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2014-03-02 09:39:50 PM  

gja: RottenEggs: twiztedjustin: Good for her.

Also, I only managed to ignore 1 person out of 85 comments. Fark, you're slipping.

The trolls are staying away from this one.

And yet, Lorelle is here trollin hard and long.


Lorelle is not "trolling". She is sincerely outraged that a citizen legally possessed a firearm and, even more offensive to her moral beliefs, that the citizen legally used the firearm in a defensive fashion.
 
gja [TotalFark]
2014-03-02 09:41:20 PM  

Penman: Lorelle: I defended myself with what I had on hand: a small pot of boiling chicken soup (I was standing at the stove in the kitchen when the break-in occurred). The guy yelled and ran out of my apartment.

So you understand the importance of being armed.
Though in many states, using that soup as a weapon would get you arrested for "harming" the poor robber.. they care about the victim more than you.


Yup. In NY she would get a gaggle of lawyers letters from the sharks the perp would hire to sue her butt into the next millennia.
 
2014-03-02 09:41:35 PM  

doglover: And that's really what weapons ownership is all about. You don't have a weapon because you want to use it, you have it because in the event you ever need it, you'll wish you had it. While you can jury rig a spear or sword out of household goods, handguns are probably a better choice. Much like the skunk, you keep it on the back burner. It doesn't define your existence, but if you ever need it it's there.


While I am uncertain as to my full opinion of your analogy of squirrels and skunks, I can state that I prefer it to the analogy of sheep and sheepdogs.
 
2014-03-02 09:42:59 PM  

hardinparamedic: Penman: You made a  CHOICE not to defend yourself with force. What happens from that point on is your responsibility.

Discretion is the better part of valor.

Chances are if she had a gun, and had tried to go for it she wouldn't be here typing this today.


Chances are you don't cook with a gun.

The gun is just a hotter pot of soup that you can keep by the bed. But any good interior decorating scheme should include throwable knick-knacks and some actual
weapons. Swords on the wall, knives in the kitchen, baseball bat and balls in the den, questionable african doll headed spear stick curio I don't know who bought me but was a good walking stick in the corner. The whole world's a weapon just waiting to be used.
 
2014-03-02 09:45:19 PM  

doglover: Oh heavens to mergatroid! Somebody broke into my home and pointed a gun at me 29 years ago! Oh the horror!

shiat happens. Get some therapy.

It's the fight or flight response, and you chose flight. There's another option. Squirrels flee from danger very successfully. But they live in constant terror and usually die in violence anyway. But skunks? Skunks own the forest. They, despite being walking snacks, have less stress than Willie Nelson three joints into breakfast. Why? Because of all the animals in the forest who fight, the skunk has the worst attack.

But this doesn't mean the skunk just walks around waiting for a chance to spray. They're actually just cool little guys who bumble through the forest looking for munchies and lady skunks. If they could, they'd go their whole life without spraying. But if push comes to shove, they can push back.

And that's really what weapons ownership is all about. You don't have a weapon because you want to use it, you have it because in the event you ever need it, you'll wish you had it. While you can jury rig a spear or sword out of household goods, handguns are probably a better choice. Much like the skunk, you keep it on the back burner. It doesn't define your existence, but if you ever need it it's there.


When one faces a serious threat to one's life, one has a tendency to remember it, even decades later. Therapy helps in the short-term, but the memory lasts forever. And yes, I did think about it yesterday, but I didn't spend the entire day dwelling on it.

And, as I mentioned above, I didn't flee (I couldn't--there was no way I could get to the door without going past him); I fought back with what was available.

I don't have a pet skunk, but there are several cans of chicken soup in my humble abode (among other, more dangerous things). :)
 
2014-03-02 09:49:36 PM  

anuran: al's hat:

Maryland requires you to retreat from an intruder in your home if at all possible.  If you shoot an intruder in the back you will be charged.  If you shoot an intruder in the front and tell the police you were afraid for you life you've got maybe a 50/50 chance of not being charged.  Maybe...

I'd like to see a citation on that. The last I heard Massachusetts was the last State that had a Duty to Retreat in your own home. And that changed within a year of Dukakis leaving office.


Apparently the duty to retreat only applies outside of the home.  But it looks like you have to actually be being attacked in your home to justifiably shoot and kill an intruder.

"[A] man faced with the danger of an attack upon his dwelling need not retreat from his home to escape the danger, but instead may stand his ground and, if necessary to repel the attack, may kill the attacker." Crawford v. State, 231 Md. 354, 361, 190 A.2d 538, 541 (1963). The Court of Appeals said in Crawford, a case in which the defendant fatally shot a younger man who was attempting to break into his home to beat and rob him."
 
2014-03-02 09:49:54 PM  

Dimensio: doglover: And that's really what weapons ownership is all about. You don't have a weapon because you want to use it, you have it because in the event you ever need it, you'll wish you had it. While you can jury rig a spear or sword out of household goods, handguns are probably a better choice. Much like the skunk, you keep it on the back burner. It doesn't define your existence, but if you ever need it it's there.

While I am uncertain as to my full opinion of your analogy of squirrels and skunks, I can state that I prefer it to the analogy of sheep and sheepdogs.


Because sheep and sheepdogs doesn't work.

Sheep will nig a farker up if you cross between ewes and lambs. Sheepdogs will, absent commands, probably befriend anyone with a piece of bacon or two.

Fight or flight, on the other hand... that works great. Both can save you, both have pros and cons. Ideally, you have both, but not everyone does.
 
gja [TotalFark]
2014-03-02 09:50:49 PM  

Lorelle: And, as I mentioned above, I didn't flee (I couldn't--there was no way I could get to the door without going past him


What? No windows?
 
2014-03-02 09:51:25 PM  

Lorelle: martid4: Lorelle: You'd think that the homeowner would get a clue after the first break-in and 1) put bars on the windows, or 2) move to a safer neighborhood.

I had to mark this as funny, it's so stupid it made me laugh.

Nah. What's stupid is wasting your life sitting around waiting to be attacked again.

Yesterday marked 29 years since someone broke into my apartment and threatened me with a gun. I moved to a safer neighborhood 2 months later, after my lease had expired.


You do realize that people like you moving out of the borderline safe areas are what eventually makes them utter sh*tholes for those who can't afford to move? All the God fearing upstanding citizens run further and further into the suburbs because they want to sleep easier at night.
 
2014-03-02 09:52:01 PM  

doglover: Sheep will nig a farker up if you cross between ewes and lambs.


moonbattery.com
www.somegif.com
 
2014-03-02 09:53:44 PM  

Lorelle: doglover: Oh heavens to mergatroid! Somebody broke into my home and pointed a gun at me 29 years ago! Oh the horror!

shiat happens. Get some therapy.

It's the fight or flight response, and you chose flight. There's another option. Squirrels flee from danger very successfully. But they live in constant terror and usually die in violence anyway. But skunks? Skunks own the forest. They, despite being walking snacks, have less stress than Willie Nelson three joints into breakfast. Why? Because of all the animals in the forest who fight, the skunk has the worst attack.

But this doesn't mean the skunk just walks around waiting for a chance to spray. They're actually just cool little guys who bumble through the forest looking for munchies and lady skunks. If they could, they'd go their whole life without spraying. But if push comes to shove, they can push back.

And that's really what weapons ownership is all about. You don't have a weapon because you want to use it, you have it because in the event you ever need it, you'll wish you had it. While you can jury rig a spear or sword out of household goods, handguns are probably a better choice. Much like the skunk, you keep it on the back burner. It doesn't define your existence, but if you ever need it it's there.

When one faces a serious threat to one's life, one has a tendency to remember it, even decades later. Therapy helps in the short-term, but the memory lasts forever. And yes, I did think about it yesterday, but I didn't spend the entire day dwelling on it.

And, as I mentioned above, I didn't flee (I couldn't--there was no way I could get to the door without going past him); I fought back with what was available.

I don't have a pet skunk, but there are several cans of chicken soup in my humble abode (among other, more dangerous things). :)


Honestly, I have it on good authority(my own) that scalds suck.

Like... really suck.

If they could make a boiling water super-soaker, that would be godawful scary but great for home defense.
 
gja [TotalFark]
2014-03-02 09:53:45 PM  

gja: Lorelle: And, as I mentioned above, I didn't flee (I couldn't--there was no way I could get to the door without going past him

What? No windows?


Left this out:
www.examiner.com
 
2014-03-02 09:55:20 PM  

a particular individual: One thing I've learned from this thread is thatconservatives have no idea how liberals in the real world feel about self-defense and responsible gun ownership. Here's a hint: We're not the stupid, pie-in-the-sky, la-di-dah caricatures Rush Limbaugh and Ted Nugent tell you we are.


Except I've seen far too many liberals saying "why not simply wound him?"  or "why did they fire multiple shots?"

mongbiohazard: I wonder what the best thing to shout would be then? Maybe just start barking orders like a cop does... Instead of "Stop or I'll shoot!" maybe a very aggressive "Get down on the ground NOW farkface!" Maybe trigger am instinctive learned response, evoking run ins with the police. Did the paper you read give any hints as to what DID seem to work to not end in a shooting?


My inclination would be "Stop!  Your next step will be your last!"

Misconduc: Few years ago a new law passed in Florida, if you are with someone who commits a felony, you get charged too. Sure enough 3 village idiots tried to break into a man's home, he warned and the kid still tried to climb through the window and got shot. The other two kids were charged with murder.
You would think this curbs violence, apparently not since the crime rate has "barely" dropped 5% since this. Fact is criminals will continue to be criminals, guns control this fact.


The felony murder rule.  Many places have it.
 
2014-03-02 09:55:31 PM  
The problem is however, you can say bad guys can't have guns, they laugh and show you their guns.

The best part of "gun control"
 
2014-03-02 09:55:41 PM  

gja: Lorelle: anuran: Lorelle: Farkage: Lorelle: You'd think that the homeowner would get a clue after the first break-in and 1) put bars on the windows, or 2) move to a safer neighborhood.

Sure, because everybody has money...right??

Guns don't cost money??

Decent used revolver: $200
Bars on windows: Easily a couple thousand bucks.
Moving: Tens of thousands, especially since you'll have to sell your high-crime home for a loss.

Replacing broken windows eight times isn't costly??

Oh group up you horses ass. You do not win this one, little miss 'no guns'.

BTW, window panes are about 5-10 bucks. Moving is just a tad more (like 10000 times more at least).


I don't care about your argument - the intruder had it coming.

I do want to know where you're getting home window panes for only $10. That's an incredible deal!
 
gja [TotalFark]
2014-03-02 09:56:25 PM  

doglover: Honestly, I have it on good authority(my own) that scalds suck.

Like... really suck.

If they could make a boiling water super-soaker, that would be godawful scary but great for home defense.


In many states you would be ruined at LEAST financially via lawsuits for undue harm and such.
You might wanna rethink that.
 
2014-03-02 09:57:23 PM  

gja: Lorelle: And, as I mentioned above, I didn't flee (I couldn't--there was no way I could get to the door without going past him

What? No windows?


They had bars on them.
 
2014-03-02 09:58:37 PM  

Dimensio: gja: RottenEggs: twiztedjustin: Good for her.

Also, I only managed to ignore 1 person out of 85 comments. Fark, you're slipping.

The trolls are staying away from this one.

And yet, Lorelle is here trollin hard and long.

Lorelle is not "trolling". She is sincerely outraged that a citizen legally possessed a firearm and, even more offensive to her moral beliefs, that the citizen legally used the firearm in a defensive fashion.


STOP TRYING TO SPOIL MY FUN, DAMNIT.

gja: Lorelle: And, as I mentioned above, I didn't flee (I couldn't--there was no way I could get to the door without going past him

What? No windows?


It was a studio apartment with one door and one big, long window in front. The kitchenette and bathroom were in the rear.
 
gja [TotalFark]
2014-03-02 09:58:40 PM  

MusicMakeMyHeadPound: gja: Lorelle: anuran: Lorelle: Farkage: Lorelle: You'd think that the homeowner would get a clue after the first break-in and 1) put bars on the windows, or 2) move to a safer neighborhood.

Sure, because everybody has money...right??

Guns don't cost money??

Decent used revolver: $200
Bars on windows: Easily a couple thousand bucks.
Moving: Tens of thousands, especially since you'll have to sell your high-crime home for a loss.

Replacing broken windows eight times isn't costly??

Oh group up you horses ass. You do not win this one, little miss 'no guns'.

BTW, window panes are about 5-10 bucks. Moving is just a tad more (like 10000 times more at least).

I don't care about your argument - the intruder had it coming.

I do want to know where you're getting home window panes for only $10. That's an incredible deal!


Buy the glass and do the glazing yourself. The glass is cheap at local places for simple panes. Right-angle cuts and nothing bigger than 2'x3'.
Single layer is cheap stuff.
 
gja [TotalFark]
2014-03-02 09:59:26 PM  

Farkage: gja: Lorelle: And, as I mentioned above, I didn't flee (I couldn't--there was no way I could get to the door without going past him

What? No windows?

They had bars on them.


Pity, that.
 
gja [TotalFark]
2014-03-02 10:03:01 PM  

Lorelle: Dimensio: gja: RottenEggs: twiztedjustin: Good for her.

Also, I only managed to ignore 1 person out of 85 comments. Fark, you're slipping.

The trolls are staying away from this one.

And yet, Lorelle is here trollin hard and long.

Lorelle is not "trolling". She is sincerely outraged that a citizen legally possessed a firearm and, even more offensive to her moral beliefs, that the citizen legally used the firearm in a defensive fashion.

STOP TRYING TO SPOIL MY FUN, DAMNIT.

gja: Lorelle: And, as I mentioned above, I didn't flee (I couldn't--there was no way I could get to the door without going past him

What? No windows?

It was a studio apartment with one door and one big, long window in front. The kitchenette and bathroom were in the rear.


I am enjoying this repartee immensely. It is like spit-roasting bugs on wire getting your ante up.
Too cold and out of season for fishing near me, so playing you like a trout on the end of a line will have to suffice.

BTW, if the bathroom was handy you might have tried flushing yourself. Or hiding in the shower and stopped breathing to trick him.
Of course the latter might have backfired if he was a necrophiliac.
 
2014-03-02 10:03:12 PM  

doglover: Lorelle: doglover: Oh heavens to mergatroid! Somebody broke into my home and pointed a gun at me 29 years ago! Oh the horror!

shiat happens. Get some therapy.

It's the fight or flight response, and you chose flight. There's another option. Squirrels flee from danger very successfully. But they live in constant terror and usually die in violence anyway. But skunks? Skunks own the forest. They, despite being walking snacks, have less stress than Willie Nelson three joints into breakfast. Why? Because of all the animals in the forest who fight, the skunk has the worst attack.

But this doesn't mean the skunk just walks around waiting for a chance to spray. They're actually just cool little guys who bumble through the forest looking for munchies and lady skunks. If they could, they'd go their whole life without spraying. But if push comes to shove, they can push back.

And that's really what weapons ownership is all about. You don't have a weapon because you want to use it, you have it because in the event you ever need it, you'll wish you had it. While you can jury rig a spear or sword out of household goods, handguns are probably a better choice. Much like the skunk, you keep it on the back burner. It doesn't define your existence, but if you ever need it it's there.

When one faces a serious threat to one's life, one has a tendency to remember it, even decades later. Therapy helps in the short-term, but the memory lasts forever. And yes, I did think about it yesterday, but I didn't spend the entire day dwelling on it.

And, as I mentioned above, I didn't flee (I couldn't--there was no way I could get to the door without going past him); I fought back with what was available.

I don't have a pet skunk, but there are several cans of chicken soup in my humble abode (among other, more dangerous things). :)

Honestly, I have it on good authority(my own) that scalds suck.

Like... really suck.

If they could make a boiling water super-soaker, that would be godawful scary but great for home defense.


Yeah, while you're at it you can chuck some paint cans on string at them, heat up doorknobs, and sic your tarantula at them. That will really show those Wet Bandits!

I'll stick to cutting the pie with my carbine.
 
2014-03-02 10:05:50 PM  

doglover:  Honestly, I have it on good authority(my own) that scalds suck.

Like... really suck.

If they could make a boiling water super-soaker, that would be godawful scary ...


After seeing pics of the lady who got scalded by McDonald's coffee...ugh.


Farkage: gja: Lorelle: And, as I mentioned above, I didn't flee (I couldn't--there was no way I could get to the door without going past him

What? No windows?

They had bars on them.


No, the window didn't have bars on it. The next apartment I moved into was a second-story unit. No bars, and no break-ins, either.
 
2014-03-02 10:07:49 PM  

Lorelle: Dimensio: gja: RottenEggs: twiztedjustin: Good for her.

Also, I only managed to ignore 1 person out of 85 comments. Fark, you're slipping.

The trolls are staying away from this one.

And yet, Lorelle is here trollin hard and long.

Lorelle is not "trolling". She is sincerely outraged that a citizen legally possessed a firearm and, even more offensive to her moral beliefs, that the citizen legally used the firearm in a defensive fashion.

STOP TRYING TO SPOIL MY FUN, DAMNIT.

gja: Lorelle: And, as I mentioned above, I didn't flee (I couldn't--there was no way I could get to the door without going past him

What? No windows?

It was a studio apartment with one door and one big, long window in front. The kitchenette and bathroom were in the rear.


*warning: threadjack*

Groundbreaking legendary DJ Porky Chedwick died today, age 96. Well worth a google.

/part of my farkie for you says "music" so I picked you, Lorelle
//sorry?
 
2014-03-02 10:10:10 PM  

gja: I am enjoying this repartee immensely. It is like spit-roasting bugs on wire getting your ante up.
Too cold and out of season for fishing near me, so playing you like a trout on the end of a line will have to suffice.

BTW, if the bathroom was handy you might have tried flushing yourself. Or hiding in the shower and stopped breathing to trick him.
Of course the latter might have backfired if he was a necrophiliac.


Me, too! It's pretty boring here right now...the ground is still wet from a few days' worth of rain and the Oscars aren't on yet. Worst of all, the neighbor who uses medical marijuana apparently hasn't been toking up today. The wonderful aroma usually wafts up here by this time of the day (well, MOSTLY wonderful...sometimes said pot smells like skunk).
 
2014-03-02 10:10:22 PM  
Can we please get a Government Enforcer to take this woman's gun away so that she can be a good little victim like she's supposed to? I'm sick of people like this who unapologetically oppress underprivileged folks who were just about to turn their lives around.
 
2014-03-02 10:11:52 PM  

BigNumber12: Can we please get a Government Enforcer to take this woman's gun away so that she can be a good little victim like she's supposed to? I'm sick of people like this who unapologetically oppress underprivileged folks who were just about to turn their lives around.


encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com
 
2014-03-02 10:12:38 PM  

Ivan the Tolerable: ultraholland: The woman claims she warned the intruder

fixed

 I would believe it. Been reading a couple of studies on self-defense shootings, and warning the assailant is not only pretty common, it most often is the catalyst that actually serves to -escalate- the event into a shooting.
 Apparently, the kind of violent mind that does home invasions is also the kind of mind that lacks pity/empathy, and so cannot understand a victims unwillingness to hurt them purely on human decency/moral terms. They can only interpret the extra effort and exposure to risk a victim assumes by giving a warning as purely an empty threat - as weakness and an unwillingness to follow through. Really, they can not interpret it in any other terms, lacking any context in their own lives of empathy or selflessness. (i.e. They wouldn't stick their neck out for any total stranger, much less one trying to hurt them, so they misinterpret a victims warning as merely weakness or bluff).
 There are many cases of victims being clearly armed, even firing warning shots, and unarmed attackers charging them anyway. -Especially- after warning shots, strangely enough (even in one extreme case, when they came from a man firing bursts from a fully automatic rifle!). Those are quite often misinterpreted as a clear and unambiguous lack of a victims willingness to actually shoot a human; As the attackers themselves would not have hesitated or exposed themselves to undue risk for an attacker, they cannot correctly interpret the same behavior in others.


Despite what you are implying, the majority of the time that a firearm is used to stop a criminal (by non-police), the weapon is not fired.  Most criminals have enough brain power to understand the risk of going up against someone who is armed.  The number of crimes prevented is believed to exceed 2 million a year, though the exact number will never be known because many of these situations go unreported.  Sometimes that's because the police will automatically confiscate the firearm and have a nasty habit of not giving them back.
 
gja [TotalFark]
2014-03-02 10:13:12 PM  

BigNumber12: Can we please get a Government Enforcer to take this woman's gun away so that she can be a good little victim like she's supposed to? I'm sick of people like this who unapologetically oppress underprivileged folks who were just about to turn their lives around.


Hey now! Governor Cuomo is working on just that effort here in NY.
 
2014-03-02 10:15:56 PM  

lindalouwho: *warning: threadjack*

Groundbreaking legendary DJ Porky Chedwick died today, age 96. Well worth a google.

/part of my farkie for you says "music" so I picked you, Lorelle
//sorry?


:(

I actually have heard of the guy...he ranks up there with Wolfman Jack and L.A. legends Huggie Boy and Art Laboe.
 
gad
2014-03-02 10:16:33 PM  

doglover: But guns are bad and are only used to shoot kids and have no legitimate place in society!


Absolutely. They are also good for suicides, murder suicides and accidental shootings of those kids in the house. And far more of them are killed than those people breaking in your house.
 
2014-03-02 10:18:02 PM  
doglover:
Squirrels flee from danger very successfully. But they live in constant terror and usually die in violence anyway. But skunks? Skunks own the forest. They, despite being walking snacks, have less stress than Willie Nelson three joints into breakfast. Why? Because of all the animals in the forest who fight, the skunk has the worst attack.

Dang!

That, my friend, is absolute, unconditional, 200 proof, pure eloquence.
 
gja [TotalFark]
2014-03-02 10:19:03 PM  

Lorelle: (well, MOSTLY wonderful...sometimes said pot smells like skunk).


Uh, that is called "dank", kiddo. Usually indicative of the upper THC percentages strains. Actually quite desirable, especially to one using it medicinally. Less needed to smoke or relief=less smoking=less exposure to inhaled smoke.
That person would be better served with a vaporizer. No products of combustion inhaled.

/no, i do not smoke
//yes, i am an engineer and all things tech interest me, including the above tech
///i also invest in developing tech, and see e-cigs and vape units that sell well as vehicles for companies to be M&A targets so...$$$$
 
2014-03-02 10:21:09 PM  
Epic thread .  Lots of favorited Farkers. today. I do have to give Lorelle  credit for standing her ground here . Too bad the rest of the Fark trolls never bothered to show up : (
 
2014-03-02 10:24:39 PM  

gad: doglover: But guns are bad and are only used to shoot kids and have no legitimate place in society!

Absolutely. They are also good for suicides, murder suicides and accidental shootings of those kids in the house. And far more of them are killed than those people breaking in your house.


Suicides are a personal choice.
I grew up in a home with guns, no fatalities. No kids anyway.
Not planning on killing anyone, so no murder suicides this week.

Sounds like you're just a horrible person who wants to harm other people and you're afraid of that and you've attached those fears to an inanimate object as a symbol of the darkness in your own soul and it tears you up inside that sane people can pick up a gun and not hear the voices you must if that's honestly your opinion.
 
2014-03-02 10:25:02 PM  

gja: Lorelle: (well, MOSTLY wonderful...sometimes said pot smells like skunk).

Uh, that is called "dank", kiddo. Usually indicative of the upper THC percentages strains. Actually quite desirable, especially to one using it medicinally. Less needed to smoke or relief=less smoking=less exposure to inhaled smoke.
That person would be better served with a vaporizer. No products of combustion inhaled.

/no, i do not smoke
//yes, i am an engineer and all things tech interest me, including the above tech
///i also invest in developing tech, and see e-cigs and vape units that sell well as vehicles for companies to be M&A targets so...$$$$


When that dude smokes bad weed, the first thought that comes to mind is, "Oh shiat...now I have to close the windows."

RottenEggs: Epic thread .  Lots of favorited Farkers. today. I do have to give Lorelle  credit for standing her ground here . Too bad the rest of the Fark trolls never bothered to show up : (


So I've noticed.  SOMEONE has to keep things lively around here. I'm pissed that the others aren't doing their fair share.
 
2014-03-02 10:25:03 PM  

gad: doglover: But guns are bad and are only used to shoot kids and have no legitimate place in society!

Absolutely. They are also good for suicides, murder suicides and accidental shootings of those kids in the house. And far more of them are killed than those people breaking in your house.


2/10
 
2014-03-02 10:26:23 PM  

BigNumber12: Can we please get a Government Enforcer to take this woman's gun away so that she can be a good little victim like she's supposed to? I'm sick of people like this who unapologetically oppress underprivileged folks who were just about to turn their lives around.


Wow, you sure did wallop that strawman. I bet he'll never question your intellectual capacity again.
 
2014-03-02 10:26:25 PM  

Dimensio: the ha ha guy: /I've been called both a gun-grabber and an NRA shill. In the same thread. For the same comment...

Speculation: in a single post you endorsed both universal background checks while rejecting a ban on scary-looking rifles (due to the presence of handgrips that stick out from the stock) as ineffective.


Not even that, I speculated on the effectiveness of a full ban and confiscation of everything but bolt-action rifles. (I don't support bans or confiscation at all, I was just throwing the question out there for the uber-libs)

The gun-nuts rightfully called me a gun-grabber, but quite a few of the self-proclaimed liberals in that thread were unwilling to settle for anything less than a total confiscation of anything and everything that shoots any type of projectile.
 
2014-03-02 10:26:28 PM  

Lorelle: Farkage: Lorelle: Farkage: Lorelle: You'd think that the homeowner would get a clue after the first break-in and 1) put bars on the windows, or 2) move to a safer neighborhood.

Sure, because everybody has money...right??

Guns don't cost money??

Are you even attempting to suggest a gun is as expensive as moving???

Depends...you can get family and friends to help you move.


And since your point is obviously to move to a safer place, the home prices will surely be the same in a better neighborhood, right?
 
gja [TotalFark]
2014-03-02 10:27:00 PM  

RottenEggs: Epic thread .  Lots of favorited Farkers. today. I do have to give Lorelle  credit for standing her ground here . Too bad the rest of the Fark trolls never bothered to show up : (


They knew better. There is only so much derp you can allow to run in your veins before it causes spontaneous faker combustion.

I do have to give Lorelle  credit for standing her ground here .
Oooooh, I don't think that's a analogy she will like. You just Zimmed her.
 
gja [TotalFark]
2014-03-02 10:28:47 PM  

the ha ha guy: but quite a few of the self-proclaimed liberals in that thread were unwilling to settle for anything less than a total confiscation of anything and everything that shoots any type of projectile.


Welp, there goes my penis!
 
2014-03-02 10:28:57 PM  
"Someone breaks into your house, you Kill him! That way there's only One side to the story." - G.Gordon Liddy
 
gja [TotalFark]
2014-03-02 10:30:05 PM  

gja: RottenEggs: Epic thread .  Lots of favorited Farkers. today. I do have to give Lorelle  credit for standing her ground here . Too bad the rest of the Fark trolls never bothered to show up : (

They knew better. There is only so much derp you can allow to run in your veins before it causes spontaneous faRker combustion.

I do have to give Lorelle  credit for standing her ground here .
Oooooh, I don't think that's a analogy she will like. You just Zimmed her.


/FTFM
 
2014-03-02 10:30:32 PM  

quantum_jellyroll: doglover:
Squirrels flee from danger very successfully. But they live in constant terror and usually die in violence anyway. But skunks? Skunks own the forest. They, despite being walking snacks, have less stress than Willie Nelson three joints into breakfast. Why? Because of all the animals in the forest who fight, the skunk has the worst attack.

Dang!

That, my friend, is absolute, unconditional, 200 proof, pure eloquence.


I don't know if
I'm comin' or goin',
if it's them or me.
All I know is
Willie Neslon
sure smokes killer weed.
 
2014-03-02 10:33:15 PM  

Loren: My inclination would be "Stop! Your next step will be your last!"


I suspect that a good number of people would take that as "disrespect" and would feel compelled to put you in your place.
 
2014-03-02 10:36:53 PM  

veedeevadeevoodee: [media.giphy.com image 140x140]

/ no trial, no reports to file


Maybe next time you'll try reading the article.  I wouldn't wager on it, but it is a good suggestion.
 
2014-03-02 10:37:30 PM  
I'm going to go ahead and vote that someone breaking into a house is in fact news.
 
2014-03-02 10:45:29 PM  

FnkyTwn: If she's white she'll be plastered all over Fox for the next week. (especially if the dead guy is black)

If she's black this story won't make it past Monday. (Tuesday if the dead guy is black)

Conservatives like guns about as equally as they dislike the idea of blacks with guns.


If she's white, you can expect Al Sharpton to march on Detroit and demand she go to trial, and MSNBC will call her a racist that gunned down an unarmed 6 year old black boy.

See? I can make stupid generalizations, too.
 
2014-03-02 10:47:01 PM  

doglover: Dimensio: doglover: And that's really what weapons ownership is all about. You don't have a weapon because you want to use it, you have it because in the event you ever need it, you'll wish you had it. While you can jury rig a spear or sword out of household goods, handguns are probably a better choice. Much like the skunk, you keep it on the back burner. It doesn't define your existence, but if you ever need it it's there.

While I am uncertain as to my full opinion of your analogy of squirrels and skunks, I can state that I prefer it to the analogy of sheep and sheepdogs.

Because sheep and sheepdogs doesn't work.

Sheep will nig a farker up if you cross between ewes and lambs. Sheepdogs will, absent commands, probably befriend anyone with a piece of bacon or two.

Fight or flight, on the other hand... that works great. Both can save you, both have pros and cons. Ideally, you have both, but not everyone does.


Somebody doesn't understand how sheepdogs work.
 
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