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(CNN)   It is also going pear shaped: Ukraine mobilizes it troops and calls up the reserves, large crowds demonstrate in Moscow demanding Russia invade, the Ukrainian Navy Chief declares loyalty to an "independent Crimea"   (cnn.com) divider line 431
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2014-03-02 04:23:22 PM
This is not going to end well.
 
2014-03-02 04:32:16 PM
Russia. Russia never changes.
 
2014-03-02 04:36:18 PM
The Navy dude was dismissed hours ago.

Cut n paste and keep up for yourself:

http://www.kyivpost.com/content/ukrai ne/russias-invasion-of-crimea-li v e-updates-338096.html
 
2014-03-02 04:41:27 PM
The Cold War is back, baby! The Muslims were an uncivilized foe. Good to have the USSR stomping around eastern Europe again.
 
2014-03-02 05:01:39 PM
World War III: Electric Boogaloo?
 
2014-03-02 05:03:01 PM

Contrabulous Flabtraption: The Cold War is back, baby! The Muslims were an uncivilized foe. Good to have the USSR stomping around eastern Europe again.


We old school right winger s missed the Bear. Hibernation has done it some good and now we'll have some REAL thrillers and action movies.
 
2014-03-02 05:03:33 PM
Russians have hotter women. The DNA must dominate.
 
2014-03-02 05:03:43 PM
Off to buy stock in Tom Clancy, inc
 
2014-03-02 05:06:11 PM

megatard: Russians have hotter women. The DNA must dominate.


Uh. What.
 
2014-03-02 05:06:18 PM
I wonder if the US will get involved when there's the prospect of a well tooled army on the other side of the battlefield, and if so how 14 years of  slow burn war in the Middle East will help or hinder them?
 
2014-03-02 05:06:24 PM

paulseta: Russia. Russia never changes.


What has changed is Republicans are now cheering FOR Russia and against the US, because 0bummer.
 
2014-03-02 05:07:01 PM
how appropriate that doctor strangelove is back on streaming
 
2014-03-02 05:07:13 PM
fark you Yeltsin, for unleashing your asshole on the world stage. Burn in hell.
 
2014-03-02 05:07:19 PM
What a pear shaped loser
 
2014-03-02 05:07:23 PM
This is going about how I expected.  Russia will move its troops into the Crimea region with claims that Russian-speakers are in danger.

Without deliberately Godwinning the thread, this is the same sort of rationalization that Hitler used to justify their own expansions before WWII.  German speakers were in mortal peril and thus, it was okay for them to invade other regions.

Russia is burning a 'lot' of bridges with this, and world opinion is solidly against them over it.  At this point, it doesn't matter if they lose their warm water ports or not, anymore, they're going to suffer for a long time, economically and politically.  They've managed to scare the entirety of Eastern Europe 'and' unite the EU again.
 
2014-03-02 05:08:38 PM
fark Russia and all the morans in the US that support Putin.
 
2014-03-02 05:08:46 PM
Subby should have used a news site for this...
 
2014-03-02 05:09:01 PM
They shouldn't Russian to anything
 
2014-03-02 05:09:24 PM

digistil: paulseta: Russia. Russia never changes.

What has changed is Republicans are now cheering FOR Russia and against the US, because 0bummer.


So either Russia is our close ally and Obama is a warmongering dictator who ignores congress and the constitution for wanting action against them.

Or Russia is run by a commie warlord and it's our duty as Americans to intervene and teach those neo-soviets a lesson, and Obama is an empty suit limp-wristed pussy for keeping America out of it.

It's like a choose your own adventure book, with more potato.
 
KIA
2014-03-02 05:09:44 PM

Infernalist: they're going to suffer for a long time, economically and politically


How, exactly?  Will their mailboxes be cluttered with letters condemning their actions?
 
2014-03-02 05:10:49 PM
Still obligatory:

jaypgreene.files.wordpress.com
 
2014-03-02 05:11:11 PM
So, DNRTFA in depth, but can someone explain why popular opinion in Russia would be in favor of invasion? I confess I'm rather ignorant of eastern European geopolitics..
 
2014-03-02 05:11:27 PM
I think the important question to ask is - How does this affect the porn industry?
 
2014-03-02 05:11:46 PM

megatard: Russians have hotter women. The DNA must dominate.


Than Ukrainian?

Not likely.

And that's from someone who is fully aware of how hot Russian women can be.
 
2014-03-02 05:11:56 PM
Cue the UN and EU demanding that the US do something in 3...2...1...

Everyone hates cops, until you need one.   You can't have a Legislative Branch w/o an Executive.
 
2014-03-02 05:12:09 PM

KIA: Infernalist: they're going to suffer for a long time, economically and politically

How, exactly?  Will their mailboxes be cluttered with letters condemning their actions?


0/10
 
2014-03-02 05:12:24 PM

TheJoe03: fark Russia and all the morans in the US that support Putin.


Yeah, we should throw Putin supporters like Sarah Palin and Mitt Romney in jail.

/that way, they won't even be able to warn anyone next time
 
2014-03-02 05:12:28 PM

EatenTheSun: I think the important question to ask is - How does this affect the porn industry?


Thankfully, they're nowhere near Prague.
 
2014-03-02 05:13:20 PM

Weatherkiss: digistil: paulseta: Russia. Russia never changes.

What has changed is Republicans are now cheering FOR Russia and against the US, because 0bummer.

So either Russia is our close ally and Obama is a warmongering dictator who ignores congress and the constitution for wanting action against them.

Or Russia is run by a commie warlord and it's our duty as Americans to intervene and teach those neo-soviets a lesson, and Obama is an empty suit limp-wristed pussy for keeping America out of it.

It's like a choose your own adventure book, with more potato.


Bring into the conversation that Obama has recently announced plans to significantly downsize the us military, and things get even more potato.
 
2014-03-02 05:13:51 PM

GleeUnit: So, DNRTFA in depth, but can someone explain why popular opinion in Russia would be in favor of invasion? I confess I'm rather ignorant of eastern European geopolitics..


Maybe they are strongly in favor of a missile defense system in Poland?
 
2014-03-02 05:13:56 PM

strangeluck: World War III: Nuclear Boogaloo?


Fixed that for you.
 
2014-03-02 05:14:46 PM

KIA: Infernalist: they're going to suffer for a long time, economically and politically

How, exactly?  Will their mailboxes be cluttered with letters condemning their actions?


For one thing, it's pushing the EU to find their own sources of natural gas so that Russia no longer has any influence over them.

Secondly, the Russian sorry excuse for agriculture still can't feed all their people and they still have to import vast amounts of food.

Thirdly, they're deliberately antagonizing their neighbors into taking a defensive stance which leads to alliances, both militarily and economically, against Russian interests.

See, for the last few years, Putin has been playing a game of throwing money and support to his neighbors, trying restore Russia to a position of authority.  This whole Ukrainian thing has shot that straight to hell and everyone is now convinced that the new Russia is the same as the old Russia and the whole of Eurasia knows how to react to an aggressive Russia.

In short, they've given NATO and Europe all new reasons to work together again.  Because fark Russia.
 
2014-03-02 05:14:48 PM

GleeUnit: So, DNRTFA in depth, but can someone explain why popular opinion in Russia would be in favor of invasion? I confess I'm rather ignorant of eastern European geopolitics..


Many people feel the fall of the Soviet Union was the biggest mistake in Russian history. Putin wants to rebuild the Soviet Empire and the people want him to do that.
 
2014-03-02 05:14:51 PM

zerkalo: fark you Yeltsin, for unleashing your asshole on the world stage. Burn in hell.


To be fair it was unconscious decision
 
2014-03-02 05:15:04 PM

namegoeshere: Weatherkiss: digistil: paulseta: Russia. Russia never changes.

What has changed is Republicans are now cheering FOR Russia and against the US, because 0bummer.

So either Russia is our close ally and Obama is a warmongering dictator who ignores congress and the constitution for wanting action against them.

Or Russia is run by a commie warlord and it's our duty as Americans to intervene and teach those neo-soviets a lesson, and Obama is an empty suit limp-wristed pussy for keeping America out of it.

It's like a choose your own adventure book, with more potato.

Bring into the conversation that Obama has recently announced plans to significantly downsize the us military, and things get even more potato.


Things will get potato, and we will be lucky to live through it.
 
2014-03-02 05:15:05 PM

Tatterdemalian: TheJoe03: fark Russia and all the morans in the US that support Putin.

Yeah, we should throw Putin supporters like Sarah Palin and Mitt Romney in jail.

/that way, they won't even be able to warn anyone next time


Uh ok.
 
2014-03-02 05:15:43 PM

wxboy: Still obligatory:

[jaypgreene.files.wordpress.com image 618x347]


Reverse mortgages are obligatory?
 
2014-03-02 05:17:13 PM

GleeUnit: So, DNRTFA in depth, but can someone explain why popular opinion in Russia would be in favor of invasion? I confess I'm rather ignorant of eastern European geopolitics..


Same reason popular opinion in Nazi Germany was in favor of invading the Sudetenland.

/and I do mean, literally, the exact same reasons
//I'd link to a more detailed explanation, but FARK doesn't let me do that any more
 
2014-03-02 05:17:24 PM
Is there any reason why Ukraine can't be partitioned between the pro-West west and the pro-Russian east? Except that the pro-West west would lose their nice spiffy Crimean port and all those rich creamy oil fields?

Just asking, before things devolve into the Soviet Invasion of the Baltic again.
 
2014-03-02 05:19:11 PM

Gyrfalcon: Is there any reason why Ukraine can't be partitioned between the pro-West west and the pro-Russian east? Except that the pro-West west would lose their nice spiffy Crimean port and all those rich creamy oil fields?

Just asking, before things devolve into the Soviet Invasion of the Baltic again.


Well, for one thing, the Ukrainians take offense to having their country partitioned off because Russia wants those warm water ports.

Secondly, the only reason why there's a pro-Russian East is because Stalin transplanted droves of Russians into eastern Ukraine after moving droves of Ukrainians to Siberia.
 
2014-03-02 05:19:40 PM

megatard: Russians have hotter women. The DNA must dominate.


funnypicturesutopia.com
 
2014-03-02 05:19:48 PM

Gyrfalcon: Is there any reason why Ukraine can't be partitioned between the pro-West west and the pro-Russian east? Except that the pro-West west would lose their nice spiffy Crimean port and all those rich creamy oil fields?



i53.photobucket.com
 
2014-03-02 05:21:43 PM

Infernalist: This is going about how I expected.  Russia will move its troops into the Crimea region with claims that Russian-speakers are in danger.

Without deliberately Godwinning the thread, this is the same sort of rationalization that Hitler used to justify their own expansions before WWII.  German speakers were in mortal peril and thus, it was okay for them to invade other regions.

Russia is burning a 'lot' of bridges with this, and world opinion is solidly against them over it.  At this point, it doesn't matter if they lose their warm water ports or not, anymore, they're going to suffer for a long time, economically and politically.  They've managed to scare the entirety of Eastern Europe 'and' unite the EU again.


Probably not. The US isn't going to do much more than impose sanctions - which won't have much of an effect once Europe decides to bypass them in order to get the Russian fossil fuels that it needs to survive. NATO and other defense organizations set up to counter the Soviets will sit back and do nothing as long as their direct states aren't under attack - as long as the Russians keep to former Soviet states who are not part of the EU or NATO, Russia is going to have free reign to do what they want.

Maybe if the West had stayed out of Iraq there might be an appetite for potential war with Russia. But after a decade or so in Iraq - and, arguably,  losing - the West isn't quite willing to commit to hostilities with an army we spent 50 years terrified of. An enemy that we're quite certain can stand up to us and perhaps even go toe to toe with us.

/on the other hand, mass militarization of Europe might be just what the world needs to pull up the world economy. You have European countries suddenly spending the same amount of their GDP on military expenditures as the USA is, you have Germany decide it's time to get militarized again, maybe even have Japan join in the fun, and bam! Huge amount of Right-Wing Approved Stimulus!
 
2014-03-02 05:21:47 PM
Mother Jones had a pretty good take on things.

Here's What Is Going To Happen With Ukraine
 
2014-03-02 05:25:24 PM

Gyrfalcon: Is there any reason why Ukraine can't be partitioned between the pro-West west and the pro-Russian east? Except that the pro-West west would lose their nice spiffy Crimean port and all those rich creamy oil fields?

Just asking, before things devolve into the Soviet Invasion of the Baltic again.


Short answer? The pro west side gets all chummy with NATO, the pro russian side gets all chummy with russia.

Then someone starts shooting.

A partitian of Ukraine is about the worst thing that can happen.
 
2014-03-02 05:26:42 PM
 
2014-03-02 05:26:44 PM

Techhell: Infernalist: This is going about how I expected.  Russia will move its troops into the Crimea region with claims that Russian-speakers are in danger.

Without deliberately Godwinning the thread, this is the same sort of rationalization that Hitler used to justify their own expansions before WWII.  German speakers were in mortal peril and thus, it was okay for them to invade other regions.

Russia is burning a 'lot' of bridges with this, and world opinion is solidly against them over it.  At this point, it doesn't matter if they lose their warm water ports or not, anymore, they're going to suffer for a long time, economically and politically.  They've managed to scare the entirety of Eastern Europe 'and' unite the EU again.

Probably not. The US isn't going to do much more than impose sanctions - which won't have much of an effect once Europe decides to bypass them in order to get the Russian fossil fuels that it needs to survive. NATO and other defense organizations set up to counter the Soviets will sit back and do nothing as long as their direct states aren't under attack - as long as the Russians keep to former Soviet states who are not part of the EU or NATO, Russia is going to have free reign to do what they want.

Maybe if the West had stayed out of Iraq there might be an appetite for potential war with Russia. But after a decade or so in Iraq - and, arguably,  losing - the West isn't quite willing to commit to hostilities with an army we spent 50 years terrified of. An enemy that we're quite certain can stand up to us and perhaps even go toe to toe with us.

/on the other hand, mass militarization of Europe might be just what the world needs to pull up the world economy. You have European countries suddenly spending the same amount of their GDP on military expenditures as the USA is, you have Germany decide it's time to get militarized again, maybe even have Japan join in the fun, and bam! Huge amount of Right-Wing Approved Stimulus!


Well, right off the bat, I thank 'god' that there's no 'appetite for potential war.'  The fact that you say such a thing with a sense of longing frankly disturbs me.

Secondly, I think you underestimate the absolute terror that a revived Russia with Imperial goals wakes in European hearts and minds.  They know as much as anyone else that once a nation starts invading its neighbors, it never stops with just 'one.'
 
2014-03-02 05:27:02 PM

Weatherkiss: namegoeshere: Weatherkiss: digistil: paulseta: Russia. Russia never changes.

What has changed is Republicans are now cheering FOR Russia and against the US, because 0bummer.

So either Russia is our close ally and Obama is a warmongering dictator who ignores congress and the constitution for wanting action against them.

Or Russia is run by a commie warlord and it's our duty as Americans to intervene and teach those neo-soviets a lesson, and Obama is an empty suit limp-wristed pussy for keeping America out of it.

It's like a choose your own adventure book, with more potato.

Bring into the conversation that Obama has recently announced plans to significantly downsize the us military, and things get even more potato.

Things will get potato, and we will be lucky to live through it.


On the bright side, potato may well be in their realm of understanding. Which would be a first for Neocons.

/WTB a Bill Buckley conservative
//i.e. intelligent
 
2014-03-02 05:27:30 PM
Russians will just never stop being savages, huh?
 
2014-03-02 05:30:23 PM

fusillade762: Mother Jones had a pretty good take on things.

Here's What Is Going To Happen With Ukraine


Sure, if you only care what American political parties are going to do (and how we can preemptively stop them from doing anything useful).

/as expected, it will all be blamed on the Republicans
//mostly because they still exist, in spite of the absolute perfection of the Democrats
 
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