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(Nola.com)   Despite their past and current problems, the New Orleans Police Department handles the massive Mardi Gras crowds with an amazing level of professionalism and pragmatism   (nola.com) divider line 45
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2014-03-02 11:01:48 AM  
Never been during Mardis Gras, but have been on normal Saturday nights and when 'biggish' events are in town like a ATL or Dallas v Saints and have been impressed by the NOPD.  They are all over place but are non intrusive and very friendly with directions or a quick chat etc.  I have seen them on horse back as well which seems to help with the bigger crowds.
 
2014-03-02 11:04:25 AM  
You'd expect that the one thing they'd be good at would be handling large crowds. It's nice to hear that they live up to this expectation.
 
2014-03-02 11:06:20 AM  
When we were naval flight students stationed at Pensacola in 1980, a friend and I drove to New Orleans to experience Mardi Gras. We were very naive. Couldn't find a hotel, of course, and ended up sleeping in the car. Paid outrageous prices for a couple hamburgers in a restaurant. On the way out we used the men's room. While we were standing at the urinals, a couple cops came in. They told us not to move, took our wallets out of our pockets, removed the money, and put our wallets back.
 
2014-03-02 11:08:07 AM  
Wouldn't be caught dead there.
 
2014-03-02 11:08:51 AM  

Oblio13: When we were naval flight students stationed at Pensacola in 1980, a friend and I drove to New Orleans to experience Mardi Gras. We were very naive. Couldn't find a hotel, of course, and ended up sleeping in the car. Paid outrageous prices for a couple hamburgers in a restaurant. On the way out we used the men's room. While we were standing at the urinals, a couple cops came in. They told us not to move, took our wallets out of our pockets, removed the money, and put our wallets back.


I'm gonna go ahead and guess they weren't real cops.
 
2014-03-02 11:19:08 AM  
Can control huge drunken crowds without bean bag guns. I wish every cop in the states was forced to do a detail at Mardi Gras to learn how not to be a pumped up jerkoff in crowds.
 
2014-03-02 11:21:38 AM  
My daughter has been down there since Thursday and she texted me 4 or 5 pictures where she is posing with police. It's been her theme this Mardi Gras. She's trying to convey that she is safe, but really she is showing how relaxed the police are this year.
 
2014-03-02 11:24:54 AM  
Quite a change from their whole "let's murder unarmed civilians and then cover it up" thing they had going on in 2005.
 
2014-03-02 11:28:00 AM  

eyemarten: Oblio13: When we were naval flight students stationed at Pensacola in 1980, a friend and I drove to New Orleans to experience Mardi Gras. We were very naive. Couldn't find a hotel, of course, and ended up sleeping in the car. Paid outrageous prices for a couple hamburgers in a restaurant. On the way out we used the men's room. While we were standing at the urinals, a couple cops came in. They told us not to move, took our wallets out of our pockets, removed the money, and put our wallets back.

I'm gonna go ahead and guess they weren't real cops.


New Orleans, 1980?

I'd give 100:1 odds your guess is wrong.
 
2014-03-02 11:28:22 AM  

eyemarten: Oblio13: When we were naval flight students stationed at Pensacola in 1980, a friend and I drove to New Orleans to experience Mardi Gras. We were very naive. Couldn't find a hotel, of course, and ended up sleeping in the car. Paid outrageous prices for a couple hamburgers in a restaurant. On the way out we used the men's room. While we were standing at the urinals, a couple cops came in. They told us not to move, took our wallets out of our pockets, removed the money, and put our wallets back.

I'm gonna go ahead and guess they weren't real cops.


Why, because New Orleans cops could never be that crooked? They wouldn't, for example, join looters after a hurricane? Or run drug protection rackets? Or shoot a kid and then falsify the report and lie on the witness stand? There couldn't be a New Orleans cop on death row right now for ordering a hit on a woman who filed a complaint about him? If robbing us that day was the worst thing those two did, they were way ahead of the average.
 
2014-03-02 11:36:37 AM  
That department is full of heroes.

www.upl.co
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I hope every last one of these folks in attendance (and in that dept in general) get a chance to visit their children in the terminal cancer ward.
 
2014-03-02 11:46:49 AM  

Oblio13: When we were naval flight students stationed at Pensacola in 1980, a friend and I drove to New Orleans to experience Mardi Gras. We were very naive. Couldn't find a hotel, of course, and ended up sleeping in the car. Paid outrageous prices for a couple hamburgers in a restaurant. On the way out we used the men's room. While we were standing at the urinals, a couple cops came in. They told us not to move, took our wallets out of our pockets, removed the money, and put our wallets back.


...and left town much less naive.
 
2014-03-02 12:00:23 PM  
Give it back to the Gators.
 
2014-03-02 12:04:54 PM  

OnlyM3: I hope every last one of these folks in attendance (and in that dept in general) get a chance to visit their children in the terminal cancer ward.


I don't know what those people in that crowd are doing, but that statement makes you a 1000 times worse person than any of them.

fark you. You suck as person.
 
2014-03-02 12:30:24 PM  
See, the NOPD is good people, things have changed.

I wonder how much first access the reporter was promised for that puff piece?

When will the PR stop and let the police get back to business as usual?
 
2014-03-02 12:34:45 PM  
It really is impressive watching the NOPD handle Mardis Gras, Super Bowls, etc. It's as though they all had a meeting and said, "We're gonna screw up everything else but if there's one thing we're going to excel at, it's efficient anjd mostly friendly crowd patrol." Sure, there are other cities with their own major events, but the NOPD gets far more annual practice at keeping cool when the city's population can literally double for the days leading up to and including Mardis Gras.

Just don't try hanging around the city during a storm like Katrina. I've never heard of or seen such systemic corruption, malice, and cowardice as I did from the NOPD that year. I'm not really one of those "f*ck da police" guys but Jesus Christ, it's like half of the department went batsh*t and stomped around the city like it was their personal shooting range. Maybe other PDs would have reacted similarly given such bizarre circumstances. Maybe they would not have. I dunno.

But yeah, we throw one hell of a party.
 
2014-03-02 12:41:37 PM  

Oblio13: When we were naval flight students stationed at Pensacola in 1980, a friend and I drove to New Orleans to experience Mardi Gras.


When I was a naval flight student at Meridian MS in 1967, a friend and I did the same.  Rode motorcycles to Lake Pontchartrain state park and set up camp.  Then rode into the city and locked our helmets in a bus station locker.  Had a great time!  Walked back to our bikes as the cleaning crews were clearing bottles and cans out of the gutters.  Then back to our sleeping bags.  Good times!  Everybody should give it a try, ideally when you're young.
 
2014-03-02 12:44:21 PM  

Oblio13: When we were naval flight students stationed at Pensacola in 1980, a friend and I drove to New Orleans to experience Mardi Gras.


Ah, the 1980 New Orleans Saints! A juggernaut rivaled only by the '85 Chicago Bears.

/that's a joke, son
//damn it's nice to finally be a perennial threat around the league
 
2014-03-02 12:47:28 PM  

Queensowntalia: OnlyM3: I hope every last one of these folks in attendance (and in that dept in general) get a chance to visit their children in the terminal cancer ward.

I don't know what those people in that crowd are doing, but that statement makes you a 1000 times worse person than any of them.

fark you. You suck as person.


Unless I'm mistaken, that is police officers cheering on their 'former' co-workers who were found guilty of murdering an innocent person on Danzinger Bridge in New Orleans during Hurricane Katrina and then filing false reports in an attempt to cover up the murder. Recently many of the convictions were overturned and many of the guilty may not even face punishment.

You already admit that you have no idea what's going on in the picture, but hey, just because you are ignorant and clueless of why OnlyM3 is pissed off, you are certainly free to say stupid shiat when you by your own admission do not have a farking clue what is going on.

Yes, anger and a little internet hyperbole is "1000 times worse " than dirty cops killing innocent people fleeing during one of the worst hurricanes and natural disasters in the history of United States and then trying to lie and cover up. I'd think twice before I commented on another persons stupidity... But by all means, please proceed.
 
2014-03-02 12:51:21 PM  
That being said, New Orleans police do an amazing job of not letting shiat getting completely out of hand with a million drunk, crazy often scantily clad people. Happy Mardi Gras. Enjoy Bacchus. Throw some beads at Baby Kong.
 
2014-03-02 12:52:20 PM  
My husband is from NO, and he told me the two things I needed to know about Mardi Gras: despite what the drunk tourists think, it's not all titty-flashing (frowned upon by the locals; only the fellow drunks are impressed), and try not to look like a tourist so you don't get your purse snatched.
 
2014-03-02 12:57:53 PM  
If you don't pee on the sidewalk or start throwing punches or pull a gun, they'll leave you alone

They don't have tittie-phobia and you can walk around with a drink and otherwise make merry. I've been many times and they have been very good at keeping things down to a dull roar in my experience
 
2014-03-02 12:59:14 PM  

Dahnkster: Queensowntalia: OnlyM3: I hope every last one of these folks in attendance (and in that dept in general) get a chance to visit their children in the terminal cancer ward.

I don't know what those people in that crowd are doing, but that statement makes you a 1000 times worse person than any of them.

fark you. You suck as person.

Unless I'm mistaken, that is police officers cheering on their 'former' co-workers who were found guilty of murdering an innocent person on Danzinger Bridge in New Orleans during Hurricane Katrina and then filing false reports in an attempt to cover up the murder. Recently many of the convictions were overturned and many of the guilty may not even face punishment.

You already admit that you have no idea what's going on in the picture, but hey, just because you are ignorant and clueless of why OnlyM3 is pissed off, you are certainly free to say stupid shiat when you by your own admission do not have a farking clue what is going on.

Yes, anger and a little internet hyperbole is "1000 times worse " than dirty cops killing innocent people fleeing during one of the worst hurricanes and natural disasters in the history of United States and then trying to lie and cover up. I'd think twice before I commented on another persons stupidity... But by all means, please proceed.


Wishing cancer on children and white knighting the conveyor of such?

*sigh*
 
2014-03-02 01:04:58 PM  

Dahnkster: Queensowntalia: OnlyM3: I hope every last one of these folks in attendance (and in that dept in general) get a chance to visit their children in the terminal cancer ward.

I don't know what those people in that crowd are doing, but that statement makes you a 1000 times worse person than any of them.

fark you. You suck as person.

Unless I'm mistaken, that is police officers cheering on their 'former' co-workers who were found guilty of murdering an innocent person on Danzinger Bridge in New Orleans during Hurricane Katrina and then filing false reports in an attempt to cover up the murder. Recently many of the convictions were overturned and many of the guilty may not even face punishment.

You already admit that you have no idea what's going on in the picture, but hey, just because you are ignorant and clueless of why OnlyM3 is pissed off, you are certainly free to say stupid shiat when you by your own admission do not have a farking clue what is going on.

Yes, anger and a little internet hyperbole is "1000 times worse " than dirty cops killing innocent people fleeing during one of the worst hurricanes and natural disasters in the history of United States and then trying to lie and cover up. I'd think twice before I commented on another persons stupidity... But by all means, please proceed.


So dirty cops doing horrible things to people means that innocent kids deserve to die young from cancer just because they were born to people who did bad things? 
I guess you prescribe to the notion that if one innocent person gets killed in a horrible way, then another innocent person must be killed in a horrible way to make up for it.  That's totally justice the way it needs to be done, right?
 
2014-03-02 01:27:01 PM  
If we see this issue as a question of money, the ability to train people not to power trip isn't that amazing.

Does Mardis Gras make money, for the city, yes.  The priority is to train police not to arrest or incite drunks not causing problems because that would hurt the flow of money.

In places that are not about tourist dollars, you can train police to adjust their behavior.  That may be one reason people hiring police like ex-military other then just knowing about bang sticks.
 
2014-03-02 01:28:18 PM  
You are a special kind of stupid. If you get the sand out of your vagina, I said that his comments were hyperbole. If you project anymore I could watch a movie. My point is, maybe you shouldn't be claiming any kind of superiority, if you have no idea WTF you are commenting about. Are you an alt, or a troll?
 
2014-03-02 01:32:51 PM  

Dahnkster: You are a special kind of stupid. If you get the sand out of your vagina, I said that his comments were hyperbole. If you project anymore I could watch a movie. My point is, maybe you shouldn't be claiming any kind of superiority, if you have no idea WTF you are commenting about. Are you an alt, or a troll?


I would argue that wishing cancer on innocent kids is probably not a good thing regardless of what it's in response to.
 
2014-03-02 01:44:38 PM  
Mardi Gras was never the problem. That's the tourists, mostly upper-middle class and white. They're the town's bread and butter. The police treat them very well.

It's the locals they don't do so well with: mostly poor and mostly black. They're the descendants of those who ran the town's previous industry, shipping, which has largely evaporated. It's got the same problems as every other post-industrial town (Detroit, Baltimore, etc.): there's a lot of crime, so the cops hate and fear the locals and the locals hate and fear the cops. There's not a lot of money in being a cop, and there ends up being a lot of corruption.

There's no simple solution to it (aside, perhaps, from simply letting the entire town vanish after Katrina). But they're sure as hell gonna treat people who come to spend $200 a night on a hotel room and $5 for a drink containing a lot of ice and some booze (a LOT of those) with kid gloves.

It's actually an impressive level of organization: they will have cleaned up all of the drunken revelries in Bourbon Street in time for people to go to church on Ash Wednesday. When you put your priorities there, you can do it.
 
2014-03-02 01:46:10 PM  
Damnhippyfreak:

I would argue that wishing cancer on innocent kids is probably not a good thing regardless of what it's in response to.

I would agree with that statement 100%. Cherry picking pictures of kids in a crowd full of assholes that came to show their support for murderers and liars is a reach. Then going full-on Helen Lovejoy with "Think of the children" is even sillier. Again, I already TWICE have said HIS comments were hyperbole.

So, that I am crystal clear, even for the most obtuse individual,  I am not defending his wishing children or anyone else cancer, no matter how much you may want to spin it. Personally, I don't find his comments anymore repugnant than "DIAF", but I fully understand why he is pissed off and full of rage, even if you do not.
 
2014-03-02 01:53:14 PM  

Dahnkster: Damnhippyfreak:

I would argue that wishing cancer on innocent kids is probably not a good thing regardless of what it's in response to.

I would agree with that statement 100%. Cherry picking pictures of kids in a crowd full of assholes that came to show their support for murderers and liars is a reach. Then going full-on Helen Lovejoy with "Think of the children" is even sillier. Again, I already TWICE have said HIS comments were hyperbole.

So, that I am crystal clear, even for the most obtuse individual,  I am not defending his wishing children or anyone else cancer, no matter how much you may want to spin it. Personally, I don't find his comments anymore repugnant than "DIAF", but I fully understand why he is pissed off and full of rage, even if you do not.



The bit in bold is a good idea. I suggest you should have also extended this to the person you were originally responding to, and to others since.
 
2014-03-02 01:57:30 PM  
I'm guessing that the cops are under special/implied instructions to be extra nice and extra careful for any big-crowd, big-spectacle event that is likely to attract any significant number of out-of-towners.  Don't want to discourage visitors and turn off vital tourism dollars. Particularly at events likely to get lots of photos spread to social media.  I bet that regular citizens on regular days get a whole different experience.
 
2014-03-02 02:00:42 PM  
So we're all having a circle jerk because the cops didn't shoot innocent civilians?  Go New Orleans.
 
2014-03-02 02:08:02 PM  

Oblio13: eyemarten: Oblio13: When we were naval flight students stationed at Pensacola in 1980, a friend and I drove to New Orleans to experience Mardi Gras. We were very naive. Couldn't find a hotel, of course, and ended up sleeping in the car. Paid outrageous prices for a couple hamburgers in a restaurant. On the way out we used the men's room. While we were standing at the urinals, a couple cops came in. They told us not to move, took our wallets out of our pockets, removed the money, and put our wallets back.

I'm gonna go ahead and guess they weren't real cops.

Why, because New Orleans cops could never be that crooked? They wouldn't, for example, join looters after a hurricane? Or run drug protection rackets? Or shoot a kid and then falsify the report and lie on the witness stand? There couldn't be a New Orleans cop on death row right now for ordering a hit on a woman who filed a complaint about him? If robbing us that day was the worst thing those two did, they were way ahead of the average.


First off, I'm not some sycophantic cop apologist. I don't like or trust them anymore than you do.

Secondly, they arrest people for impersonating cops frequently, typically robbing their victims.

The possibility that you were duped may irk you, but it doesn't mean that it is out of the realm of possibility.
 
2014-03-02 02:36:57 PM  
'"We're not here to use our authority unless we have to."

Someone just divided by zero.
 
2014-03-02 03:03:47 PM  
As one of FARK's resident police mistrusters, a few things stand out to me:

1)  Wow.  See what happens when police actually protect and serve instead of bully and provoke?  People actually like them. Huh.  Might be a lesson there.

2)  Isn't it interesting they are having fewer problems with crowd control after shedding two hundred officers?  Huh.  Might be a lesson there.

3)  Look at what happens when the city's leadership give clear instructions to police?  "Don't f*ck with our money.  Be nice instead."  Maybe if police didn't buck every attempt by civilian leadership as "stepping on our authority" law enforcement would have a better reputation.

But sadly, right now, you're just legally sanctioned thugs, right up there with the Taliban's school-girl killers.
 
2014-03-02 03:04:30 PM  
I lived in NOLA in the 90s and went to several parades every Mardi Gras.  The cops were always amazing considering what they had to put up with.  They really didn't want to cause anyone a bad time, and the only people we ever saw get hauled away by the cops were drunk, violent, and clearly needed to be taken off the streets.

One interesting thing is the enforcement of nudity.  Girls would get on guys' shoulders and show their boobs to get beads thrown to them.  This is illegal, of course, but on Friday, Saturday, or Sunday night parades the cops will generally look the other way unless you're doing it so much you create a hazard.  But on Monday and Tuesday, keep your shirt on, since those are supposed to be for family friendly parades.
 
2014-03-02 03:06:37 PM  

swingbozo: Can control huge drunken crowds without bean bag guns. I wish every cop in the states was forced to do a detail at Mardi Gras to learn how not to be a pumped up jerkoff in crowds.


I've rarely met a cop that couldn't manage to be a pumped up jerkoff alone in the back yard. I know a few that aren't... but so few that it could be a statistical anomaly.
 
2014-03-02 03:07:16 PM  
DanInKansas:

But sadly, right now, you're just legally sanctioned thugs, right up there with the Taliban's school-girl killers.

And since we're unclear on the concept: YES THAT WAS HYPERBOLE.

/Archer.
 
2014-03-02 05:11:26 PM  

dickfreckle: It really is impressive watching the NOPD handle Mardis Gras, Super Bowls, etc. It's as though they all had a meeting and said, "We're gonna screw up everything else but if there's one thing we're going to excel at, it's efficient anjd mostly friendly crowd patrol." Sure, there are other cities with their own major events, but the NOPD gets far more annual practice at keeping cool when the city's population can literally double for the days leading up to and including Mardis Gras.

Just don't try hanging around the city during a storm like Katrina. I've never heard of or seen such systemic corruption, malice, and cowardice as I did from the NOPD that year. I'm not really one of those "f*ck da police" guys but Jesus Christ, it's like half of the department went batsh*t and stomped around the city like it was their personal shooting range. Maybe other PDs would have reacted similarly given such bizarre circumstances. Maybe they would not have. I dunno.

But yeah, we throw one hell of a party.


You, I like you.
We have the best parties.
 
2014-03-02 05:29:46 PM  
DanInKansas
As one of FARK's resident police mistrusters, a few things stand out to me:
1) Wow. See what happens when police actually protect and serve instead of bully and provoke? People actually like them. Huh. Might be a lesson there.
2) Isn't it interesting they are having fewer problems with crowd control after shedding two hundred officers? Huh. Might be a lesson there.
3) Look at what happens when the city's leadership give clear instructions to police? "Don't f*ck with our money. Be nice instead." Maybe if police didn't buck every attempt by civilian leadership as "stepping on our authority" law enforcement would have a better reputation.
But sadly, right now, you're just legally sanctioned thugs, right up there with the Taliban's school-girl killers.


Great points, other then the hyperbole, you made this into a positive suggestion.

I have to ask, what if the power that be want the police on the ground to play the role of thugs.
Link
 
2014-03-02 05:32:56 PM  
They sure like to take the credit but It's not the cops that are good. It's the people that are good. Otherwise, the cops wouldn't stand a snowball's chance in hell.
 
2014-03-02 08:34:36 PM  

Enemabag Jones: I have to ask, what if the power that be want the police on the ground to play the role of thugs.


My liberal friends often can not comprehend my minarchist tendencies but you put your finger on one of the biggest reasons.  When the Klan had southern police departments inflitrated, there were no alternatives for the African American population.
 
2014-03-03 03:32:29 AM  
After this sucky winter I want to move to New Orleans for half of the year.
 
2014-03-03 11:31:08 AM  
Well, I am late to the party, but it's a fact that police departments from around the world consult with the cops in New Orleans on crowd control.

When Chief Pennington arrived from DC a few years ago, he was AMAZED how his new troops were able to police the Jazz Fest crowd of over 100,000 people jammed into the Fair Grounds.

Yeah, we got our crooked cops, but most of the cops here are good-natured.  Especially if you are in any way courteous and respectful to them.
 
2014-03-03 11:33:06 AM  
What, no Mardis Gras pics..?  I am disappoint...
 
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