will make you quit. There's no way I am paying unemployment for you"  And yes, he then proceeded to try everything to make me quit.  And I eventually did.  Although, three days later he called me and begged me to consult for him.

Yes, the American system is broken.
 
2014-03-02 06:52:25 PM  
Should have used public transportation until they fired you for being frequently tardy.
 
2014-03-02 06:53:48 PM  
That's all sorts of messed up right there.

"Good news, worker! You get to keep your job. But the new job is a 70 mile round trip further away!"

"Um, no."

"Well, if you refuse, that's considered job abandonment, NO UNEMPLOYMENT BENEFITS FOR YOU!"

The punchline? The employer gets a refund of everything they contributed to their share of the unemployment that they paid. Not so much for workers. Workers NEVER get a refund.

...So yeah, employers have wide latitude AND motive to dick you around.
 
2014-03-02 06:54:09 PM  

Bonzo_1116: A 35 mile commute for a job that pays $11.48/hr?

Brutal.


Yeah, in the end she's taking home around $7 an hour. At that rate, she might as well get a job at Walmart (or wherever) and earn more than that with a shorter commute.

And that figure isn't even considering the wear and tear and upkeep of her vehicle. I drive up to 120 miles on some days, but travel is part of my job and I get reimbursed for time and mileage. She wasn't getting jack, so yeah, she did the right thing by quitting.
 
2014-03-02 06:54:15 PM  

The My Little Pony Killer: In before the idiots flood this thread to suggest that she should have moved closer to work.


I will not make that suggestion, she just should of had her chauffeur get up earlier.
 
2014-03-02 06:54:28 PM  
I currently drive 30 miles each way to work.  But I get paid a heck of a lot more than $11 / hr.


tripleseven: Although, three days later he called me and begged me to consult for him.


Which, if I'm not mistaken, means he doesn't have to pay payroll taxes or benefits.
 
2014-03-02 06:55:05 PM  
Wake up America, your goveernment and big business has sold all of your jobs down the river to the lowest bidder
 
2014-03-02 06:55:23 PM  
She is also a realtor for horse farms, so her commissions on that must make her bank, she must work at the schools for the benefits.
 
2014-03-02 06:55:54 PM  

Bonzo_1116: A 35 mile commute for a job that pays $11.48/hr?

Brutal.


I spent a year driving an hour and ten minutes to and from work for $8.50 an hour ten years ago. I had an old car with no working heater or air conditioner but it was still preferable to going on welfare and food stamps. I had a family to take care of so I did what I had to do.

Long story short, I'm still working there but moved closer after a while and now work as a manager.

She should have at least given it a try. I learned to enjoy the quiet drive. She might have, too.

/or not
//agree she didn't qualify for unemployment
 
2014-03-02 06:57:16 PM  

Bonzo_1116: A 35 mile commute for a job that pays $11.48/hr?

Brutal.


I worked a temp gig for six months that paid only $14 an hour after training (@$10 an hour), and had to drive 46 miles each way to the other end of the county to get there. In a 15 year old car with 200K+ really really hard miles on it. Took me more than two hours a day to commute. Where I work now I still have to drive 23 miles each way, but they pay me $70k a year and it's in a new (lease returned) car.
 
2014-03-02 06:59:04 PM  
She can make $5 more an hour slangin coffee at Tim Hortons up here.
 
2014-03-02 07:00:09 PM  
She should have moved closer to work.
 
2014-03-02 07:00:10 PM  

mbillips: Yup. You quit your job, no unemployment. You have to get laid off.


WOOHOO! Trolltastic, badly worded headline catches first sucker!
 
2014-03-02 07:00:52 PM  
Is the dumbass the woman?  Looks like the judge made a simple decision based on current law and existing precedent.
 
2014-03-02 07:01:52 PM  

Arkanaut: I currently drive 30 miles each way to work.  But I get paid a heck of a lot more than $11 / hr.


tripleseven: Although, three days later he called me and begged me to consult for him.

Which, if I'm not mistaken, means he doesn't have to pay payroll taxes or benefits.



Correct.
 
2014-03-02 07:01:57 PM  
No way you are going to win that case if you don't at least try the commute!
 
2014-03-02 07:02:20 PM  
So, let's consider this in other terms.

At $11.48 an hour, that is about $98 a day gross. Say you knock 20% off for taxes, Social Security, all that stuff. That leaves about $74

If she drives a car that gets the US average of 20 miles per gallon, that's about 3.5 gallons a day for a 70-mile round trip commute. So at the average price of gas in Pottstown, PA, that's $12.50 a day in gasoline.

So a 35-mile commute takes her take-home pay from $74 to $61.

In conclusion, her commute costs would amount to about 20% of her pay.
 
2014-03-02 07:04:35 PM  

Arkanaut: I currently drive 30 miles each way to work.  But I get paid a heck of a lot more than $11 / hr.


tripleseven: Although, three days later he called me and begged me to consult for him.

Which, if I'm not mistaken, means he doesn't have to pay payroll taxes or benefits.

Or worker's comp, or UI taxes, or basically anything else.  Correct.
 
2014-03-02 07:05:22 PM  
You can collect if you leave your job, you just have to wait a little longer before you start.
 
2014-03-02 07:06:03 PM  

theflatline: Can her unemployment pay for all the cheap make up?


$11.48 will not buy you much at sephora or anyplace else that sells makeup.
 
2014-03-02 07:10:27 PM  
As someone who drives to work further than she does each day for teaching, I do have to say were I not already an insomniac who preferred the quiet time and enjoyed driving, this would have had me switch positions quick.
 
2014-03-02 07:11:21 PM  

thegarthok: No way you are going to win that case if you don't at least try the commute!


All americans should become migrant workers
 
2014-03-02 07:13:57 PM  
I do not see the issue with this.
 
2014-03-02 07:15:18 PM  

Nix Nightbird: Bonzo_1116: A 35 mile commute for a job that pays $11.48/hr?

Yeah, in the end she's taking home around $7 an hour. At that rate, she might as well get a job at Walmart (or wherever) and earn more than that with a shorter commute.



Which is what most people do instead of going to court to argue for unemployment.
 
2014-03-02 07:15:34 PM  
So, she'll go on food stamps and welfare and we'll pay for it. And all the money she paid into a UI goes bye bye...but the employer gets a refund for their share.

The US is farked up.
 
2014-03-02 07:15:41 PM  
Nobody is entitled to a job, much less a good job.  She should be grateful to even have a job opportunity, which millions of people don't.  Suck it up, pray for forbearance, and work hard enough to become indispensable.

/not trolling
//I've worked in worse conditions, for less money
///it eliminated any sense of middle-class entitlement I felt
 
2014-03-02 07:17:19 PM  
Sounds like they wanted to fire her and did this. Dick move, but agree, no mailbox check for you.
 
2014-03-02 07:17:40 PM  
Ugh. Narberth. Add another hour on to the commute for the last 3 miles.
 
2014-03-02 07:18:17 PM  

Nix Nightbird: Bonzo_1116: A 35 mile commute for a job that pays $11.48/hr?

Brutal.

Yeah, in the end she's taking home around $7 an hour. At that rate, she might as well get a job at Walmart (or wherever) and earn more than that with a shorter commute.

And that figure isn't even considering the wear and tear and upkeep of her vehicle. I drive up to 120 miles on some days, but travel is part of my job and I get reimbursed for time and mileage. She wasn't getting jack, so yeah, she did the right thing by quitting.


The trick is to line up the Walmart job before quitting though.
 
2014-03-02 07:18:20 PM  
You have to be kidding me. No one in PA drives less that 35 miles to work, and they do it for way less money and far fewer days than this person. She wants to be paid $45k a year for a part time job and not drive for it? Hire a limo.
 
2014-03-02 07:18:20 PM  
I always thought that was the trade off; you get to enjoy the relative peace and quiet of living in a rural / small town area, but your likely to have to travel further for work and amenities.
 
2014-03-02 07:18:51 PM  
I recently got a job with a base salary that comes out to $12/hr, though I was supposed to be able to make an additional $1-2k per month extra if certain sales goals were hit. A month after I started they "adjusted" (aka increased) the sales goals which basically made it all but impossible to hit their numbers. Yeah, I'm actively trying to fired so they can pay my unemployment while I find a new job.
 
2014-03-02 07:19:15 PM  
At various times in my life, I'd have killed for only a 35 mile commute.  At one point, I was driving 29 miles from home to work for a seasonal job, then another 52 miles to volunteer as a college coach.  It was a crap job, but I stuck it out to get experience.

I've never had a commute of less than 39 miles.  You want to get ahead, you have to pay your dues.
 
2014-03-02 07:20:54 PM  

Tillmaster: The US system is broken.


Yeah, we need a system like European teachers who ride an hour on a bus each way going half as many miles for half the wages and double the taxes.
 
2014-03-02 07:21:18 PM  

Trixie212: Bonzo_1116: A 35 mile commute for a job that pays $11.48/hr?

Brutal.

I spent a year driving an hour and ten minutes to and from work for $8.50 an hour ten years ago. I had an old car with no working heater or air conditioner but it was still preferable to going on welfare and food stamps. I had a family to take care of so I did what I had to do.

Long story short, I'm still working there but moved closer after a while and now work as a manager.

She should have at least given it a try. I learned to enjoy the quiet drive. She might have, too.

/or not
//agree she didn't qualify for unemployment


Welcome to the world for those of that live in rural areas and have to travel to the city to get any sort of job.  Get a job at Wal-Mart close by and come out equal or ahead.  Some people actually need unemployment because they were laid off, not because they were feeling like a princess.  System sucks but hey, there's a lot of people that are much worse off.
 
2014-03-02 07:22:42 PM  
PA also takes a "right to work tax" out of your paycheck. This is in addition to the state income tax. And then Pottstown most likely (being a shiathole town with a school in PA) has a local income tax. She'd be lucky to clear $50 a day.
On the other hand, you simply cannot quit your job in PA and expect to get unemployment. Even if it's due to a hostile work environment. PA views unemployment as strictly being for lay offs.
 
2014-03-02 07:25:14 PM  

optikeye: So, she'll go on food stamps and welfare and we'll pay for it. And all the money she paid into a UI goes bye bye...but the employer gets a refund for their share.

The US is farked up.


It is.

She is a realtor for high end properties who doesnt use her commissions to pay for insurance, so she teaches school for low pay while enjoying the insurance benefits year around while she does her real job.

I have a neighbor here in Florida who does the same thing.  She lives in a 3 million dollar house, sells property and teaches school.

She recently tried to have teachers strike because of a benefit cut for those who work less than 20 hours a week(which she does) but god forbid she just paid for it out of her pocket.  She was over at my house recently bragging about a 75k commission she just made on a property.
 
2014-03-02 07:25:36 PM  
It should be illegal to require someone to have to commute that far.
 
2014-03-02 07:30:09 PM  

optikeye: So, she'll go on food stamps and welfare and we'll pay for it. And all the money she paid into a UI goes bye bye...but the employer gets a refund for their share.

The US is farked up.


Employees don't pay into unemployment as a direct payroll deduction.
 
2014-03-02 07:30:28 PM  
But without the commuters, who will use the roads?
 
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