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(AZ Family)   Family hears sounds coming from their backyard all night and when they investigate in the morning they discover the noise is from: A) a coyote B) a bear C) a 2-year-old Native American   (azfamily.com) divider line 87
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2014-03-01 07:29:23 PM  
great... now that they've touched it, the mother is not going to take it back.
 
2014-03-01 07:29:48 PM  
Sounds like the makings of an Indian folk tale.
 
2014-03-01 07:50:07 PM  
Probably drunk.
 
2014-03-01 08:40:33 PM  

bearded clamorer: Probably drunk.


FTA: "Police said the child's mother was at a party in the area Friday night and left after becoming upset with others. She reportedly told officers she did not remember what she did with her son. "

Sounds like you might be right.
 
2014-03-01 09:17:10 PM  
Good thing it wasn't in Texas, or the kid would have been shot by somebody "fearing for their life" and blindly shooting at noises.
 
2014-03-01 09:17:38 PM  
He was on a vision quest.
 
2014-03-01 09:21:02 PM  
I bet she's going to ask for it back.
 
2014-03-01 09:21:58 PM  
You moved the headstones, but you didn't move the bodies!
 
2014-03-01 09:28:24 PM  

piltdown: Good thing it wasn't in Texas, or the kid would have been shot by somebody "fearing for their life" and blindly shooting at noises. standing their ground

"

FTFY.
 
2014-03-01 09:30:21 PM  

change1211: bearded clamorer: Probably drunk.

FTA: "Police said the child's mother was at a party in the area Friday night and left after becoming upset with others. She reportedly told officers she did not remember what she did with her son. "

Sounds like you might be right.


I think you missed his punch line . . .
 
2014-03-01 09:31:41 PM  
Am I the only one here that's wondering how you hear shiat ALL NIGHT LONG in the yard but don't figure out it's a farking TWO YEAR OLD KID--apparently on his first spirit quest, far from the home of his ancestors--until morning?

What the hell is wrong with these people that they let this toddler wander in their yard all farking night, apparently in the rain? Am I the only person who, when I hear strange noises in my enclosed yard, actually goes out to investigate (yes, with a weapon in one hand and a cell phone in the other)? Jeeze!
 
2014-03-01 09:31:41 PM  
Child is lucky to be living in AZ and not MN.
 
2014-03-01 09:35:08 PM  
img.fark.net

Looks like someone threw away a perfectly good indian baby
 
2014-03-01 09:37:51 PM  
we shall name him: He Who Poos on Huggies
 
2014-03-01 09:40:45 PM  
This is why we have such a hard time dispelling Stereotypes about our people.

Meanwhile, get a grandma, or great-grandma to lecture the mom about what she did.  Even if she won't learn much from getting a police record, she'll remember how it felt to have an family elder read her the riot act.  At least that's how it works around here with the Plains Tribes.  Them Grandmas can make you feel really small, and that's without using a single cuss word, practically microscopic if they do cuss.
 
2014-03-01 09:42:35 PM  

bearded clamorer: Probably drunk.



Too much firewater.
 
2014-03-01 09:43:20 PM  
Well obviously...the wife wanted to order pizza, so they ordered pizza even though the husband wanted to go out for Indian.
 
2014-03-01 09:43:55 PM  
Deport it back to the country of origin.
 
2014-03-01 09:44:24 PM  

piltdown: Good thing it wasn't in Texas, or the kid would have been shot by somebody "fearing for their life" and blindly shooting at noises.


Why do that when you can listen to the noises all night long and even then wait till mid morning before calling the police
 
2014-03-01 09:45:03 PM  
firewater may have been involved
 
2014-03-01 09:45:43 PM  
upload.wikimedia.org
 
2014-03-01 09:46:35 PM  
FTA: The backyard was enclosed and it is unknown how the boy got inside. The yard has a swimming pool and no pool fence.

That made my brain hurt. I guess they mean in addition to the yard being "enclosed" - presumably with some kind of fence - the pool is supposed to have its own fence? I know pools are an "attractive nuisance" but most places I have lived said one fence was enough.
 
2014-03-01 09:46:39 PM  
He was there to reclaim what is rightfully his
 
2014-03-01 09:46:55 PM  

"The backyard was enclosed and it is unknown how the boy got inside."


For chrissakes, the kid is an Indian! They have innate ability to get in anywhere they want. They're Native American Ninjas.

 
2014-03-01 09:51:25 PM  
And they woke up to find this in their backyard:

www.threadbombing.com

*insert crying baby sounds*
 
2014-03-01 09:52:19 PM  
Sorry little Indian, they were there first.
 
2014-03-01 09:52:50 PM  

fusillade762: Sounds like the makings of an Indian folk tale.


Or a Disney movie.

All they need is a slightly racist talking bear; and you've got a classic!
 
2014-03-01 09:55:16 PM  

pueblonative: piltdown: Good thing it wasn't in Texas, or the kid would have been shot by somebody "fearing for their life" and blindly shooting at noises. standing their ground"

FTFY.


SInce this was at their home, this would be a case of "Castle Doctrine"

Out at the gro' sto', Stand Your Ground (20 ITEMS OR LESS GODAMMIT!)
 
2014-03-01 09:55:16 PM  
Police said paramedics determined the boy was in relatively good condition, despite having been out in the rain.

It rains in Phoenix? Also, who was out in it? The cops or the paramedics?
 
2014-03-01 09:58:14 PM  
Maybe it was all three.

Yee naldlooshi

I grew up hearing these stories and it still freaks me out to be alone at night out on the plateau.
 
2014-03-01 10:02:12 PM  

ecmoRandomNumbers: Maybe it was all three.

Yee naldlooshi

I grew up hearing these stories and it still freaks me out to be alone at night out on the plateau.


Holy crap!
 
2014-03-01 10:05:22 PM  
"There was no bruising on the child"

I'd be SOL, my kids get new bruises every day.  Hell, I get new bruises from my kids every day
 
2014-03-01 10:07:55 PM  

ecmoRandomNumbers: Maybe it was all three.

Yee naldlooshi

I grew up hearing these stories and it still freaks me out to be alone at night out on the plateau.


Tell us a bedtime story
 
2014-03-01 10:09:05 PM  

fusillade762: Sounds like the makings of an Indian folk tale.


If the family holds the sun, the water, and the stars, it might be be.

/Obscure?
 
2014-03-01 10:09:31 PM  

Optimal_Illusion: This is why we have such a hard time dispelling Stereotypes about our people.

Meanwhile, get a grandma, or great-grandma to lecture the mom about what she did.  Even if she won't learn much from getting a police record, she'll remember how it felt to have an family elder read her the riot act.  At least that's how it works around here with the Plains Tribes.  Them Grandmas can make you feel really small, and that's without using a single cuss word, practically microscopic if they do cuss.


Now I'm Italian, and we do it the same way.
My grandkids get the lecture, a kick in the butt, and then a hug with "I love you, anyway."

So glad the child did not fall into the pool. TFA said there was no pool fence.
 
2014-03-01 10:10:59 PM  

Optimal_Illusion: This is why we have such a hard time dispelling Stereotypes about our people.

Meanwhile, get a grandma, or great-grandma to lecture the mom about what she did.  Even if she won't learn much from getting a police record, she'll remember how it felt to have an family elder read her the riot act.  At least that's how it works around here with the Plains Tribes.  Them Grandmas can make you feel really small, and that's without using a single cuss word, practically microscopic if they do cuss.


I've heard stories about that but it seems to be a tribal custom for only some tribes.  Oddly enough it seems to be a strong tradition in tribes that have their act together and not a tradition in tribes that don't.
 
2014-03-01 10:17:16 PM  

ecmoRandomNumbers: Maybe it was all three.

Yee naldlooshi

I grew up hearing these stories and it still freaks me out to be alone at night out on the plateau.



ecx.images-amazon.com

 
2014-03-01 10:23:49 PM  

BluVeinThrobber: ecmoRandomNumbers: Maybe it was all three.

Yee naldlooshi

I grew up hearing these stories and it still freaks me out to be alone at night out on the plateau.

Tell us a bedtime story


When my dad was really young and just back from the Army, he rented a house here in town (small town in Northeast Arizona) that was close enough to go eat at his grandmother's house every day. It was a small old adobe house sitting by itself in a place called Tortilla Flat, which exposed it to the wind and all the elements. One night my dad couldn't sleep and he went to the window and was looking at the snow outside. There was enough moonlight from the full moon and snow on the ground to see pretty well. He saw somebody running along the long barbed-wire fence that ran along the back of the very large property that the house sat on. He was trying to get a better look to see who it was without any luck. He noticed that the person was running fast. REALLY fast -- Jesse Owens fast. Still couldn't see who it was. All of a sudden, the figure changes direction and starts running toward the house. My dad's heart starts pumping faster. As the figure gets closer to the house 100 yards, 75 yards, 50 -- my dad still can't see facial features, even though it was bright enough to see. All he sees is a dark human figure racing towards the house. My dad slams the shutters, blocks the door with something heavy, grabs one of his pistols, and sits on the bed, pointing the gun at the door. He heard steps going around the house, some heavy breathing, and then nothing. He stayed awake the rest of the night. After the sun came up, he went outside to look around. No footprints.
 
2014-03-01 10:26:40 PM  

twistedmetal: ecmoRandomNumbers: Maybe it was all three.

Yee naldlooshi

I grew up hearing these stories and it still freaks me out to be alone at night out on the plateau.


[ecx.images-amazon.com image 221x346]


OOH!
 
2014-03-01 10:29:04 PM  
He'll get reunited with his mother. She'll get counseling, which will work until she meets another guy or starts partying again. She'll have more kids, forget them somewhere, and the cycle of life will continue.

Meanwhile, people who would give their right arm for a kid will be told they can't raise this boy because it'll be culturally wrong. It's more important that he be raised by a party animal who ignores him--if he's lucky.
 
2014-03-01 10:31:20 PM  
At least if was a cute toddler worth saving and wasn't left outside for the coyotes to eat.

img.fark.net
 
2014-03-01 10:33:22 PM  
"Broken Rubber" spent the night searching for the origin of his name.
 
2014-03-01 10:33:40 PM  

ecmoRandomNumbers: twistedmetal: ecmoRandomNumbers: Maybe it was all three.

Yee naldlooshi

I grew up hearing these stories and it still freaks me out to be alone at night out on the plateau.


[ecx.images-amazon.com image 221x346]

OOH!


Some spooky stuff.  Here in Okla, the Seminoles referred to the shape shifters (I believe the Cherokees did as well) as stigini, and they are especially associated with owls and some believe bigfoot type creatures.  If you hear or see an owl outside your house three nights in a row, someone's about to die.  There were some girl scout murders many years ago and the authorities think a man by the name of Gene Leroy Hart was guilty.  Many people in the area thought he was stigini and it is also told about in the book Someone Cry for the Children.   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oklahoma_girl_scout_murders
 
2014-03-01 10:35:59 PM  

DON.MAC: Optimal_Illusion: This is why we have such a hard time dispelling Stereotypes about our people.

Meanwhile, get a grandma, or great-grandma to lecture the mom about what she did.  Even if she won't learn much from getting a police record, she'll remember how it felt to have an family elder read her the riot act.  At least that's how it works around here with the Plains Tribes.  Them Grandmas can make you feel really small, and that's without using a single cuss word, practically microscopic if they do cuss.

I've heard stories about that but it seems to be a tribal custom for only some tribes.  Oddly enough it seems to be a strong tradition in tribes that have their act together and not a tradition in tribes that don't.


It also just won't work on everyone.  Human's are a highly variable species.  Just belonging to a tribe which does X(shaming in this case) does not mean one won't grow into a farked up adult.

A lot of indians, as well as every other frigging race in existence, will do something stupid, get yelled at by family, and do it again the next weekend.

A lot of indians, very much the same as rednecks, will use ignorance, even faith, as an excuse that they're still better than other people and can do as they please.  Then they wonder why they're on their deathbed at 40 from excessive drinking.  But hey, at least they're a pure-blood.

In fact, dwelling on tradition, genetic lines, etc, is often the cause of such things. KKK, Black Panthers, Pure Sioux blood, "I was the best quarterback in years when I was in highschool"(20 years ago), etc.  Delusions of grandeur, sometimes on small "sane" scales, sometimes complete wackadoo crazy.

Much of these things bring about a false sense of entitlement, same as kids that are told they're special no matter what they fark-up.  No sense of personal responsibility or duty or consequences.

No culture, skin color, nationality, or religion is immune to this effect, this "spoiling".

But the moment you call out this woman for it, or that black guy for it, you're racist.  Nevermind that you're constantly saying the same things about whites who fall into the same patterns.  This woman is native american, ergo, you're a racist.
 
2014-03-01 10:43:16 PM  

twistedmetal: ecmoRandomNumbers: twistedmetal: ecmoRandomNumbers: Maybe it was all three.

Yee naldlooshi

I grew up hearing these stories and it still freaks me out to be alone at night out on the plateau.


[ecx.images-amazon.com image 221x346]

OOH!

Some spooky stuff.  Here in Okla, the Seminoles referred to the shape shifters (I believe the Cherokees did as well) as stigini, and they are especially associated with owls and some believe bigfoot type creatures.  If you hear or see an owl outside your house three nights in a row, someone's about to die.  There were some girl scout murders many years ago and the authorities think a man by the name of Gene Leroy Hart was guilty.  Many people in the area thought he was stigini and it is also told about in the book Someone Cry for the Children.   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oklahoma_girl_scout_murders



I remember the Girl Scout murders.  That was the year I quit going to Girl Scout camp.
 
2014-03-01 10:45:04 PM  

diaphoresis: Deport it back to the country of origin.


Wait a minute...........
 
2014-03-01 10:46:10 PM  

ecmoRandomNumbers: BluVeinThrobber: ecmoRandomNumbers: Maybe it was all three.

Yee naldlooshi

I grew up hearing these stories and it still freaks me out to be alone at night out on the plateau.

Tell us a bedtime story

When my dad was really young and just back from the Army, he rented a house here in town (small town in Northeast Arizona) that was close enough to go eat at his grandmother's house every day. It was a small old adobe house sitting by itself in a place called Tortilla Flat, which exposed it to the wind and all the elements. One night my dad couldn't sleep and he went to the window and was looking at the snow outside. There was enough moonlight from the full moon and snow on the ground to see pretty well. He saw somebody running along the long barbed-wire fence that ran along the back of the very large property that the house sat on. He was trying to get a better look to see who it was without any luck. He noticed that the person was running fast. REALLY fast -- Jesse Owens fast. Still couldn't see who it was. All of a sudden, the figure changes direction and starts running toward the house. My dad's heart starts pumping faster. As the figure gets closer to the house 100 yards, 75 yards, 50 -- my dad still can't see facial features, even though it was bright enough to see. All he sees is a dark human figure racing towards the house. My dad slams the shutters, blocks the door with something heavy, grabs one of his pistols, and sits on the bed, pointing the gun at the door. He heard steps going around the house, some heavy breathing, and then nothing. He stayed awake the rest of the night. After the sun came up, he went outside to look around. No footprints.


Oh, thank you very much for this - yeah, I don't need to sleep tonight.
 
2014-03-01 10:47:03 PM  

Bslim: we shall name him: He Who Poos on Huggies


Poocahantas?
 
2014-03-01 10:47:07 PM  

Aigoo: Am I the only one here that's wondering how you hear shiat ALL NIGHT LONG in the yard but don't figure out it's a farking TWO YEAR OLD KID--apparently on his first spirit quest, far from the home of his ancestors--until morning?

What the hell is wrong with these people that they let this toddler wander in their yard all farking night, apparently in the rain? Am I the only person who, when I hear strange noises in my enclosed yard, actually goes out to investigate (yes, with a weapon in one hand and a cell phone in the other)? Jeeze!


We get a lot of critters. If it sounds like something small (say toddler size) we don't bother....I can see not knowing it was arandom toddler til we let the dogs out in the morning....
 
2014-03-01 10:48:37 PM  

Aigoo: Am I the only one here that's wondering how you hear shiat ALL NIGHT LONG in the yard but don't figure out it's a farking TWO YEAR OLD KID--apparently on his first spirit quest, far from the home of his ancestors--until morning?

What the hell is wrong with these people that they let this toddler wander in their yard all farking night, apparently in the rain? Am I the only person who, when I hear strange noises in my enclosed yard, actually goes out to investigate (yes, with a weapon in one hand and a cell phone in the other)? Jeeze!


Some kids are just fine on their own devices and don't every cry or vocalize at all, can amuse themselves by playing with a stick or in the mud for hours on end.

Some things that will tend to hang around a back yard at night are either utterly harmless but annoying, like raccoons, that you really can't do anything about.

Some are worse, say, skunks, which you don't ever want to actually try to scare off, lest you get sprayed, or they spray into your open back door, much less get into the house(they are fairly bold because they get attacked so infrequently).  Messing with animals at night is almost asking Darwin to visit.

Both nocturnal creatures that, barring some weather/food pattern, that are likely to never return again, yet, are a natural and harmless enough occurrence to more or less ignore.

It's the return visitors that must be dealt with.  One that decides you throw away too much food, or that it's really cozy underneath your porch.

/Had a raccoon try to move in a month ago
 
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