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(Washington Post)   Garry Trudeau leaves "Doonesbury" again, maybe for good. "I can't assume I'll be welcomed back a year or two from now"   (washingtonpost.com) divider line 62
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2014-03-03 08:43:59 AM  

Autistic Hiker: Tyrone Slothrop: yakmans_dad: As much as I love Calvin and Hobbes, Pogo, and Krazy Kat, Doonesbury towers above the rest. He's just smarter, funnier, and has a greater range of sympathies than any other cartoonist.

Mmmm, no, Walt Kelly was and still is the best.

Best strips by decade:

1900s: Little Nemo in Slumberland
1910s: Krazy Kat
1920s: Krazy Kat
1930s: Li'l Abner/Dick Tracy
1940s: Terry and the Pirates
1950s: Pogo
1960s: Peanuts
1970s: Doonesbury
1980s: The Far Side/Calvin and Hobbes
1990s: Dilbert/Calvin and Hobbes
2000s: Penny Arcade
2010s: xkcd

/flame on


Penny Arcade and xkcd? Too narrow of scope.
 
2014-03-03 09:01:34 AM  

K3rmy: Confabulat: Trudeau always hated Bloom County because he considered it a direct ripoff.

In order to be a direct ripoff, Bloom County would have never been funny.


In Bloom County's first year or two, it was unabashedly a Doonesbury clone ... which was a big reason that it was selected for use as a "substitute" strip for Doonesbury's slot in the newspapers, during Trudeau's first extended hiatus (long before "re-runs" were even considered a possibility for newspaper comics).  Breathed would even occasionally lift old Doonesbury running gags, whole cloth:

kidzcomic.com

In the very earliest days, many of the main Bloom County cast of characters lived together in a boarding house -- prompting a gag in which Milo noted blatant similarites between the situation in his strip and Trudeau's:

yafh.com

Soon after Trudeau's return, Bloom County quickly blossomed into its own thing -- and Doonesbury, too, grew into a different strip than it had been, in the 1970s ... though still quite enjoyable.  As someone else said, above: once you get to know the cast of characters, Doonesbury can be appreciated on a separate level, apart from the politics-of-the-day.

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I've enjoyed Doonesbury throughout my life -- even though it seems to offer "re-runs" these days, as often as not.

The latest storylines -- which (among many other threads) sees Mike's daughter starting-up her own family and career, and Zonker setting himself and his nephew up as legitimate professional "growers" in Colorado -- seem to have most of the cast positioned for a happy ending ... if it comes to that.

That said, Foxtrot continues to be just as entertaining in "Sunday-only" form as it had been during its two decades as a daily feature ... so, I don't doubt Doonesbury can continue in the same vein.  ^_^
 
2014-03-03 09:08:06 AM  
The strip has just seemed tired and shopworn to me for some time now.  Time to let it go and move on.
 
2014-03-03 09:37:58 AM  

twiztedjustin: Is it going to be funny now?


Was it funny before? Or am I just tired of the endless wanking over a funhouse mirror that is boomer self-regard?

Yeah, I said "over". Gravity is a crueller mistress than time, Gare.
 
2014-03-03 09:46:38 AM  

Gosling: Autistic Hiker:
1890s: Katzenjammer Kids
1900s: Little Nemo in Slumberland
1910s: Krazy Kat
1920s: Gasoline Alley
1930s: Dick Tracy
1940s: Joe Palooka (I have no frigging clue; that was a weird decade)
1950s: Pogo
1960s: Peanuts
1970s: Shoe
1980s: Calvin and Hobbes
1990s: FoxTrot
2000s: Penny Arcade
2010s: xkcd

Had to toss Katzenjammer in there as basically the default for the decade.

I also made two side rules: one comic to a decade, and one decade to a comic.


Where's Thimble Theater?
 
2014-03-03 09:53:12 AM  

darkjezter: /somebody convince Gary Larson to start making the Far Side on a daily basis again.


Creative wells run dry. When Larson came back from his first sabbatical, the spark had gone, and the work was zany rather than comic. (The only zanies to ever be funny were the Mechanicals in Midsummer Night's Dream.) Larson had a great run. His fans shouldn't be greedy.
 
2014-03-03 10:20:59 AM  

arasmin: My only problem with this planned repeating is that the local paper might start running the repeats - the recycled Peanuts and re-written FBFW is bad enough. Dead/non-production strips should be removed to give new ones a chance.

/no YOU get of MY lawn you doddering old fart Peanuts lovers. They're ALL in books now!


That has more to do with comic strip syndicate greed, than with reader demand.

Though I don't doubt there would be some wailing & gnashing-of-teeth from some readers, if a pure "re-run" strip like Peanuts or Cathy were to be dropped -- the fact remains that the longer a comic strip feature remains in syndication, the higher the rates its syndicate can charge for them.

This is also the reason legacy comic strips are continually handed-off to a new creative team, rather than just allowing those creators come up with a new comic strip of their own; there's a far greater (and guaranteed) profit to be had in keeping a 50+-year-old strip going, than in circulating a brand-new strip which necessarily would bring in lower rates for the decade-or-so it might take to build enough of a loyal readership to "earn its keep" (in the syndicate's eyes).

The decline in the number of newspapers has only made it tougher for new titles to even get a shot at appearing in the actual physical funny pages.  Heavenly Nostrils -- itself among the best new syndicated comic strip features introduced during the past year or so -- appears "online-only," despite being every bit as fun and charming as many other "Universal Press Syndicate" strips which have run in newspapers for decades.
 
2014-03-03 10:24:46 AM  

Ishidan: Know what's more their speed?  An anthropomorphic duck who hasn't gotten any in over a decade.



Or a rage-addled Breitard who covers up his lack of drawing skills by re-using the same Illustrator cutouts

www.daybydaycartoon.com

Dude has some issues
 
2014-03-03 10:46:42 AM  
gwowen:
He also depicted Clinton as a lecherous floating waffle.

As to your other points: one of the key characters is a Nixon-supporting Republican, Vietnam Vet, ex-cop and military reservist. And one of the most beloved characters was a Republican Congresswoman. And the title character was a Reaganite in the 80s, before becoming a dot-com entrepreneur buying failed business assets cheap. And all of them portrayed sympathetically.


Sorry, "Fair and Balanced" is a trademark of Fox News.  Therefore, this cannot be fair and balanced. And he does not spend enough time lampooning librulz.

/selective perception, I'm sure you know.  Same thing that leads to sentences like "I was on food stamps and unemployment, and nobody helped ME out!"
 
2014-03-03 12:42:37 PM  

noazark: The decline in the number of newspapers has only made it tougher for new titles to even get a shot at appearing in the actual physical funny pages. Heavenly Nostrils -- itself among the best new syndicated comic strip features introduced during the past year or so -- appears "online-only," despite being every bit as fun and charming as many other "Universal Press Syndicate" strips which have run in newspapers for decades.


YES. Heavenly Nostrils is amazing.
 
2014-03-03 12:47:47 PM  
The  best cartoon since Calvin and Hobbes has already gone the way of all flesh: the cartoonist, Richard Thompson, became too ill to continue. Of course I mean "Cul de Sac."  The Otterloop family was wonderful. Thompson had his own voice.

http://www.gocomics.com/culdesac#mutable_1126093
 
2014-03-03 08:45:24 PM  

Tyrone Slothrop: Autistic Hiker: Tyrone Slothrop: yakmans_dad: As much as I love Calvin and Hobbes, Pogo, and Krazy Kat, Doonesbury towers above the rest. He's just smarter, funnier, and has a greater range of sympathies than any other cartoonist.

Mmmm, no, Walt Kelly was and still is the best.

Best strips by decade:

1900s: Little Nemo in Slumberland
1910s: Krazy Kat
1920s: Krazy Kat
1930s: Li'l Abner/Dick Tracy
1940s: Terry and the Pirates
1950s: Pogo
1960s: Peanuts
1970s: Doonesbury
1980s: The Far Side/Calvin and Hobbes
1990s: Dilbert/Calvin and Hobbes
2000s: Penny Arcade
2010s: xkcd

/flame on

Penny Arcade and xkcd? Too narrow of scope.


I'm not married to xkcd, but if anyone did better comic-stripping than PA over the last decade, or did more to realize the promise of the Internet as a comic-strip medium, I'd like to know their names.
 
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