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(Kens 5 San Antonio)   Criminal justice major at bus stop videos police running a speed trap and posts to Facebook: "This is where your tax dollars are going, hard police work." Yes, that's an arresting   (kens5.com) divider line 116
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2014-03-01 06:09:27 PM
Sounds like she certainly learned a bit about criminal "justice" that day.

i2.kym-cdn.com
 
2014-03-01 06:12:11 PM
So when will the authoritarian lovers finally admit this has nothing to do with safety and everything to do with proving they can fark when you whenever they want. I mean never, because they get their jollies on enabling such things.
 
2014-03-01 06:13:29 PM
As a criminal justice major, she should have seen that coming.
/OBEY
/CONSUME
 
2014-03-01 06:14:00 PM
The time to mess with cops is not in the field. It is with Internal Affairs and lawsuits.
 
2014-03-01 06:14:43 PM

StanTheMan: The time to mess with cops is not in the field. It is with Internal Affairs and lawsuits.


You have to go through point A before you can get to point B.
 
2014-03-01 06:17:07 PM
Serves her right for interfering with police work. LET THEM DO THERE JOB! :-/
 
2014-03-01 06:17:09 PM
SAPD Sgt. Javier Salazar said the department views the video with a different perspective.

"I think there was somebody there that certainly seemed to be failing to obey the police officer's orders," he said in response to KENS 5's report.



I hope she ends up costing that department a lot of money.
 
2014-03-01 06:20:58 PM
Um... not a criminal justice major, but being she was simply given two citations, and being she is from Texas in particular, would not Brown v. Texas say she cannot be arrested for failure to produce identification without reasonable cause to her committing a criminal act?
 
2014-03-01 06:21:15 PM

Mark Ratner: Serves her right for interfering with police work. LET THEM DO THERE JOB! :-/


Okay Trollsy, explain to how exactly how she was interfering with his duties.
 
2014-03-01 06:22:19 PM

mongbiohazard: hope she ends up costing that department a lot of money.


The city/county has an insurance policy to cover such minor lapses of judgement.  Now if such action hit the PD in the wallet we might see less of this occupying paramilitary viewpoint.
 
2014-03-01 06:22:42 PM
black people's problems.
 
2014-03-01 06:24:19 PM
There is a time and place to protest police injustice. While they are arresting you or giving you tickets is not one of them.
 
2014-03-01 06:25:20 PM
Dead cop/judge/politician = Great America!

/I laugh when it happens, or your money back!
 
2014-03-01 06:25:29 PM
She was trolling them while they were making money for the state, and obviously they reacted just like she wanted them to. She was probably hoping they would beat her ass so she could cash in. In America, the police can film you, and thats legal, but if you film them, its wiretapping.

/Welcome to America, the home of the eroding freedoms.
 
2014-03-01 06:26:01 PM
Our tax dollars are going to Facebook?
 
2014-03-01 06:26:51 PM

Bit'O'Gristle: She was trolling them while they were making money for the state, and obviously they reacted just like she wanted them to. She was probably hoping they would beat her ass so she could cash in. In America, the police can film you, and thats legal, but if you film them, its wiretapping.

/Welcome to America, the home of the eroding freedoms.


Someone tell that to the DoJ.

http://images.politico.com/global/2013/03/08/garcia_doj_soi_03-04-13 .h tml
 
2014-03-01 06:27:01 PM

Weatherkiss: Our tax dollars are going to Facebook?


Short answer. Yes.

But not because of this.
 
2014-03-01 06:27:55 PM

Agent Smiths Laugh: Mark Ratner: Serves her right for interfering with police work. LET THEM DO THERE JOB! :-/

Okay Trollsy, explain to how exactly how she was interfering with his duties.


I'm pretty sure he was joking, based on the emoticon and the poor spelling.  Turn your detector back on.
 
2014-03-01 06:29:27 PM

Agent Smiths Laugh: Mark Ratner: Serves her right for interfering with police work. LET THEM DO THERE JOB! :-/

Okay Trollsy, explain to how exactly how she was interfering with his duties.


The fact that she was filming him made him self-conscious.
Is this my best side?  How's my hair? I hope I don't do anything goofy. Alright, just act tough. Forget about her, it's no big deal. fark, I can't concentrate on watching for speeders, I bet I have something in my teeth and it'll all be on video.

Hey you!
 
2014-03-01 06:29:50 PM
The way I read that, it seems like she was trolling the cops to harrass her for the static she was giving them with violating the speed limit. Cops did what cops do when their authority is questioned, they extend the full force of the "law" whereby nearly any innocuous action is justification for a police encounter. Rest assured, when this intentional encounter occurs, they will be the one to amp up the tension to a dramatic level, usually by a show of force through arms. Especially when there's a large group of people nearby. While this officer is intentionally instigating an encounter they can justify their escalation of the level of violence based on the size (and likely, ethnicity) of the crowd nearby and then use the presence of the weapon to intimidate the person with whom they are instigating this encounter. This is to say, police officers will intentionally threaten a large group of people with weapons to justify their presence to someone by whom they are disrespected. This is criminal behavior that is covered by a corrupt union and a system intentionally designed to cover up this corruption and make actual consequences for the officers in-question disappear.
 
2014-03-01 06:29:56 PM

bentleypm: Agent Smiths Laugh: Mark Ratner: Serves her right for interfering with police work. LET THEM DO THERE JOB! :-/

Okay Trollsy, explain to how exactly how she was interfering with his duties.

I'm pretty sure he was joking, based on the emoticon and the poor spelling.  Turn your detector back on.


You may have a point.

/flips switch
 
2014-03-01 06:30:30 PM

Vangor: Um... not a criminal justice major, but being she was simply given two citations, and being she is from Texas in particular, would not Brown v. Texas say she cannot be arrested for failure to produce identification without reasonable cause to her committing a criminal act?


/Generally, they have to have probable cause to believe that you have committed a crime. Either by a witness telling them, or them seeing you do it.  So, if they have NO probable cause to stop you and question you, you are well within your rights to refuse to give them any ID, or...engage in conversation. If you keep talking, the conversation is voluntary, and you are giving up your rights to not incriminate yourself. Best thing to say is, "what crime do you suspect me of committing, and what is your probable cause to stop me?" and..."am i free to go".  Not saying some jackass could not just make some shiat up because you are not bending over for him, but generally, if they have no reason to stop you, you giving your ID and statements are in fact, giving up your rights.
 
2014-03-01 06:33:24 PM
Thought this was relevant as well: Video of the initial altercation to remove the bike.

Not siding with police, as indicated in my above comment, but she was asked to remove the bike in previous days, now asked again, and gives a stupid excuse of not wanting to get her tires dirty (except one of them is in the dirt where she is standing) before being threatened with a citation and continuing to refuse, then being threatened with having her bike impounded and continuing to refuse.
 
2014-03-01 06:33:26 PM

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2014-03-01 06:34:33 PM
"You can't just arrest me for sitting at a bus stop," Ikhinmwin tells a San Antonio police officer in the video.

"I don't want to hurt you," the officer responds
 
2014-03-01 06:36:06 PM

Vangor: Um... not a criminal justice major, but being she was simply given two citations, and being she is from Texas in particular, would not Brown v. Texas say she cannot be arrested for failure to produce identification without reasonable cause to her committing a criminal act?


That would be my first reaction. He had cited her for the infraction (the bike blocking the sidewalk), so I suppose it MIGHT fall into the Hiibel restriction. (If there is PC, you do in fact have to show ID). But Brown v. Texas does state the cops can't just walk up on you and demand ID for no reason.

Now with that said, she needs to stop the whining about how she never felt so dehumanized in all her life. Boo hoo, honey. Get a thicker hide if you're going to be in criminal justice. It's plenty dehumanizing.

My advice to those who wish to poke the bear, though, is to expect this kind of thing. Yes, it's wrong, but if you poke a bear in an effort to make it bite, then it's going to bite you. You will likely win the fight in court, but you'll have to accept being bitten to get there.
 
2014-03-01 06:36:13 PM
Oh jeez.  Two Ukraine threads, a knife thread turned into a gun thread, Caturday, and now the mandatory anti-cop thread.  All that we are missing is a bicycle thread, beer snob thread, and another NY pizza vs Chicago style thread.  Maybe a hot sauce thread too.
 
2014-03-01 06:39:59 PM
We used to have this thing called a constitution and in it was this other thing called the bill of rights. I understand it was pretty popular back in the day and would protect people from crap like this. I miss it.
 
2014-03-01 06:40:07 PM
Well, at least she'll win the lawsuit.
 
2014-03-01 06:41:19 PM

Target Builder: "You can't just arrest me for sitting at a bus stop," Ikhinmwin tells a San Antonio police officer in the video.

"I don't want to hurt you," the officer responds


Reminds me of "I'm not a racist, but..."
 
2014-03-01 06:45:04 PM
Does anyone know the score of the game?
 
2014-03-01 06:46:00 PM
StanTheMan
The time to mess with cops is not in the field. It is with Internal Affairs and lawsuits.

Counterpoint
 
2014-03-01 06:46:28 PM

Vangor: Thought this was relevant as well: Video of the initial altercation to remove the bike.

Not siding with police, as indicated in my above comment, but she was asked to remove the bike in previous days, now asked again, and gives a stupid excuse of not wanting to get her tires dirty (except one of them is in the dirt where she is standing) before being threatened with a citation and continuing to refuse, then being threatened with having her bike impounded and continuing to refuse.


Hmm, well, the cop wasn't being too much of an ass at first and the recorder was. My real problem with the thing is when he says, "I'm ASKING you." Of course he's not just asking. It's not a request. Cops at least need to be honest about what they're doing.
 
2014-03-01 06:46:34 PM

MylesHeartVodak: Oh jeez. Two Ukraine threads, a knife thread turned into a gun thread, Caturday, and now the mandatory anti-cop thread. All that we are missing is a bicycle thread, beer snob thread, and another NY pizza vs Chicago style thread. Maybe a hot sauce thread too.


Yeah, there has not been anything about Mama or trains or trucks or prison or  getting drunk either.
Not a perfect news day.
 
2014-03-01 06:47:44 PM

MylesHeartVodak: All that we are missing is a bicycle thread, beer snob thread, and another NY pizza vs Chicago style thread.  Maybe a hot sauce thread too.


And of course a "ketchup on hot dogs" thread.
 
2014-03-01 06:48:11 PM
She has to pay to get her possessions back?
 
2014-03-01 06:48:34 PM
They need cop cops who's only job is it watch and investigate/arrest other cops..  Maybe Purple lights and bigger guns.
 
2014-03-01 06:49:16 PM
but not before suffering bruises that would keep her out of school for a week.

Really? Out of school for a week because of bruises? It's a good thing she didn't get cut, or she would be on permanent disability.
 
2014-03-01 06:50:04 PM
The police are our friends!  They are here to protect and serve!

9/11 never forget!
Heroes!!!!
 
2014-03-01 06:50:44 PM

Rivetman1.0: MylesHeartVodak: Oh jeez. Two Ukraine threads, a knife thread turned into a gun thread, Caturday, and now the mandatory anti-cop thread. All that we are missing is a bicycle thread, beer snob thread, and another NY pizza vs Chicago style thread. Maybe a hot sauce thread too.

Yeah, there has not been anything about Mama or trains or trucks or prison or  getting drunk either.
Not a perfect news day.


Best song EVER!!!!!!11
 
2014-03-01 06:54:52 PM

MylesHeartVodak: Oh jeez.  Two Ukraine threads, a knife thread turned into a gun thread, Caturday, and now the mandatory anti-cop thread.  All that we are missing is a bicycle thread, beer snob thread, and another NY pizza vs Chicago style thread.  Maybe a hot sauce thread too.


There was a paleo thread with some fat hating last night, too.
 
2014-03-01 06:57:18 PM
25-year-old Abie Kyle Ikhinmwin

Well there's the problem right there.
 
2014-03-01 06:59:50 PM

cgremlin: MylesHeartVodak: All that we are missing is a bicycle thread, beer snob thread, and another NY pizza vs Chicago style thread.  Maybe a hot sauce thread too.

And of course a "ketchup on hot dogs" thread.


We'd also need an "Evolution vs Intelligent Design" thread, a "put the toilet paper over vs put the toilet paper under" thread, and a "PC Master Race vs Console Peasants" thread before we can call it a day.
 
2014-03-01 07:00:02 PM

RanDomino: StanTheMan
The time to mess with cops is not in the field. It is with Internal Affairs and lawsuits.

Counterpoint


That made me smile
 
2014-03-01 07:03:27 PM

Agent Smiths Laugh: Mark Ratner: Serves her right for interfering with police work. LET THEM DO THERE JOB! :-/

Okay Trollsy, explain to how exactly how she was interfering with his duties.


Maybe she's so hot that her mere presence caused male police officers to get a stiffy, which interfered with their ability to run down and club black people.
 
2014-03-01 07:06:02 PM
Abie Kyle Ikhinmwin?

How much is that worth in scrabble?

/trick question
//not really
 
2014-03-01 07:06:46 PM

doloresonthedottedline: MylesHeartVodak: Oh jeez.  Two Ukraine threads, a knife thread turned into a gun thread, Caturday, and now the mandatory anti-cop thread.  All that we are missing is a bicycle thread, beer snob thread, and another NY pizza vs Chicago style thread.  Maybe a hot sauce thread too.

There was a paleo thread with some fat hating last night, too.


No Fark flame thread collection would be complete without a tipping/disgruntled wait staff thread.
 
2014-03-01 07:07:11 PM

Vangor: Um... not a criminal justice major, but being she was simply given two citations, and being she is from Texas in particular, would not Brown v. Texas say she cannot be arrested for failure to produce identification without reasonable cause to her committing a criminal act?


A cop can't just go up and ask for ID.  But if he's writing you a ticket for something, even a minor thing like jay walking, he can THEN ask you for an ID to confirm your identity.
 
2014-03-01 07:07:40 PM
"Ikhinmwin was issued two citations at the scene: failure to obey a police officer and impeding traffic."

Failure to obey a police officer? Why is even a thing? WTF America?
 
2014-03-01 07:08:22 PM

Sanguine Dawn: The way I read that, it seems like she was trolling the cops to harrass her for the static she was giving them with violating the speed limit. Cops did what cops do when their authority is questioned, they extend the full force of the "law" whereby nearly any innocuous action is justification for a police encounter. Rest assured, when this intentional encounter occurs, they will be the one to amp up the tension to a dramatic level, usually by a show of force through arms. Especially when there's a large group of people nearby. While this officer is intentionally instigating an encounter they can justify their escalation of the level of violence based on the size (and likely, ethnicity) of the crowd nearby and then use the presence of the weapon to intimidate the person with whom they are instigating this encounter. This is to say, police officers will intentionally threaten a large group of people with weapons to justify their presence to someone by whom they are disrespected. This is criminal behavior that is covered by a corrupt union and a system intentionally designed to cover up this corruption and make actual consequences for the officers in-question disappear.


not so much the union as the dept's liability insurance. you can get rid of bad cops. unions aren't covering this stuff with bogus Internal Affairs "investigations".
 
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